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Posted by Sue on October 18, 1996 at 21:56:50:
Get a grip yourself!!! Yes, it's Sue again and you can take your snotty little butt-faced attitude and get out of here, for all we'll miss you! I am sorry, but you just don't have the attitude to appreciate fine literature when it's staring you in the face!!! And, yes, to answer your question, I do!! Whan I was eleven, before this movie even came out, I had read all of Jane Austen's novels and praised the greatest authoress of all time, in my opinion. I have since then been to her house in England, and loved it. I have more respect for her than you ever did, and more than you ever will.
Posted by Amy on October 18, 1996 at 22:03:27:
Jane, I took the whole Betty thread away. I am sure we can find sillier things to talk about. It was getting out of hand and the participants, unlike those in the Daggy thread, did not appear to be as willing to self regulate -- or as able see what this place is supposed to be. For those who don't get what it is... just don't come. Why on earth would you want to?
Amy
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Posted by Janey on October 18, 1996 at 22:08:17:
Is it just me, or is Lydia the most obnoxious little brat you have ever
seen? It was horrible of her to run on with Wiggham, and, scoundrel that he was, even HE was too good for her!!!
She must have known that Lizzy felt some feeling for him!! She is a monster!!!
Lydia is a brat, but a well-portrayed one at that.
Care to comment?
Posted by Jane on October 18, 1996 at 22:12:04:
Amy,
Thank you for telling me about the Betty thread. You are right, it was getting out of hand and it needed to be stopped. But who knows--when will Betty strike next???
Posted by Lana--Help--Me!!!! on October 18, 1996 at 22:17:09:
: Get a grip yourself!!! This is Lana and you can take your snotty little butt-faced attitude and get out, for all we'll miss you! I am sorry, but you don't have the attitude to appreciate fine literature when it's staring you in the face!!! And, yes, to answer your question, I do!! Whan I was eleven, before this movie even came out, I had read all of Jane Austen's novels and praised the greatest authoress of all time, in my opinion. I have since then been to her house in England, and loved it. I have more respect for her than you ever did, and more than you ever will.
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This is Lana and I could just die!!!
Someone wrote this but it wasn't me!! Someone must have used this name as a practical joke!! I don't want any one against me and I can't believe that someone would do this!! But they did, and the damage is done. Please believe me!!!
Posted by Sylvia on October 18, 1996 at 23:00:12:
I just want to say to the members of the creative writings of the
friends of Firth how much I have enjoyed their stories. As soon as
I turn on my computer I always go to their page and read what new
stories they added included. I hope they continue doing it because
they are very entertaining. Thank you.
Sylvia
Posted by Rose on October 18, 1996 at 23:07:57:
: : : : : : : : Aaahhhh!
: : : : : : : : Cheryl
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: : : : : : : Or as Kitty and Lydia would put it, "Mmmmmmmmmmmmm!"
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: : : : : : When I saw all these posts I thought you were all going to give me a hard time because I hadn't looked closely enough and they were daisies or something!
: : : : : : Hilary
: : : : : Apart from how cute Darcy looks striding through the buttercups - I did wonder how many takes they had to do of this scene and whether they had to bring on special 'buttercup groomers' to have them looking 'unstrode through'
: : : : : Pity Darcy wasn't even less formally attired - didn't they have speedos in those days!!
: : : : : Cheers
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: : : : why this reminds me of a perivous thread concerning Darcys attire.
: : : : I think I'll reread it.
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: : : : Oh, no!
: : : : Grace
: : Which previous thread - Have I missed something.
: : Drat!
: : Rose
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: Rose, you can still catch this. It is the 'Daggy' thread, which originally starts as 'Oh, and speaking of hands'. And thanks to Betty who put us down that track.
: Enjoy!
: Hilary
Thanks Hilary!
I'm a New Zealander, so 'Daggy' is somewhat appropriate - no sheep jokes please!!!
Cheers
Rose
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Posted by Amy on October 18, 1996 at 23:11:11:
Lana,
I don't hanve an email link for you or I would address you privately. Your latest message did not show up because I had just deleted the post you were responding to.
I know that evil other Lana isn't you. But I don't know what to do about this terrorism. I cleared out a couple hundred messages in hopes of starting fresh. If that doesn't work, I'll just shut down for a while or forever. I don't need this crap. We'll just go to a private email list or something. Too bad.
Amy
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Posted by Ian on October 18, 1996 at 23:12:26:
: When is the piety scene?
: Marsha
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G'day All,
Not having a video player or the tape of the P&P2 series I can only recall my dim memories of the scene.
