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Re: Screen Saver


Posted by Johanna on September 26, 1996 at 17:34:10:


In Reply to: Screen Saver posted by Sandra McClarty on September 25, 1996 at 18:18:52:

: I was wondering if anyone might have made a screen saver from some of the delicious images of Pride and Prejudice2. I am such a novice with the computer I don't yet know how to make my own. If someone can tell me how to do it, I would be appreciative. Or if anyone knows of where I could purchase one, I would also be happy. Also, I was wondering how I might check for an answer to this message. Sorry I'm so inept with all these newfangled electronic wonders like discussion groups and e-mail. Sandra McClarty

Nah, just go get a shareware copy of Snagit or WinCopy then get Movie Time! and you can make your own screen saver. I have several collections: Vermeer, P&P2, Calvin and Hobbs, X-Files (heh, heh, I should say X-Philes, I have seen every ep since day one, how embarassing!), and a variety of stuff. If _I_ can do it, you'll have a breeze. Good luck!
Johanna


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Re: Olivier version of P&P


Posted by Johanna on September 26, 1996 at 18:22:46:


In Reply to: Re: Olivier version of P&P posted by Anna-Karin Schander on September 26, 1996 at 17:08:48:

: : Outstanding adaptaion of Jane Austen's novel about five
: : husband-hunting sisters in 19th century England. Excellent
: : cast, fine period flavor in classic comedy of manners;
: : Aldous Huxley was one of the screen writers. Cedric Gibbons
: : and Paul Groesse's art direction deservedly earned an Oscar."
: : --Leonard Maltin

Some on the Austen list express delight in Greer Garson's performance, although I havn't seen it myself.
: I saw the Oliver version on TNT her in Sweden
Wow TNT in Sweden, I don't know if I should be pleased or embarrassed about that one!
What is the Movie this weekend? I watched "Zuckerbaby" (Sugarbaby) last night - _WOW_ just about covers the cinematography on that one - and didn't log on.
Johanna
ps Amy, I saw the CNN thing too, I am truely vexed and full of flutterings and tremblings!



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Re: Just how do you pronounce "Ehle" anyway?


Posted by Pam on September 26, 1996 at 18:32:45:


In Reply to: Just how do you pronounce "Ehle" anyway? posted by Cheryl on September 26, 1996 at 14:08:05:

: I've always wondered what is the correct pronunciation of Jennifer Ehle's name. I have at various times said to myself "Elle" or "Eel" or Ewell" or "Ella". Has anyone heard a reliable pronunciation? Anyone here from England who would have heard it on the Telly?
: Cheryl
I think I've heard it pronounced "EEL", as in eel-skinned
purse.


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Re: Just how do you pronounce "Ehle" anyway?


Posted by Pam on September 26, 1996 at 18:33:35:


In Reply to: Just how do you pronounce "Ehle" anyway? posted by Cheryl on September 26, 1996 at 14:08:05:

: I've always wondered what is the correct pronunciation of Jennifer Ehle's name. I have at various times said to myself "Elle" or "Eel" or Ewell" or "Ella". Has anyone heard a reliable pronunciation? Anyone here from England who would have heard it on the Telly?
: Cheryl
I think I've heard it pronounced "EEL", as in eel-skinned
purse.


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Re: Lizzy performs "Voi Che Sapete"


Posted by Donna on September 26, 1996 at 18:46:17:


In Reply to: Lizzy performs "Voi Che Sapete" posted by eva on September 26, 1996 at 09:42:11:

: English translation as sung by Lizzy in the beloved Pemberley scene:
: You who have tasted love's mystic spell
: What is this sorrow naught can dispel? (repeat 2x)
: Fair dame or maiden, none else may know
: My heart o'erladen, why is this so?
: What is this yearning, these trembling fears
: Rapturous burning, melting in tears?
: While thus I languish, wild beats my heart,
: Yet from my anguish I would not part,
: I seek a treasure Fate still denies,
: Naught else will pleasure,
: Naught else I prize...I'm ever sighing,
: I know not why, near unto dying, when none are by,
: My hear is riven night, morn and eve,
: But ah 'tis heaven, thus, thus to grieve!
: You who have tasted love's mystic spell
: What is this sorrow naught can dispel? (repeat 2x)
: Ann R. discloses:
: : : : 9) Favorite scene/sequence I actually whispered to myself "Oh thank you, yes!" when I first watched the Pemberly music night
: : : Darcy's face and the Mozart aria"Voi che sapete"( meaning Oh you who obey tender desires, tell me what is love?" In the opera
: : : sung by a young boy who has no experience but who's whole being is in a turmoil in the presence of to women who tease him and
: : : plays with him.Congenius! And when Darcy lingers to watch the carriage disappear with Lizzie into the night... and again the
: : : music and his eyes in the dark music room. Exquisite!
: : after my first couple viewings of P&P2, i was channel-surfing and perchance paused on this PBS special where opera stars were performing famous arias... needless to say, someone warbled 'voi che sapete' and a lightbulb went off in me, like it was fate. anyways, i went to my friend, the public library, and checked out 'Figaro' CDs to learn the song (even though it was sung in italian!)...then i had to check out the video of the opera to learn the context of the song... and then lastly (and perhaps pathetically? ;-> ), i found the corresponding English translation which Lizzy performs at Pemberley in the miniseries... sorry i had to unload. if anyone would like, i can dig out the English lyrics and post them...
: : -eva

