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In Reply to: Re: Jane Austen Page Links- Are there newsgroups/discussion groups? posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 10, 1996 at 19:39:21:
That's spelled "newbie" ;-)
: Do you know any newsgroups or discussion groups relating to JA's works?? I read somewhere there was. The on-line article quoted the "discussion group" member's remark, "Water, water everywhere - not a drop of Miss Lizzy ... "
I'm not sure which on-line article you're referring to, but the AUSTEN-L mailing list is discussed in the file linked to below (if you join in the next few days, don't be surprised if the list is still in turmoil over "M---- J----").
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In Reply to: Re: Jane Austen Page Links- Are there newsgroups/discussion groups? posted by The Mysterious H.C. on September 11, 1996 at 04:13:51:
Great icon! :-)
In Reply to: Mr. Darcy's Ten-thousand Pounds a Year Income posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 10, 1996 at 19:27:33:
: The monetary unit one pound in that era is equivalent to how much of todays US dollars?
There's some information in the (rather disorganized) file linked to below; some information on living standards is near the end.
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In Reply to: Re: Jane Austen Page Links- Are there newsgroups/discussion groups? posted by The Mysterious H.C. on September 11, 1996 at 04:13:51:
Man, the additional traffic on AUSTEN-L caused by that topic has been discouraging for me. The volume was getting up there anyway, but this has put it over the top.
And the thing about AUSTEN-L is, I feel as if I must keep up and read everything, or not post.
Amy
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In Reply to: Re: Mr. Darcy's Ten-thousand Pound a Year Income posted by The Mysterious H.C. on September 11, 1996 at 05:09:54:
HC,
Lots of good stuff in the FAQ draft. Who else is contributing?
Amy
P.S. What about a CV summary or relevant publications listing for some of the Austen scholars on the list? What happened to Elvira?
In Reply to: Re: Lizzie's musical talents posted by Johanna on September 11, 1996 at 01:59:55:
This has been bugging me so I looked it up. Lizzy played and sang at the party at Lucus Lodge on Charlotte's urging.
Amy
In "The Making" book Carl Davis says he played all the piano performances himself.
I should like to critique his "acting."
Amy
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In Reply to: See a movie "together?" posted by Amy on September 10, 1996 at 22:21:35:
: Anyone interested in watching a movie virtually together over the weekend, and talking about it next week?
: I'm open for suggestions but here are some ideas:
:
: Amy
I have a copy of twelve angry men--as it is one of my favorites. Back in high school my english class did a read through of the script and then watched the movie. That would be my choice.
In Reply to: See a movie "together?" posted by Amy on September 10, 1996 at 22:21:35:
: Anyone interested in watching a movie virtually together over the weekend, and talking about it next week?
: I'm open for suggestions but here are some ideas:
:
In Reply to: About that shade of green some of us like so much posted by Amy on September 10, 1996 at 17:58:00:
: You know that particular green we like in the ladies' jackets at the inn at Lambton and in the decorating at Hunsford?
: Well here's a cheap way to get that color in your life. Do not drive by your local Target store without checking to see if they have what mine has: flat crocheted shoes in just that color for $4.00. I like mine so well I am going to get another pair for when they wear out.
: Amy
Would we say that colour is more of a mint green rather than a pastel green?
Laura
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In Reply to: See a movie "together?" posted by Amy on September 10, 1996 at 22:21:35:
: Anyone interested in watching a movie virtually together over the weekend, and talking about it next week?
: I'm open for suggestions but here are some ideas:
:
: Amy
Ooooh, I just loved a Room with a View, As I absolutely adore Rupert Graves!!(no I still have a huge spot in my heart for Colin Firth!!). Rupert Graves is just sooooo young looking in this flick and Helena Bonham-Carter (Crispins cousin) is also in it.
Laura
In Reply to: Carl Davis a stilted actor posted by Amy on September 11, 1996 at 07:14:33:
Amy:
You may have a point, but as someone who has played piano for years, I've come to
realize that for those who have never taken lessons, pretty much everything sounds good!
In other words, unless your ear is trained, you won't recognize the mistakes or wrong notes (unless of course
the pianist is completely flubbing it).
But that's why I think Carl Davis prepped these musical pieces in the way that he did.
The "Georgiana slip" in particular may have sounded phony and planned to you - but
I think he did that intentionally...to make the emphasize the moment and to make it
very obvious that she was distracted while playing.
But in general, I wasn't impressed with Carl Davis' musical interpretation on the whole. I mean,
I was especially turned off in the "Darcy takes a dip" scene. Listen to the music
in that clip! It is rising and sounds strained - which produces an atmosphere
of tension. I thought for a moment Darcy was going to commit suicide!
But then he recovers in the next bar and returns to the "happy theme" that he seems
to employ throughout the show.
The dances and piano music I had no problem with. But IMHO his original music
didn't always fit.
Even check out the opening theme as the credits roll - to me it sounds like 3 other pieces of
music stuck together!
In Reply to: What smile? posted by Amy on September 08, 1996 at 21:35:25:
Ohhh, you've gotta be kidding! The teeth action was PERFECT at the end.
Finally we get to see the "real" Darcy, one who can fully express his
emotions without fear.
I think the point of him smiling so broadly was to illustrate that he has finally pulled
down all of his emotional barriers and is ready to embrace life to the
fullest.
Good choice, Colin.
In Reply to: BIOS: questions for your consideration posted by Ramona on September 08, 1996 at 15:11:13:
Steve Stockdale - 42yr, DWM, seeking....(oops, wrong bio)
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I guess you guys want the P&P2 version. As it was I who, alone amongst this celebrated party, opined that such personal disclosures might amuse us all, my own compliance must imminently issue forth. As in, like, right now.