I think I can recall it was in the 2nd Episode where Mr Collins comes to visit the Bennets at Longbourn. He is introduced to the family, of course after making all aware of his connections with Lady C. It is here I think that he makes the face after making acquaintance with Mary.
What a contrast Mr C is when compared with noble Darcy.
Posted by Rose on October 18, 1996 at 23:14:27:
: : or
: : : he is the mysterious patient. Does anyone know how important is his role.
: : : Just wondering Donna,
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: : I don't know the book. I don't follow the Firthlist so carefully as I follow the discussions here. I don't know much do I? Have a feeling he must be the patient. According to the Firthlisters Miramax says his pic is not up because they don't have a pic. Were he playing the lead, it seems they would make certain they got a picture. Apparently (also according to the snippets of the Firthlist I do read) Colin hasn't his own publicist at the moment, only the temp Disney rep for 1,000 Acres for which he just finished the location stuff outside Chicago and is now back in LA for the rest. He either does not want to push his image --- or something: finds it beneath him to be sold like so much sausage? Cares little for what Americans think? Doesn't know how? Doesn't want to be any bigger? Go figure.
: : Amy
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: I think when your an actor and have done some of the films he has done you should expect to be a commodity of some sort. I don't think he should care what we think, or sell out I think maybe he doesn't know what he wants, with fame and fortune you gain respect from you peers. They say stardom is fleeting , make hay while the sunshines.
: All of a sudden he is making so many movies, so the more movies he makes the more he'll be in the public eye. In this knew movie 1,000 acres he will really be in the middle of two very popular "American" movie stars. I think he wants it all. He just wants to appear humble.
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: Donna
I thought so too - until I read that the guy doesn't own a TV. Perhaps he likes the acting but not the hype - can't blame him really for wanting a 'private life'.
We don't own him do we!
Though I own him as Darcy on video!! :)
Cheers
Rose
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Posted by Donna on October 18, 1996 at 23:33:40:
: Lana,
: I don't hanve an email link for you or I would address you privately. Your latest message did not show up because I had just deleted the post you were responding to.
: I know that evil other Lana isn't you. But I don't know what to do about this terrorism. I cleared out a couple hundred messages in hopes of starting fresh. If that doesn't work, I'll just shut down for a while or forever. I don't need this crap. We'll just go to a private email list or something. Too bad.
: Amy
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Amy is something wrong what do you mean by terrorism. You sound very upset.
Donna
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Posted by Amy on October 19, 1996 at 00:34:25:
:
: Amy is something wrong what do you mean by terrorism. You sound very upset.
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Yes. It's pointless to delete stuff I don't want up here, then tell all about what it was. It was just some nasty, putting-us-down stuff. Why? I don't understand. If they don't like this why don't they just stay away?
Amy
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Posted by Kali on October 19, 1996 at 00:55:59:
: Is it just me, or is Lydia the most obnoxious little brat you have ever: seen? It was horrible of her to run on with Wiggham, and, scoundrel that he was, even HE was too good for her!!!: She must have known that Lizzy felt some feeling for him!! She is a monster!!!: Lydia is a brat, but a well-portrayed one at that.: Care to comment?___________________Spoiled, flaky, scatterbrained, manic for attention...and yes, very well portrayed!- K
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Posted by Kali on October 19, 1996 at 01:00:40:
: : Davies lets him keeep on talking to Lizzy so much as they walk to Meryton,that he sounds quite breathless. Thus giving a hint that he can«t keep up with Lizzy and is not a physically fit(?) (or trim?) person. Certainly nothing to Mr Darcy!! Uhmm.: ___________________: He is played rather like an anxious eager-to-please puppy dog. Tongue hanging out and everything. Trotting around to trip up his companion, just for attention. Begging for favor. Leaping for a crumb. Delirous to have been let out. So anxious for approval. Slobbering. Bugging you. : Amy___________________We have a lot of guys like that at Berkeley. It's kind of scary, actually.- K
Posted by hat on October 19, 1996 at 01:01:45:
: Thanks Hilary!
: I'm a New Zealander, so 'Daggy' is somewhat appropriate - no sheep jokes please!!!
: Cheers
: Rose
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Rose, do Kiwis use the word 'daggy'?
Just curious.
Hilary
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Posted by Joan, too on October 19, 1996 at 02:00:20:
: : Janey:
: : Is it just me, or is Lydia the most obnoxious little brat you have ever: seen? It was horrible of her to run on with Wiggham, and, scoundrel that he was, even HE was too good for her!!!: She must have known that Lizzy felt some feeling for him!! She is a monster!!!: Lydia is a brat, but a well-portrayed one at that.: Care to comment?
