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Posted by Stefanie on October 03, 1996 at 13:40:24:
: I thought Mr. Collins was going to fancy Mary, considering the fact that they both highly recommended "condescention" and thought along the same lines. But Mr. Collins wanted a prettier face, i believe and therefore moved his love to Jane then Lizzy. In fact, in some respects, Charlotte was a lot better for Collins than Mary....
: - Maureen
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I think that Mary and Mr. Collins wqould have been perfect for each other. At leats, I don't think that Mary would have been as unhappy in her marriage to him as Charlotte turned out to be.
Stefanie
Posted by Susan on October 03, 1996 at 13:50:07:
Seriously, how much are your online bills running and what provider do you use?
: Mary
I'm very lucky. My local library offers online service for free. But you are only alloted a fews hours per day and sometimes it's difficult to log on because the line is busy. You should check in your area to see if your library offers a simular sevice.
Susan
Posted by Amy on October 03, 1996 at 13:50:28:
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: I'm really sorry about not contributing.
Don't worry about it.
>>>hooked up
: at home for his work. But he'll faint onto the nearest sopha when he sees the bills if I indulge my addiction at home! Seriously, how much are your online
: bills running and what provider do you use?
Flat rate's the only way to go. My blessed local ISP should charge me for more than just a personal GUI account for this web site has a couple hundred documents at any one time and my nap advocacy site that occasionally chokes the system when it gets a lot of publicity.
I suppose if I ever make any money from the web, I will get a business account and make up for it all. Cross your fingers for me. I am currently pitching a big talk radio station in a major market on a pet idea of mine: moderating a bulletin board somewhat like this, except it's for people who try to phone in to the talk shows and can't get on the air.
Amy
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Posted by Stefanie on October 03, 1996 at 14:01:41:
: I thought that Adrian Lukis was poorly cast as Wickham. Wickham is meant to be extremely attractive - in the book Mrs Gardiner says that Darcy does not have Wickham's countenance (which natually encompasses more than looks). I felt that if a better looking actor had been cast it would have made Elizabeth's attraction to him more credible (ie blinded by his looks).
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I agree.
Stefanie
Posted by Ann on October 03, 1996 at 14:17:51:
: I'm really sorry about not contributing. I was one of the people who voted for "Enchanted April" and then I forgot to rent it over the weekend. (Duh!) Also,
: I'm only online at work, so I don't always get to all of the posts, which makes me hesitant to put in my .02 worth. My husband's supposed to get us hooked up
: at home for his work. But he'll faint onto the nearest sopha when he sees the bills if I indulge my addiction at home! Seriously, how much are your online
: bills running and what provider do you use?
: Mary
I have an account through the alumni association of the U of MN.
It runs $180 a year for 50 hours a month. (I nearly ran out
of quota last month because of this board!!)
Check out the U's in your area, I know the UMN isn't the
only U to offer access to its alums and maybe to
non-alums as well.
Some providers (I would think most) also have web sites. I
have found some for the Twin Cities through Yahoo
(www.yahoo.com).
Ann
Posted by Brigid on October 03, 1996 at 14:27:51:
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: : I was just watching the 1st dinner scene with Mr. Collins last night and it was so funny. I loved the fact that Lizzie had to put her napkin up to her face to hide her laughing. But poor Mary seemed to like him. Did anyone else see that?
: Oh yes, Mary's admiration is fairly obvious in this production, although one does not get that opinion from the book. But while her temperment seems exactly suited for Mr. Collins, I fear that she is not pretty or accomplished enough to be the wife of the man who enjoys the peculiar condesention of such a noble patroness as Lady Catherine de Bourgh.
: Cheryl
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Undoubtedly. If Lady Catherine didn't think Lizzie played well then what would she have thought of Mary?
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Posted by Lori T. on October 03, 1996 at 14:55:19:
How did you find your copy of Shades? I'm having no luck
Posted by The Mysterious H.C. on October 03, 1996 at 15:13:40:
Regarding the ideas for sequels, etc., -- the file linked to below contains a lot of joking(?) ideas for updatings of Jane Austen novels (see earlier in the file for other Austen character-related jokes)
Link:
Posted by Cheryl on October 03, 1996 at 15:14:56:
: I'm only online at work, so I don't always get to all of the posts, which makes me hesitant to put in my .02 worth. My husband's supposed to get us hooked up
: at home for his work. But he'll faint onto the nearest sopha when he sees the bills if I indulge my addiction at home! Seriously, how much are your online
: bills running and what provider do you use?
: Mary
I am with Netcom and I really like it. I pay a flat fee of $19.95 a month for unlimited hours. If you'd like more info, e-mail me and I'll pass it along.
Cheryl
clsneed@ix.netcom.com
Posted by Mary on October 03, 1996 at 15:21:42:
:
: : Mr. Collins dances so incredibly chicken-like. Did anybody notice?
: : Anyone interested in a Mr. Collins fan club? I fell in love with his dancing the moment I saw it!
: : It was so... so... interesting. Just look at how he swept Lizzy off her feet, or rather, bumped her off her feet!
: : "Other way Mr.Collins!" Responses anyone?
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: Zack,
: Check out Lisa's description the Netherfield Ball Play-by-Play. Link below.
: You might be interested in a new scholarly book almost all about Mr Collins. I can't remember the particlulars, but I do know I could locate them if you are interested.
: I love Austen's jerks. Phooney on those who say Mrs Bennet and Mr Collins were played over the top in this production. Yes, make me cringe and shudder, please, because I love it.
