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Posted by Katherine on September 22, 1996 at 17:35:17:
: Sarah said:
: : It is too bad we do not have some of the original confessions available in archives...so many expressions just like yours, Tommye and Cheryl!!! Arnessa had one that was quite an accurate description for so many of us - compelling and true in its confession. Someone (may have been Arnessa, i can't remember) talked of carrying extra copies with her pushing it off on anyone she could!! (thus also lableing her a PUSHER!!!)
: I can't tell you how badly I feel about trashing that particular post. When this board first went up, I neglected to keep the first 80 or so messages, telling myself they were mostly tests. But Arnessa's great addiction post was among them.
: Arnessa, if you are over there behind that screen I covered last spring, pray appear and tell if there's a chance you might have kept a copy of that post.
: Absent that, what do you say we begin a list of "Signs of Addiction," starting with some of the behaviors mentioned in this thread: pushing, hiding it from family. I would add a tendency not to use contractions in speech and writing and improved posture.
: Amy
Oh PLEASE do. I would love to compare symptoms. I am also a pusher and a hider. My latest sign of addiction is realizing that I know the counter number on the VCR for the videotapes that will get me to my favorite scenes if I need to fast forward.
I thought I was alone with my obsessive regard for P&P2. After discovering your site I have been lurking happily for a few weeks. It has been *wonderful* reading all of your wise and witty comments and observations. I now no longer worry about my addiction-I'm back to just enjoying it-but I do have a new concern. I feel I'm demonstrating signs of schizophrenia.
Now in addition to thinking about P&P more often than anyone is my acquaintance I hear the voices of people I have never MET in my head while I am re-reading scenes in or watching P&P!! Thank you joantoo,amy, arnessa, raphael, cheryl and all the rest for your posts. Although I may look crazy laughing out loud at my computer monitor, exclaiming aloud while watching a scene
or having a one sided conversation with a thread I'm very happy.
"I cannot fix on the hour,or the spot, or the look, or the words which laid the foundation. It is too long ago. I was in the middle before I knew that I had begun"
Katherine
Posted by Susan on September 22, 1996 at 17:43:10:
:
: :
: .. I am currenty living in South Carolina but I can't wait to move back North!!!
: Hey, Susan! I live in South Carolina, too! Where do you want to move back North???
: There may actually be more opportunity to experience "things English" here in the South. Take Charleston, for instance. Lots of early English influence here. "Emma" is playing at the Roxy on East Bay St. (The only theatre int he whole area to show it for a month!)
: We moved here from Northern VA two years ago. But I have deep Southern roots and I had to return. Regards.
: Tommye
Tommye,
I just noticed that I spelled your name wrong in my other message!!! Sorry!!!
Susan
Posted by Marsha on September 22, 1996 at 18:05:06:
: Here are the bio questions developed by Ramona that some of us answered 10 days ago or so. If any of the new people here would like to tell about themselves, please do. If not, okay too. I'll try to get the answers from the others in shape sometime over the weekend.
: Amy
: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: 1) Name-Marsha
: 2) Occupation-Cornell student
: 3) When you first saw P&P2-In January 1996
: 4) How did you find out about it? Ads on TV
: 5) What interested you in seeing it?I am a Jane Austen fanatic
: 6) Have you read the original novel? yes
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie? before
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.) Mr Bennett
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence The dance scene
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)- Darcy's first proposal
: 11) Other Austen films viewed-P&P,S&S,Northanger Abbey,Emma
: 12) Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)-
Posted by marsha on September 22, 1996 at 18:08:59:
: Next virtual viewing nominations. Vote by Tuesday. We will begin discussion on Sunday 9/29.
:
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Posted by Cheryl on September 22, 1996 at 18:52:42:
: Thanks for the encouraging words. The problem is now compounded, for I find myself concealing Austin-L from my husband. Twice he has (walked in on me and) asked, "what are you doing?" "Who are you talking to?" Guiltily I respond, "No One!." Defensively, I add, "Doing just what you do. Why? Is that a problem?" Further, I add, "May I have some privacy, please!" Offended, he leaves the room. I am once again able to resume...
: Perhaps when the addiction bleeds over into REALITY, family life, it has gotten A LIFE OF ITS OWN!
: It's been almost 24 hours now since I last pertook. I'm feeling queezy. I must go lie upon my bed, weakly grab the remote and push, PLAY...... (Yes, PLAY ON! P&P2!)
: (I know, it's sick.) Tommye (P.S. My daughter and I are going back to see Emma again this p.m.)
My latest confession: all of my family left today for a three week vacation (I'm at home for job reasons) and for days now I have thought "No, do not put the video tape in, they will be gone soon and then I can watch it as often as I choose without any guilt." I took them to the airport this afternoon. When I arrived home, I immediately fixed a pot of coffee, broke out the chocolate chip cookies and watched the first two tapes. I did not hold the remote control in my hand so that I could stop it at the first sound of a footfall entering the room, for there was no one to interupt me. Ah, bliss. And just think of all the guilt free viewings I can enjoy in three weeks! I wish you could all join me!
