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Posted by Cheryl on October 30, 1996 at 10:26:54:
: : Now, now, ladies, give Mr. Collins a chance. Sometimes the most unexpected people can prove marvelous lovers. He was known for his desire to please.
: .....And if that did not hold true, you could take comfort in the fact that your life expectancy at the time would be very short.
: Grace
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Happy thought, indeed!
Cheryl
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Posted by Stefanie on October 30, 1996 at 10:38:08:
: I bought the book at used bookstore for half the original price. However, I'm returning it 'coz it is not a keeper. I heard Pemberly Shades is a better sequel. I wish I could swap it with this one.
: Sylvia
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Pemberley Shades is better. I jjst read it and Tennant's two sequels a few weeks ago. In Pemberley Shades, the Darcys have beautiful baby boy and they are pretty happy. The main plot evolves around the death of the clergyman of the parish. It's a quick read and while it isn't completely satisfying, it is A LOT better than Tennant's, mainly because Bonavia-Hunt is not preocupied with ruining their marriage.
Stefanie :)
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Posted by Stefanie on October 30, 1996 at 10:45:34:
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: For anyone in the U.S. who hasn't already purchased the tapes, check PriceClub/Costco -- they had the set for $59.99
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If you don't have a Price/Costco near you, the Wiz has thme for $69.99.
Stefanie
Posted by IF on October 30, 1996 at 11:46:53:
(Can you tell I have alot of time on my hands!!) Ann _____________ You certainly do .
Posted by IF on October 30, 1996 at 12:17:05:
::Would not the Colonel,Lady Cath(and the Collinses) wonder why he was so distraught that he refused to come to dinner. ____________ I think the Colonel does realised that Darcy had been refused because Darcy had spoken of Lizzy before and Fitzwilliam I think suspected that Darcy was in love with her.But I also think that Fitzwilliam knew that Lizzy did't like Darcy because earlier when Lizzy and Fitz are walking Fitz tells Lizzy about the part Darcy had played in the Jane/Bingley affair and Lizzy gets really angry and say's that Darcy had no right to interfere and Fitz is surprised at her answerand asks her does she think that Darcy's interference was officious.Lizzy says yes and Fitzwiliam is wondering why would she say something like that about the man who wants to marry her if she did'nt love him.Am I making any sense. ____________
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Posted by Carolyn on October 30, 1996 at 12:32:13:
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: : I have seen this play among the offers from BBC and been contemplating the possibility of maybe getting it as a Christmas present.
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: For years I have been looking for the boxed set (which would be great indeed as the series was extremely long). I recommended it to my Mother when it was on the first time and she adored it. She always wanted the set. Now that she is gone, I still find myself looking for it. I am taping it from PBS now (in part because it is on when I'm normally not watching tv) and will be able to watch it for enjoyment and to be closer to her.
: Anne
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I think I saw it available in a recent PBS video catalog that I receive. I will double check and let you tomorrow if it is available.
Posted by Mary H on October 30, 1996 at 12:41:38:
Mr. Darcy totally wins my respect! ... he is not afraid to be who he is, regardless of what anyone thinks
: : : of him. He makes no apologies for who and what he is, and I think
: : : we can all learn from this character!
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- he listened to her critique of him and cared enough about her (and himself) to change for the better. This is not always a common occurrence in real life, and such a transformation is not easily achieved.
: : Janet
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I have to say, I admire Darcy more for his ability to change than his insistance on being himself. Yet it is his strong moral character which makes it possible for him to transform his outward self. The combination is what makes him such an interesting and attractive character.
Mary H
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Posted by Janet on October 30, 1996 at 12:43:50:
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: ::Would not the Colonel,Lady Cath(and the Collinses) wonder why he was so distraught that he refused to come to dinner. ____________ I think the Colonel does realised that Darcy had been refused because Darcy had spoken of Lizzy before and Fitzwilliam I think suspected that Darcy was in love with her.But I also think that Fitzwilliam knew that Lizzy did't like Darcy because earlier when Lizzy and Fitz are walking Fitz tells Lizzy about the part Darcy had played in the Jane/Bingley affair and Lizzy gets really angry and say's that Darcy had no right to interfere and Fitz is surprised at her answerand asks her does she think that Darcy's interference was officious.Lizzy says yes and Fitzwiliam is wondering why would she say something like that about the man who wants to marry her if she did'nt love him.Am I making any sense. ____________
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Of course you make sense. I should check how the book may differ in this segment, but in the video it seems that the goings on between Darcy and lizzy should be apparent to even the casual observer, especially the Colonel. Although the book brings him in as a potential suitor which is not included in the video, so perhaps he was more concerned with his own interests in Lizzy. It does seem hard to miss, though, doesn't it?
: Janet
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Posted by Ann on October 30, 1996 at 12:45:22:
: : One question: Is the Netherfield ball gown the same as the gown Lizzy wears to dine at Pemberley? I can't remember exactly now. But somehow they seemed the same.
: : -Arnessa.
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: No, the Netherfieil Ball gown had a round neckline and short sleeves to be worn with long gloves, while the Pemberley one has a square neckline and elbow-length sleeves.
: Joan, too
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The Pemberley gown is the same one she wore for the Meryton
assembly; which means it is the first dress he ever saw her
in.
Ann
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Posted by Mari on October 30, 1996 at 12:49:21:
: : : I've been trying to think of something intellegent to say about this subject, but words fail. I read and watch these scenes over and over and never tire of them. Wonderful writing and excellent film-making.
