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Posted by Amy on September 24, 1996 at 14:36:47:
Joan, what are you doing posting at this time? Obsessing on your lunch hour now, too?
Re coughing. Another tidbit interesting to no one but us loonies and perhaps not even to many of us:
Lydia's "Save your breath to cool your porridge" is not in the novel at that point, I don't think. But it must be the title of a song, for it is mentioned in the scene we debated about a week ago or so, in which Charlotte urges Lizzy to play and sing at Lucus Lodge.
Amy
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Posted by Adi on September 24, 1996 at 14:38:34:
first i want to appologize about my english (blame it on my english teacher...)
if anyone wants to correct my spelling mistakes-by all means, be my guest!!! (email)
so lets get to it:
: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: 1) Name-adi
: 2) Occupation-soldier, i'm a software engineer in the israely army.
: 3) When you first saw P&P2-may 96
: 4) How did you find out about it?newspaper
: 5) What interested you in seeing it?to be honest..., i read in an article that in britain, when p&p2 was shown on t.v - no woman
was seen in the streets..., so i thought to myself: it ought to be good!
: 6) Have you read the original novel?yes
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie?after
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.)
i would have to say: Charlotte. i don't know why, maybe because she is such a nice person-and the only friend of lizzy
-outside the family.
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence-Lizzy and Darcy meeting at Pemberley:I couldn't speak for 10 min...
It was so great!, absolutly amazing.....
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)-In the end,
after Lady Catrin's visit, when Mr bennet called Lizzy and told her about Mr Collins' letter, saying -it's ridiculous that there is a rumour
about Darcy may marrying her... It was too cruel to watch....
: 11) Other Austen films viewed-None
: 12) Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)-
i'm 20 years old. as i mentioned before, i'm from israel and i'm in the army now (it's like that song...)
yesterday, when i descoverd this discussion group-i was so excited thet i stayed awake untill 4.00 in the morning!,
and i had a realy major headache, when i got up today at 7.00 o'clock...
i didn't find any other Jane Austen's movies in my area (accept s&s in the cinema) - so my situation is very bad indeed....
SHALOM to all !, adi
Posted by Joan, too on September 24, 1996 at 14:41:42:
: Joan, what are you doing posting at this time? Obsessing on your lunch hour now, too?
(guilty)
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Posted by Amy on September 24, 1996 at 14:50:18:
: : Joan, what are you doing posting at this time? Obsessing on your lunch hour now, too?
: (guilty)
Yeah, well. I shouldn't talk. Who's the one who just spent 10 minutes finding clipart of a steaming bowl, converting it to GIF, refilling the steam color to make sure it was visible and uploading it? We're hopeless.
Amy
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Posted by Marsha on September 24, 1996 at 15:21:35:
: Can anyone tell how to get a hold of a copy of Pemberly Shades?
: My local stores don't have it and can't even order it. Can
: anyone help?
: I would also like to get a hold of Mansfield Revisited as well as
: a copy of the booklet with the alternative ending of Mansfield
: Park, if any knows how?
: Thanks for your help!!!
If you want just to read it, you can order it through interlibrary loan, because many libraries have them (e.g. CU library does). Also, you can find out from the books-in-print catalogs (I know they had one where in the library I used to live), the publishers' name and write to them requesting a copy.
Hope this was helpful.
Marsha
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Posted by Marsha on September 24, 1996 at 15:24:52:
: :
: : A while ago--I think on CNN--there was a discussion on why Austen
: : was so popular again. One commentator suggested that she wrote
: : something akin to women's pornography. (I believe she meant in
: : the erotic and not in the exploitative sense of the word).
: : Especially after the additions by Davies of the bathtub, fencing,
: : and swimming/wet shirt scenes I think I agree.
: : Any thoughts?
: : Ann
: Definately, although I personally I tended to enjoy Davies's
: adaption a little better than the other versions, I think
: that Jane Austen would have been horrified to have seen
: Darcy wet and tossle-headed conversing with Lizzy at Pemberley!
: I think that Lizzy is very much like the modern woman today (you know,
: able to speak her mind, witty, outspoken, says what she thinks etc.)
: that we relate to her now. I suppose that's why Jane Austen
: is popular now..she's still so trendy in society. And of course,
: she is sooo romantic..
I agree, but I think it is also, because most of her characters are people we might know, and whom she makes interesting, even though if we met them in real life, we couldn't stand them (eg Mr Collins).
