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Posted by Mich on October 08, 1996 at 22:49:06:
: Poor Kitty!! Everyone always picks on her, especially Mrs. Bennet who makes Kitty cry. Accusing Kitty's coughing for the pain of her "poor nerves!" As if Kitty could help her coughing. I feel sorry for Kitty and I think people should show more respect toward her even if she is a little be silly and foolish sometimes.
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I would imagine that the lost of her younger sister and her own maturity
earned her a great deal more respect.
You are right about her being picked on.
Mich
Posted by Paola on October 08, 1996 at 22:53:19:
: : Can't you just imagine a tete a tete with Mrs Bennet and Darcy! Wedding night at longbourne-what a scary thought!
: : I thought, in the movie at least, since they were going away in a carriage and leaving the Bennets behind, they were going to Pemberly, but it does seem too far away.
: : Marsha
:
Wedding night at Longbourn would have definitely been out of the question. Someone suggested staying over
at the house of some friends on the way to Pemberley and I really do think that
this is probably the best alternative.
Darcy would have died at Pemberley! I can just picture Mrs. Bennet knocking on their door every few minutes
to enquire as to enquire as to how they were doing.
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Posted by Paola on October 08, 1996 at 22:54:37:
: : : Can't you just imagine a tete a tete with Mrs Bennet and Darcy! Wedding night at longbourne-what a scary thought!
: : : I thought, in the movie at least, since they were going away in a carriage and leaving the Bennets behind, they were going to Pemberly, but it does seem too far away.
: : : Marsha
: :
: Wedding night at Longbourn would have definitely been out of the question. Someone suggested staying over
: at the house of some friends on the way to Pemberley and I really do think that
: this is probably the best alternative.
: Darcy would have died at Pemberley! I can just picture Mrs. Bennet knocking on their door every few minutes
: to enquire as to how they were doing.
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Posted by Amy on October 08, 1996 at 22:59:45:
: : Well I canīt say I had any success in my editing efforts, first I tried to cut out the part I would like to quote and then I pasted it
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Ann2, don't worry about it. Myself, I don't past anything. I just scroll down til I see something I want to comment on, comment on it. Scoll down more, deleting stuff I don't wish to refer to, and like that.
Posted by Ann on October 08, 1996 at 23:00:20:
: Cheryl
I believe longbourn is about 25 miles from London. Since Darcy said that
twice that distance (to Kent) was scarcely half a day's journey, I belive
the house in town is a definite possibility. I always figured they would not
wish to impose on Bingley and Jane, nor would they wish to spend the night
in some inn somewhere, so my vote is for London. (But what do Georgiana and
Fitzwilliam do?)
Ann
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Posted by Amy on October 08, 1996 at 23:02:00:
in my browser, the "Comments" window is so small that I almost never do my editing in there - it requires scrolling ___________________
Joan, I made the fields a little wider. Does it help at all? Sorry I can't do anything about the type size.
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Posted by Marsha on October 08, 1996 at 23:04:50:
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: It's not so much wanting to hurt Lydia -- I just think that she is a perfect
: example of 'spare the rod and spoil the child'. I know that in the book, once
: she is away from Lydia's influence and more under that of Lizzy, Kitty becomes
: a more worthwhile person.
: Anne
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Yes, but Kitty was not as ungovernable as Lydia. (Though if maybe someone taught
Lydia earlier?...) But then we would have lost half the fun!
Marsha
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Posted by Amy on October 08, 1996 at 23:05:37:
my vote is for London. (But what do Georgiana and
: Fitzwilliam do?)
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Ann,
Does the Colonel stay at the Darcy house when in town? Makes sense but I don't remember that part. As I am rereading -- first time since my addiction to the series took hold -- I realize I have pushed a lot of the real details into the darkness.
Amy
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Posted by Ann on October 08, 1996 at 23:09:52:
: One the other hand, she knows that Darcy "cannot bear to hear George Wickham mentioned" [as she
: tells Elizabeth at the Netherfield ball] and still she brings up the subject in Darcy's presence. Her jealousy
: gets the better of her consideration, in this case, since she hopes to remind Darcy of Elizabeth's partiality
: to Wickham and the Bennet girls (Lydia & Kitty) silliness w/ all of the officers.
: kathleen
In the text she does not mention George Wickham at all, only the regiment.
Ann
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Posted by Ann on October 08, 1996 at 23:20:45:
: I know many families in which the oldest get not only more photographs taken...
: Amy
:
Tell me about it!!!!
I am the youngest of three. My brother and my sister both had several of
their pictures hanging on the stairs; the ONLY picture of me was in the
laundry room in the basement!!! Then for one of my Mom's birthdays I borrowed a
hideously ornate picture frame from a friend, put the picture from the
laundry room in it, and hung it over the mantle. After that my mom got the
hint!
Ann
Posted by Joan, too on October 08, 1996 at 23:22:58:
: in my browser, the "Comments" window is so small that I almost never do my editing in there - it requires scrolling ___________________
: Joan, I made the fields a little wider. Does it help at all? Sorry I can't do anything about the type size.
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Ah! this is indeed wider (but hopefully not too wide for those with small screens?)
