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Posted by Donna on November 13, 1996 at 18:25:16:
] ] ] I think she is going to be on David Letterman.
] ] ] Tonight
] ] ] Donna
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] ] Donna, are you sure ? I just checked Late Show guests lineup, I don't see Fergie's name on tonight's (11/13) show.
] ] Zimei
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] Donna, Zimei, et al: Fergie is going to be on ABC's "Prime Time Live" tonight talking to Diane Sawyer at 10 p.m.EST. I too heard she's going to be on Letterman, but I think that's not today - maybe later -or maybe he was kidding.
] Inko
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Your are right Dave was interviewing Diane Sawyer on Monday I wasn't paying to much attention wasn't really interested at the time. Was doing laundry. whatever.
ciao Donna
Posted by Donna on November 13, 1996 at 18:34:14:
] ] ] I just received my copy of The Making of Pride and Prejudice yesterday. I was shocked to see a picture of the the actress who portrayed Lizzie. She is really blonde and fair. There are also pictures of the other actors, and many of them look extremely different. I think Colin Firth looks much better as Darcy than in other pictues I have seen of him.
] ]
] ] I think CF looks best as Darcy because it is the only role where he wasn't forced to cut his hair too short and wear a ridiculous mustache. We'll see what they do to him in "The English Patient."
]
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] He looks very, very cute in Hostages too - with that curly hair. In fact I think looks closest to his real-life image in that movie. I sure hope he'll never try that mustache bit again !
] Zimei
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If you had a chance to do an interview with CF what would you ask or do?
ciao Donna
PS.I had a chance to meet Bruce Hornsby in person. Before I realized it I was interveiwing him. He became very defensive and wanted to what newspaper I was working. I just asked a few question about his music.
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Posted by Tay on November 13, 1996 at 18:37:39:
] ] ] Althogth, I live in the middle east, where we "enjoy" terror attacks every now and then - I think Pakistan is just a little bit too risky for my taste, isn't going there is like putting yourself in the middle of a fire zone? (according to cnn?)
] ] ] Adi
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] ] "firing zone"?!!!
] ] No, CNN's got it wrong . . . again. Pakistan's relatively safe, it suffers once in awhile from enemy attacks (don't all countries?), but otherwise it's a really nice place. I've visited there before once, and despite its fascinating and fiery politics, the people are so friendly, hospitable, and kind - sort of like the Arab hospitality, I guess. But having never been to an Arab country, I couldn't really say.
] ] In fact, the Pak-Indo subcontinent has been my passion for quite awhile. I am in love with its history, especially during the eighteenth and nineteenth centuries, when the English were beginning their imperial moves. It's a really fascinating place, and it's my life besides P&P2. I'm even trying (blush) to write a novel, though I hardly suppose it'll come out good enough. . . .
] ] Tay
] ] You're from the Middle East? Where? Are you an Arab? I've know a few, and they're really good friends!
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] I once dated a man who was from Pakistan. If he is any indication of the men there...Very Handsome! Have fun!
] - Candace
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Candace,
Thanks! I will!
Tay
Posted by Arnessa on November 13, 1996 at 18:45:16:
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I love the CD, too. I have a 3-disc CD changer in my stereo. So at one time I can have a random play with the P&P soundtrack, the S&S soundtrack, and my only Beethoven CD. Heaven!
The S&S soundtrack is well worth the money too. I didn't really notice the music when I saw the movie, I confess. But I bought the soundtrack at Borders after hearing it on one of those listening posts. It really is heartbreaking music. I like to listen to it when it's grey and rainy out. And when I'm really mad at the world, I'll put it on with a cup of tea and count the minutes till the tears start flowing. It's soooooo cathartic. Better than therapy.
-Arnessa (sniffle, sniffle)
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Posted by Hilary on November 13, 1996 at 18:46:13:
I'm a biologist, and I have a very strong opinion that all the trouble you went to with the milk was very good for your little boy.
] Jane A.
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Thanks, Jane. I had no doubts that it was the right thing to do, although it was difficult at the time, and I think that that sheer stubborness got us through. He breastfed for about a year or so, and then one day just said no thanks! He is now a fit but slight 14 year old, desperately waiting for a growth spurt, and he's a treat.
What kind of biologist are you? My husband is an environmental physicist, but his best science mates are usually biologists and geographers. He usually finds their outlook on life more enjoyable than physicists. He has been reading a book called 'The Red Queen' by Mat Ridley (a student of Dawkins) which is about sex and the evolution of human nature. I have been trying to have a look at it too, and it seems it could be pertinent to P&P - there's a lot about how different species, including ours, coose mates. Do you know this book?
Hilary
Posted by Hilary on November 13, 1996 at 18:46:35:
I'm a biologist, and I have a very strong opinion that all the trouble you went to with the milk was very good for your little boy.
] Jane A.