Cheryl
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Posted by Cheryl on September 22, 1996 at 19:26:48:
: : : 1) Name- Cheryl
: : : 2) Occupation- piano teacher and church music director
: : :.
: Hi, Cheryl. I play the piano and have been an assistant worship leader. Have you ever seen Jane Eyre with Timothy Dalton (BBC production)? Tommye
Tommye, send me a note off this BB. I'd love to talk to you more, you seem a kindred spirit (have you read Anne of Green Gables?), but am concerned about cluttering up the list. My address is: clsneed@ix.netcom.com
Thanks! Cheryl
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Posted by Sarah on September 22, 1996 at 19:31:19:
: Anyone interested in learning or practicing HTML? I am not a bad teacher, even over email and sure could use a little help formatting the bios here.
: Amy
Amy,
I would really like to help you - but you would be dealing with a REAL novice - i am very interested in learning if you want to teach!!!
Sarah
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Posted by Cheryl on September 22, 1996 at 19:33:56:
:
: : Cheryl and Dolores:
: : I have not counted your remarks as votes for A Month in the Country? Should I?
: :
: : : : Cheryl
: : : : How about "A Month In the Country?" When was it made?
: :
: : >>Dolores:
: : >>It's now one of my favorite films... gentle, understated,
: :
: : Amy
: Actually, that was my remark. I'm knew at this and probably put my comment in the wrong place! Yes, I vote for "A Month in the Country."
: Tommye
I believe I already voted for Enchanted April
Cheryl
Posted by Ann on September 22, 1996 at 19:40:01:
: : After 8+ viewings of A&E's P&P, 6 of 95's "Persuasion," and 3 (going on 4) of "Sense & Sensibility," I have reached several conclusions. (1) I am addicted; (2) I am not ready to ask for help; (3) "but, I like 5 hour movies, and, anyway, it's not a movie, it's REAL!"(4)There are so many parallel themes and commonalities in these stories that one simply must conclude that Jane had an unresolved first encounter love and set about to reach acceptable closure time and again through fantasy, since her real encounter ended prematurely to her sorrow; (5) I love Jane's mind, wit and wish she were here today.
: : (6) I am torn. Mr. Darcy had my heart, but alas, I've become most fond of the military. The intensity of Capt. Wentworth has won me over; though, perhaps, Col. Brandon's sensitivity intrudes upon my once-impenetrable shell. Is there help for me?
: :I'm sure that there is help out there for us poor Austen addicts, but who would want it? I know I don't, although my roommates are willing to chip in the money for therapy.
: I don't think I would choose Mr. Darcy over Captain Wentworth, but then, I admit that I am a little biased (I've only seen Persuasion once, but I've seen Pride and Prejudice...well, a lot.)
: I think I'm going to rerent Persuasion over the weekend because I don't remember it very well.
: Annie
I wonder why they put a Harlequin Romance cover on the video.
There is a Fabio like picture on the front--with two people
who are not even in the movie. On the back there is a similar
picture with Wentworth and Anne. I did a double take and then
burst out laughing when I saw it.
Ann
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Posted by Ann on September 22, 1996 at 19:43:40:
: Thank you, Cheryl, for your note! For a while, I was thinking I was the ONLY ONE! Everyone was intellectualizing so; they didn't seem to be connecting. I admit, too, that (even last night) I watched the last 1 and 1/3 hours again, after having also watched it the day before. Yes, I conceal the fact from family members.!
Oh! The delicious shame of it all!!!
Ann
Posted by Stefanie on September 22, 1996 at 19:57:07:
: Katherine
: "I cannot fix on the hour,or the spot, or the look, or the words which laid the foundation. It is too long ago. I was in the middle before I knew that I had begun"
Well said!
Stefanie
Posted by Ramona on September 22, 1996 at 20:49:08:
: : : : 1) Name- Cheryl
: : : : 2) Occupation- piano teacher and church music director
: : : :.
: : Hi, Cheryl. I play the piano and have been an assistant worship leader. Have you ever seen Jane Eyre with Timothy Dalton (BBC production)? Tommye
: Tommye, send me a note off this BB. I'd love to talk to you more, you seem a kindred spirit (have you read Anne of Green Gables?), but am concerned about cluttering up the list. My address is: clsneed@ix.netcom.com
: Thanks! Cheryl
I have read Anne of Green Gables. The mini-series from 1985 and its 1987 sequel "Anne of Avonlea" reigned as my favorite shows until P&P2 came along. I also spent some time leading music at my church before my second child was born. I love music.
If either of you care to email me I am:
Ramona
oasis@tir.com
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Posted by Ramona on September 22, 1996 at 20:58:29:
: I wonder why they put a Harlequin Romance cover on the video.
: There is a Fabio like picture on the front--with two people
: who are not even in the movie. On the back there is a similar
: picture with Wentworth and Anne. I did a double take and then
: burst out laughing when I saw it.