Gosh, this is bbecoming worse! Two messages in 10 minutes!!!! I am definitely hooked.!!!
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Posted by Marsha on September 24, 1996 at 15:37:07:
Does anyone know where I can get BBC adaptations of other Jane Austen novels? Thanks!
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Posted by Ann on September 24, 1996 at 16:20:09:
: Does anyone know where I can get BBC adaptations of other Jane Austen novels? Thanks!
I saw P&P, S&S, Emma and Persuasion, all made in the 70's
and 80's at Media Play.
Ann
Posted by Tommye on September 24, 1996 at 16:32:57:
:
: : : Joan, what are you doing posting at this time? Obsessing on your lunch hour now, too?
: : (guilty)
:
: Yeah, well. I shouldn't talk. Who's the one who just spent 10 minutes finding clipart of a steaming bowl, converting it to GIF, refilling the steam color to make sure it was visible and uploading it? We're hopeless.
: Amy
I am completely impressed with the clipart of Joan's and the fact that Amy knew just how to do it. I feel so, so, plebian. So out of it. Tommye
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Posted by Tommye on September 24, 1996 at 16:41:01:
:
: A while ago--I think on CNN--there was a discussion on why Austen
: was so popular again. One commentator suggested that she wrote
: something akin to women's pornography. (I believe she meant in
: the erotic and not in the exploitative sense of the word).
: Especially after the additions by Davies of the bathtub, fencing,
: and swimming/wet shirt scenes I think I agree.
: Any thoughts?
: Ann
I am sorry, Ann. But I find today that commentators and the like attempt to reduce everything to something sexual, usually over-the-top stuff, pornography. I think it is more true to say that women are dying for purity--of thought, of action, of passion, even. There is something so wonderful about a first, passionate, real love (unintended, of course) filled with novel hope and expectation of things to come. The relationships that develop over time and which are portrayed in P&P are wonderful because of that, I think. Arousal does not have to be pornographic...this is a heart arousal, a prompting of dreams...I think people used to call it ROMANCE. I despise the thought that such an idea would be considered pornographic. Yech. Tommye
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Posted by Ann on September 24, 1996 at 16:43:01:
: Gosh, this is bbecoming worse! Two messages in 10 minutes!!!! I am definitely hooked.!!!
You think that's bad, take a look at some of the times I've
been on. They range from 9:00am to 3:00am, sometimes on the
same day! :)
Ann
Posted by Ann on September 24, 1996 at 16:54:48:
: I am sorry, Ann. But I find today that commentators and the like attempt to reduce everything to something sexual, usually over-the-top stuff, pornography. I think it is more true to say that women are dying for purity--of thought, of action, of passion, even. There is something so wonderful about a first, passionate, real love (unintended, of course) filled with novel hope and expectation of things to come. The relationships that develop over time and which are portrayed in P&P are wonderful because of that, I think. Arousal does not have to be pornographic...this is a heart arousal, a prompting of dreams...I think people used to call it ROMANCE. I despise the thought that such an idea would be considered pornographic. Yech. Tommye
I figured I would get some strong disagreement. Perhaps
there is a difference between men's and women's pornography.
Men want explicit sex; women want something more like P&P.
The term "Romance" certainly does fit better.
Ann
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Posted by Stefanie on September 24, 1996 at 17:27:29:
I don't know about the other books mentioned, but acording to Borders and Barnes and Noble, Pemberley Shades is no longer in print.
Their advice to me was to check out the library and used book stores.
Stefanie
Posted by Mich on September 24, 1996 at 17:33:51:
I've found them at the list below. Video Finder wa the best
BBC 1-800-216-1222
BBC Direct 1-212-705-9487 Fax 1-212-705-9344 PBS Cust Serv 1-800-531-4727
Signals 1-800-669-9691
1-800-669-5225
Video finder
1-800-343-4727
: Does anyone know where I can get BBC adaptations of other Jane Austen novels? Thanks!
Posted by Julia on September 24, 1996 at 18:29:07:
: Hi All,
: Has anyone read any of the sequels to P&P?
: Are they as bad as I've heard? Sorry if you've already covered this.
: I know one was Presumption by Julie Barrett.
: I forgotten the other anyone remeber?
: Response to previously posted questions from above
:there is a book called Pemberly and another one called An
Unequal Marriage by Emma Tennant--oh and yes, they distort
the original
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