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Posted by Joan, too on September 24, 1996 at 19:16:11:
: Tommye
: I am completely impressed with the clipart of Joan's and the fact that Amy knew just how to do it.
(no longer on my lunch break) So am I. I might have been able to do that in an hour or so - *if* I could have found any clip art and *if* I could find my how-to-do-it directions.
Seems as if no matter how much disk space is filed with clip art, the one item that I really need is never there. (of course it might help if I had the imaages cataloged in some way, too.)
Joan, too
Posted by Ramona on September 24, 1996 at 19:40:09:
: Hey! I forgot to respond to Cheryl's inquiry about Ann of Green Gables. Yes, Yes, Yes, of course, I've seen it! At least four of five times! Is it a SIGN? Details, I love details. I saw "Emma" again with my 13 year old daughter yesterday and enjoyed it twice as much as the first time. There was so much I missed the first go-round. Now, I need to see it again to see what else I missed! It seems to me that people in this little group like to see things over and over again, too. Everyone seems so analytical, but with different eyes to see different details. I was amazed at all that talk about camera angles, etc. I'm getting quite an education! I think this is all about vicarious experiences, or should I not have said this? I downloaded a pic of Mr. Darcy and my husband saw it and xeroxed a copy of his own picture and taped it over Mr. Darcy! He was actually jealous.. I told him that I only preferred Mr. Darcy when I was Lizzy...(Hmmmmm.)
: Tommye (No, I'm just thinking out loud. I'm not a weirdo.)
I think for many who haven't yet seen it the Anne of G. Gables minis would be ideal especially for the whole family and right along the same lines of humor, quality, romance and happy endings as P&P2.
I too have enjoyed all the stimulating discussions of late.
Posted by Maureen on September 24, 1996 at 19:45:48:
The moment I laid eyes on Colin Firth in P&P I knew that i would never be the same. Colin portrays such an excellent Darcy that I have virtually become addicited to the 6-hour miniseries!! If anyone is just as obsessed as me, email me and we'll talk!! Don't be scared, there are a lot of us Darcy-lovers out there!!
Oh- by the way - I am new to your forum!
You also know that there are better Merchant ivory films than Room with a View!!!
-Maureen
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Posted by Marie on September 24, 1996 at 19:54:54:
: Lydia's "Save your breath to cool your porridge" is not in the novel at that point, I don't think. But it must be the title of a song, for it is mentioned in the scene we debated about a week ago or so, in which Charlotte urges Lizzy to play and sing at Lucus Lodge.
: Amy
Eliza says it to Darcy when, after Charlotte's teasing her to play and sing, she has agreed to "exhibit". In the novel, Eliza says: "Very well; if it must be so, it must." And gravely glancing at Mr. Darcy, "There is a fine old saying, which everybody here is of course familiar with: 'Keep your breath to cool your porridge'; and I shall keep mine to cool my song."
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Posted by Cheryl on September 24, 1996 at 20:07:43:
: I would also like to get a hold of Mansfield Revisited as well as
: a copy of the booklet with the alternative ending of Mansfield
: Park, if any knows how?
: Thanks for your help!!!
There is an alternate ending to Mansfield Park? I knew there was one to Persuasion, but did not know of any others. Pray, tell me what happens? Fanny does not accept that scoundrel Henry Crawford, does she? Oh no! I hope I have not fired the first salvo in a renewal of the "Fanny Wars".
Cheryl
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Posted by Ann on September 24, 1996 at 20:13:47:
: The moment I laid eyes on Colin Firth in P&P I knew that i would never be the same. Colin portrays such an excellent Darcy that I have virtually become addicited to the 6-hour miniseries!! If anyone is just as obsessed as me, email me and we'll talk!! Don't be scared, there are a lot of us Darcy-lovers out there!!
: Oh- by the way - I am new to your forum!
: You also know that there are better Merchant ivory films than Room with a View!!!
: -Maureen
We all do, Maureen. You may also be interested in the Friends of Firth web site:
http://www.iupui.edu/~rogersc/firth.html
Ann
Posted by Joan, too on September 24, 1996 at 20:16:18:
: Eliza says it to Darcy when, after Charlotte's teasing her to play and sing, she has agreed to "exhibit". In the novel, Eliza says: "Very well; if it must be so, it must." And gravely glancing at Mr. Darcy, "There is a fine old saying, which everybody here is of course familiar with: 'Keep your breath to cool your porridge'; and I shall keep mine to cool my song."
OK, folks, according to Brewer's Dictionary of Phrase and Fable, Keep, or save your breath to cool your porridge is "a blunt remark to one who is giving unwanted or unsought advice. Well, friar, spare your breath to cool your porridge; come, let us now talk with deliberation, fairly and softly. RABELAIS: Pantagruel, etc. V, xxviii.
