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Posted by Barbara on October 03, 1996 at 11:05:18:
: : "A month in the country" will be playing on the new Sundance channel Oct 1 9:30am, 8:30pm Oct 2, 6:30am PST. On some cables and satlellite dishes. If someday you want to review this film.
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: Don't get the Sundance channel (no dish yet) but found a video
: store with A Month in the Country in a catalog so have ordered
: it. Should find out in a week or two if really possible.
: Anne
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I was able to rent this movie. It's a beautiful film, one of my favorites and Colin Firth is absolutely outstanding in this role! And even though his hair is extermely short and much lighter than in P&P2 (he also has a mustache), he's still mesmerizing. The camera does indeed love him - he's gorgeous!
Posted by The Mysterious H.C. on October 03, 1996 at 11:07:28:
: IN THE BOOK, ALL THESE PEOPLE DO IS DANCE!
My dear, there are exactly three occasions on which dancing is mentioned as having occurred, in 15 months of novel time.
AND THEY ALWAYS CONVIENTLY
: MEET THE OTHER PEOPLE IN THE BOOK. DO THEY FOLLOW EACH OTHER!?!
Why yes, there are some coincidences in the book. Follow the link below for some discussion. Do you have anything to add to this discusssion?
AND HOW
: DO THEY GET THE MONEY TO PRANCE ABOUT THE COUNTRYSIDE? THEY ALL CAN'T INHERIT FROM
: RICH RELATIVES!
No indeed:
``Mr. and Mrs. Collins have a have a
comfortable income, but not oone which will allow of frequent
journeys''
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Posted by Amy on October 03, 1996 at 11:16:15:
: Mr. Collins dances so incredibly chicken-like. Did anybody notice?
: Anyone interested in a Mr. Collins fan club? I fell in love with his dancing the moment I saw it!
: It was so... so... interesting. Just look at how he swept Lizzy off her feet, or rather, bumped her off her feet!
: "Other way Mr.Collins!" Responses anyone?
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Zack,
Check out Lisa's description the Netherfield Ball Play-by-Play. Link below.
You might be interested in a new scholarly book almost all about Mr Collins. I can't remember the particlulars, but I do know I could locate them if you are interested.
I love Austen's jerks. Phooney on those who say Mrs Bennet and Mr Collins were played over the top in this production. Yes, make me cringe and shudder, please, because I love it.
Amy
Link:
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Posted by Amy on October 03, 1996 at 11:21:54:
Thanks. I appreciate it when you guys step in to take care of some of these things.
Amy
Posted by Marie on October 03, 1996 at 11:31:48:
: : I was sorry that P&P2 left out one of my personal favorites of Mr. Bennet's lines: "If any young men come for Mary or Kitty, send them in, for I am quite at leisure."
: My mother agrees with you - this is her favorite line, as well.
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The other thing left out by Davies, which is very short but which does away with much of the subtlety, is the end of Mr. Bennet's line: "He is the kind of man, indeed, to whom I should never dare refuse anything." In the book, it reads: "...never dare refuse anything which he condescended to ask." What a difference!
(I've wanted to respond to so many other postings, recently, but haven't even had the time to read this BB daily, let alone post a response. Thanks to the rest of you for carrying on the discussion.)
Posted by Ann on October 03, 1996 at 11:32:42:
To quote a different author:
Cordelia:
Unhappy that I am, I cannot heave
My heart into my mouth: I love you majesty
According to my bond; nor more nor less....
Good my lord,
You have begot me, bred me, loved me: I
Return those duties back as are right fit,
Obey you, love you, and most honour you.
Why have my sister's husbands, if they say
They love you all? Haply, when I shall wed,
That lord whose hand must take my plight shall carry
Half my love with him, half my care and duty:
Sure, I shall never marry like my sisters,
To love my father all.
--Billy Boy
Ann
Posted by little ann on October 03, 1996 at 11:43:01:
: : What did Lizzie mean when she said to Dracy during thier dance and Netherfield:
: : "I have seen a great similarity in the turn of our minds.
: : We are each of an unsocial, tacturn disposition, unwilling to speak, unless
: : we expect to say something that will amaze the whole room, and be handed down
: : to posterity with all the eclat of a proverb."
: : I'm never quite sure
: : Mich
Lizzy is not talking about herself at all. She is basically
stating her opinion of him, and in doing so she is not too
subtly insulting him, per her later remarks to Darcy (not in
the movie):
"...my behavior to you was at least always bordering on the
uncivil, and I never spoke to you without rather wishing to
give you pain than not."
Ann
Posted by Annie on October 03, 1996 at 11:57:33:
I have to say that Mr. Collins is probably my favorite "Jerk" in Jane Austen's novels. I especially thought that the actor who played him in P&P2 was fantastic. Even though I have seen the movie a number of times, I still laugh every time I hear him gushing over Lady Catherine de Bourgh in his first letter to Mr. Bennet.
It's a classic!
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Posted by Ann on October 03, 1996 at 12:12:03:
: What did Lizzie mean when she said to Dracy during thier dance and Netherfield:
: "I have seen a great similarity in the turn of our minds.