: Ann
I saw the picture you are referring to in a video catalog. Not having seen the movie yet nor reading the book I expected this to represent the main characters. When my friend rented Persuasion I watched it and kept waiting for the main character to come out. When I realised Anne was the plain one, I kept waiting for her to put a touch of makeup on during one of her looks in the mirror. This really had confused me. If there had been an accurate promo picture for the movie I would have known what to expect and not minded, but it just threw me off balance.
Thankfully I have since read the book and watched the movie again and have begun to see a pure loveliness in "plain" Anne's looks. Or moreso her beauty of character increases her loveliness on the outside.
I wondered who decided on that "Harlequin" cover. I think it is a mistake. For if it is for marketing sake anyone who gets the video will be confused/dissappointed if they hadn't known what to expect.
Posted by Donna on September 22, 1996 at 21:08:23:
I thought some wrote that they wanted to buy Persuasion.
I bought it for $20.99. I know it is for rent but it isn't
for sale yet.
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Posted by Patricia on September 22, 1996 at 21:48:44:
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: 1) Name-
:Patricia 2) Occupation-
:substitue teacher/mother 3) When you first saw P&P2-
:Jan 96 4) How did you find out about it?
:Cable guide 5) What interested you in seeing it?
:Long time Austen fam 6) Have you read the original novel?
:Many times! 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie?
:Several times before and a few times since 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.)
:Jane and Mr. and Mrs. Bennett 9) Favorite scene/sequence
:Iwould say the first proposal scene at Lambton and the chance meeting at Pemberely in the gardens 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrasse/Certainly the dinner at Netherfield
Posted by Amy on September 22, 1996 at 22:22:59:
I learned only today that the Firthlisters have been trashing us, or me or this board or something. I don't read the digests everyday and missed the damning posts. Anna-Karin or Laura, pray write and tell the nature of this slander for I am quite astonished to hear of it.
Are we too uneducated in Firthlore? Too prissy? I don't understand. I have always enjoyed reading the posts there and have delighted in the difference from this place in style, tone, character. Hurts my feelings a little. Please tell so I won't imagine worse.
Amy
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Posted by Liz on September 22, 1996 at 23:06:48:
: Here are the bio questions developed by Ramona that some of us answered 10 days ago or so. If any of the new people here would like to tell about themselves, please do. If not, okay too. I'll try to get the answers from the others in shape sometime over the weekend.
: Amy
: - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
: 1) Name- Liz (Elizabeth) Fisher
: 2) Occupation- Student
: 3) When you first saw P&P2-
: 4) How did you find out about it? A friend of my mom's
: 5) What interested you in seeing it? My mom made me (and I'm sooo glad she did!)
: 6) Have you read the original novel? Lots! I've seen too many movies that ruined the books, so that was the main reason why I didn't want to see P&P2.
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie? Before *and* after
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.) Mr. Bennet
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence - Either Mr. Darcy's 1st proposal, the swordfighting scene, or any with Mr. Darcy vs Miss Bingley
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)- Mr. Collins proposing to Lizzie
: 11) Other Austen films viewed- "Emma", but I'd like to see the other two shortly
: 12) Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)- Besides Jane Austen, I'm a big horse fan (got one of my own!), love movies of all kinds, and am 14 years old.
Posted by Valerie Rademacher on September 22, 1996 at 23:44:09:
: Stefanie said:
: I think that most library systems also carry this version. I know that mine does.
: And Tomeye said:
: PP1 can be purchased for $25 from Saturday Matinee movie store chain, usually in the malls. If they can get it, I'm sure Blockbuster and the others can, too.
: Sheesh. As Emma might say, This democracy nonsense can be so tiresome!
: So what's the thrust? Are you two just pointing out that P&P1 can be had if one wants to have it? Or are you voting for it/advocating it be kept as a nomination? Want to keep it in, and if it gets picked, help the others with suggestions about where to find it?
: Amy
check www.fusionvideo.com I just ordered it over the phone for about 30.00 (add for shipping).
Not a great price but it is in stock. Their 800 number is on their web page. They have a
catalog of British films/series.... It will make any Anglo-videophile drool.
Posted by Dolores on September 23, 1996 at 00:04:32:
: Cheryl and Dolores:
: I have not counted your remarks as votes for A Month in the Country?
Yes Amy, take my message as a vote for A Month in the Country.
Also, I apologize to Tommye and Cheryl (a Singin' in the Rain fan, like me). I'm the one who messed up the names in the message. I'll learn cutting & posting after a while.
Dolores
Posted by Ann2 on September 23, 1996 at 01:05:08:
: :
: :
: : That's okay, Ann. It's the content that counts. Stick around and you'll get it.
: : Amy
: Hey it's not me it's Ann2 who is doing all the shouting!
: Ann (1)
Sorry about my bad manners.I did not mean to shout and I certainly
regret my error in quoting Darcy wrong (from memory) no book and no video
present where I sat. The fact is that I was quite overwhelmed after discovering
this group of fellow addicts. Up to now I have been using the balm of "Firth fantasies"
to cool(?) my mind!
Ann2
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