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In Reply to: Re: About that shade of green some of us like so much posted by Laura on September 11, 1996 at 09:15:29:
: Would we say that colour is more of a mint green rather than a pastel green?
Mint enters into the description, yes. I think so. What would you see to terming it a dusky mint?
Though that rather conjures up a nice chocolate-covered mint (my favorite candy, especially refrigerated) sitting out on a bannister forgotten, dusty and inedible. Sad thought, no?
Amy
In Reply to: BIOS: questions for your consideration posted by Ramona on September 08, 1996 at 15:11:13:
: Here is the promised questions for your consideration. I will followup with my own answers.
: 1) Name- Laura McCarthy
: 2) Occupation- Admin Asst
: 3) When you first saw P&P2- March 1996 (poor quality tape, though)
: 4) How did you find out about it? Read the book in January, friend at work told me about the mini-series and lent me her tape
: 5) What interested you in seeing it? Just read the book
: 6) Have you read the original novel? see above
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie? before
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.) MR BENNET, I loved him.
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence Pemberley, Pemberley, Netherfield Ball
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)- When Darcy comes back to Rosings after Lizzy said no to the proposal, he looked so haggard.
: 11) Other Austen films viewed- All
: 12)Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)- Single mom with Beautiful 5 yr old daughter who is also a huge JA fan. She wants me to read P&P to her. I will in the winter.
In Reply to: Re: Dance Scene - more questions of ball dance posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 10, 1996 at 18:50:31:
: : :
: :[snipped]
:
: : One more time the big dance withe Lizzy and Darcy is Mr Beveridge's Maggot. Boy maybe they should just re-release the record that way everyone would know it. Personally I would not mind learning the dance it does look like fun. And for really astute Austen fans it is the same dance in the new Emma with Jeremy Northam and Gywneth Paltrow. They do the same dance but more lighter.
: : Laura
: I found Gwyneth Paltrow's dancing posture and movements to be somewhat awkward.
: What is the dance step/movement called? Was that popular during the Regency period?
: Newbee.
Hi Newbie,
I am a newbie too, but I just register with Enc.Britannica
and found some information on country dance they the step to
the Lizzie and Darcy dance I think;
courante{latin to run} as a court it was slowed down with small
forward and backward steps,later subdued to statley glides. Each
couple held hands to move forward and backward or
dropping hands to face each other or turn. In its early court
form the dance was preceded by a wooing pantomime
for three couples. It sort of sounds like the dance.
Cath reported:
>>> Benedict Nightingale wrote recently about works in production based on Austen that include
5 movies, 3 mini-series, 2 operas and 1 ballet-on-ice. I know the obvious ones, but does anyone have
info on others?
That's getting excessive wouldn't you say? I don't want Austenmania to go any farther than it has.
I posted a link to the real opera (not the mock net one) a couple weeks ago, but neglected to put the link on the FAQ. I will remedy that soon.
Spare me the ice rendition.
For that matter, spare me the movies. Would that we could petition the UN for a resolution to force all prospective Austen producers to pool their funds and make only mini-series with all the decisions made by our P&P gang -- nice and long like Brideshead Revisted with every bit of everything the author had to say left in.
Amy
In Reply to: Re: Dance Scene posted by Amy on September 10, 1996 at 11:44:02:
:
: Kathy asked:
: Does anyone know the music at : the big dance scene with Lizzie and Darcy
: Posted by Amy on August 31, 1996 at 21:01:55:
: Reposted from the Austen-L list with Beverly's permission:
:
: Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 23:06:45 -0400
: From: Beverly Francis <BHFrancis@AOL.COM>
: Subject: "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" and Other Country Dances: There have been several recent inquiries about "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" and
: country dance style. Readers in North America may be interested to know that
: the Country Dance and Song Society is an excellent source of information and
: materials about English and American music and dance. The Society is an
: umbrella group for numerous local dance groups in the US and Canada. You can
: find out if there is country dancing in your area by contacting CDSS at 17
: New South Street, Northampton, MA 01060. Telephone: (413) 584-9913. CDSS
: maintains a web page at http://www.cdss.org.: Mr. Beveridge was a dancing master active in London in the 1690's and early
: 1700's. "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" is a whim or fancy in his honor, although
: it is not known whether he actually composed the dance. The music is written
: in 3/2 time, a fairly common time signature for that period. Dancers would