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Thanks, Jane. I had no doubts that it was the right thing to do, although it was difficult at the time, and I think that that sheer stubborness got us through. He breastfed for about a year or so, and then one day just said no thanks! He is now a fit but slight 14 year old, desperately waiting for a growth spurt, and he's a treat.
What kind of biologist are you? My husband is an environmental physicist, but his best science mates are usually biologists and geographers. He usually finds their outlook on life more enjoyable than physicists. He has been reading a book called 'The Red Queen' by Mat Ridley (a student of Dawkins) which is about sex and the evolution of human nature. I have been trying to have a look at it too, and it seems it could be pertinent to P&P - there's a lot about how different species, including ours, choose mates. Do you know this book?
Hilary
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Posted by Inko on November 13, 1996 at 18:53:57:
] ] How much was 10,000 pounds in the day of P&P compared to today? Does anyone know? I know that that amount was considered a fourtune in itself, but Darcy got that amount every year. He must have been VERY rich!
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] Darcy has about 200,000 pounds income-generating equity (with 5% interest it generates a 10,000 pounds annuity), on top of other fortune such as Pemberly estate.
] That means that Darcy's fortune is about twich of Bingley's
] and five times of Bennet's. My impression is that such
] differences mean a lot more at that time than now.
] I've been curious about the today's equivalence of their relative financial situations.
] Zimei
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In my Norton Critical edition of P&P (edited by Donald Gray) there is a long footnote about wealth and its equivalent value today:
"Charles Roberts (quoted in James Heldman "How Wealthy is Mr. Darcy Really" [Persuasions 12 (1990): 38-49]) calculates that an 1810 pound is worth about $33.00 in current U.S. dollars. (Roberts used the value of the dollar in 1988 in his calculation, and for these necessarily imprecise estimates, his equivalences are still useful.) Mr. Bennet's annual income is therefore about $66,000; Darcy's annual income is over $330,000 (L10,000); and Bingley's about $165,000 (L5,000). Because taxes on income were relatively low, labor cheap, and landowners like Darcy and Mr. Bennet could partially supply their households from their own farms, the purchasing power of these incomes was undoubtedly greater in Austen's time than in our own. Perhaps a more accurate measure of the affluence of Austen's characters is that in 1810 the nominal annual income of agricultural laborers was L42, of skilled laborers between L55 and L90, of clerks L178, and of lawyers L447. (B.R. Mitchell, British Historical Statistics [1988] 153).
Sorry this is so long but didn't know what to leave out. Also my L is supposed to be a pound sign - don't have it on my keyboard.
Inko.
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Posted by Debbie on November 13, 1996 at 18:56:51:
] ] ] I just received my copy of The Making of Pride and Prejudice yesterday. I was shocked to see a picture of the the actress who portrayed Lizzie. She is really blonde and fair. There are also pictures of the other actors, and many of them look extremely different. I think Colin Firth looks much better as Darcy than in other pictues I have seen of him.
] ]
] ] I think CF looks best as Darcy because it is the only role where he wasn't forced to cut his hair too short and wear a ridiculous mustache. We'll see what they do to him in "The English Patient."
]
] _______
] He looks very, very cute in Hostages too - with that curly hair. In fact I think looks closest to his real-life image in that movie. I sure hope he'll never try that mustache bit again !
] Zimei
What's the lowdown on "Hostages"? I've never seen it but I've heard the name thrown about.
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Posted by Donna on November 13, 1996 at 19:06:25:
] ] ] How much was 10,000 pounds in the day of P&P compared to today? Does anyone know? I know that that amount was considered a fourtune in itself, but Darcy got that amount every year. He must have been VERY rich!
] ]
] ] _______
] ] Darcy has about 200,000 pounds income-generating equity (with 5% interest it generates a 10,000 pounds annuity), on top of other fortune such as Pemberly estate.
] ] That means that Darcy's fortune is about twich of Bingley's
] ] and five times of Bennet's. My impression is that such
] ] differences mean a lot more at that time than now.
] ] I've been curious about the today's equivalence of their relative financial situations.
] ] Zimei
]
] _______
]
] In my Norton Critical edition of P&P (edited by Donald Gray) there is a long footnote about wealth and its equivalent value today:
[
Inko, in "What Jane Austen Ate and Charles Dickens Knew" the pound was worth between $20,$50, and $200 he calls intrepid esimates. Daniel Pool 1993 He had no clear answer.
cioa Donna
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Posted by Zog on November 13, 1996 at 19:19:42:
] Please email and let me know if I can get a quorum, then we can watch. I must tell you that it is a wonderful, delicious film. And Hugh Grant looks sooo young. Please give it a thought.
] Thank you very much,
] Laura
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Zog the Far Side cave may say:
_Maurice_ good. _Passage to India_ bad!