Joan, too
Posted by Cheryl on September 24, 1996 at 20:48:46:
As some of you know, my family is away so I am enjoying guilt-free viewing. As I watched for the ____teenth time, I heard something that has always bothered me, but never knew whom to ask regarding this, but now I have found all of you, and someone here will have the answer to my inquiry. In the scene when Darcy is writing his infamous letter to Lizzy and he gets to the part where he writes "This Madam, is a faithful narrative of all my dealings with Mr. Wickham" there are what sounds to me to be screams in the background for the next several seconds (muted, to be sure, but there nonetheless.) The only explanation I can come up with is that it appears to be close to daybreak and it could be a rooster, I suppose, but if so it is a rooster in dire distress! Quick ladies, to the tapes! It happens near the beginning of tape four (but you already knew that, did you not?) Someone tell me I am not imagining this!
Cheryl
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Posted by Lilian on September 24, 1996 at 22:32:14:
: The moment I laid eyes on Colin Firth in P&P I knew that i would never be the same. Colin portrays such an excellent Darcy that I have virtually become addicited to the 6-hour miniseries!! If anyone is just as obsessed as me, email me and we'll talk!! Don't be scared, there are a lot of us Darcy-lovers out there!!
: Oh- by the way - I am new to your forum!
: You also know that there are better Merchant ivory films than Room with a View!!!
: -Maureen
You think you're addicted? I too was never the same after I had to study
the novel for Year 11 English. (And I wasn't keen about it at the start
although after watching the 1985 BBC adaption my view thus changed).
I think Firth makes an excellent Darcy and I absolutely adore the 1995
adaption soooo much that I have watched the whole series twice in the
last few weeks (and I keep on rewinding the Darcy bits :) ).
So much for studying! Ahhhh.....
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Posted by Raphael on September 24, 1996 at 23:46:57:
: As some of you know, my family is away so I am enjoying guilt-free viewing. As I watched for the ____teenth time, I heard something that has always bothered me, but never knew whom to ask regarding this, but now I have found all of you, and someone here will have the answer to my inquiry. In the scene when Darcy is writing his infamous letter to Lizzy and he gets to the part where he writes "This Madam, is a faithful narrative of all my dealings with Mr. Wickham" there are what sounds to me to be screams in the background for the next several seconds (muted, to be sure, but there nonetheless.) The only explanation I can come up with is that it appears to be close to daybreak and it could be a rooster, I suppose, but if so it is a rooster in dire distress! Quick ladies, to the tapes! It happens near the beginning of tape four (but you already knew that, did you not?) Someone tell me I am not imagining this!
: Cheryl
I feel truly for you the degree of your passionate addiction. We
all, I think, should take solace in the embrace of our sisterly
(and brotherly!) bosoms [loosely paraphrased].
It sounds like the scream of a peacock, to answer your question.
I am not sure, however, if they would be awake at night or not.
Someone, perchance, could answer this question for us, easing our
troubled minds?
To digress upon a memory path ... last year I was driving up in
Marin county, in the country, and I came down into a little gully
where a stream crossed the road. All of a sudden, what might arise
before me, directly in my path, but a plumed, graceful peacock! I
slammed on the brakes; it watched me petulantly ... and didn't move.
Eventually it took an interest in one side of the road and proceeded
over to it, thus giving me leave to continue about my journey, but
not before it produced the most uncanny of calls -- a call decidedly
similar to a human scream. Perhaps this is what you heard.
There are other night birds now and again in P&P2. For example, in
at least one of the evening scenes between Jane and Lizzy, in her
bedroom, you can faintly hear an owl. Marvelous!
Yours, &tc, &tc,
Raphael
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Posted by Joan, too on September 24, 1996 at 23:54:42:
: Raphael:
: It sounds like the scream of a peacock, to answer your question. I am not sure, however, if they would be awake at night or not. Someone, perchance, could answer this question for us, easing our troubled minds?
Yes!!! That is IT. I knew I had heard that cry somewhere. Warwick Castle (and other stately homes) are *swarming* with the beasts. Of course Lady C. would have had flocks of them.
Joan, too
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Posted by Amy on September 25, 1996 at 00:55:15:
After I purged all the threads about the next virtual view, Ann, your
posts number more than my own -- 43 vs 40 in the last 6 days.
FYI those making at least 6 posts during those 6 days number
9 of the 66 different posters:
Ann1 43
Amy 40
Joan, too 28
Tommeye 18
Donna 10
Marie 9
Cheryl 7
Marsha 6
hat 6
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Posted by Ann2 on September 25, 1996 at 01:11:39:
: Hello, my name is Cheryl and I am a P&P2 addict (Hi Cheryl!)
: Amy suggested starting a list of "Signs of Addiction to P&P2" and I shall get the ball rolling by listing some already mentioned, adding some of my own and inviting you to add to the list.
