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Posted by Donna on October 25, 1996 at 00:06:33:
: : Donna, it is much too early in the morning to conjure up such nauseating images.
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: Agreed. Double Ewwww. Donna I vow you like to make us squirm as much as JA herself.
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: : But seriously (just for a moment, don't panic) I don't think Caroline would allow such a thing. Her object is not to bed Darcy but to wed him and get her clutches on his name, his money and his estate. That whole "why buy the cow when you can get the milk for free" thing.
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: You think? She is so irrational in her wooing tactics that I do believe she possesses an obsession for Darcy near equal to Darcy's for Lizzy.
: Amy
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I thought it would open a line of disgust. I do think Mrs. Hurst is worse then Miss B. When she questions Jane about her family connection and the poor girl is ill. They were
so awful to her at that moment.They are very bad.
JA say that Miss Bingley was so humilated with Mr.Darcy marriage. So she couldn't ever really been in love with him.
Then this is why she could be around him in Elizabeth company.I don't know how she could have been only out for the money and positon,because in her eyes he is perfect. She tries to persuade Lizzie that his action were justified towards Whickham. When Lizzie wanted to laugh at him she said tease clamness of temper and presence of mind. He is not in her mind a subject to be laughed at.She wasn't on an intimate level with him like she would like everyone to believe, including Lizzie. Poor girl I don't know how she ever got over him.
Thanks Donna
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Posted by Donna on October 25, 1996 at 00:19:32:
: : That is truely wonderful she is two hours away from me in Pa.
: : Donna
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: Maybe you could contact her and talk her into taking you with her! Then you could come back and tell us all about it.
: Ann
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What were the odds of it being someone from Pa. I would never. I am sure she is very happy.
Donna
Posted by Karen on October 25, 1996 at 00:52:03:
: : : Jak
: : : The growth of Elizabeth's character is not as explicitly played
: : : out as Darcy's is.
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: : Lizzy's growth was more in understanding and not prejudging.
: : Darcy's was more in actions so it was much easier to see the
: : difference as well as the fact that his faults were more
: : visible to start with.
: : Just a thought.
: : Anne
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: I thought that Darcy had to change so much that it was more obvious. He almost had a complete change in personality from where he started. And Lizzie was mainly misguided in trusting Wickham and disliking Darcy after the first meeting.
: Perhaps she needed to grow up a little?
: Rose
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I agree that Elizabeth was biased but could any of us really think highly of a man who called us tolerably handsome but not enough to tempt him. It would take me a very long time to think welll of anyone who had said that to me.
Karen
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Posted by Bernie on October 25, 1996 at 03:55:40:
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: I while ago I was listening to the BBC World Service, and
: they had some local school children on reading some kind of a
: promotion, I struggled almost in vain to hear a British
: accent in their voices. With the exeptions of only one or
: two syllables they sounded entirely American!
: Horrors!
: Ann
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I live in Milton Keynes -- this is a new town/city whicht is only 25 years old. Most people that live there are overspill from Brum in the north and London in the south. The kids born and brought up in MK have developed an accent of their own which is a hybrid between American and Australian (something to do with the kind of TV they watch). I have a hard time understanding what they are trying to say a lot of the time!
Bernie
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Posted by Cheryl on October 25, 1996 at 07:41:41:
: What do you think about re-casting P&P with Dilbert characters? Dilbert could be Mr. Bennet, Dogbert could be Wickham and Ratbert could be Mr. Collins. Now, what about the women?
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Unfortunately, as in real corporate life, there are few women portrayed. I have only noticed one, but she gets in plenty of zingers so I suppose she would be Lizzy.
Cheryl
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Posted by Grace on October 25, 1996 at 07:52:39:
: : : : : : : Amy, remember: First prize is a week in Michigan, Second prize is two weeks in Michigan, and Third Prize is your name on a mailbox in Michigan. Try to have a good time, anyway!
