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Posted by Lori T on October 14, 1996 at 11:04:01:
: And yes, Guy Thwaite (Greg Wise) is wonderful.
Wasn't the girl Annabelle the Duchess of Trebenac?
Great show - I wished I had taped it
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Posted by Paola on October 14, 1996 at 11:05:14:
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: : : As for Darcy I think he had higher morals than most young men of his time.
: : : But as young rich very handsome I have hard to think him totally innocent at the age of 28.
: : : But I certainly do not think he went to the prostitutes of London with his high moral and fastidious nature.His remarks at Lucas Lodge on the very great pleasure a pair of fine eyes in
: : : the face of a pretty woman .
: : : and more his rather checky remark at Nethfield
: : : about admiring miss Bingley and Lizzys figures maybe suggests that he was not wholly unexperienced.
: : : (Or is my dirty mind going again?)
: : : Anna-Karin
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: : I feel that Darcy was not at all experienced when it came to women. Austen does describe Darcy as being "As much awake to the novelty of attention in that quarter (in that quarter meaning him looking at Elizabeth's figure as she walked around the room) as Elizabeth herself could be."
: : Paola
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: Well and I take the same passage in the text as a proof of that he maybe had some experience (but I do not think much since he was proud,shy ) with
: ladies figures.But we all read things differently;);). But maybe it is my dirty mind.
: But at that time and in his social class it would have been very unusual had he been totally innocent. But the only way to know is to ask him
: and that would be rather difficult.Maybe it has to be aomething between him and Lizzy;);)
: Anna-Karin
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How could you take that passage as a proof that he was experienced? As for Lizzy, I don't think even she would have had so much courage as to ask him on his experience in that field.
Paola
Posted by Terese on October 14, 1996 at 11:07:22:
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: : : As for Darcy I think he had higher morals than most young men of his time.
: : : But as young rich very handsome I have hard to think him totally innocent at the age of 28.
: : : But I certainly do not think he went to the prostitutes of London with his high moral and fastidious nature.His remarks at Lucas Lodge on the very great pleasure a pair of fine eyes in
: : : the face of a pretty woman .
: : : and more his rather checky remark at Nethfield
: : : about admiring miss Bingley and Lizzys figures maybe suggests that he was not wholly unexperienced.
: : : (Or is my dirty mind going again?)
: : : Anna-Karin
: :
: : ___________________
: : I feel that Darcy was not at all experienced when it came to women. Austen does describe Darcy as being "As much awake to the novelty of attention in that quarter (in that quarter meaning him looking at Elizabeth's figure as she walked around the room) as Elizabeth herself could be."
: : Paola
:
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: Well and I take the same passage in the text as a proof of that he maybe had some experience (but I do not think much since he was proud,shy ) with
: ladies figures.But we all read things differently;);). But maybe it is my dirty mind.
: But at that time and in his social class it would have been very unusual had he been totally innocent. But the only way to know is to ask him
: and that would be rather difficult.Maybe it has to be aomething between him and Lizzy;);)
: Anna-Karin
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I interpreted this passage to mean that Darcy was ignoring Miss Bingley until Duckface zeroed in on Lizzy and invited her to walk with her. Only then did Darcy look up from his book and pay attention to the two ladies. "He was as much awake to the novelty of attention in that quarter as Elizabeth herself could be" i.e. attention from Miss Bingley.
Posted by Amy on October 14, 1996 at 11:21:53:
: Last night, I saw a part of Hostages on the History channel.
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All you people reporting things on the History and Sundance Channels make me quite envious, for I have no such interesting diversions only those channels my local TCI franchise wishes to provide. I'd trade... I can't name how many dozens of the offerings I do pay for, for Bravo, History and Sundance. Almost makes you want to consider dishes.
Amy
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Posted by Laura M on October 14, 1996 at 11:40:55:
Amy, I, too, do not receive the wonderful History Channel, which could be a good thing because my cable bill would probably be way too high. But I watched the wonderful Masterpiece Theater's version of MOLL FLANDERS, and boy was I shocked at what I saw. NUDITY!!! on PBS. Alex Kingston (AKA Mrs Ralph Fiennes) is a beautiful woman so she has every right to show what she has. But it shocked me all the same. It was fabu, can't wait to see the conclusion tonite. Laura
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Posted by Zimei on October 14, 1996 at 11:43:20:
Has anybody been able to get "The Making of Pride and
Prejudice" in US ? I called around and nobody carried it
and they weren't even able to order it for me, I guess
it's still only published in UK ?
Worst to the worst I'll order it from UK, but I still hope
I can get it in US since it will be faster - I'm really
dying to read the book!
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Posted by Barbara on October 14, 1996 at 11:52:19:
:
: Has anybody been able to get "The Making of Pride and
: Prejudice" in US ? I called around and nobody carried it
: and they weren't even able to order it for me, I guess
: it's still only published in UK ?
: Worst to the worst I'll order it from UK, but I still hope
: I can get it in US since it will be faster - I'm really
: dying to read the book!
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I ordered mine from Jane Austen Books about a month ago and received it in a week. I also ordered it for a friend from Blackwell Publishing in London on the internet. Info on these two along with the ISBN # is contained in the Colin Firth FAQ on the web which you can click on from this BB
Posted by Kali on October 14, 1996 at 12:33:48:
: After reading the below comments regarding the Bennett family made
: me think about what I really like about Jane Austin Novels. We all
: would like to think that the world is changing -- but it is not.