: 1. You view alone, and in secret, taking special care to hide knowledge of this from your family.
: 2. You have become a P&P2 "Pusher" foisting video taped copies onto unsuspecting friends.
: 3. You tend not to use contractions in speech and writing.
: 4. Friends comment upon your improved posture.
: 5. As you watch the video, you recite dialogue along with characters.
: 6. You now know how to dance the Sarabande to Mr. Beveridge's Maggot with no prior lessons.
: 7. You begin to smile in anticipation before Mr. Bennett even begins to speak.
: 8. You know what lies around every corner at Pemberly.
: 9. You know the VCR counter numbers and can accurately fast forward to your favorite scenes.
: Any other contributions?
: Cheryl
: PS. Think of all our poor sisters out there who do not have access to this support group. How they must suffer believing themselves to be alone in their addiction! If only there were a way to reach them!
Yes, yes to think there are so many of us!
Here are a few more signs of A.
You mix your everyday speech, especially when one of your nearest fellow addicts is present,
with quotations like "I´m all astonishment". or "You know exactly what to think". When my
vacation was about to start this july I found a note from another addict on my desk and it ended
"Don´t get too brown and coarse this summer!".
Whenever the building of Rosings is sightable your eyes seek out the windows to Darcy´s room, it`s
on the right wing(if someone out there is not so deep in it as I am.
I also have been very close to making plans of the rooms, in particular at Lucas Lodge where the Darcy
looks and moves are most significant. That first one is interesting, rather bold and perhaps the only
one where you get a hint of what he was like womanwise before getting bewitched.
Sorry, my thoughts carried me away. I had better stop, this is not even my lucheon hour, i am supposed to
do some work here.
Ann2
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Posted by Cheryl on September 25, 1996 at 01:19:41:
:
: : Raphael:
: : It sounds like the scream of a peacock, to answer your question. I am not sure, however, if they would be awake at night or not. Someone, perchance, could answer this question for us, easing our troubled minds?
: Yes!!! That is IT. I knew I had heard that cry somewhere. Warwick Castle (and other stately homes) are *swarming* with the beasts. Of course Lady C. would have had flocks of them.
: Joan, too
I am so relieved! This has bothered me from my first viewing! I had visions of Lady Catherine abusing Mr. Collins (much to his secret delight) or of something equally unsavory to produce such horrid sounds. I do wonder, though, that it was not erased during the editing process. Or is the cry of peacocks a readily recognizable sound in England, and it is only we uncouth Americans who would be unawares? Thank you, thank you Raphael and Joan, too for relieving my mind. I shall have to watch the tapes again and see if I am able listen to the cries and picture the peacocks and remain unperturbed. (Gracious, what are the odds of my watching the tapes AGAIN?)
Cheryl
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Posted by Ann2 on September 25, 1996 at 01:20:23:
: : I learned only today that the Firthlisters have been trashing us, or me or this board or something. I don't read the digests everyday and missed the damning posts. Anna-Karin or Laura, pray write and tell the nature of this slander for I am quite astonished to hear of it.
: : Are we too uneducated in Firthlore? Too prissy? I don't understand. I have always enjoyed reading the posts there and have delighted in the difference from this place in style, tone, character. Hurts my feelings a little. Please tell so I won't imagine worse.
: : Amy
: :
: Really? but why? Too bad if it is true.
: I read them from time to time and enjoy it too.
: I thought we were all on the same boat, that is, addict to P&P, and adore Firth.
: However, I think we may be a bit open minded, we are allowed to adore others, such as Hinds, Rupert, Sewell...:)
What is this?
Would anyone be so kind as to give me the adress to the firthlist? Is it a group like this ore is it
some e-mail subscription?
I have read alot of Firth facts, Faqs, fantasies and so forth but have I missed their way of exchanging opinions?
Ann2
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Posted by Joan, too on September 25, 1996 at 01:27:43:
: Ann2:
: Whenever the building of Rosings is sightable your eyes seek out the windows to Darcy´s room, it`s on the right wing(if someone out there is not so deep in it as I am.
Well, then, have you noticed that although Darcy has to go upstairs to get to his room, when the camera looks at it from the outside it appears to be a downstairs room?
Joan, too
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Posted by Joan, too on September 25, 1996 at 01:33:06:
: Cheryl:
I do wonder, though, that it was not erased during the editing process. Or is the cry of peacocks a readily recognizable sound in England, and it is only we uncouth Americans who would be unawares?
Indeed, it is a very common sound, and they deliberately added in all of those wildlife sounds on purpose. I've noticed that that is almost a trademark of British set-in-England film and video programs. I would not be at all surprised if they deliberately chose to add the peacock scream at that particular point to underscore Darcy's emotional turmoil.
Joan, too
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