: : : : : : Merry Christmas. Grace
: : : : :
: : : I'm in Detroit, and delighted to report that there is actually sunshine here at the moment. (Forget all those nasty jokes about Michigan only having two seasons: winter...and construction). Let's hope this brief good weather can last for Amy's visit.
: : Grace
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: What I want to know is why Detroiters have to make a U-turn,
: cross to the other side of the street, and then make a right
: turn when what they really want to do is simply turn left?
: Puzzled Cheesehead,
: Ann
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: Perhaps we cling to these U-turns out of a deep-seated wish that we had made a U-turn when entering the state? Who knows?
Posted by Cheryl on October 25, 1996 at 08:09:36:
: I've also felt that it gives him a better reason for walking
: away from Elizabeth and then running to find her again. It
: certainly added to his embarassment at seeing her, after all
: he was half naked! (For the mores of the time.) I always
: thought that his leaving her suddenly and then coming back
: to her didn't play quite right in the book (sacriledge, I
: know), but Davies' version works a bit better.
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You know we all have had dreams of being at school or a meeting naked, I have sometimes conducted meetings sitting in my bed dressed in my nightgown! I wonder if this was Darcy's version of the naked dream come true?
I agree with you Ann, I like the way it is played out in the film better, although I suppose in the book he left to go and compose himself and returned to show Lizzy he had changed (figuratively, not literally, although the literal change, as you say, works quite well.)
Cheryl
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Posted by Mary H on October 25, 1996 at 08:59:27:
: Unfortunately, as in real corporate life, there are few women portrayed. I have only noticed one, but she gets in plenty of zingers so I suppose she would be Lizzy.
: Cheryl
(Let's see if I can get the image in the right place this time.)
Actually, I think there is more than one woman, it's just that they all look alike (unlike the men). They all have that sort of wavy pyramid hair-do. There is also a secretary character who appears infrequently who has a kind of beehive. Maybe she could be Hill. Still, it's going to be confusing if all the women look alike. I suppose we should forget this idea.
Posted by kim on October 25, 1996 at 09:20:27:
I just found this in Yahoo, and I think it is great. I thought I was the only one who loved the series so much.
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Posted by Cheryl on October 25, 1996 at 09:44:49:
: I just found this in Yahoo, and I think it is great. I thought I was the only one who loved the series so much.
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Welcome, Kim. We have all felt as you do upon our first visit here. Check out the virtual viewing notice located on the bottom of the main page and feel free to jump on in, although any topic relating to P&P (and some that are not) are fair game.
Cheryl
Posted by Paula on October 25, 1996 at 10:04:04:
:I suppose in the book he left to go and compose himself and returned to show Lizzy he had changed (figuratively, not literally, although the literal change, as you say, works quite well.)
: Cheryl
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I agree the swimming scene works because it shows how Darcy has changed.
He impulsively decides to cool off in the water and dives headlong into the lake. This spontaneous act shows how he's becoming less stiff and proper, and more relaxed and open.
This is mirrored by his physical disarray when he sees Lizzy. Although he's quick to get dressed up again (he hasn't gotten *that* informal!) it shows he's loosening up.
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Posted by Mich on October 25, 1996 at 10:06:19:
: : : I will be away through Sunday night, checking in occasionally but on the road a lot and in family celebrations. Christmas actually. My parents in Michigan leave for Florida next week and we celebrate Christmas with them before they leave.
: : : Amy
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: : : Amy, remember: First prize is a week in Michigan, Second prize is two weeks in Michigan, and Third Prize is your name on a mailbox in Michigan. Try to have a good time, anyway!
: : Merry Christmas. Grace
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: I thought that joke was reserved for boring San Joaquin Valley agrcultural communities (does anybody remember the CCR song "Stuck in Lodi Again"?). Any other Californians out there?
: - K
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I'm in San Francisco. Have you been able to find any good resources in the bay area for JA stuff?
mich
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