However, any lines longer than the one above still scroll off the screen at the right. I don't know exactly which things are under the control of the browser and which of the server, but if there were any way to make the text within this window stay wrapped inside it, that would be wonderful!
Joan, too
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Posted by Ann on October 08, 1996 at 23:26:19:
: Yes. Thank you for reminding me that she isn't real. We all forget, don't we?
: Amy
Just keep repeating to youself: this isn't real...this isn't real...this isn't real...
Ann
Posted by Joan, too on October 08, 1996 at 23:27:13:
Yes, but Kitty was not as ungovernable as Lydia. (Though if maybe someone taught
: Lydia earlier?...) But then we would have lost half the fun!
: Marsha
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True, true - we must all keep in mind that the whole of this plot turns on the intricate relationships among all of these characters, and if any of them were significantly different, it would end up altering the plot!
Joan, too
Posted by Joan, too on October 08, 1996 at 23:30:19:
: Does the Colonel stay at the Darcy house when in town? Makes sense but I don't remember that part. As I am rereading -- first time since my addiction to the series took hold -- I realize I have pushed a lot of the real details into the darkness.
: Amy
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Or does the Colonel stay at the Earl's estate, and if so, how far is that from Meryton, and might that not be a possibility for an interim stay on the way to Pemberley?
Joan, too
Posted by Ann on October 08, 1996 at 23:30:57:
: Do you know how they broke it off? I only know that they
: broke up after the filming of P&P2. I also know that CF was
: dating some Italian actress, Livia, shortly afterwards.
: Has Jennifer Ehle dated anyone else after they broke up?
: Just curious.
: Paola
From what I have read, Colin Firth seems to leave a lot of very upset ladies in his wake.
Ann
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Posted by Ann on October 08, 1996 at 23:32:54:
: (But what do Georgiana and Fitzwilliam do?)
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: Ann,
: Does the Colonel stay at the Darcy house when in town? Makes sense but I don't remember that part. As I am rereading -- first time since my addiction to the series took hold -- I realize I have pushed a lot of the real details into the darkness.
: Amy
My question was more based on the idea that Darcy and Elizabeth would want to be alone ;).
Ann
Posted by Cheryl on October 09, 1996 at 00:07:27:
: Joan, I made the fields a little wider. Does it help at all? Sorry I can't do anything about the type size.
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I don't like the wider comments window, it continues right off my screen and makes rereading my comments before I send them off much harder. If the new size doesn't significantly help others, can we have the old ones back? I had just gotton good and comfy with them! (Yes, I'm an old dog who has difficulty learning new tricks!)
Cheryl
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Posted by Arnessa on October 09, 1996 at 00:26:36:
: : Charlotte on falling in love:
: : "We can all begin freely--a slight preference is natural enough:
: : but there are very few of us who have heart enough to be really
: : in love without encouragement."
: : Ann
:
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: I think that Lizzy at some uncouncious level was attracted to
: Darcy even if she disliked him It almost seem like this
: uncounsous attraction can have fueled her anger at him
: Anna-Karin
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Yes, I agree. In P&P2, I think they capture Lizzy's ambivalance perfectly in the billiards room scene at Netherfield. When she walks in and finds Darcy alone, she is left speechless (and so is he.) She has none of her usual defenses at the ready. She isn't even able to say something witty and excuse herself. She just looks at him... and what a look! There's confusion, fear, and maybe even a little bit of challenge in that look. This is obviously territory that Lizzy's never traveled before. You get the feeling Darcy's the first to inspire this much emotion in her. Ehle makes Lizzy look vulnerable for once. It was well done. Reading the book, one can only speculate about how long Lizzy has really loved Darcy. In the series, you get the feeling it's pretty much from Day 1.
Firth's look in the billiards room is great too. There's surprise. Then, it's like he wants to ask her to stay but is afraid to or can't think of an excuse to. Both seem to realize instantly as their eyes meet that something extraordinary has happened to them.
-Arnessa
Posted by Joan, too on October 09, 1996 at 00:32:10:
: I don't like the wider comments window, it continues right off my screen and makes rereading my comments before I send them off much harder. If the new size doesn't significantly help others, can we have the old ones back? I had just gotton good and comfy with them! (Yes, I'm an old dog who has difficulty learning new tricks!)
: Cheryl
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I was afraid that might be the case - and the extra width is really only a tiny help in a bigger screen. Does anyone's browser wrap the text inside the "Comments" window? If so, do you know how you set it to do that?
Joan, too
Posted by Arnessa on October 09, 1996 at 00:35:20:
: Marsha:
: 1st:
: Noble Patroness. Arnessa wrote the second step before she and I and everyone else lost interest in the project. Refers to JA.
: About the Australian page
: : Does anyone know what is the matter with "Ostentatious Jane Jane Austen page" I tried to load it a couple of times, both from the browser, and from within liks of P&P, but the only message I would get is that it is forbidden
: I talked to the webmaster who says the server is being upgraded and was given some alternate URLS. Since they did not work for me either I won't pass them along. I will leave in the bad link for now.
: Our opinion is being sought about content for the page. Can anyone think of an angle that has not been covered on the web?
: Amy
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Yes, I forgot about the steps! With the group enlarging rapidly as it is, I think we definitely need steps!!! I will undertake to think up some more before the week is out.
-Arnessa
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