: take three steps to each bar of music, but the steps are very smooth and
: even, which is quite different from the "long-short-short" steps of the 3/4
: time waltz of the 19th century. There are at least two modern
: interpretations of the Playford notation that are taught to country dance
: groups today. The choreography seen in PP3 is an adaptation fairly close to
: what you would see danced recreationally today. The dance version in the
: current "Emma" starts out fairly recognizably, but then takes a distinctly
: theatrical turn as Emma and Mr. Knightley continually cast around the other
: couples to reach the bottom of the set. I can imagine why a modern
: theatrical choreographer would want to stage "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot,"
: because the dance firgures and the tune are both very elegant, but I wonder
: of a dance from 1695 would have been likely to be popular in the Regency
: period. Dance tunes and figures went through just as many evolutions of
: style and fashion as other forms of popular culture, and hundreds of new
: dances were published every year. In PP3 we saw Elizabeth dance "Shrewsbury
: Lasses" with Mr. Collins. This is a dance from 1765 (popular today in a
: slightly different form). The dance done by Lydia and friends in the
: backgound at the Lucas party is recognizable as "Pleasures of the Town" from
: the same time period. Both of these dances have tunes and choreography much
: more typical of the late 18th century than "Mr. Beveridge.": None of the recent film adaptations have shown how a formal ball would start
: with the minuet, a rigidly formal couple dance with elaborately controlled
: footwork and choreography, performed one couple at a time and sometimes
: lasting as long as two hours. The minuet would be likely to be followed by
: cotillions, usually in square sets (the predecessors of quadrilles and modern
: square dances). Then country dances in longways sets "for as many as will"
: would follow. A ball often finished with the dance "Sir Roger De Coverley,"
: which survives today in a more rambunctious form as the "Virginia Reel.": I wonder if there is someone on the listserv who can help me untangle the
: choreography of the "Boulangere" (the dance mentioned in Jane Austen's
: letters and by Mrs. Bennet in description of the Meryton Assembly)?: Beverly Francis
Beverly, I have tried to fine the meaning fo "Boulamgere" maybe you could
shed some light on the subject. In Letter of JA the Five Positions of Country
Dancing are these for the boulangeries or some other dance. Also would the dance
Mr. Darcy and Lizzie danced be called a courante. I probably should join the Austin
List but I don't know how to attach the message to register.
Donna Newbie Fan
Quite a few people have said they adore Mr Bennet. Me too. Someone pointed out the scene where Mrs Bennet expects Mr Bennet to insist upon Lizzy marrying Mr Collins.
Know what I would like to have seen included? The part of that scene where Mr Bennet orders her out of his study. His need to be sequestered is brought out in the series a couple of times (ie "Close the door, Lizzy" and "Your mother keeps to her room, does she? It makes our misfortune so elegant"). I would love to have seen Mr Collins annoying Mr Bennet by hanging around in the study too. No, maybe I couldn't have borne it.
Amy
Wish. Hmm. That's a nice word. Maybe our green ought to be called Wish Green, the color is so full of promise and wistful.
Wistful and full of promise. Hmm. Good phrase for a pretentious dreamer character to say about a wine.
Follow Ups:
In Reply to: Re: About that shade of green some of us like so much posted by Amy on September 11, 1996 at 11:21:28:
:
: : Would we say that colour is more of a mint green rather than a pastel green?
: Mint enters into the description, yes. I think so. What would you see to terming it a dusky mint?
: Though that rather conjures up a nice chocolate-covered mint (my favorite candy, especially refrigerated) sitting out on a bannister forgotten, dusty and inedible. Sad thought, no?
: Amy
Maybe we could start our own line of "Austen Colors" for the home, office, and especially wardrobe... Amy is on the ball here with her naming of color and most appropriate desctiption--J Crew better watch out.
Remember how particular Mr. Darcy is when he is dressing to go to see Lizzie at the Inn "No, the green one" for his coat or vest - i can't remember which - maybe this green could be something like moss-on-brick - conjuring up thoughts of a brownish,blackish,green (or maybe black eyed green!).
Sarah
Follow Ups:
In Reply to: BIOS: questions for your consideration posted by Ramona on September 08, 1996 at 15:11:13:
: Here is the promised questions for your consideration. I will followup with my own answers.
: 1) Name-Laura Fields
: 2) Occupation-Chapter Coordinator, American Red Cross
: 3) When you first saw P&P2-August 1996
: 4) How did you find out about it? It must have been a promo.
: 5) What interested you in seeing it? I have been a huge Jane Austen fan since I was 10 or 11. I loved the first P&P the BBC did.
: 6) Have you read the original novel? Several times.
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie? Before, during, and after.
