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Posted by Ann2 on September 27, 1996 at 10:20:43:
: : Wow, look at all these new people. Are we listed in a new search engine or directory or something? AltaVista shows no links whatsoever (though I know we are linked from Yahoo and the Internet Movie Database). Anybody who found this place in the past two weeks or so, would you mind emailing me directly to tell me how you got here?
: : Just click on my name above if your browser lets you do mailto: links. If not, it's:
: : firstname.lastname@example.org
Posted by Lynne on September 27, 1996 at 10:21:13:
: : : Its a fox! We have lots in the countryside here in England
: Lynne, we have yet to have a poster from England. What can you tell us about the new Emma? Has there been much publicity about it yet?
:Yes, It has just been released in the provinces after some
good reviews in London. The actress who plays Emma has been
much praised for her English accent (some even thought she
was English!). I confess I haven't seen it yet, but intend to
soon. I will look out for information on the film for you.
Posted by Deann Davis on September 27, 1996 at 10:24:11:
: Lisa says:
: : I just watched 4 Weddings and a Funeral and realized that many of the actors are also in the various recent Jane Austen movies.
: : Hugh Grant - Charles (4WF) and Edward (S&S)
: : Anna Chancellor - Caroline Bingley (P&P) and Henrietta/Duckface (4WF)
: : Rupert Vansittart - Mr. Hurst (P&P) and George the Boor at the Boatman (4WF)
: : Sophie Thompson - Mary (P) and Lydia the Bride (4WF)
: : Corin Redgrave - Mr. Elliot (P) and Hamish the Groom (4WF)
: : Also, Victoria Hamilton who is Mrs. Forster (P&P) is also Henrietta (P).
: Thanks, Lisa! I have seen all those movies at least twice, but I missed the Corin Redgrave and Rupert Vansittart overlaps. I guess I'll just have to watch them again. Also, you have to love these British names: Rupert, Corin, Hugh. When I was pregnant I read a baby name book that called names like that "RAF Flyer Names", and described the raffish but gentlemanly personality you would expect from the name. (I had a girl, Eve, but who knows if a Rupert is in my future---not if I associate the name with Mr. Hurst, however).
Just another quick addition to your list. Sophie Thompson (who is Emma Thompson's sister) is currently in the new version of Emma starring Gwenyth Paltrow.
Posted by Linda on September 27, 1996 at 10:26:18:
: Here are the bio questions developed by Ramona that some of us answered 10 days ago or so. If any of the new people here would like to tell about themselves, please do. If not, okay too. I'll try to get the answers from the others in shape sometime over the weekend.
: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: 1) Name-Linda Waldemar
: 2) Occupation-Computer Programmer
: 3) When you first saw P&P2-January, 1996
: 4) How did you find out about it?-From prmos on A&E
: 5) What interested you in seeing it?I've been a P&P enthusiast since high school. Anxious to see anything related to it.
: 6) Have you read the original novel?Rereading it right now for the umpteenth time.
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie?Many, many times before and several times afterward.
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.)Mr. Bennet, the Gardiners, Lady Catherine, Charlotte, Jane and more (excluding Mrs. Bennet, she was my only complaint about this adaptation, very annoying. This character in the 1985 version was much more likable.)
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence- Oh, so many!! I loved Mr. Darcy when he arrived at the Inn right after Lizzy read Jane's letter about the elopement. He was so gentle, concerned and caring. Also, when he was watching her play the piano at Pemberly (swoooon!!)
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)-The Netherfield ball and others with Mrs. Bennet.
: 11) Other Austen films viewed-P&P0(ugh!), P&P1, S&S1, S&S2, Persuasion1, Persuasion2, Emma1, Mansfield Park, Northanger Abbey. Looking forward to seeing Emma2 and Emma3 and even Clueless. I have purchased all 6 BBC videos from the
70's/80's, P&P0, P&P2. Also, several audio books; there is one done by BBC radio of Emma that is a production, rather than just a reading. Hoping for the price to go down so that I can purchase S&S2 and Persuasion2.
: 12) Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)-Married; my husband considers this addiction, an obsession. Love music and other literature of this era. So glad I found this bb as I am not acquainted with anyone else who shares my addiction. Thanks for being here.