There are different titles the one that Lizzie's sings is CHERUBINO-
"VOI,CHE SAPETE CHE COSA E AMOR" SONG by a LADY {could be alto} and "VOI CHE SAPETE" SONG by a
man guess that would be a tenor. They are different.

Donna,


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Re: Screen Saver


Posted by Pamela on September 26, 1996 at 18:49:47:


In Reply to: Re: Screen Saver posted by Johanna on September 26, 1996 at 17:34:10:

: : I was wondering if anyone might have made a screen saver from some of the delicious images of Pride and Prejudice2. I am such a novice with the computer I don't yet know how to make my own. If someone can tell me how to do it, I would be appreciative. Or if anyone knows of where I could purchase one, I would also be happy. Also, I was wondering how I might check for an answer to this message. Sorry I'm so inept with all these newfangled electronic wonders like discussion groups and e-mail. Sandra McClarty
: Nah, just go get a shareware copy of Snagit or WinCopy then get Movie Time! and you can make your own screen saver. I have several collections: Vermeer, P&P2, Calvin and Hobbs, X-Files (heh, heh, I should say X-Philes, I have seen every ep since day one, how embarassing!), and a variety of stuff. If _I_ can do it, you'll have a breeze. Good luck!
: Johanna
Do you have to have a scanner? Would you be so kind as to
share your P&P one with us?
Pamela


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Re: Lizzy performs "Voi Che Sapete"


Posted by Donna on September 26, 1996 at 18:50:06:


In Reply to: Re: Lizzy performs "Voi Che Sapete" posted by Donna on September 26, 1996 at 18:46:17:

: : English translation as sung by Lizzy in the beloved Pemberley scene:
: : You who have tasted love's mystic spell
: : What is this sorrow naught can dispel? (repeat 2x)
: : Fair dame or maiden, none else may know
: : My heart o'erladen, why is this so?
: : What is this yearning, these trembling fears
: : Rapturous burning, melting in tears?
: : While thus I languish, wild beats my heart,
: : Yet from my anguish I would not part,
: : I seek a treasure Fate still denies,
: : Naught else will pleasure,
: : Naught else I prize...I'm ever sighing,
: : I know not why, near unto dying, when none are by,
: : My hear is riven night, morn and eve,
: : But ah 'tis heaven, thus, thus to grieve!
: : You who have tasted love's mystic spell
: : What is this sorrow naught can dispel? (repeat 2x)
: : Ann R. discloses:
: : : : : 9) Favorite scene/sequence I actually whispered to myself "Oh thank you, yes!" when I first watched the Pemberly music night
: : : : Darcy's face and the Mozart aria"Voi che sapete"( meaning Oh you who obey tender desires, tell me what is love?" In the opera
: : : : sung by a young boy who has no experience but who's whole being is in a turmoil in the presence of to women who tease him and
: : : : plays with him.Congenius! And when Darcy lingers to watch the carriage disappear with Lizzie into the night... and again the
: : : : music and his eyes in the dark music room. Exquisite!
: : : after my first couple viewings of P&P2, i was channel-surfing and perchance paused on this PBS special where opera stars were performing famous arias... needless to say, someone warbled 'voi che sapete' and a lightbulb went off in me, like it was fate. anyways, i went to my friend, the public library, and checked out 'Figaro' CDs to learn the song (even though it was sung in italian!)...then i had to check out the video of the opera to learn the context of the song... and then lastly (and perhaps pathetically? ;-> ), i found the corresponding English translation which Lizzy performs at Pemberley in the miniseries... sorry i had to unload. if anyone would like, i can dig out the English lyrics and post them...
: : : -eva
: There are different titles the one that Lizzie's sings is CHERUBINO-
: "VOI,CHE SAPETE CHE COSA E AMOR" SONG by a LADY {could be alto} and "VOI CHE SAPETE" SONG by a
: man guess that would be a tenor. They are different. My son who is six come running when she sings
he loves it.
: Donna,


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Re: Mysterious H.C.


