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Posted by Cheryl on October 09, 1996 at 14:01:03:
Now that we have had our fun abusing the Bingley sisters, let us turn to the truly superior sisters, namely Jane and Lizzy.
There are several exchanges between the two in this first week that are very lovely, and make me quite envious (as one who grew up with four brothers and no sisters!) The first private sister moment comes in their bedroom (as do many of these moments) when they discuss their desires for love and marriage. I like that they wish to hold out for true love as they "have daily proof" of the alternative. The affection confidence these two share is obvious and a delight.
The second is their own Assembly Ball post-mortum where Jane is happy and optimistic and Lizzy sardonic and playful- their personalities complement each other very well.
And lastly the deep concern Lizzy has and the real relief of Jane when Lizzy comes to Netherfield very evident. It never occurred to Mrs. Bennet to check on Jane, she was just happy to know that Jane was in Bingley's house, but Lizzy was "quite determined" to go to her sister care for her.
Cheryl
PS to Amy: The comments window on the main home page does not wrap around, were you going to change this one too, or are you waiting to see if the other works?
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Posted by Brigid on October 09, 1996 at 14:07:47:
: : : : : Do you know how they broke it off? I only know that they
: : : : : broke up after the filming of P&P2. I also know that CF was
: : : : : dating some Italian actress, Livia, shortly afterwards.
: : : : : Has Jennifer Ehle dated anyone else after they broke up?
: : : : : Just curious.
: : : : : Paola
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: : : : From what I have read, Colin Firth seems to leave a lot of very upset ladies in his wake.
: : : : Ann
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: : : He sem to have a great fondness for costars, but only as long as they
: : : are his costar.
: : : Mich
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: : I can't explain why, but I really do feel sorry for Jennifer Ehle. I understand that she was very much hurt regarding their break up and too upset to even comment on it.
: : On the other hand, Colin Firth seems to have got over it quite quickly.
: : But then, I guess it's wrong to judge when one is unaware of the particulars.
: : Paola
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: I think your right, she did seem very hurt by the whole thing. Poor girl she must have fell in love with Darcy.
: M
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He is also 10 years older than she. Perhaps she is not as used to falling in love with costars and then moving on.
Posted by Cheryl on October 09, 1996 at 14:10:57:
I think I can safely speak for the vast majority here when I say that it is Darcy that we are in love with and not Colin Firth.
Cheryl
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Posted by Donna on October 09, 1996 at 14:13:34:
: : However, any lines longer than the one above still scroll off the screen at the right.
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: Hmm. Who else has this problem. Mine wraps and I thought everybody's did. There is a control I could put in on my end and I would happy to learn it and do it if this turns out to be a widespread problem. Or maybe even if it isn't if it wouldn't mess up everybody else.
: Amy
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Posted by Brigid on October 09, 1996 at 14:15:00:
: : : However, any lines longer than the one above still scroll off the screen at the right.
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: : Hmm. Who else has this problem. Mine wraps and I thought everybody's did. There is a control I could put in on my end and I would happy to learn it and do it if this turns out to be a widespread problem. Or maybe even if it isn't if it wouldn't mess up everybody else.
: : Amy
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: The odd thing is that everywhere except the "Comments" window, things stay wrapped inside the window. This is the only place where it doesn't, so I can't figure out what setting I might need to twiddle with. (This is using Netscape for Mac, either 2.0.2 or 3.0)
: Joan, too
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Joan, too this is a bit of a side question. I just hooked up netsape navigator at home (on a Mac also) and whenever I try to post a followup message on this board it bounces me out. Did/do you ever have a similar problem? I am very new to all of this so I am learning by trial and error.
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Posted by Cheryl on October 09, 1996 at 14:18:27:
: In P&P2 we have both Lizzy and Jane getting married on the same day and in the same church.
: Does this occur in the book? If not, who gets married first? Jane?
: And, where women supposed to be informed in what happened on their wedding night? Or did they approach their wedding night completely ignorant?
: Just curious.
: Paola
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The book does not explicitly state it was a double wedding, but the chronology notes in the back of my edition does say it was a double wedding taking place shortly before Christmas.
As to the marital duties speech, of course Jane Austen would not dream of mentioning such a thing! One assumes the custom of the time was that the mother would have a "little chat" with her daughter, but I agree that having to listen to Mrs. Bennet perform such a task would be odious indeed!
Cheryl
Posted by Cheryl on October 09, 1996 at 14:25:00:
All this Anne of Green Gables talk has prompted me to get out my tapes and begin watching again. It has been years, but I do so like Anne, her imagination, optimism, and loving nature are a delight.
Cheryl
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Posted by Joan, too on October 09, 1996 at 14:56:09:
: Joan, too this is a bit of a side question. I just hooked up netsape navigator at home (on a Mac also) and whenever I try to post a followup message on this board it bounces me out. Did/do you ever have a similar problem? I am very new to all of this so I am learning by trial and error.
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Brigid, could you be more specific about what "bounces me out" means? I haven't had any problem in posting follow-ups - maybe there's something in your settings that's not quite right, but need more specific description of the "symptom".
Joan, too
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Posted by Joan, too on October 09, 1996 at 15:06:07:
: The example of this which bothers me the most is Darcy's line, "No one admitted to the priviledge of hearing you could find anything wanting." It's evident that this line ws re-dubbed - the pitch doesn't quite match, and there is less "hollowness" in the room than in the part of that speech that comes immediately before and after this line.
: Joan, too
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: Joan, Too! I thought I was the only one who heard that!!!
: Johanna
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Having wrestled with some sound editing and re-dubbing myself, I am excesesively attentive to all these things. ;-)
Joan, too
Posted by Lorraine on October 09, 1996 at 15:19:11:
I think Darcy and Lizzy would spend the wedding night at Netherfield with
Jane and Bingley (and WITHOUT the Bingley sisters, I hope!) or go on to
Darcy's house in London - I don't think Mereton was far from London.
Lorraine
Posted by Carolyn on October 09, 1996 at 15:19:48:
: : Why do you blame the wives for the mens bad habits. Mr. Hurst/Mrs.Hurst nobody drives you to drink that a personal choice.
: : What is Mr. Hurst responsibilty to his wife? Looks like to me
: : he is as much to blame for her faults. Mrs. Bennet never ever speaks ill of her husband and takes constant teasing.
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: All I have to say is, you get what you settle for. Mrs. Hurst married a man "of more fashion than fortune," I believe is what Austen terms Mr. Hurst. Mrs. Hurst wasn't going to change him, but who really says she wants to?
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JA also mentioned that Mr. Hurst was fond of only three things, cards, drink and shooting (I think, I don't have the book handy). I think the actor playing Mr. Hurst just wanted his character to be remembered. I especially like when he tries to sneak out the room before Mrs. B enters.
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