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In Reply to: Emma Again posted by Susan on September 11, 1996 at 20:49:45:
Here goes:
In the 1972 Emma -- Mr. Knightley's name is clearly "George".
BUT...
in the latest version, do we not here Gwyneth Paltrow moaning,
"I HATE John" and "I LOVE John"??
Now - I know that Mr. Knightley's married brother's name is John...so ???
Doesn't Gwyneth mean to say "George"?
Which part does Jeremy Northam play, ANYWAY?
John, or George??
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In Reply to: Emma Discrepancy? posted by Marla on September 12, 1996 at 14:21:23:
: Here goes:
: BUT...
: Now - I know that Mr. Knightley's married brother's name is John...so ???
: Which part does Jeremy Northam play, ANYWAY?
She is referring to his brother JOHN in the sequence. Think, she recalls Knightly saying that he has to talk to his
brother on a rather delicate situation. If Knighly is sad she will love John because he is not for Harriet. If he is happy
his brother is in favor of his choosing Harriet, she hate hates John. Northam plays George.
hope this helps
In Reply to: Re: See a movie "together?" posted by Steve on September 12, 1996 at 11:20:05:
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: What was the one produced after "Room ...", with Emma Thompson and Anthony Hopkins? Named after a country house (?)
Are you thinking of Howard's End? I saw the movie Remains of the Day with Emma and Sir Anthony. That was an excellent film.
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In Reply to: Re: emma - What's your favorite scene? posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 11, 1996 at 22:42:58:
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: : I have viewed it twice. I can't help but smile through much of the movie. It is so funny, well-done and romantic. I also love the colors used in the movie and the whole look.
: I saw it twice, too. I was more attentive in details for the second time. You know those looks by Emma, Frank, Mr. Knightly, etc. :) :)
: : Jeremy Northam and Gwyneth Paltrow are wonderful and the rest of the cast is good too.
:
: First I didn't find Jeremy Northam charming enough to be teamed up with Gwyneth Paltrow. But I changed my mind as the movie progressed. Rember in the archery scene, his remark of "Try not to kill my dogs" with a teasing look !!!! And when Mrs. Elton tells him "Knightly, help her," he got kind of a confused but sympathetic look. And when he scolds Emma after the strawberry-picking picnic, "Badly done, Emma, badly done!" in a powerful voice... He's good.
: He is indeed "the thinking woman's pin-up." :) :)
: Newbee.
My favorite scene (well the one I just laughed and laughed at--since I didn't expect it) was when Emma is singing and Knightley is admiring her, then Frank joins her in a duet and you can see the instant awkwardness and displeasure in Knightley's face.
I also enjoyed the dance Emma and Knightley shared. Since it was the same music from P&P2 but danced in such a different way where the two kept being the only couple rejoining each other.
Not to be confusing to newbies, but for myself and others I would believe it to be helpful to begin referring to Emma, Persuasion and S&S in a numbering system similar to what we have developed for P&P. I say this because some bios contained Austen film info. intermixing the old BBC minis with the newer films and I couldn't tell which were being to referred to.
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First of all thank you everyone for the response to the bio questions. I think we all are on much of the same wavelength.
And now I am soliciting opinions regarding Persuasion (the recent film and the novel). The first time I saw the film I hadn't read the book yet and did not care much for it, because it seemed so bleak compared to P&P2. However I set to reading the novel, which gave me a better appreciation for the loveliness and depth of the story. And after that I viewed the film again and enjoyed it much more. It isn't very glamorous, but if anything seems more able to help us to relate to the people as they would be in that time period.
I think something else that helped me warm up to the story was the high praise it has received from Jane Austen fans and the film critics on the Net. Now for the persuading part. Could some of you share why you liked the book and/or film so much?
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Posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 18:25:42:
Arnessa wrote:
>>My other favorite author is Dostoevsky.
Pssst. Hey, pal. Ever do any Tolstoy?
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Posted by Matthew on September 12, 1996 at 18:31:15:
: Quite a few people have said they adore Mr Bennet. Me too. Someone pointed out the scene where Mrs Bennet expects Mr Bennet to insist upon Lizzy marrying Mr Collins.
: Know what I would like to have seen included? The part of that scene where Mr Bennet orders her out of his study. His need to be sequestered is brought out in the series a couple of times (ie "Close the door, Lizzy" and "Your mother keeps to her room, does she? It makes our misfortune so elegant"). I would love to have seen Mr Collins annoying Mr Bennet by hanging around in the study too. No, maybe I couldn't have borne it.
: Amy
:
: Wish. Hmm. That's a nice word. Maybe our green ought to be called Wish Green, the color is so full of promise and wistful.
: Wistful and full of promise. Hmm. Good phrase for a pretentious dreamer character to say about a wine.
My two favorite characters in all of fiction are Elizabeth and Mr. Bennet. The kindness, humour, and mutual respect between them is unparalleled, in my opinion. And both roles were perfectly cast in P&P2. Guess you could call me a fan..........
Posted by Matthew on September 12, 1996 at 18:39:21:
: I've seen it three times. It's very cute and Gweneth Paltrow does a great job.
: But be warned, it's not the most faithful adaptation, I'm sure the mini-series next year from BBC/A&E will be better in that regard. Notwithstanding that, I recomemnd it.
You people are SO lucky! I live in New Brunswick, Canada, and Emma isn't here yet! We may get to see the mini-series before the movie! (Which, in reflection, might not be such a bad thing after all..........)
Posted by Susan on September 12, 1996 at 19:17:19:
I just saw Emma and I can't wait to go back and see it again. It was beatifully photographed. I am now looking
for the paperback edition with the movie poster on the cover but I can not find it anywhere.
Can anyone tell me the name of the company that published this edition of Emma? I am also interested to
know more about the book entitled "The Making of Pride and Prejudice". Does it contain pictures and
information on the places where P&P was filmed? Any information regarding these matters would be very much
appreciated. Thank you!!!!
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Posted by Steve on September 12, 1996 at 20:47:07:
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: Are you thinking of Howard's End? I saw the movie Remains of the Day with Emma and Sir Anthony. That was an excellent film.
Thanks, Ramona.
Posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 21:36:47:
Ramona proposed:
I would believe it to be helpful to begin referring to Emma, Persuasion and S&S in a numbering system similar to what we have developed for P&P.
Well, we might continue to follow the AUSTEN-L notation conventions for those of us who post in both places. No zero in that scheme, I don't think. Arnessa, Laura, HC, confirm or contradict. Is it:
Emma1 = 1st BBC
Emma2 = Current theatrical release
Emma3= Upcoming A&E/BBC Birtwistle mini
Amy
Posted by Amy on September 12, 1996 at 22:01:25:
Ramona probed:
>>Could some of you share why you liked the book and/or film so much?
I don't know if I can tell you why. Maybe the comments of others will help me discover the why.
I do know I liked the book better than S&S before either movie came out. And I know I prefer the longing, darker, brooding nature of the film over the S&S and Emma films, which were designed to be frolicks first and foremost, I think, to engage a mass audience.
Amy
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