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Posted by Candace on November 14, 1996 at 22:04:25:
] ] Or is there a way to split the board into 2 or more pages, so there would be a P&PBB(a) and a P&PBB(b) (or more). Each one could be kept relatively small so that the load time would be kept down, but the overall length could be maintained.
] ] Ann
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] I like this idea, that way the threads can be maintained intact until they die a natural death and then can go to the Great Message Bin in the Sky.
] Just my uninformed two cents worth!
] Cheryl
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I hate to bring this subject up again -- but -- when I told my husband about how many of us there are now and how fast the threads come and go he suggested that we split up into two groups: Those who like Mr. Darcy on the right and those who like Mr. Darcy on the left.
- Candace
Posted by Candace on November 14, 1996 at 22:08:07:
] He is such a cutie, but too young for me. I have got too old to feel the same way about a youngster like this as I can about a Firth or Sand -- or recently even Grant. The more crow's feet he gets the more my speed he seems.
] ] Amy
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] I'm with Amy here. Yes, he is very cute, but I'm of an age where I'm starting to get a little uncomfortable lusting after guys who are young enough to be my son! However, I do not have the same compunction about men who are old enough to be my father (Connery, Newman, etc.). Must be some kind of latent Electra thing or something. ;-)
] Cheryl
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So, you have no thoughts of playing Mrs. Robinson?
- Candace
Posted by Joan, too on November 14, 1996 at 22:09:46:
] Inko:
] And I think Bingley might have had some idea of how Darcy felt about Lizzie; Bingley was at Pemberley and why would Darcy have introduced his sister, invited them to dinner, etc. if D. hadn't been interested in her.
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Ah yes, and now you mention it, it puts me in mind that Jane came very close to actually reproaching Lizzie over how much she did not tell her about the Pemberley/Lambton visit, saying "I owe all that I know of it to another, not to you." And of course the "other" would have been Bingley.
Joan, too
Posted by Kelly on November 14, 1996 at 22:10:40:
] ] ] I heard on NPR today that Fergie has signed on to endorse Weight Watchers. She is way in debt, reportedly.
Yes, she has signed a US$1 million contract with
Weight Watchers...this after a deal with Revlon
fell through.
Posted by Donna on November 14, 1996 at 22:15:23:
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] Yes, and that whole exchange required rapid thinking on Lizzie's part, since she almost gave away what she had been trying to protect Jane from knowing - that Darcy had ruined things with Bingley. So she pops out with "He will make very sure that his friend does not renew his addresses to you." Luckily, Jane does not have a suspicious bone in her body and does not pick up on that.
] Joan, too
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"He will make sure that his friend does not renew his addresses to you." The whole point I thought is that Lizzie felt bad for Jane loss.
Donna
Posted by Kelly on November 14, 1996 at 22:15:38:
] I remember vividly not seeing Brideshead, and I've never caught up with it. At the time my first son was born 6 weeks premature, and I was racing into the hospital all the time (with expressed milk) to see him.
] Hilary
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I've been there Hilary! My daughter attempted to arrive
7 1/2 weeks early and suceeded at 5 weeks early...life
outside the hospital is non-existant. Hope the little one
is well :-)
Posted by Ann on November 14, 1996 at 22:16:20:
I hope this helps:
English translation as sung by Lizzy in the beloved Pemberley scene:
You who have tasted love's mystic spell
What is this sorrow naught can dispel? (repeat 2x)
Fair dame or maiden, none else may know
My heart o'erladen, why is this so?
What is this yearning, these trembling fears
Rapturous burning, melting in tears?
While thus I languish, wild beats my heart,
Yet from my anguish I would not part,
I seek a treasure Fate still denies,
Naught else will pleasure,
Naught else I prize...I'm ever sighing,
I know not why, near unto dying, when none are by,
My hear is riven night, morn and eve,
But ah 'tis heaven, thus, thus to grieve!
You who have tasted love's mystic spell
What is this sorrow naught can dispel? (repeat 2x)
Ann
Posted by Kelly on November 14, 1996 at 22:18:06:
] I'm a biologist, and I have a very strong opinion that all the trouble you went to with the milk was very good for your little boy.
] ] Jane A.
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] He is now a fit but slight 14 year old,...
Oops! I see now that he's not such a "little guy"
anymore! Glad things went so well.
Posted by Kelly on November 14, 1996 at 22:23:03:
] ] ] Am I crazy, or is Lizzy's outfit in this illustration reminiscent of the dress/jacket Jennifer Ehle wears on the trudge to Nfield to see the sick Jane and during the confrontation with Lady C? The ugly hat is excepted, of course.
The hat reminded me immediately of the one lying on the
table in the Inn - the scene where Lizzy receives the letters from Jane re Lydia's elopment. The hat minus the
flower if I remember correctly.
Posted by Candace on November 14, 1996 at 22:28:16:
] G'day,
] Having recently seen the film version of "Emma" how do you think the "The Maggot" dance in it compares with the one in P&P2? The "E" version was slightly faster and no dialogue was spoken by Emma or Mr Knightly, or none that I observed at any rate. Of course we all know how the P&P2 version proceeded. I think in many ways it was a much better version of the dance.
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Oh, I loved them both for different reasons. In P&P2 the dance seemed to be played out like a chess game. each making a move, then as they come face to face making a comment which seems to say "check" until the last "I would by no means suspend any pleasure of yours" - Checkmate. In Emma, the dance seemed more graceful and free spirited. By the way, does anyone know where one might go to learn these dances? What fun that would be.
