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Posted by Amy on November 05, 1996 at 22:39:37:
Arnessa just emailed me with the same question. Thanks for asking. Deal is a have a personal account, and don't get charged extra at the moment but that could change soon. First, I think I will try to work out a trade deal with my ISP. I sometimes teach seminars for them. Another possibility is advertising. We don't get mega hits but we are women and we buy things. We are a coveted demo.
Amy
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Posted by Anne on November 05, 1996 at 22:42:47:
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: : I must say that I actually loved P&P1 -- the one with D. Rintoul and E. Garvie --,too. Does that make me a bad person?
: : Julie
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: I enjoyed it too - just don't admit to preferring P&P1 to P&P2 :-)
: Anna
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I enjoy P&P1 also (as a whole). P&P2 is my favorite, of course, but there are a few scenes I felt better handled in P&P1 -- am waiting for the P&P1 discussion later this month.
Anne
Posted by Joan, too on November 05, 1996 at 22:45:04:
No, I'll be merrily scrolling or typing along, dwelling too long on a single page and then - click! - the connection drops. So I have to reconnect and reconstruct where I was. My server says it's not their problem so I guess it's mine. (I have already switched servers but still have the same trouble.) Does anyone know a solution for this other than speed reading/typing - (or, as one of you was kind to suggest, to disconnect and switch to a word processor which is disruptive)?
: Janet
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I would not be surprised if your ISP were responsible. Many of them have Daemons (automated processes) running on their machines that close any connections that have appeared to be "idle" for more than some specific amount of time. This is keeps their access lines from being tied up when someone disconnects without logging out properly and the connection does not get closed, leaving the line technically "busy" but not actually being used.
Joon, too
Posted by Amy on November 05, 1996 at 22:46:22:
Terese,
I wondered about this, too, back in the pioneer days of this board when I was not so good about archives. Fortunately Henry the Linky Packrat kept some early messages. Here is his answer and some other silly stuff.
Amy
Link:
Posted by Lucia on November 05, 1996 at 22:50:52:
: 1. Have you played video editor to such an extent as you never have before with this film -- taping the first time with commercials, retaping in August, carefully editing the commercials? Contemplating setting your alarm to wake up instead of programming the VCR for the upcoming commercial-free cablecase so you have no untidy lead-ins between episodes?
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I really appreciate the notice about this A&E classroom presentation. I'll be guilty as charged--taping it for the third time, hoping to get a definitive version this time. My commercial editing was a bit sloppy last time. And I do want those other bits, some of which I still have not seen.
I'll take this opportunity to say hello to the group. Not only am I a P&P2 addict, but my two daughters (aged 11 & 13) are as well. We've all read the book several times too. We even got my son (16) to watch it once and he liked it (but will not turn into an addict).
I like reading all your posts. I've been lurking for a while. Only I do wish this were a UseNet newsgroup because my newsreader is more efficient at reading posts than my web browser is. (I don't like mailing lists where posts get dumped in my e-mail.) It would also be nice to look up Deja News to see what I missed.
I saw Colin Firth in The Advocate (the pig movie) on our Showcase channel on Saturday night. (I'm in Canada.) He's a little scrawny in the buff, but I enjoyed his performance. And he was wet.
Looking forward to participating in your discussions,
Lucia
Posted by Joan, too on November 05, 1996 at 22:53:02:
: : he gave me no warning, and in fact never responded or wrote to me in any way. He merely unsubscribed me.
: : julie
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: Hmmmm - as Jane Bennet would say, perhaps there has been some terrible mistake? If he never wrote to you in any way, perhaps the unsubscription was accidental? A list that I have
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Well dang me! It did this to me last night, too! The above should have said:
Hmmmm - as Jane Bennet would say, perhaps there has been some terrible mistake? If he never wrote to you in any way, perhaps the unsubscription was accidental? A list that I havehave been on for several years recently sent out the blanket resubscription notice - to which I replied and received confirmation (automated) that I was successfully re-subscried, and the next day I received yet another resubscription notice, which I ignored, thinking it a second notice, and believing the matter already taken care of. Boy was I surprised to receive an (automated) unsibscription notice! The list owner had inadvertently re-started the process, and quite a few people were left up the creek without a paddle!