: We are each of an unsocial, tacturn disposition, unwilling to speak, unless
: we expect to say something that will amaze the whole room, and be handed down
: to posterity with all the eclat of a proverb."
: I'm never quite sure
: Mich
Lizzy is not talking about herself at all. She is basically
stating her opinion of him, and in doing so she is not too
subtly insulting him, per her later remarks to Darcy (not in
the movie):
"...my behavior to you was at least always bordering on the
uncivil, and I never spoke to you without rather wishing to
give you pain than not."
Ann
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Posted by Brigid on October 03, 1996 at 12:13:18:
: I have to say that Mr. Collins is probably my favorite "Jerk" in Jane Austen's novels. I especially thought that the actor who played him in P&P2 was fantastic. Even though I have seen the movie a number of times, I still laugh every time I hear him gushing over Lady Catherine de Bourgh in his first letter to Mr. Bennet.
: It's a classic!
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I was just watching the 1st dinner scene with Mr. Collins last night and it was so funny. I loved the fact that Lizzie had to put her napkin up to her face to hide her laughing. But poor Mary seemed to like him. Did anyone else see that?
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Posted by Mary on October 03, 1996 at 12:22:10:
: :
: : Baseball?? Who cares about baseball?
: : Go Green Bay!
: : The Pack is back!!
: : This is the year of the cheese!!!
: : Ann (a proud cheese-head)
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: Football indeed -- but my Cornhuskers have slipped in the
: college rankings.
: kathleen (a Nebraskan currently located in western Maryland)
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I'm in Dallas (home of Presidential Assasins).
AAACCCKK!! I thought this was the last place I'd run into
sports talk. And as if the Cowboys weren't bad enough, now
it looks like the Rangers may actually make it to the world
series.
Back to Darcy, pa-lease!
(Only half serious)
Mary
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Posted by Cheryl on October 03, 1996 at 12:24:13:
: I was just watching the 1st dinner scene with Mr. Collins last night and it was so funny. I loved the fact that Lizzie had to put her napkin up to her face to hide her laughing. But poor Mary seemed to like him. Did anyone else see that?
Oh yes, Mary's admiration is fairly obvious in this production, although one does not get that opinion from the book. But while her temperment seems exactly suited for Mr. Collins, I fear that she is not pretty or accomplished enough to be the wife of the man who enjoys the peculiar condesention of such a noble patroness as Lady Catherine de Bourgh.
Cheryl
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Posted by Maureen on October 03, 1996 at 12:26:41:
: : I have to say that Mr. Collins is probably my favorite "Jerk" in Jane Austen's novels. I especially thought that the actor who played him in P&P2 was fantastic. Even though I have seen the movie a number of times, I still laugh every time I hear him gushing over Lady Catherine de Bourgh in his first letter to Mr. Bennet.
: : It's a classic!
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: I was just watching the 1st dinner scene with Mr. Collins last night and it was so funny. I loved the fact that Lizzie had to put her napkin up to her face to hide her laughing. But poor Mary seemed to like him. Did anyone else see that?
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I thought Mr. Collins was going to fancy Mary, considering the fact that they both highly recommended "condescention" and thought along the same lines. But Mr. Collins wanted a prettier face, i believe and therefore moved his love to Jane then Lizzy. In fact, in some respects, Charlotte was a lot better for Collins than Mary....
- Maureen
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Posted by Annie on October 03, 1996 at 13:15:23:
: : I have to say that Mr. Collins is probably my favorite "Jerk" in Jane Austen's novels. I especially thought that the actor who played him in P&P2 was fantastic. Even though I have seen the movie a number of times, I still laugh every time I hear him gushing over Lady Catherine de Bourgh in his first letter to Mr. Bennet.
: : It's a classic!
:
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: I was just watching the 1st dinner scene with Mr. Collins last night and it was so funny. I loved the fact that Lizzie had to put her napkin up to her face to hide her laughing. But poor Mary seemed to like him. Did anyone else see that?
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:Yes, I did. When Mr. Collins first arrives, Mary is seen (I think behind Elizabeth) sort of smoothing her hair, as if to make herself more attractive to Mr. Collins. (I think that this is where she did this.) Also, when Mr. Collins asks Elizabeth for the first two dances at the Netherfield ball, Mary almost looks expectant, as if she thought he was going to ask her.
Posted by Mary on October 03, 1996 at 13:22:24:
: : Do you mean that you wish to talk about other subjects besides P&P2? In what ways did you wish to diversify? Just curious.
: : Susan
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: I was really referring to the failed experiments with the virtual views of ARWAV and Enchanted April. I think we go off topic just about the right amount.
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I'm really sorry about not contributing. I was one of the people who voted for "Enchanted April" and then I forgot to rent it over the weekend. (Duh!) Also,
I'm only online at work, so I don't always get to all of the posts, which makes me hesitant to put in my .02 worth. My husband's supposed to get us hooked up
at home for his work. But he'll faint onto the nearest sopha when he sees the bills if I indulge my addiction at home! Seriously, how much are your online
bills running and what provider do you use?
Mary
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