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No consensus


Posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 22:07:18:


In Reply to: See a movie posted by Amy on September 10, 1996 at 22:21:35:


So what's it going to be? We should decide today. I am glad we will have a few watching.

No consensus, though. This is worse than ordering pizza? Final arguments? New votes in before 2, then we will decide before 5 Eastern Friday. Steve's additional suggestions are fine too. I'll always watch any Forster adaptation (... except, maybe I am not always in the mood for Maurice).

Amy


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Re: Puzzling attachment to Persuasion


Posted by Johanna on September 12, 1996 at 22:14:30:


In Reply to: Puzzling attachment to Persuasion posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 22:01:25:

Persuasion, for me, has some truely wonderful cinematography. It conveys the sense of isolation and remorse Anne Elliot feels. I think it is part of the character of the story. I like like the lushness of the era (as conveyed in other films), but Persuasion, visually, and on several levels, viscerally, conveyed a sense of lost youth, wasted time and unrequited emotion. I also like the plain Amanda Root. No hollywood glitz or precocity here, she's so right for the part it hurts to watch her! So, that's me-o!
Johanna


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Sorrow floats


Posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 22:26:20:


In Reply to: Re: See a movie posted by Steve on September 12, 1996 at 11:20:05:


>>: What? You mean you're related to John Irving [snicker] and didn't mention "The World According To Garp" or "Hotel New Hampshire"?

You can probably guess I love those as well. But I must say, he went over my line in Hotel New Hampshire with the incest. I would love to see a movie made of Cider House Rules.

One of the inventions I most admire in any novel was in (I think) The Water Method Man, where the grad student is translating an epic poem in Old Low Norse. He begins with ambition and a commitment to quality, but at some point realizes that nobody else on the planet knows how to read Old Low Norse, and begins to make things up.

>>: What about "Shadowlands"?

Another good one. We also might want to consider Hopkins in August, a 1995 adaptation of Chekov's Uncle Vanya.

>>: Nice idea, Amy ...kind of a late-90s cyber thing to do.

Thanks; I hope it works. Think we ought not to talk about it here until a certain time, like on Sunday? Or doesn't it matter to anybody?

Amy


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Maugham


Posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 23:37:20:


In Reply to: Re: See a movie "together?" posted by Arnessa on September 12, 1996 at 01:18:37:

Arnessa voted:
>: Let's see The Razor's Edge. Is it based on the novel by W. Somerset Maugham? I read it a while ago, but I didn't know there was a movie.


Late 40s? Early 50s, maybe. Tyrone Power, Herbert Marshall as Maugham, Gene Tierney, Clifton Webb, John Payne, Anne Baxter (who may have won supp actress for it).

Never liked Tyrone Power in anything but this, where he plays hero as seeker and extraordinary ordinary person, in just the same way George Eliot describes Dorothea in Middlemarch.

>> And Maugham was a great fan of Austen, you know. Though he did say he didn't think
: Austen had the capacity to "really love," whatever that means.

No, I didn't know. But he was gay, so he didn't know about some things too, and I don't think he transcended the homo/hetero barrier as effectively as say, Whitman. I don't think he liked women. None of the female characters is sympathetic except the most depraved. I like him anyway. I wish there was a movie of The Moon and Sixpence and I want Chris Christopherson to play Strickland.

Amy




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Can't do the movie decision coordination today -- volunteer?


Posted by Amy on September 13, 1996 at 06:57:45:


Sorry, I find I can't be around a computer this afternoon and tonight to facilitate the decision about the movie we are to watch virtually together this weekend. I'll be away from about 2 until 11 pm Central.

Would someone step up and get to a decision by whatever means works for you: concilliation, negotiation, bullying. Then just let me know what the choice is. I will watch whatever you choose.

Amy



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Re: No consensus


Posted by Laura on September 13, 1996 at 08:06:46:


In Reply to: No consensus posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 22:07:18:

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: So what's it going to be? We should decide today. I am glad we will have a few watching.
: No consensus, though. This is worse than ordering pizza? Final arguments? New votes in before 2, then we will decide before 5 Eastern Friday. Steve's additional suggestions are fine too. I'll always watch any Forster adaptation (... except, maybe I am not always in the mood for Maurice).
: Amy


Room With a View, Please.