I also think this serves as an example of how what's important to some seems trivial to others. I can say that I would *never* have thought of some of the questions which Ramona suggested. But, remember I must that I'm merely interloping here amongst JA/P&P self-professed *addicts*. Who, I might add, seem more sane than the normal crowd I hang with, so I'll play. And to Ramona's credit, the answers to her questions have proved somewhat revealing of the authoresses thus far. Where are all the guys?
1) Name-
Steve Stockdale
2) Occupation-
Program manager for a large hi-tech company in Dallas
3) When you first saw P&P2-
Last month
4) How did you find out about it?
It was featured on the cover of the Sunday tv guide.
5) What interested you in seeing it?
I heard all the Jane Austen commotion last year with S&S, P&P, etc. And I dig chicks with British accents.
6) Have you read the original novel?
I've owned the book for 20 years, started it twice, but never made it past the second chapter. I'll try for a third shortly.
7) If so, before or after seeing the movie?
Not so.
8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.)
Famous French philosopher said something like, "If it goes without saying, it usually goes better *with* saying." So I'll say, Darcy and Lizzie, since IMO they represent such progressively independent attitudes, values, and character. And Mr. Bennett for suffering, with amazing good humor, the ultimate ding-bat wife who makes Edith Bunker look like June Cleaver.
9) Favorite scene/sequence
Not so much scenes as dialog. I've only seen it once, so forgive my impreciseness. Two lines really grabbed me. I laughed out loud when Lizzie talks with her father after Collin's proposal and he responds with: "Then you do indeed face a much disagreeable alternative. On the one hand, if you decline his proposal your mother shall never speak with you again. And if you accept his proposal, I shall never again speak to you." Then I was blown away by Lizzie's insight into the 'true' characters of Darcy and Wickham when she said (to Charlotte?): "One I fear has all the good. While the other all the *appearance* of good." What a great distinction!
10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)-
Huh? (just keep repeating, "it's only a movie, it's only a movie..."
11) Other Austen films viewed-
I was going to say none, but since somebody else claimed "Clueless", I'll do the same...(What-ever!)
12) Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)-
Divorced for 4 yrs after 14-yr marriage. 13-yr old daughter here in the area. From the Texas Panhandle, 'higher' education at the Air Force Academy in Colo Springs, B.S.-Humanities, played football for two years. Never killed anybody. (see current events - ugh!) Went through my mid-life crisis and therapy from '90-'93, now I be a happy camper. Partially due to my reading, application of and involvement with general-semantics. Now I'm on the Board of Trustees and devote most of my non-work energies towards it, when I'm not chasing unsuspecting pretty and literate women who like the Beatles and can't run very fast. Yes, I have an attitude, but if I don't have it....who will?
Joan, too, previously professed:
>I still love that old
>_New Yorker_ cartoon showing a dog sitting in front of his PC typing and saying to another dog,
>"On the internet nobody knows you're a dog." This is the one place where a person's ideas stand on
>their own merits. Nobody knows who has or doesn't have the right to say whatever. Wouldn't y'all
>be surprised to learn that I'm "only" a fifth grader? [grin] I can say I'm not, but you don't know
>whether that is true, either! hee hee hee
>
>So I'm afraid that you'll still have to evaluate what people say here without *really* knowing "who"
they really are... heh heh heh
Sure. I maintain it's important to recognize the tentativeness of our 'knowing' somebody via this medium. You don't 'know' that any of the above is true, just as I don't 'know' that Joan, too is really not John, Doo. Good point, Joan. However, I'd suggest that we similary exert a bit more tentativeness in our 'personal' relationships since we likewise never 'know all' about anyone...seen or unseen.
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In Reply to: Maggie flamewar posted by Amy on September 11, 1996 at 05:50:29:
: Man, the additional traffic on AUSTEN-L caused by that topic has been discouraging for me. The volume was getting up there anyway, but this has put it over the top.
: And the thing about AUSTEN-L is, I feel as if I must keep up and read everything, or not post.
: Amy
Yes, Amy, but at least she has not found out this bulletin board or else we would all be in trouble!! :) Who cares about smiley faces anyway? why does it take up the whole digest on Austen-L?
just my $0.02 worth.
Laura
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In Reply to: Re: BIOS: questions for your consideration posted by Steve on September 11, 1996 at 10:37:07:
>>>>However, I'd suggest that we similary exert a bit more tentativeness in our 'personal' relationships since we likewise never 'know all' about anyone...seen or unseen.
Ain't that the truth?
Amy
In Reply to: Re: Maggie flamewar posted by Laura on September 11, 1996 at 11:06:17:
: Yes, Amy, but at least she has not found out this bulletin board or else we would all be in trouble!! :)
Yeeeeeich. :|
AB
In Reply to: Re: dye or wig? posted by Joan, too on September 10, 1996 at 21:04:21:
: : Newbee
: : Did he dye his hair dark for this character or it's a wig?
: Yep - dyed his and made Jennifer wear a wig. Read all about it in "The Making of..." ;-)
: Colin Firth appeared at Oxford last spring with other members of the cast for a panel discussion.
There was some mention in the London Times about how little he resembled Mr. Darcy (Times Diary).
Also, Benedict Nightingale wrote recently about works in production based on Austen that include
5 movies, 3 mini-series, 2 operas and 1 ballet-on-ice. I know the obvious ones, but does anyone have
info on others?
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