Posted by Ann2 on September 27, 1996 at 10:27:58:
: : : < but I'm inclined to think its mostly accute shyness (because he hadn't taken the trouble
: : : : to practise!)>
: : :
: : : Do ya'll think Darcy was REALLY a shy person? I thought he was just copping out with a lame excuse for his snobby behavior. We don't get to see him in a variety of situations, so it is difficult to discern between shyness/extreme snobbiness. His strong personality and presence do not support the shyness route for me. Remember Col Fitzwilliam tells Lizzie how Darcy is "lively enough in other places, but gets very quiet when they come to Kent?" Maybe his aversion to his all knowing aunt and the horrible thought of his impending marriage the the beaten down Anne is the cause for this. When I think of shyness, I do not think of a man who behaves in such a forward manner in general ...
: : I agree totally. Darcy's not shy. But I think the confusion results from the way Colin Firth plays him. Believe me, I have absolutely no qualms whatsoever with Colin Firth's acting. But I think he did give us a different Darcy from the one in the book. It's a marvelous example of how an actor can put his own stamp on a character and make it work. In the book, we see Darcy asking Lizzy one night at Netherfield, whether she doesn't have a "great inclination to dance a reel" while Miss Bingley is playing. And also the comment about admiring their figures from his present position does not seem to me the action of a shy guy.
: : Darcy is reserved and perhaps insecure. He does not like people to know about his thoughts, feelings or personal business. But Darcy is not shy. He is not afraid of social interaction; he just doesn't enjoy it. But Firth plays Darcy shy. And a friend of mine says this is the real reason behind the whole Darcy craze. She thinks that if Firth had played Darcy as he's written in the book, we wouldn't like him half as much.
: : -Arnessa
: When Lizzie meets Georgiana in the book it says "Since her
: being at Lambton, she had heard that Miss Darcy was exceedingly
: proud; but the observation of a very few minutes convinced her
: that she was only exceedingly shy." Don't you think the same
: could be said of Darcy, only he has had 12 more years to deal
: with his shyness, and the advantages of being male and monied?
: And Lizzie has not just been slighted by Georgiana. Shy people usually
: develop mechanisms for sociallising as they get older, and
: are then merely called reserved.(This is me!)It also doesn't
: stop them having occasional boldness. There is also the house-
: keeper saying Darcy just doesnt rattle on as much as other young
: men. But its an interesting question, and CF has certainly
: defined Darcy in this way. Speaking of which, don't you like
: the way he's always fiddling with his ring? I think its a
: great touch.
About fiddling with the ring. I thought iwas the only one to notice... Just kidding but have you noticed how he lifts his right arm out when he asks if he may fetch
Bingley at Lambton inn? How many times does he do it in PP2? It is used in Valmont and I like it very well.
Posted by Ann2 on September 27, 1996 at 10:38:04:
: : Ann2:
: : Whenever the building of Rosings is sightable your eyes seek out the windows to Darcy´s room, it`s on the right wing(if someone out there is not so deep in it as I am.
: Well, then, have you noticed that although Darcy has to go upstairs to get to his room, when the camera looks at it from the outside it appears to be a downstairs room?
: Joan, too
I had not imagined that he could be and did not see it. But you are right, maybe they thought it to difficult to film Darcy at the window from a treetop or an aeroplane?
It sure is an error and where shall I look now? Upstairs whence he went and wrote, or downstairs where he actually stands? I am at a loss..help me!
Posted by Lisa J on September 27, 1996 at 10:54:32:
: Just another quick addition to your list. Sophie Thompson (who is Emma Thompson's sister) is currently in the new version of Emma starring Gwenyth Paltrow.
: Westminster College
Thanks for the addition. She was so hilarious as Mary, I can't wait to see her as Miss Bates.
Has anyone seen the latest Jane Eyre which I believe has Amanda Root as Jane's teacher?
Lisa from Hong Kong.
Posted by Amy on September 27, 1996 at 11:25:21:
: Jolly good idea! How about all of us who have ordered from them send an email. Or one of us such as you Amy could send a request on behalf of all of us. Please update us on what you decide to do. I am ready to be of assistance in anyway I can.
Sure I will do this, but I don't think any of you should let me quash your enthusiasm about getting it shown on A&E or any other route you want to pursue.
Posted by Amy on September 27, 1996 at 11:30:04:
Really I meant the new BBC mini which is supposed to be broadcast there in November, I think.
Posted by Amy on September 27, 1996 at 12:19:51:
I'd be up for this too. I missed AUSTEN-L's P&P read. What if we took it by scene, since that's our main reference point, then read to accompany the scene's we're on. The Austen list takes it by chapter, slow, about four a week. Anyone have an idea about we should divide it? What if we first tackled the "set-up" first -- everything up until the Merryton assembly?