Posted by Katy on November 13, 1996 at 19:21:13:
] Hilary
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I wonder a lot about Charles and Caroline and Darcy. Does Caroline's obvious crush on Darcy embarass her brother? He seems to be aware of it but takes it in stride. He tells her that complimenting Darcy's letter-writing will not do because Darcy does not write with ease as she suggests. He laughs off her pseudo-intellectual suggestion that conversation should replace dancing at a ball ("More rational, my dear Caroline, but not nearly so much like a ball")
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Posted by Kali on November 13, 1996 at 19:22:57:
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Ian,
I love your little scissors symbol. Very creative. May I have your permission to use it too?
Cousin Kali
Posted by Hilary on November 13, 1996 at 19:30:25:
] Please email and let me know if I can get a quorum, then we can watch. I must tell you that it is a wonderful, delicious film. And Hugh Grant looks sooo young. Please give it a thought.
] Thank you very much,
] Laura
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Yes, I'll be in it if I can get hold of the video. It's a great book. I'll be interested to see if it changes my (adverse) opinion of HG.
Hilary
Posted by Anna on November 13, 1996 at 19:38:03:
I'm wondering if I'm theonly one who's been suffering from bouncing posts the last couple of days? Several times when I've hit the 'submit follow-up' button I've ended back on the follow-up page rather than the 'your message has been posted' page, and if I return to (and refresh) the main page my message has not appeared. A few hours later I'm able to get through. So far it's happened only with follow-ups - it'll be interesting to see if this new post goes through. I'm wondering is it my system, or a server problem - it seems to happen when it's evening in the USA ? peak time.
in perplexity
Anna
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Posted by Paula O. on November 13, 1996 at 19:40:38:
] ] One more for your list.
] ] My name is Hope and I'm a dedicated 22 year old eavesdropper from New Brunswick, Canada. Some day I may get enough courage to post a real message.
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] Welcome to our little (?) band. You have been added to the table.
] Anne
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Posted by Paula O. on November 13, 1996 at 19:44:19:
I would also like to be added to your list. My name is Paula and I am 22 years old. I live in Pennsylvania and am a hopeless addict of P&P 2. I also would like to talk to anyone who is also interested. Love your website. Keep up the good work.
Posted by Anne on November 13, 1996 at 19:46:56:
] I think we can all agree that Colin Firth as Darcy is very sexy, but exactly what is it about him? I love the character Darcy, but the actor who portrayed him in P&P1 was not sexy in the least. So, what does everyone think? I love his (Colin's) voice.
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His eyes and his way of projecting his feelings with just a look and a slight (very slight) smile.
Anne
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Posted by Mich on November 13, 1996 at 19:48:48:
] ] ] ] I just received my copy of The Making of Pride and Prejudice yesterday. I was shocked to see a picture of the the actress who portrayed Lizzie. She is really blonde and fair. There are also pictures of the other actors, and many of them look extremely different. I think Colin Firth looks much better as Darcy than in other pictues I have seen of him.
] ] ]
] ] ] I think CF looks best as Darcy because it is the only role where he wasn't forced to cut his hair too short and wear a ridiculous mustache. We'll see what they do to him in "The English Patient."
] ]
] ] _______
] ] He looks very, very cute in Hostages too - with that curly hair. In fact I think looks closest to his real-life image in that movie. I sure hope he'll never try that mustache bit again !
] ] Zimei
]
] _______
] If you had a chance to do an interview with CF what would you ask or do?
] ciao Donna
] PS.I had a chance to meet Bruce Hornsby in person. Before I realized it I was interveiwing him. He became very defensive and wanted to what newspaper I was working. I just asked a few question about his music.
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Since he and Ehle got so close to the characters I wonder what they think happened to the Darcy's after they were married. Do they think they lived happily ever after?Kids? ect. Of course I'd like to know the real scoop between he and Jennifer.
Also what were his thoughts on Darcy's thoughts during the Pemeberly scene, from the time Lizzie and Darcy run into each other until the time she left the Lampton inn. What inspired "the look".
I have a million more about their thoughts and interpretations in certain scenes but I won't ramble on.
Mich
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Posted by Paula O. on November 13, 1996 at 19:53:08:
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] I love the CD, too. I have a 3-disc CD changer in my stereo. So at one time I can have a random play with the P&P soundtrack, the S&S soundtrack, and my only Beethoven CD. Heaven!
] The S&S soundtrack is well worth the money too. I didn't really notice the music when I saw the movie, I confess. But I bought the soundtrack at Borders after hearing it on one of those listening posts. It really is heartbreaking music. I like to listen to it when it's grey and rainy out. And when I'm really mad at the world, I'll put it on with a cup of tea and count the minutes till the tears start flowing. It's soooooo cathartic. Better than therapy.
] -Arnessa (sniffle, sniffle)
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Where can I buy the Pride and Prejudice soundtrack??? I would appreciate it if someone could post the address again. I missed it the first time. Thanks!!!!
Paula. .
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Posted by Donna on November 13, 1996 at 19:55:14:
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] ] Hilary
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t conversation should replace dancing at a ball ("More rational, my dear Caroline, but not nearly so much like a ball")
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I always wondered who she would talk to. Was there anyboby she would like.
ciao Donna
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