Joan, too
Posted by Ann on November 05, 1996 at 22:55:58:
: : My family used to play "Pose the Horrible Question." Maybe that is why I am so odd. Like, my dad would ask, "If you were starving, would you eat Pudgy?" (Our cat.)
: : A few years ago I was doing a survey for Exposures, the photo accessories catalog, and asked customers, "If your home was lost in a fire, which picture would you most hate to lose?" 5% of the respondents called me cruel or mean.
: : So here goes on our favorite topic.
: : 1. Have you played video editor to such an extent as you never have before with this film -- taping the first time with commercials, retaping in August, carefully editing the commercials? Contemplating setting your alarm to wake up instead of programming the VCR for the upcoming commercial-free cablecase so you have no untidy lead-ins between episodes?
: : 2. If, God forbid, Clinton were murdered tonight, would you still have the presence of mind to tape P&P in the morning?
: : 3. Are those of you who own the tape still going to tape it as a back-up or pusher's copy?
: : Amy
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1. I have: my original tape from the first airing, then
when it reaired I made a second all-on-one tape as well as a
set of 3 2-hour tapes (when it reaired in the middle of the
night), then I bought the commercial tapes, now I'm planning
on getting up bright and early and taping it tomorrow--for a
grand total of 5 different copies!!!. I tried pushing it
once but the person didn't pull.
2. I voted for Dole :-(.
Ann
Posted by Stefanie on November 05, 1996 at 22:57:16:
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: When daydreaming I like to think about what could have happened if Lydia hadn't intervened...
: Darcy 'just happening' to run into the Gardiners and Lizzy on their walk... another dinner invitation... visits between Georgiana and Lizzy... the Gardiners extending their stay several times, until business calls Mr Gardiner home... *then* Lizzy being invited (by Georgiana, to preserve the proprieties) to stay... increasing amity and intimacy between Lizzy and Darcy...
: I'm sure they would have got together even without the Lydia episode giving Darcy his chance to shine,
: Anna
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I agree, although it probably would have taken longer.
Stefanie
Posted by Raewyn on November 05, 1996 at 23:01:18:
: : In an attept to sort this little quandry once and for all, we know that Lydia is sixteen when she marries Wickham (31st August). Now in the film Lizzie corrects Wickham and tells him Lydia is 15 not 16. This is after Lizzie gets back from Rosings (about the third week in May) and before Wickham and Co. depart for Brighton (June sometime). Therefore Lydia's sixteenth birthday must have been between the middle of June and the end of August.
: : I hope this makes sense.
: : Bernie
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: A few points of reference from the book (for corroboration purposes). Vol. 1 Chapter IX . "Lydia was a stout, well-grown girl of fifteen, with a fine complexion and good humoured contenance..." ( Mrs. B, Kitty & Lydia visit Netherfield -- 14th November).
: Vol. 2 Chapter XVIII . "Her character will be fixed, and she will, at sixteen, be the most determined flirt that ever made herself and her family ridiculous..." (Lizzie entreating her father not to allow Lydia to go to Brighton -- late June ?).
: So between the book and P&P2 it appears that Lydia's birthday is mid June.
: Bernie
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Your brilliant deduction prove to be completely correct. In another part of the book Mrs Bennet confirms Lydia's birthday is in June.
This occurs in her speech of delight at having heard the news that Lydia will soon be married. She says
"And she was only sixteen last June."
Raewyn
Posted by Inko on November 05, 1996 at 23:03:52:
True, true. I have a rule which I force myself to follow religiously and that is: I don't allow myself to watch a movie until I read the book. This rule a[pplies for me from Emma to A Time to Kill.
: I find that if I don't read the book first, I miss out on developing my own images and interpretations. Even if I read the book after seeing the film, I can't shake the "suggestions" brought forth by the actors, the screenplay writers and the directors.