: : : Cheryl
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: : The scenery is magnificent -- The music beautifully builds as they each spot each other -- too close to turn and run. They are each so uncomfortable. Him damp and not properly attired (ahh, but he does look oh so fine!) yet trying so hard to be so civil and "gentlemanly". Her so embarassed (I just love the way she turns her head and takes in air before she speaks). He then takes his leave. She cannot think of anything other than getting the Hell out of there.
: : -Candace
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: Thank you for that lovely prose about the scene. Your description was almost as good as seeing it. I love the glimpse that Lizzie gives Mr. Darcy when she first sees him in his wet shirt. Whatever can she be thinking about?
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I am another lurker (since September!), and reading this BB is my lunchtime relaxation at work. I hope my picture from Mr. Showbiz shows up (above), and reminds us of what she (and we) were thinking when we suddenly saw Darcy emerging from behind the trees.
: : -Mari
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Posted by Amy on October 30, 1996 at 12:53:48:
: The Pemberley gown is the same one she wore for the Meryton
: assembly; which means it is the first dress he ever saw her
: in.
: Ann
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Ohhhhh.... hmmmmm
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Posted by Amy on October 30, 1996 at 12:57:18:
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: I am another lurker (since September!), and reading this BB is my lunchtime relaxation at work. I hope my picture from Mr. Showbiz shows up (above), and reminds us of what she (and we) were thinking when we suddenly saw Darcy emerging from behind the trees.
: : : -Mari
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Hi Mari. Thanks for surfacing. Let me try the pic. You jsut have to put exactly what you typed into the Optional image URL field.
Amy
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Posted by Donna on October 30, 1996 at 12:58:58:
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: ::Would not the Colonel,Lady Cath(and the Collinses) wonder why he was so distraught that he refused to come to dinner.
Yes, this is why I feel that Charlotte more then anyone watching events unfold always question Lizzie about his visit trying to understand why he would come to the parsonage, but they would then think that it couldn't be possible that he was in love with her. After the proposal I think Charlotte had to ask one of the servants if they had any visitors or maybe even the servants over heard the whole thing between L&D and said something to Charlotte. Then to return to Rosings very upset,someone would have to question where he was. ____________ I think the Colonel does realised that Darcy had been refused because Darcy had spoken of Lizzy before and Fitzwilliam I think suspected that Darcy was in love with her.But I also think that Fitzwilliam knew that Lizzy did't like Darcy because earlier when Lizzy and Fitz are walking Fitz tells Lizzy about the part Darcy had played in the Jane/Bingley affair and Lizzy gets really angry and say's that Darcy had no right to interfere and Fitz is surprised at her answerand asks her does she think that Darcy's interference was officious.Lizzy says yes and Fitzwiliam is wondering why would she say something like that about the
man who wants to marry her if she did'nt love him.Am I making any sense. The Col. dosen't know Lizzies true feelings only the way Darcy feels. The conversation at the parsonage between the Col. and Lizzie is not in the book Also he doesen't know it is her sister that he talking about.
Just because he is in love with her doesn't mean she returns the same feeling. In the book he told the Col. if her family were to know they would be very upset. Darcy was delightfuly surprised. I wonder how he thinks she found out about his interference. Someone always spells the beans. I am sure the Col. felt stupid after Bingley and Jane got married.
ciao Donna ____________
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Plus when they leave Rosings they are together and it does say the Col. and Darcy are close to each other then just being related. For Darcy to tell the Col about Bingley of course he didn't tell him the exact name and how mush he thought of Lizzie, I think he would tell him about being refused.
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Posted by Sylvia on October 30, 1996 at 12:59:05:
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: : I bought the book at used bookstore for half the original price. However, I'm returning it 'coz it is not a keeper. I heard Pemberly Shades is a better sequel. I wish I could swap it with this one.
: : Sylvia
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: Pemberley Shades is better. I jjst read it and Tennant's two sequels a few weeks ago. In Pemberley Shades, the Darcys have beautiful baby boy and they are pretty happy. The main plot evolves around the death of the clergyman of the parish. It's a quick read and while it isn't completely satisfying, it is A LOT better than Tennant's, mainly because Bonavia-Hunt is not preocupied with ruining their marriage.
: Stefanie :)
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Where did you get the book? I would like to order it.
Thanks.
Sylvia
Posted by Mary H on October 30, 1996 at 13:27:55:
As to Darcy's shirt, that is the type he always wears apparently. You are right Joan, too, that it is the same in the swim and also when he has finished his letter at Rosings and is splashing his face with water. I guess that is all he had for "casual" wear.
: Rebecca
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I just got this image of a Regency "Gap" with nothing but white shirts and beige dresses.
Mary H
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Posted by Mari on October 30, 1996 at 13:28:12:
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: Hi Mari. Thanks for surfacing. Let me try the pic. You jsut have to put exactly what you typed into the Optional image URL field.
: Amy
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Amy - Aha! I knew there was a step missing somewhere. Thanx.
: Mari
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Posted by Amy on October 30, 1996 at 13:33:47:
: The Pemberley gown is the same one she wore for the Meryton
: assembly; which means it is the first dress he ever saw her
: in.
: Ann
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In addition to the costuming choice being so very sweet, it also serves to play up Darcy's statement to Miss Bingley.
"Yes,'' replied Darcy, who could contain himself no longer, "but that was only when I first knew her, for it is many months since I have considered her as one of the handsomest women of my acquaintance.''
Posted by Donna on October 30, 1996 at 13:53:47:
: : The Pemberley gown is the same one she wore for the Meryton
: : assembly; which means it is the first dress he ever saw her
: : in.
: : Ann
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: Ohhhhh.... hmmmmm
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Yes, the camera does accent the obvious. I can't say what I
really think for you all would be to harsh on me.
ciao Donna
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