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Re: Thank you/Persuade Me


Posted by eva on September 13, 1996 at 08:28:39:


In Reply to: Thank you/Persuade Me posted by Ramona on September 12, 1996 at 15:38:52:

: First of all thank you everyone for the response to the bio questions. I think we all are on much of the same wavelength.



: And now I am soliciting opinions regarding Persuasion (the recent film and the novel). The first time I saw the film I hadn't read the book yet and did not care much for it, because it seemed so bleak compared to P&P2. However I set to reading the novel, which gave me a better appreciation for the loveliness and depth of the story. And after that I viewed the film again and enjoyed it much more. It isn't very glamorous, but if anything seems more able to help us to relate to the people as they would be in that time period.


: I think something else that helped me warm up to the story was the high praise it has received from Jane Austen fans and the film critics on the Net. Now for the persuading part. Could some of you share why you liked the book and/or film so much?


Hi there, good thread! how funny, but my experience in discovering the beauty of this story was the reverse. i had read the novel back in high school, at a time when "autumnal love stories" did not register with my more idealistic views about romance... and plus the heroine was 28, how OLD!! now years later, at the ripe age of 26 ;-), i have a much more mature understanding of love and all sweet aspects of its manifestations...which is what drew me to the movie and story. Anne Elliot's character is sooo sweet and gentle, and it was great to see kindness and devotion get their just rewards! the actors and acting are superb in the movie, and i love the raw feel, the lack of glamour in a world that predates modern plumbing and other conveniences (i really doubt Regency Brits looked as fresh, clean and crisp as depicted in P&P2--not that i'm criticizing! i think the beauty and vibrancy of the colors, actors, sets, etc. played a big part in my enjoyment of this adaptation.)... i have seen Persuasion
numerous times (all right, not as much as P&P2!) and each time, nuances in the characters are always emerging. for example, i love how Corin Redgrave plays the vain Baronet, especially the scene where he has a hissy fit about Anne choosing to visit "a Mrs. Smith" over the Dowager (check out the ornate flowerings on his outfit! :-D ). i just feel that this movie, though it appears "plain" and "simple", has intriguing depth and underlying emotionality that if the viewer can tap into, makes it an incredibly satisfying story through and through. plus i now think Ciaran Hinds is such a hunk ;-) check out him and Amanda Root in another movie, "The Man Who Cried".
-Eva


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Re: Movie Version Books


Posted by Karen on September 13, 1996 at 12:04:37:


In Reply to: Movie Version Books posted by Susan on September 12, 1996 at 19:17:19:

: I just saw Emma and I can't wait to go back and see it again. It was beatifully photographed. I am now looking
: for the paperback edition with the movie poster on the cover but I can not find it anywhere.
: Can anyone tell me the name of the company that published this edition of Emma? I am also interested to
: know more about the book entitled "The Making of Pride and Prejudice". Does it contain pictures and
: information on the places where P&P was filmed? Any information regarding these matters would be very much
: appreciated. Thank you!!!!

The book has great pictures of the actors/actresses,
the sets, the costumes, lots of behind-the-scenes shots.
It also has a map of the sites--ones used and ones considered
for filming.


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Re: D----------y


Posted by Arnessa on September 13, 1996 at 12:23:22:


In Reply to: D----------y posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 18:25:42:


: Pssst. Hey, pal. Ever do any Tolstoy?


I read Anna Karenina. I liked it, but I confess I never could get into Tolstoy as much as Dostoevesky. And I don't think I'll ever have the courage to tackle War and Peace. I tend to like most Russian novels, though. The people at work tease me about it.

-Arnessa Anatolevna (if we used patronymics)


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WE WILL BE WATCHING ROOM WITH A VIEW


Posted by Laura on September 13, 1996 at 13:22:36:


It has been decided, we will watch room with a view and discuss later. I will not be around on Sat. & Sun. unless I hop on mom's computer.
Have fun, and no drooling over Rupert Graves, he's mine!!!:-)
Laura McCarthy


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Re: D----------y


Posted by Steve on September 13, 1996 at 14:17:49:


In Reply to: Re: D----------y posted by Arnessa on September 13, 1996 at 12:23:22:

:
: -Arnessa Anatolevna (if we used patronymics)

Any kin to James Arness?

Just curious.

Steve
The UnderToad


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When?