Posted by Amy on September 27, 1996 at 12:30:51:
We are a narrow little niche market and entertainment companies don't know what to do with us. Some do a better job than others.
Whomever decides on the trailers to show in front of "our kind of movie," they do it right. I always marvel how they know me, and thought of it again as I watched the previews on Enchanted April. I'd seen The Hairdresser's Husband and A Brief History of Time and made mental notes to look for a couple of the others promoed. I don't believe I would ever have known about some movies I have enjoyed very much if it weren't for video trailers specifically targeted to me: Mind Walk and Impromptu are two that come to mind.
A&E, on the other hand, doesn't seem to get it. As I said, I don't want to dampen anybody's enthusiasm about campaigning for a showing of Perspectives or whatever it is they call the behind-the-scenes of P&P video. But from what I have heard it sounds like they just don't get it. They know the series was their most watched and brag about it, as someone here mentioned. But they won't go so far as to pander to what they see as the fanatic fringe. However their audience research may lead them to dissemble, I think they are missing an intuitive link: namely, if it is the most watched show and there are die hards involved, they have something special on thier hands and ought to assume that many many millions fall somewhere in between just watching it and cherishing it.
Posted by Cheryl on September 27, 1996 at 12:39:32:
: : 1) Name-Sally
: : 2) Occupation-clergywoman (United Methodist)
Sally, nice to have you here. I am a Music Director for a UMC church. Drop me a line, I would love to talk to you.
(Oooh, networking- I love it!)
Posted by Amy on September 27, 1996 at 12:48:10:
I was raised a Methodist too. Sometime, let's do a survey to see what other parts of our lives overlap besides this obsession. Guesses: we tend to have cats, would be better cast as teachers than barflys and feel our humor is generally misunderstood.
Posted by jp re:sarah on September 27, 1996 at 15:18:08:
: Hi, could you please say what book I should read after Pride and Prejudice
: and Sense and Sensibility.
: Please e-mail me.
Doesn't anybody like E.M. Forester? I loved Room with a View.
Have you seen the PBS version of Middlemarch or read the book.
It's sort of slow, yet good reading.Or try the Buccaneers by Edith Wharton.
(also on PBS).
Posted by Steve on September 27, 1996 at 15:20:33:
: : 1) Name-Sally
Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)- I was literally glued to the television set the whole time P&P was on,...
"Literally"? WOW! That's an addict!
Posted by jp on September 27, 1996 at 15:25:26:
Can anybody tell me the address for A&E's P&P contest
on the www or by mail?
Posted by Stefanie on September 27, 1996 at 15:39:14:
: I'd be up for this too. I missed AUSTEN-L's P&P read. What if we took it by scene, since that's our main reference point, then read to accompany the scene's we're on. The Austen list takes it by chapter, slow, about four a week. Anyone have an idea about we should divide it? What if we first tackled the "set-up" first -- everything up until the Merryton assembly?
This sounds good to me. When should we read it by?
Posted by Helping Hand on September 27, 1996 at 16:17:45:
: : Jolly good idea! How about all of us who have ordered from them send an email. Or one of us such as you Amy could send a request on behalf of all of us. Please update us on what you decide to do. I am ready to be of assistance in anyway I can.
: Sure I will do this, but I don't think any of you should let me quash your enthusiasm about getting it shown on A&E or any other route you want to pursue.
On the Firth FAQ list, they claim that this video is available through BBC Educational Programs for $199.
The US phone number is (212) 373-4137 for those interested.
Posted by Janice on September 27, 1996 at 16:41:55:
: I would like to try to fight (politely) for our right to see Making of P&P video. Why not an email campaign to A&E to either air the show or release it on home video. For the number of dedicated fans online there must be quite a number who have no access. It is our duty to speak for the powerless multitudes!!
: I know maybe attempts at calling, emailing and writing may have been done before. But an organized campaign might do the trick. If we can coordinate virtual viewings we can do this. Who is with me??
Count me in.
By the way, I found this forum recently. I am not only addicted to P&P (all the signs of addiction fit me well),
but to this discussion group as well (visit daily once at least). I enjoy reading all of your postings and found consolation to my helpless addiction.
In addition, I am very pleased to find out your views about other my favorate adaptations such as ARWAW, Persuasion...
You know, I was identified as an oddball among my friends by addicting to those well-made films :)
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