- Candace
Posted by Donna on November 14, 1996 at 22:31:59:
] ] I have had trouble understanding the dialogue between Lizzy & Darcy when they dance at Netherfield; she says, "We must have some conversation, Mr. Darcy..." he is silent for a while then says "You talk by rule, then, when you are dancing?" The Lizzy answers "Yes, sometimes it is ______." What is she saying after"it is"?
The reason why she wants to talk is because in line dancing it can take as long as 15-30 min. to finish the dance. To make it seem not as long I guess Lizzie thought it would be easier to talk to him and judge his character.
Donna
Posted by Donna on November 14, 1996 at 22:34:45:
] ] ] Or is there a way to split the board into 2 or more pages, so there would be a P&PBB(a) and a P&PBB(b) (or more). Each one could be kept relatively small so that the load time would be kept down, but the overall length could be maintained.
] ] ] Ann
] ]
] ] _______
] ]
] ] I like this idea, that way the threads can be maintained intact until they die a natural death and then can go to the Great Message Bin in the Sky.
] ] Just my uninformed two cents worth!
] ] Cheryl
]
] _______
]
] I hate to bring this subject up again -- but -- when I told my husband about how many of us there are now and how fast the threads come and go he suggested that we split up into two groups: Those who like Mr. Darcy on the right and those who like Mr. Darcy on the left.
] - Candace
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What do you mean Candance right and left.
Donna
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Posted by Paula on November 14, 1996 at 22:44:07:
In P&P2 the dance seemed to be played out like a chess game, each making a move, then as they come face to face making a comment.
] - Candace
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Nice analogy. Someone (I forgot who) likened this dance to a bullfight, with Lizzy & Darcy twirling around each other like matadors. It's my favorite scene. I love the way Lizzy meets Darcy's gaze.
Posted by Candace on November 14, 1996 at 22:47:02:
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] ] After I taped Part 2 this morning I realized the VCR was set to EP for more condensed recording (and lesser quality) instead of SP for better quality (never mind the greater length). duplicated version - ne'er to be returned, I'm afraid. (Sorry, Barbara, you can't have it back.) I have an 8 year old son who is also Darcy savvy. Wise decision to expose them early on.
] ] : Janet
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] Dear Janet,
] Apparently others had difficulties of all sorts, too. I may have gotten the recording OK on SP, but even while watching the show I noticed A&E was using a poor copy of their own production (tiny horizontal lines evident in the film grain)! You'd think they'd use a newer copy themselves at air time.
] P.S. My daughter's favorite line is currently Mr. Bennet's when he tells Mary to let the other young ladies "exhibiTTT" their piano skills and that she'd "delighted [us] long enough."
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Wow -- I noticed this too. I thought that maybe it was bad cable reception.
- Candace
Posted by Joan, too on November 14, 1996 at 22:47:53:
] "He will make sure that his friend does not renew his addresses to you." The whole point I thought is that Lizzie felt bad for Jane loss.
] Donna
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In this conversation, Lizzie's main focus is that, because of Lydia's disgrace, no reputable man will want anything to do with any of the Bennet sisters. Jane came in to ask her what she had meant by the remark that she had made earlier, that more things than Lydia's reputation had been ruined.
And in this line of thought, she lets it slip out both that Mr. Darcy knows about their "troubles" and that he will make certain that his friend does not renew his addresses to Jane (which should rightfully be none of Darcy's business anyway). Of course she feels bad for Jane's loss, but she is beginning to feel bad for her own loss - now that she finally realizes that she cares for Darcy, Lydia has made it impossible that Darcy will ever ask a second time.
Joan, too
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Posted by Candace on November 14, 1996 at 22:50:48:
] ] : Bruce What? Van Who?
] ] Grace
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] Now I really don't know if you're pulling my leg! In case you're not:
] Bruce Hornesby is an American keyboards player. I'd guess West coast. We have 2 CDs: 'Harbour Lights' and 'Hot House Blues'.
] Van Morrison is Irish, from Dublin. Started back in the 60s; lead singer of Them, who did 'Gloria'. Then went on to a solo career, which is still going. His songs vary from rock through blues, to a kind of talking blues, and there is often a meditave or spiritual element to them. Lots of albums: 'Astral weeks' from the late 60s made his name, though not really on the charts. His homepage is:
] http://www.harbour.sfu.ca/~hayward/van/van.html
] Hilary
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Didn't Mr. Bingley sing about Jane "She's as sweet as Tupelo Honey, She's an Angel of the first degree..."?
- Candace
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Posted by Meghan on November 14, 1996 at 22:51:41:
] ] I assume, then, that you have visited the JN page? (I will attempt to supply the link below, although it is easy to find using a search on Jeremy Northam.)
] ] kathleen
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] Thanks, Kathleen. I heard on the Firthlist that there was a Northam board set up like this one. Here is the link direct to the BB --
] I just have to say that the roles of Knightley and Darcy really can't be compared. Knightley is charming and funny and Northam does a great job. Personally, I think that Darcy is a much harder role to play, because he doesn't say much. Most of the acting is done through his looking at Elizabeth. Therefore Colin Firth is definitely my favorite._______
Posted by Anna on November 14, 1996 at 22:52:14:
I think we're going to have to agree to disagree on that one...
Anna
Posted by Joan, too on November 14, 1996 at 22:53:57:
] By the way, does anyone know where one might go to learn these dances? What fun that would be.
] - Candace
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While I know none of the specifics, I do know that there are very active groups who gather to learn and do country dances such as these literally all over the world. I used to exchange e-mail with a woman who was into this, but have lost track of her, or I could ask. But you could probably turn up something in a net search.
Joan, too
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