: Stefanie
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Stefanie - I agree with you, especially about JA books and films. But I must confess, I never managed to complete Middlemarch before I saw it, and so far I've only tried bits and pieces of Joseph Conrad's "Nostromo" but haven't been able to get "into" the book itself. I find Conrad is very difficult reading anyway and terribly dull. Thank goodness I can always retreat to JA.
I recently finished The English Patient, and couldn't see how they could make it into a film, but apparently it's a very good one, so I'm now anxious to see it.
Inko
Posted by Ann on November 05, 1996 at 23:08:25:
: Arnessa just emailed me with the same question. Thanks for asking. Deal is a have a personal account, and don't get charged extra at the moment but that could change soon. First, I think I will try to work out a trade deal with my ISP. I sometimes teach seminars for them. Another possibility is advertising. We don't get mega hits but we are women and we buy things. We are a coveted demo.
: Amy
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I wish someone would point out to A&E that we buy things--such as the video "Making of P&P"!!! Then maybe we could get them to sell it at least!
Ann
Posted by Anne on November 05, 1996 at 23:13:47:
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: I think the Daggy thread alone moves us into the PG-13 rating. luckily that as bad as we get.
: Mich
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I got bits of the Daggy Thread from the zip file Amy sent me. Most was innuendo and play-on-words -- but was a subject that I had been pondering and wanting to bring
up. :-J
Anne
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Posted by Janet on November 05, 1996 at 23:15:22:
: : Hi. I am sorry I am one more Ann, kind of. I am 14 and just read P&P. I asked my mom if this was an okay place to read messages and she looked at it and wasn't sure. This morning I asked her again and she said she had a god idea. That I should ask you if you would want your 14 old dauhters in here. She said she thought you seemed like nice people. That she would consider what you think about it. Thank you.
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: Hi Anika --
: I need your opinion. I have a son that's 13. No way will he read or watch Jane Austen. I keep telling him that he needs to just give it a chance -- then talk to the girls at school about it -- He would then be adored by them all. He thinks that I'm nuts. Am I?
: - Candace
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Sorry, I am not Anika - and I am definitely not 14 - but neither are you nuts. If you haven't already tried, perhaps you could watch the video with your son to peak his interest. If his school has a suggested (or required) reading list, perhaps you could suggest that P&P (and others) be added to the list. It may help if other children are doing the same. You are right that it would be a great advantage for him to read and try to understand as much as possible from books in general, including those involving or of interest to girls and women.
My son is only 8-1/2 and he has seen P&P1 and 2 with me and listened to my home-made audio recordings of P&P2 which we play in the car - with his friends in our carpool who find it fun. He's not quite ready for the book, but he read The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe in the past 4 days, so it won't be long before he's ready. We did get through Little Women and the recent movie together. I hope to see him read all the classics, not just Huck Finn and Tom Sawyer but Anne of Green Gables and Heidi, all of which I bought him for Christmas.
Since my son is not a teenager yet I may have more influence for awhile, but I am humble enough to see how it may become more difficult to talk sense in a few years. If you have any advise for me I would appreciate it, too. Good luck!
: Janet
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Posted by Janet on November 05, 1996 at 23:19:12:
: Joan, too & Janet:
: Your messages posted during the down time have been restored.
: Amy
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Thank you, Amy. Thank goodness I did not include the rest of my reference to envy - as it was when I first read your note I thought you may have been referring to me! I guess a little discretion goes a long way...
: Janet
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Posted by Zimei on November 05, 1996 at 23:27:42:
: :
: Jonathan Firth is Colin's younger brother. Colin also has a younger sister,Kate, who is apparently also involved in acting. Peter Firth is NOT related (completely different set of parents) although in a book about Masterpiece Theatre they said Peter and Colin were brothers. I think Julian Firth (seen in the Cadfael series) may be Peter's brother.
: Does anyone know Jonathan's age? He looks so very young in Middlemarch and in a Cadfael episode - maybe there's ten years between Colin and Jonathan.
: Inko
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Do Colin and Jonathan bear much resemblance ? Middlemarch has been on my list to watch but haven't got a chance yet ...