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Spoiled, flaky, scatterbrained, manic for attention...and yes, very well portrayed!
- K
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The thing about Lydia's character that particularly intrigues me is that she is pretty much universally perceived as the daughter who is most like Mrs. Bennet - Alison Steadman thought so, as well, according to "The Making" - so one would assume that the Lydia we see now would be very much like what Mrs. B. was when she was that age - and when Mr. Bennet chose to marry her. The assumption here that I find mos difficult to "buy" is that Mr. B. was at one point in his life so silly himself as to be attracted to a "Lydia" and to go so far as to actually marry her! Wickham, yes, Mr. B. no way!
Joan, too
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Posted by Eric on October 19, 1996 at 02:35:34:
: : Just reading all of the "Daggy" comments and was rather taken aback to see a put down--"almost makes you want to try the Republican way."
: : Can we be nice? Honestly, I am sure there are ALL kinds who like P&P2, even us Republican types.
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: G'day All,
: Being an Aussie the only types of Republicans are those who'd like to see the ditching of QE2 for a President, along with reform of The Constitution.
: But getting back to P&P2. If Darcy was at all interested in politics would he have been a Whig or a Liberal? Come on some of you English people as you would all know better than I what he may have voted!
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I would have thought Darcy a Tory from the word go. Mind, however, with extensive connections in Scotland (Col. Fitzwilliam is the son of a Scottish Earl), he might be a little less well disposed towards the King, but the Earl is from the border regions and the shaggy highlanders may well have been found wanting in Mr. Darcy's eyes. No, I think he would vote Tory.
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Posted by Eric on October 19, 1996 at 02:37:25:
: : I find it interesting that before almost every meeting which tends to revise Lizzie's opinion of Darcy, or vice versa, Darcy is washing - at least, in P&P2. I do not, I confess, know if this is the case in the book.
: : There is one instance where this is not the case - the Lucas party at which he decides she has fine eyes and is more than merely tolerable.
: : But before he sees her playing with the dog, he's bathing. Before he hands her the letter, he's washing up. Before he meets her in the garden at Pemberly, he's swimming. The first one is where his own prejudice cracks. The second two signify the cracking of her prejudice, and the time when she suddenly, she desires his good opinion.
: : Why should these events be connected with water?
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: Inadequate 19th-century English plumbing precludes a brisk cold shower.
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Perhaps, though Mr. Darcy could well afford servants who would be willing enough to dump cold water over him.
Posted by Eric on October 19, 1996 at 02:39:13:
: : I find it interesting that before almost every meeting which tends to revise Lizzie's opinion of Darcy, or vice versa, Darcy is washing - at least, in P&P2. I do not, I confess, know if this is the case in the book.
: : There is one instance where this is not the case - the Lucas party at which he decides she has fine eyes and is more than merely tolerable.
: : But before he sees her playing with the dog, he's bathing. Before he hands her the letter, he's washing up. Before he meets her in the garden at Pemberly, he's swimming. The first one is where his own prejudice cracks. The second two signify the cracking of her prejudice, and the time when she suddenly, she desires his good opinion.
: : Why should these events be connected with water?
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: : Are you sure you want to plunge into this? Prepare yourself for essays containing some of the following phrases: made a splash....left her boiling....trickle of interest....feelings washing over him....drowning in emotion....like the pull of the tides....a cool miss(t).... thinking he's a drip....cleansing himself of mortifying thoughts....putting up dams between them....long dry spell....poring out his heart....storm of anger....engulfing sadness....waves of sorrow....crying out....tears on my pillow....a parched soul....stripping himself of pride....Baptism!....flowing towards each other........gentle currents....fishing for something/hooking it....rain clouds on the horizon....gonna wash that man right out of my hair....sea of love....flood of happiness....showers of good wishes....cut to the fountain on Married with Children............! I did warn you.
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In a group such as this, one does indeed risk an ocean of bad puns. The pleasant company and my very real curiosity, however, warrant the risk.
Posted by Eric on October 19, 1996 at 02:42:07:
: : : Why should these events be connected with water?
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: : : Are you sure you want to plunge into this?
: LOL! Grace, I can see you have been true to your word and transferred your attentions away from the 'daggy thread'. I shall try to do the same, though I did enjoy it!
: Eric, I hadn't made these connections. I'm inclined to think they are not intentional, but were put in to give a feel of ordinary life.
: Hilary
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Perhaps. They strike me, however, as being too deliberate. There are, to be sure, certain literary arenas which use such flirtation with water as a metaphor for sex, but I could not see those metaphors as appropriate or intended here, thus my puzzlement.
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