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.) I can't believe nobody has said anything about Jane. While she is much quieter and more circumspect than Lizzie, her love for her family and Lizzie is wonderful to watch and read.
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence Of course the first scene at Pemberly, when Darcy is so disconcerted at seeing Lizzie. I love the way he asks after her family twice. But I must say that the look they share in the music scene at Pemberly would be hard to beat.
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)- Lizzie reading about Lydia's elopement
: 11) Other Austen films viewed- As I said the original BBC production of P&P; Sense & Sensibility; Emma. I can't wait to see what A&E do with their adaptation of "Emma"
: 12)Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)- Single, 30's, love travel and reading
Does anyone know the name of the short piano piece that Elizabeth played at the Rosings?
Is it a contemporary composition or did C. Davis use existing music?
Thank you ahead of time.
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In Reply to: Name of piano piece posted by Carol K. on September 11, 1996 at 15:21:38:
: Does anyone know the name of the short piano piece that Elizabeth played at the Rosings?
: Is it a contemporary composition or did C. Davis use existing music?
: Thank you ahead of time.
She played the first movement of mozart's piano
sonata A major K{331} . Click on Amy'FAQ page under
Friends of Firth.. Firthmusic "click".
Donna
In Reply to: Name of piano piece posted by Carol K. on September 11, 1996 at 15:21:38:
: Does anyone know the name of the short piano piece that Elizabeth played at the Rosings?
: Is it a contemporary composition or did C. Davis use existing music?
: Thank you ahead of time.
She played the first movement of mozart's piano
sonata A major K{331} . Click on Amy'FAQ page under
Friends of Firth.. Firthmusic "click".
Donna
In Reply to: 5 movies, 3 mini series and a opera in a larch tree? posted by Amy on September 11, 1996 at 11:53:45:
: For that matter, spare me the movies. Would that we could petition the UN for a resolution to force all prospective Austen producers to pool their funds and make only mini-series with all the decisions made by our P&P gang -- nice and long like Brideshead Revisted with every bit of everything the author had to say left in.
: Amy
Here, here! I think tha the most wonderful surprise was how closely this stuck to the book. And I do like Jennifer Ehle's Lizzie, after all, she conveed the intelligence and playfulness well. But I am sure that this topic has been discussed thoroughly rior to my bookmarking this page!
Johanna
In Reply to: Re: Dance Scene posted by Donna on September 11, 1996 at 12:06:38:
: :
: : Kathy asked:
:
: : Does anyone know the music at : the big dance scene with Lizzie and Darcy
: : Posted by Amy on August 31, 1996 at 21:01:55::
: : Reposted from the Austen-L list with Beverly's permission::
: :
: : Date: Fri, 30 Aug 1996 23:06:45 -0400
: : From: Beverly Francis <BHFrancis@AOL.COM>
: : Subject: "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" and Other Country Dances: : There have been several recent inquiries about "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" and
: : country dance style. Readers in North America may be interested to know that
: : the Country Dance and Song Society is an excellent source of information and
: : materials about English and American music and dance. The Society is an
: : umbrella group for numerous local dance groups in the US and Canada. You can
: : find out if there is country dancing in your area by contacting CDSS at 17
: : New South Street, Northampton, MA 01060. Telephone: (413) 584-9913. CDSS
: : maintains a web page at http://www.cdss.org.: : Mr. Beveridge was a dancing master active in London in the 1690's and early
: : 1700's. "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot" is a whim or fancy in his honor, although
: : it is not known whether he actually composed the dance. The music is written
: : in 3/2 time, a fairly common time signature for that period. Dancers would
: : take three steps to each bar of music, but the steps are very smooth and
: : even, which is quite different from the "long-short-short" steps of the 3/4
: : time waltz of the 19th century. There are at least two modern
: : interpretations of the Playford notation that are taught to country dance
: : groups today. The choreography seen in PP3 is an adaptation fairly close to
: : what you would see danced recreationally today. The dance version in the
: : current "Emma" starts out fairly recognizably, but then takes a distinctly
: : theatrical turn as Emma and Mr. Knightley continually cast around the other
: : couples to reach the bottom of the set. I can imagine why a modern
: : theatrical choreographer would want to stage "Mr. Beveridge's Maggot,"
: : because the dance firgures and the tune are both very elegant, but I wonder
: : of a dance from 1695 would have been likely to be popular in the Regency
: : period. Dance tunes and figures went through just as many evolutions of