Posted by Donna on September 26, 1996 at 19:13:04:



I would like to know more about Mysterious H.C. he seems to be hear
when we need him. How long have you been doing this or "Whatever".
Without him we would be lost.

Donna,


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Re: Found us how?


Posted by Suz on September 26, 1996 at 19:15:25:


In Reply to: Found us how? posted by Amy on September 24, 1996 at 10:55:50:

: Wow, look at all these new people. Are we listed in a new search engine or directory or something? AltaVista shows no links whatsoever (though I know we are linked from Yahoo and the Internet Movie Database). Anybody who found this place in the past two weeks or so, would you mind emailing me directly to tell me how you got here?
: Just click on my name above if your browser lets you do mailto: links. If not, it's:
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: amyloo@bluemarble.net

: Thanks, just curious.
: Amy
I found web site in Colin Firth FAQ version 1.5. The web address is http://www.teleport.com/~kenellen/firthfaq.htm#firth. This was updated September 15, 1996 and they added your web site address.


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Re: What novel should I read?????


Posted by Pamela on September 26, 1996 at 19:23:58:


In Reply to: Re: What novel should I read????? posted by Stefanie on September 26, 1996 at 17:22:45:

: : Hi, could you please say what book I should read after Pride and Prejudice
: : and Sense and Sensibility.
: : Please e-mail me.
: Defintely read Emma. Besides the fact that it is a great Austen novel, A&E/BBC are making a mini-series out of it!!
: Stefanie
Read ALL of them! I thought the best were Persuasion and Emma.


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Re: Bio questions for new guests


Posted by Anna-Karin Schander on September 26, 1996 at 19:28:53:


In Reply to: Re: Bio questions for new guests posted by Ann2 on September 24, 1996 at 01:47:18:

: : Here are the bio questions developed by Ramona that some of us answered 10 days ago or so. If any of the new people here would like to tell about themselves, please do. If not, okay too. I'll try to get the answers from the others in shape sometime over the weekend.
: : Amy
: : - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: : 1) Name-Ann Rydberg
: : 2) Occupation-librarian
: : 3) When you first saw P&P2-dec/95-jan/96
: : 4) How did you find out about it?A friend spoke about it.I
: planned to watch it in a relaxed way...
: : 5) What interested you in seeing it?I had vague memories from
: what I now understand must be P&P1, and I knew from the novel that
: Darcy was something extra.
: : 6) Have you read the original novel?3 times from beginning to end
: and several times bits and pieces after video sessions.
: : 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie?Both
: : 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.)I admire the casting very much
: so it is hard to pick just one or two...well Mr Collins speaking of his preparing compliments, boastingabout the windows
: chimneys of Rosings, demonstrating the wardrobe shelves and crawling at lady Cathrines feet. Mr Bennet "no lace Mrs Bennet
: I implore you..." or "I am afraid we can´t avoid his company now" from behind his paper.
: : 9) Favorite scene/sequence I actually whispered to myself "Oh thank you, yes!" when I first watched the Pemberly music night
: Darcy´s face and the Mozart aria"Voi che sapete"( meaning Oh you who obey tender desires, tell me what is love?" In the opera
: sung by a young boy who has no experience but who´s whole being is in a turmoil in the presence of to women who tease him and
: plays with him.Congenius! And when Darcy lingers to watch the carriage disappear with Lizzie into the night... and again the
: music and his eyes in the dark music room. Exquisite!
: : 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)-That would be Mrs Bennet
: loudly commenting on mr Collins fancy for Lizzie,... but Bingley was there before him... and throwing the girls in the way of other
: rich men..(poor Lizzie and Jane)
: : 11) Other Austen films viewed-P&P1 (long ago), S&S film -96 and BBC video, Persuasion(film and video), Emma and Northanger Abbey
: (BBC videos). Have bought Mansfield Park but shall read the novel before I allow myself to watch it.
: : 12) Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)- Have red Sanditon which gave me some pleasure, some
: of the juvenilia, the chapter that was replaced in Persuasion (well worth reading as it shows how Jane Austen tried to reach perfection.
: I am interested in books, art, ballet and music. Gardening
in an untidy sort of way. Married,daughter (23) and son (16)

Nice to see that here are other swedish P&P 2 fans than me

Anna-Karin Schander.


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Re: Bath


Posted by Joan, too on September 26, 1996 at 19:31:51:


In Reply to: Re: Bath posted by The Mysterious H.C. on September 26, 1996 at 16:34:09:


:

: : In so many of Jane Austen's novels she talks about a place called Bath. Can anyone tell where this place is and why is seems to be so important to the people of this period.

