Posted by Lisa on July 02, 1998 at 19:40:43:
In response to more, written by Laura W on June 30, 1998 at 13:44:02
] ] I don't know why I assumed it was understood that I was speaking of Catholic marriages. My grandmother is a Catholic and so was my grandfather. So sorry!
] I understood that, but I am a genealogist and have learned not to assume anything! Not knowing about the civil/religious ceremony distinctions in Argentina, I did not want to assume that a non-nuptial-mass marriage ceremony, even between two Catholics (which BTW you had not previously specified), was a Catholic marriage ceremony performed by a priest. Or to assume that the marriage of your grandparents, which was admittedly unusual in that it was performed at home during a mourning period, was the norm rather than the exception.
] So, to recap our discussion:
] We can probably safely conclude that the 8-12am restriction on marriage ceremonies, both in the Catholic Church and in the Anglican rite, is a leftover rule from the time (pre-Reformation) when (a) everyone was Catholic, and (b) most (if not all) marriage ceremonies included a nuptial mass, which (before Vatican II) required fasting from midnight the night before.
] Obviously, these rules have changed worldwide in the last two centuries, both for Catholics and Protestants. Does anyone know (a) if the 8-12 am rule still applies in the Anglican church, or (b) when the nuptial mass became disassociated (assuming it has!) with the marriage ceremony in the Anglican church? I would guess that it happened after the Reformation, probably during the Cromwellian Interregnum-- but what I don't understand is why fanatical protestants would remove all evidence of popery from the ceremony and yet retain the 8-12am rule which apparently was dictated by the necessity of celebrating a mass?? The remaining, buring question is: Is there some reason, other than the nuptial mass, for an 8-12am restriction on weddings?
Regarding the last "burning question", are you referring to prior to Vatican II or after or both?
- The modern Church of Englandand non-conformist ceremonies, Caroline 22:34:40 7/03/98 (3)
- Prior to Vatican II Constanza 09:01:06 7/03/98 (0)
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