: Everything she wrote about holds true today. What we have here is
: the classic disfunctional family. Mother is in denial, Father withdraws,
: oldest child a peace maker, and so on... Each has their role to play,
: right down to the youngest who is spoiled (although I believe that more
: does seem to be wrong with Lydia -- she doesn't at all know right from
: wrong -- possibly Mrs. Bennet worried that this one will not be a boy --
: maybe drank a little too much -- fetal alcohol syndrome??) Anyway, these
: are the similarities of "then and now" that I am impressed with regarding
: the family unit.
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Of course they're dysfunctional. I think everyone's is, to a point. I know our family, which is actually pretty normal, has its Bennet days.
- K
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Posted by Kali on October 14, 1996 at 12:46:32:
:
: : And yes, Guy Thwaite (Greg Wise) is wonderful.
:
: Wasn't the girl Annabelle the Duchess of Trebenac?
: Great show - I wished I had taped it
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Yes, Nan married Julius for his title. Certainly he was kind to her at the beginning, but she was too young to know what marriage into such a family would mean for her. I felt terrible for both of them, because neither were bad folks, but just couldn't fit themselves into such a marriage. What a nightmare - talk about being in over your head!
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Posted by Kali on October 14, 1996 at 12:50:13:
: I only know the Al Gore version of the macarena.
: Cheryl
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Cheryl,
How does he do it?
- K
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Posted by Kali on October 14, 1996 at 12:57:18:
: : So, what got you hooked?
: : - K
:
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: I think it's the way Austen portrays ordinary people in the
: pursuit of romance and other pursuits in the victorian-era,
: and of course, her ability to write a good book.
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I'm with you right up until the Victorian part. JA is anything but a Victorian writer.
- K
Posted by Steve on October 14, 1996 at 12:59:39:
Lilian intoned:
: Or maybe (since I am more than half your age) I have not lived long enough or (as Caroline Bingley says) I have not had the opportunity of moving in society. (hmmm, by the way, my society is rather small.. only 3 million people live in my city) :)
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Upon reading Ms. Lilian's parting comment, I felt a twinge of quadragenarian (if that's a word) regret that I could indeed be intelligently discoursing with someone half my own age.
But upon further review, I admit to perplexedness at Ms. Lilian's phrase "since I am *more than half* your age".
Hmmmm.
I'm 42. Half my age is 21. More than half more age is anything more than 21. Hmm. I guess that means that I'm more than half my own age! (Shazaam, Sgt. Carter!) So Ms. Lilian could actually be *way* over half my age and even more elderly than me.
However, I must leave open the possibility that Ms. Lilian might have intended that she was actually *less* than half my age, from which a reasonable person might infer she was under 21. [See twinge described above.]
Winking regards,
Steve
Posted by Laura M on October 14, 1996 at 13:00:54:
Kali, you are very lucky to come from a normal family, I didn't think they were around anymore. I think for the time 1813, the Bennets are dysfunctional, but they seemed quite normal to me. No depression, suicidal thoughts, mania, only Mrs Bennet talks about here nerves and that is what I call hypochondria. So hats off to you Kali, would your family like to adopt a dysfunctional single mom and her beautiful almost 6 (10/27/96) daughter? Only joking. Laura
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Posted by Amy on October 14, 1996 at 13:10:32:
: : I only know the Al Gore version of the macarena.
: : Cheryl
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: Cheryl,
: How does he do it?
: - K
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I am assuming it was danced at the convention, but I cna't imagine the act being nearly so inspiring as the '92 convention when they played, "Don't Stop Thinking About Tomorrow." To me, that moment in time was a significant demarcation. Boomers running countries. Far cry from the Reagans who objected to the Beach Boys playing on the Mall on the 4th of July. I can barely imagine many things more American.
I do not wish to see Gore doing the M. Poor fellow could loosen up I have to believe, swivel a little -- can't everyone if they truly want to? He just won't.
Amy
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Posted by Katherine on October 14, 1996 at 13:22:08:
: Amy, I, too, do not receive the wonderful History Channel, which could be a good thing because my cable bill would probably be way too high. But I watched the wonderful Masterpiece Theater's version of MOLL FLANDERS, and boy was I shocked at what I saw. NUDITY!!! on PBS. Alex Kingston (AKA Mrs Ralph Fiennes) is a beautiful woman so she has every right to show what she has. But it shocked me all the same. It was fabu, can't wait to see the conclusion tonite. Laura
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Laura M,
I watched it too and would reccomend it. It's adapted by our friend Mr. Davies and he does a wonderful job. (I remember the book as being dreadful to read) I was snorting like Lydia. There is *so* much nudity and sex in it I was suprised Colin Firth WASN'T involved !!
Katherine
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Posted by Donna on October 14, 1996 at 13:28:11:
I think JA must have known a few Mr.Collin's in her lifetime
The conversation at the dinner table seem like something a nerdy
fellow would admit to in mix company.
ciao Donna
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Posted by Laura M on October 14, 1996 at 13:42:07:
K- My television would have exploded had Colin Firth been on. Its bad enough its an tv, but was MOLL FLANDERS steamy or what. That Roland guy was adorable. Laura
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Posted by Amy on October 14, 1996 at 13:42:35:
HC,
Are you at the conference?
Anything of interest there to our subculture?
I must know. Have you confided to the Austen-L ladies about your correspondence with us and about your emerging cult hero status here?
Amy
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Posted by Joe on October 14, 1996 at 13:58:54:
I laughed, I cried!!!
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Posted by Laura M on October 14, 1996 at 14:05:41:
Joe, about what?
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