Posted by Constanza on May 06, 1998 at 14:32:31:
In response to Kissing, written by P. Bingham on May 05, 1998 at 02:30:10
] Can someone decipher what I assume is Latin? I get the gest of it but cannot say that I regret not knowing Latin!
I don't know Latin, just a few scattered words and phrases, and that all nouns have cases, but it being the "foreparent" language of Spanish, I can sometimes manages to understand it. However these paragraphs baffled me. Could you tell me what it is you think they mean? I worked out part of them (checking my guess against an old Missal of my mother's). I am posting my not-too-reliable translation.
"Accipiat Sponsus pacem (the Pax) a Sacerdote, et ferat Sponsae, osculans eam, et neminem alium, nec ipse nec ipsa."
The bridegroom receives the peace from the priest, and **, kisses her, ***, y **, neither him nor her
] 1553, Rubrick, fol. 69. "Surgant ambo, Sponsus et sponsa, et accipiat sponsus pacem a Sacerdote, et ferat Sponsae, oculans eam, et neminem alium, nec ipse nec ipsa."
** both, bridegroom and bride, etc
This I know for sure:
accipiat is a conjugated form for "to take" or "to receive"
Sponsus means husband, as either recipient of the action or direct object. I think it may also mean "bridegroom" because in Italian "sposo" means that, while the word for husband is "marito".
oculams is a conjugated form for "to kiss"
eam means "her" or "she" or
ipsa means "she" or "her" or "the same" or "the one before mentioned"
(femenine) ipse is the masculine form
Now, "alium" sounds like "alianza" which is the Spanish word for the wedding ring. "Ambo" is similar to "ambos", which means "both".
If the Missal was from 1553, it was before the Reform, wasn't it? In the Roman Catholic ceremony, you "give the kiss of peace" to your neighbour (though in Anglo-saxon countries you shake hands). So "giving the peace" would actually mean kissing.
I hope this help you. Now, if you have any idea about the rest, please do tell me. :-)
- PS: wedding presents and "Whip-her-Jenny" Constanza 14:36:22 5/06/98 (0)
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