:

It was a health resort and retirement town, and a provincial outpost of fashonable life (though not as fashionable as it had been in earlier decades). Jane Austen's parents were married there, she lived there for almost five years, and her father is buried there.

Actually it is a very old and historic city - it is named "Bath" because of the baths built there by the Romans during the time that England was part of the Roman Empire. The Roman baths are still there to be visited (though no longer used). ;-)
Joan, too



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Re: Signs of Addiction


Posted by Anna-Karin schander on September 26, 1996 at 19:37:30:


In Reply to: Re: Signs of Addiction posted by Ann2 on September 25, 1996 at 01:11:39:

: : Hello, my name is Cheryl and I am a P&P2 addict (Hi Cheryl!)
: : Amy suggested starting a list of "Signs of Addiction to P&P2" and I shall get the ball rolling by listing some already mentioned, adding some of my own and inviting you to add to the list.
: : 1. You view alone, and in secret, taking special care to hide knowledge of this from your family.
: : 2. You have become a P&P2 "Pusher" foisting video taped copies onto unsuspecting friends.
: : 3. You tend not to use contractions in speech and writing.
: : 4. Friends comment upon your improved posture.
: : 5. As you watch the video, you recite dialogue along with characters.
: : 6. You now know how to dance the Sarabande to Mr. Beveridge's Maggot with no prior lessons.
: : 7. You begin to smile in anticipation before Mr. Bennett even begins to speak.
: : 8. You know what lies around every corner at Pemberly.
: : 9. You know the VCR counter numbers and can accurately fast forward to your favorite scenes.
: : Any other contributions?
: : Cheryl
: : PS. Think of all our poor sisters out there who do not have access to this support group. How they must suffer believing themselves to be alone in their addiction! If only there were a way to reach them!
: Yes, yes to think there are so many of us!
: Here are a few more signs of A.
: You mix your everyday speech, especially when one of your nearest fellow addicts is present,
: with quotations like "I´m all astonishment". or "You know exactly what to think". When my
: vacation was about to start this july I found a note from another addict on my desk and it ended
: "Don´t get too brown and coarse this summer!".
: Whenever the building of Rosings is sightable your eyes seek out the windows to Darcy´s room, it`s
: on the right wing(if someone out there is not so deep in it as I am.
: I also have been very close to making plans of the rooms, in particular at Lucas Lodge where the Darcy
: looks and moves are most significant. That first one is interesting, rather bold and perhaps the only
: one where you get a hint of what he was like womanwise before getting bewitched.
: Sorry, my thoughts carried me away. I had better stop, this is not even my lucheon hour, i am supposed to
: do some work here.
: Ann2

Yes Darcys every look and move are significant. As for how he was womanwise before getting
bewitched by Lizzy.I have always wondered. At Lucas lodge he says to miss
bingley that he is reflecting over the very great pleasure a pair of fine yes in the face
of a pretty woman can bestow. Maybe a hint of that he maybe was not
wholly innocent but it is hard to tell.

anna-Karin


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Re: What novel should I read?????


Posted by Ann on September 26, 1996 at 19:38:27:


In Reply to: What novel should I read????? posted by Sarah on September 26, 1996 at 16:16:43:

: Hi, could you please say what book I should read after Pride and Prejudice
: and Sense and Sensibility.
: Please e-mail me.

My vote is for Persuasion.

Ann


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Re: Mysterious H.C.


Posted by Amy on September 26, 1996 at 19:46:46:


In Reply to: Re: Mysterious H.C. posted by Donna on September 26, 1996 at 19:13:04:

Donna wondered about HC:

: I would like to know more about Mysterious H.C. he seems to be here
: when we need him.


Isn't he handy to have around? Sombody asks about Bath -- he happens to have a map in his pocket. I like to think of him as a cross between:

  1. The Mystery Guest on What's My Line;
  2. Angel (the little helpnik in the virtual database in Disclosure); and
  3. The Great Gazoo.

In Regency garb, of course.


We thank you HC, whoever you are.

Amy


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Re: Olivier version of P&P


Posted by Joan, too on September 26, 1996 at 19:51:54:


In Reply to: Re: Olivier version of P&P posted by Johanna on September 26, 1996 at 18:22:46:

: ps Amy, I saw the CNN thing too, I am truely vexed and full of flutterings and tremblings!

What vexes me even nore, though, is that his comments are being given so much free air-time - thus giving him exactly what he wants. We have already learned to expect no less from him - but I do expect better of the media and the press. Let him rot in complete and total isolation: Lady Catherine has the right idea in this case - let his name (and words and deeds) never again be spoken by anyone. Ever.
Joan, too


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