: : style and fashion as other forms of popular culture, and hundreds of new
: : dances were published every year. In PP3 we saw Elizabeth dance "Shrewsbury
: : Lasses" with Mr. Collins. This is a dance from 1765 (popular today in a
: : slightly different form). The dance done by Lydia and friends in the
: : backgound at the Lucas party is recognizable as "Pleasures of the Town" from
: : the same time period. Both of these dances have tunes and choreography much
: : more typical of the late 18th century than "Mr. Beveridge.": : None of the recent film adaptations have shown how a formal ball would start
: : with the minuet, a rigidly formal couple dance with elaborately controlled
: : footwork and choreography, performed one couple at a time and sometimes
: : lasting as long as two hours. The minuet would be likely to be followed by
: : cotillions, usually in square sets (the predecessors of quadrilles and modern
: : square dances). Then country dances in longways sets "for as many as will"
: : would follow. A ball often finished with the dance "Sir Roger De Coverley,"
: : which survives today in a more rambunctious form as the "Virginia Reel.": : I wonder if there is someone on the listserv who can help me untangle the
: : choreography of the "Boulangere" (the dance mentioned in Jane Austen's
: : letters and by Mrs. Bennet in description of the Meryton Assembly)?: : Beverly Francis
:
: Beverly, I have tried to fine the meaning fo "Boulamgere" maybe you could
: shed some light on the subject. In Letter of JA the Five Positions of Country
: Dancing are these for the boulangeries or some other dance. Also would the dance
: Mr. Darcy and Lizzie danced be called a courante. I probably should join the Austin
: List but I don't know how to attach the message to register.
:
: Donna Newbie Fan
Beverly I found what it referred to as Boulangeries, The Baker it
must refer to the music. It was on H.C pages under
Gerenal Topics then refferring to balls. Is this the only description
of the dance steps. They are readable but not understanable.
In Reply to: Re: Friends of Firth mailing list posted by Amy on September 09, 1996 at 19:01:31:
I once was on the list. Somehow got lost. Can I get back on the list?
Has anyone seen Emma and what did you think of the movie?
Follow Ups:
In Reply to: emma posted by susan on September 11, 1996 at 16:35:05:
I've seen it three times. It's very cute and Gweneth Paltrow does a great job.
But be warned, it's not the most faithful adaptation, I'm sure the mini-series next year from BBC/A&E will be better in that regard. Notwithstanding that, I recomemnd it.
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In Reply to: Re: Dance Scene posted by Laura on September 10, 1996 at 11:08:51:
Well, here.
Laura had said;
>: One more time the big dance withe Lizzy and Darcy is Mr Beveridge's Maggot. Boy maybe they should just re-release the record that way everyone would know it.
In Reply to: Re: About that shade of green some of us like so much posted by Sarah on September 11, 1996 at 13:46:18:
Sarah said
: Remember how particular Mr. Darcy is when he is dressing to go to see Lizzie at the Inn "No, the green one" for his coat or vest - i can't remember which - maybe this green could be something like moss-on-brick - conjuring up thoughts of a brownish,blackish,green (or maybe black eyed green!).
Yes. Black eyed green. I like that a lot. I can see a narrow, maybe 1/4" bright to hunter green and black stripe for a vest. Actually, I would love to wear the guys clothes. Especially those long coats. They remind me of cowboys' dusters.
Amy
In Reply to: emma posted by susan on September 11, 1996 at 16:35:05:
: Has anyone seen Emma and what did you think of the movie?
I have viewed it twice. I can't help but smile through much of the movie. It is so funny, well-done and romantic. I also love the colors used in the movie and the whole look.
Jeremy Northam and Gwyneth Paltrow are wonderful and the rest of the cast is good too.
Also of note, I had just seen Clueless before seeing Emma along with two friends. We spent much of the time watching Emma trying to match up characters and situations. What a hoot!
Follow Ups:
In Reply to: Wish for more Mr Bennet posted by Amy on September 11, 1996 at 13:05:28:
: Amy
: Quite a few people have said they adore Mr Bennet. Me too. Someone pointed out the scene where Mrs Bennet expects Mr Bennet to insist upon Lizzy marrying Mr Collins.
: Know what I would like to have seen included? The part of that scene where Mr Bennet orders her out of his study. His need to be sequestered is brought out in the series a couple of times (ie "Close the door, Lizzy" and "Your mother keeps to her room, does she? It makes our misfortune so elegant"). I would love to have seen Mr Collins annoying Mr Bennet by hanging around in the study too. No, maybe I couldn't have borne it.
My mother was grievously disappointed that her favorite line of Mr. Bennet's "If any young men come for Mary or Kitty, send them in, for I am quite at leisure." didn't make it into this film.
Joan, too
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