Zimei
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Posted by Another Anne on November 05, 1996 at 23:33:09:
I have often wondered what Mr Darcy would be called in private. Mr Darcy? Darcy? Fitzwilliam? Fitz? William?
Another Anne
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Posted by Janetunivers@concentric.net on November 05, 1996 at 23:34:02:
: No, I'll be merrily scrolling or typing along, dwelling too long on a single page and then - click! - the connection drops. So I have to reconnect and reconstruct where I was. My server says it's not their problem so I guess it's mine. (I have already switched servers but still have the same trouble.) Does anyone know a solution for this other than speed reading/typing - (or, as one of you was kind to suggest, to disconnect and switch to a word processor which is disruptive)?
: : Janet
:
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: I would not be surprised if your ISP were responsible. Many of them have Daemons (automated processes) running on their machines that close any connections that have appeared to be "idle" for more than some specific amount of time. This is keeps their access lines from being tied up when someone disconnects without logging out properly and the connection does not get closed, leaving the line technically "busy" but not actually being used.
: Joon, too
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Thank you, Joan. Believe it or not, I am not certain what ISP means, but if it relates to my server I have contacted them many times about this and they claim this should not happen - a helpful response. I have long suspected what you say about idling out, as this makes sense. What can I do about it? Thank you so much. (As I try to zip along lest I be disconnected - again...)
: Janet
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Posted by Janet on November 05, 1996 at 23:36:22:
: : No, I'll be merrily scrolling or typing along, dwelling too long on a single page and then - click! - the connection drops. So I have to reconnect and reconstruct where I was. My server says it's not their problem so I guess it's mine. (I have already switched servers but still have the same trouble.) Does anyone know a solution for this other than speed reading/typing - (or, as one of you was kind to suggest, to disconnect and switch to a word processor which is disruptive)?
: : : Janet
: :
: : ___________________
: : I would not be surprised if your ISP were responsible. Many of them have Daemons (automated processes) running on their machines that close any connections that have appeared to be "idle" for more than some specific amount of time. This is keeps their access lines from being tied up when someone disconnects without logging out properly and the connection does not get closed, leaving the line technically "busy" but not actually being used.
: : Joon, too
:
: _________
: Thank you, Joan. Believe it or not, I am not certain what ISP means, but if it relates to my server I have contacted them many times about this and they claim this should not happen - a helpful response. I have long suspected what you say about idling out, as this makes sense. What can I do about it? Thank you so much. (As I try to zip along lest I be disconnected - again...)
: : Janet
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Amy, help! I don't think I want my address in there. What have I done now?
: Janet
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Posted by Joan, too on November 05, 1996 at 23:37:21:
: I wish someone would point out to A&E that we buy things--such as the video "Making of P&P"!!! Then maybe we could get them to sell it at least!
: Ann
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I have personally pointed this out to them on numerous occasions - but to no avail. :-(
Joan, too
Posted by Ann on November 05, 1996 at 23:47:43:
: True, true. I have a rule which I force myself to follow religiously and that is: I don't allow myself to watch a movie until I read the book. This rule a[pplies for me from Emma to A Time to Kill.
: : I find that if I don't read the book first, I miss out on developing my own images and interpretations. Even if I read the book after seeing the film, I can't shake the "suggestions" brought forth by the actors, the screenplay writers and the directors.
: : Stefanie
:
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: Stefanie - I agree with you, especially about JA books and films. But I must confess, I never managed to complete Middlemarch before I saw it, and so far I've only tried bits and pieces of Joseph Conrad's "Nostromo" but haven't been able to get "into" the book itself. I find Conrad is very difficult reading anyway and terribly dull. Thank goodness I can always retreat to JA.
: I recently finished The English Patient, and couldn't see how they could make it into a film, but apparently it's a very good one, so I'm now anxious to see it.
: Inko
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I actually do it the other way around. I like to see the
movies first (if they are concidered to be good ones). I
find that it gives me a framework on which the book builds.
I don't build visual imagery in my head when I read books
cold anyway, so I don't gain anything by reading a book first.
I suppose I'm just strange, but I enjoy books much more if I
have seen the film first.
Ann the Heretic
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