:
: Amy
:
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I love that moment when he bumps into one of the other dancers. His reaction (and hers) are priceless.
Cheers for the jerks!
Mary
P.S. I read Lisa's description of the Netherfield Ball. Very interesting. She saw things I don't think I ever would have noticed. Very worthwhile reading.
Posted by Mary on October 03, 1996 at 15:42:40:
: : What did Lizzie mean when she said to Dracy during thier dance and Netherfield:
: : "I have seen a great similarity in the turn of our minds.
: : We are each of an unsocial, tacturn disposition, unwilling to speak, unless
: : we expect to say something that will amaze the whole room, and be handed down
: : to posterity with all the eclat of a proverb."
: : I'm never quite sure
: : Mich
:
: Lizzy is not talking about herself at all. She is basically
: stating her opinion of him, and in doing so she is not too
: subtly insulting him, per her later remarks to Darcy (not in
: the movie):
: "...my behavior to you was at least always bordering on the
: uncivil, and I never spoke to you without rather wishing to
: give you pain than not."
: Ann
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I agree that Lizzy is basically teasing Darcy here, but I think
there is some truth to what she says. She certainly likes to
say things that "amaze the whole room," as she is always saying
things that shock Bingley's sisters or Lady Catherine.
Mary
Posted by Dana Tamar on October 03, 1996 at 15:43:03:
Can Jeniffer Ehle really play the piano and sing as shown in some scenes, or is it just a playback?
On one hand she plays quite ill, as described in the book, on the other hand: is there anything Jeniffer Ehle can't do?
Dana & Tamar
P.S. Does anybody (Amy??) why our names and bios do not longer exist on the bios list?
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Posted by Mary on October 03, 1996 at 15:53:53:
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: Flat rate's the only way to go. My blessed local ISP should charge me for more than just a personal GUI account for this web site has a couple hundred documents at any one time and my nap advocacy site that occasionally chokes the system when it gets a lot of publicity.
: I suppose if I ever make any money from the web, I will get a business account and make up for it all. Cross your fingers for me. I am currently pitching a big talk radio station in a major market on a pet idea of mine: moderating a bulletin board somewhat like this, except it's for people who try to phone in to the talk shows and can't get on the air.
: Amy
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That's a very good idea. Then the talk show hosts could read the posts they agreed with on air or make fun of the ones they thought were stupid. Tom and Ray of Car Talk would love it. (They already have a website that includes their mail *gems*.)
I agree with the flat rate idea, too.
Mary
Posted by kathleen on October 03, 1996 at 16:05:23:
: : :
: : : Baseball?? Who cares about baseball?
: : : Go Green Bay!
: : : The Pack is back!!
: : : This is the year of the cheese!!!
: : : Ann (a proud cheese-head)
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: : Football indeed -- but my Cornhuskers have slipped in the
: : college rankings.
: : kathleen (a Nebraskan currently located in western Maryland)
:
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: I'm in Dallas (home of Presidential Assasins).
: AAACCCKK!! I thought this was the last place I'd run into
: sports talk. And as if the Cowboys weren't bad enough, now
: it looks like the Rangers may actually make it to the world
: series.
: Back to Darcy, pa-lease!
: (Only half serious)
: Mary
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I always return to Darcy & Lizzie, even after a sports break. But that's the point, isn't
it -- that other interests can only occupy us for a little time, and then we all return.
kathleen
Posted by Cheryl on October 03, 1996 at 16:35:16:
: Can Jeniffer Ehle really play the piano and sing as shown in some scenes, or is it just a playback?
: On one hand she plays quite ill, as described in the book, on the other hand: is there anything Jeniffer Ehle can't do?
: Dana & Tamar
Carl Davis, the composer for P&P2, played all the pianoforte music in the production. He speaks in The Making of P&P of having to play in different styles and with varying degrees of compentency depending on which character is playing. The book also mentioned that the women who play Georgiana and Mary are very good pianists and so were able to "fake it" fairly easily. The actresses wore hidden earpieces through which the music was piped and they "finger synced" so to speak, on a silent piano.
Cheryl
Posted by Amy on October 03, 1996 at 17:12:54:
(Amy??) why our names and bios do not longer exist on the bios list?
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Thanks for letting me know. Should work now.
Ehle did go to school at Interlochen in the northern part of Michigan's lower penninsula. The school and camp is known for its music, but I don't know what she studied there. I don't know what else you can study there, but maybe theatre.
Amy
Posted by Sarah on October 03, 1996 at 17:28:05:
And what about Mrs. B?! As bad as she wanted to get her daughters married off, I think she would have FREAKED if it had been Mary first!
Sarah
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Posted by Amy on October 03, 1996 at 17:37:57:
: And what about Mrs. B?! As bad as she wanted to get her daughters married off, I think she would have FREAKED if it had been Mary first!
: Sarah
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Oooh. Much as I love to cringe, I don't know if I could bear hearing Steadman do that little shrieky laughy gloat over this triumph, as when she said "Exceed their income!" (Somebody here mentioned this remark in her bio under "Scene where you are embarrassed")
I would definately ask Lizzy to close the door -- and pad it with a quilt or two for insurance.
Amy
Amy
Posted by DonnaT on October 03, 1996 at 18:01:38:
I don't know if this has been discussed, but it has always seemed odd to me that Wickham and Lydia's hurry-up wedding in Cheapside would not have been presided over by the same minister as the Double weddings in Meryton, also the location looks the same. Any feedback?
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