Posted by Arnessa on September 13, 1996 at 14:29:06:


In Reply to: WE WILL BE WATCHING ROOM WITH A VIEW posted by Laura on September 13, 1996 at 13:22:36:

: It has been decided, we will watch room with a view and discuss later. I will not be around on Sat. & Sun. unless I hop on mom's computer.
: Have fun, and no drooling over Rupert Graves, he's mine!!!:-)
: Laura McCarthy


On Saturday or Sunday? Should be sychronize our watches, so we'll all be viewing at the same time. Then it'll really be like a virtual theater!

-Arnessa


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Re: When?


Posted by Laura on September 13, 1996 at 14:47:34:


In Reply to: When? posted by Arnessa on September 13, 1996 at 14:29:06:

: : It has been decided, we will watch room with a view and discuss later. I will not be around on Sat. & Sun. unless I hop on mom's computer.
: : Have fun, and no drooling over Rupert Graves, he's mine!!!:-)
: : Laura McCarthy
:
: On Saturday or Sunday? Should be sychronize our watches, so we'll all be viewing at the same time. Then it'll really be like a virtual theater!
: -Arnessa


How about on Saturday night, that way when I go to mom's for laundry and free food I can hop on her computer and we can discuss.
Sound good to everyone.

Laura


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Re: Thank you/Persuade Me


Posted by Janey on September 13, 1996 at 17:01:00:


In Reply to: Thank you/Persuade Me posted by Ramona on September 12, 1996 at 15:38:52:

Ramona,
Thanks for bringing up a book and movie I love. The book was my favorite Jane Austen novel, although on recent rereadings P &P is hard to beat---and from the Austen-L, I am also appreciating Emma and Mansfield Park more than before). Persuasion has fewer details and plot intricacies than the other Austen novels, but zeroes in on Anneıs sense of loss and regret, at first painfully but ultimately with redemption . Not everyone has a major loss like Anne, but we can all relate to making mistakes or even sensible decisions that we later regret. Anne copes stoically on the outside, but is full of feeling underneath---we all know at least a bit what she feels like. I also love that she is an older and wiser heroine (although as I am 38, she still seems very young to me---but is certainly old in Austen-heroine terms, especially to be unmarried in those days). Elizabeth Bennet is full of spark and beauty, but Anne is a bit worn out, and her charm requires more character to appreciate. That sense that a mistake can be corrected--that Anne and Wentworth have a second chance at happiness--is irresistable to me. As far as heroes go, I like the way Wentworth works hard for a living---less time to fence and take baths than our Darcy.
As for the movie, the beginning would be a bit confusing if one hadnıt read the book, but I was transported into the book without anything to jar me out. I liked the way no one was Hollywood-beautiful, but more like people I know (I donıt know anyone as gorgeous as Firthıs Darcy, but I know men as handsome as Hindsıs Wentworth). Thatıs enough, Jane


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Re: dye or wig?


Posted by Anna-Karin Schander on September 13, 1996 at 18:17:23:


In Reply to: Re: dye or wig? posted by cath on September 11, 1996 at 11:18:25:

: : : Newbee
: : : Did he dye his hair dark for this character or it's a wig?

: : Yep - dyed his and made Jennifer wear a wig. Read all about it in "The Making of..." ;-)

: : Colin Firth appeared at Oxford last spring with other members of the cast for a panel discussion.
: There was some mention in the London Times about how little he resembled Mr. Darcy (Times Diary).
: Also, Benedict Nightingale wrote recently about works in production based on Austen that include
: 5 movies, 3 mini-series, 2 operas and 1 ballet-on-ice. I know the obvious ones, but does anyone have
: info on others?

5 movies!!!!!!! Wich do you include the ones already made sense and Sensibility,Persuasion and Emma are there more?
3-miniseries? I know 2 versions of Emma is being made. after all Jane austen only wrote 6 or 7 novels



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Background


Posted by Amy on September 14, 1996 at 06:09:54:


In Reply to: WE WILL BE WATCHING ROOM WITH A VIEW posted by Laura on September 13, 1996 at 13:22:36:

Internet Movie Database page on A Room With a View


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Rupert


Posted by Amy on September 14, 1996 at 06:42:35:


In Reply to: WE WILL BE WATCHING ROOM WITH A VIEW posted by Laura on September 13, 1996 at 13:22:36:

: Have fun, and no drooling over Rupert Graves, he's mine!!!:-)


Laura,

I guess I know I am really old now. I think I could see myself having more fun with Simon Callow than with this cutie.
Link:


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