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I just discovered this site this week-end. It's great!
After reading some of the earlier messages I thought I could add
a note about an inconsistency think I noticed in the production.
In episode 6 when Bingley came to call the first time,
the camera follows Jane's excited reaction. Then Mrs. Bennett
notices that Darcy is with him. The camera goes to Lizzie.
What seems odd to me is that Jane seems happy for Lizzie that
Darcy has come. In the book she's worried that Darcy's coming
will embarrass her sister, and even in the TV production she's
shocked about Lizzie and Darcy's engagement, saying she believes
that Lizzie hates Mr. Darcy.
Why would she be shocked at the engagement but happy on Lizzie's
behalf that Darcy has come to call?
Maybe someone else has a better idea about Jane's reaction.
Dolores
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In Reply to: P&P snubbed at Emmys posted by Kim on September 08, 1996 at 23:00:02:
:
I wholeheartedly agree. P&P deserved it much more than the Gulliver's Travels. I thought its script too preachy (though the Swift's work is preachy in nature) and acting by Danson failed miserably, IMHO.
I don't think the Academy even watched all the nominated titles.
But usually the networks' miniseries do have stronger standing than the cables' when it comes to awards.
Even after this injustice, I know and appreciate the true value of P&P. :)
Newbee
In Reply to: A&E re-cablecast posted by Amy on September 08, 1996 at 20:19:17:
: Somebody told us about this a couple weeks ago, but here it is again:
Thank you for the information. I hope to tape it this time unless my luck fails me again. Will 60 min. for each episode do?
Does anybody have information about broadcasting of A&E's Emma? I wonder who are going to play Emma & Mr. Knightly.
Newbee.
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In Reply to: Re: Favorite supporting character posted by Liz on September 03, 1996 at 23:28:14:
: : Whose your favorite supporting characters in P&P2. I would have to say mine is Mr. and Mrs. Gardiner because they are the only seemingly normal people in the whole place. I do however greatly like the performance of Mr. Bennet.
Me, too. The actor's portrayal of Mr. Bennet was remarkably well-done, IMHO. I love Mr. Bennet's clever humor and warmth.
Mrs. Bennet may be hilarious from the third person's view, but I would suffer exceedingly if she were my own MOTHER!!!
Newbee
In Reply to: Friends of Firth mailing list posted by Ellen Armstrong on September 09, 1996 at 16:34:14:
Ellen said:
There
: were some problems with the numbers of people joining until the
: new software was installed. There are no problems now.
I have hesitated to push the list though I recommend it enthusiastically when asked. I had the impression that the list members really did not want the traffic to increase much.
Amy
In Reply to: Re: A&E re-cablecast plus question about Emma posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 09, 1996 at 17:58:59:
: : Somebody told us about this a couple weeks ago, but here it is again:
: Thank you for the information. I hope to tape it this time unless my luck fails me again. Will 60 min. for each episode do?
: Does anybody have information about broadcasting of A&E's Emma? I wonder who are going to play Emma & Mr. Knightly.
: Newbee.
Kate Beckinsale (Hero in Much Ado About Nothing, and Flora in the new film--Cold Comfort Farm) will play Emma. Maybe A&E or the BBC sites have other cast information available. I will check them out.
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In Reply to: BIOS: questions for your consideration posted by Ramona on September 08, 1996 at 15:11:13:
: Here is the promised questions for your consideration. I will followup with my own answers.
: 1) Name- Lisa
: 2) Occupation- Currently studying for my CPA
: 3) When you first saw P&P2- August 1996
: 4) How did you find out about it? A&E Promos
: 5) What interested you in seeing it? I had read many articles on the invasion of Jane Austen in the movies and I was curious to see her work.
: 6) Have you read the original novel? Yes
: 7) If so, before or after seeing the movie? After. I was so captivated by the A&E production that the day after the last episode aired I went out and bought a copy. To my delight, I found that the television version remained faithful to the book.
: 8) Favorite character(s) (other than Lizzy or Darcy-as liking them goes without saying.) I liked every character and every actor's portrayal.
: 9) Favorite scene/sequence The famous unexpected encounter at Pemberley.
: 10) Most awkward scene to watch (or not watch because you feel so embarrassed for the characters involved)-
Netherfield supper
: 11) Other Austen films viewed- Persuasion, Sense & Sensibility
: 12)Anything else you would like to share (interests, marital status etc...)- I'm very happy to find there are many others out there who enjoyed the A&E production as much as I did.
In Reply to: Jane's Reaction to Darcy's Return posted by Dolores on September 09, 1996 at 17:34:03:
: Dolores asks:
: Why would she be shocked at the engagement but happy on Lizzie's
: behalf that Darcy has come to call?
Well, Lizzie did say to Jane that because of Lydia's disgrace no respectable man would want anything to do with them, and later that she was sorry that she ever told Darcy about Lydia's elopement, ending up by saying that she could not bear to think that he was alive in the world and thinking ill of her. Perhaps Jane interprets his coming (he being a respectable man) to call as an indication that their reputation has not been damaged after all and he is not thinking ill of her even though he knows the worst. She is always going to find the positive side of any situation.
Joan, too
In Reply to: Re: Darcy's First Name posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 09, 1996 at 17:24:44:
: I wonder whether Lizzy ever called Mr. Darcy by his first name (of course after the marriage). "My dear Fitzwilliam, ...." !! :)
: I like Lizzy addressing him "Mr. Darcy" with British accent.
None of the other married couples addressed each other by their
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In Reply to: Re: P&P Sweepstakes posted by Newbee fan of JA on September 09, 1996 at 17:04:31:
: : Well, definitely too late to enter. I just wanted one of those video sets... sigh. [snip] But I have never won anything in my life;
simply put, it's just another dream.
And of course if you *did* win it would be the books or the trip, not the tapes. And if *I* win it *will* be the tapes, since I already bought them. [grin]
Joan, too
In Reply to: Re: Connections to 20th century writers posted by Steve on September 02, 1996 at 23:28:37:
Steve mentioned:
>> I can only now proclaim to promise such a reply in the coming days, as my relocation allows.
You are quitting your estate, sir; or is it your warehouse to which you refer?
>>"I lived with the terrible knowledge that one day I would be an old man, still
waiting for my real life to start."
You said the Prince of Tides quote affected you. I said I could guess the circumstances. I imagine it was the Coach who said it. Probably your relfection had to do with your job or marriage (the Coach had both kinds of trouble) . You looked ahead one bad day and saw 10,000 just like it.
Amy
In Reply to: Re: The ideal weekend posted by Ramona on September 06, 1996 at 22:05:47:
Ramona offered:
> Well, don't laugh but it wouldn't be past me to create my own board game. I have done it before for my other entertainment interests in addition to making celebrity paper dolls.
Ramona....thanks for the warning. No need for you to post a bio - I think this tells me all aaaallllll I need to know about *you*. ;)
But, okay....celebrity paper dolls. I guess one version would be to match a celebrity with an appropriate type of paper. Off the top of my head, and with tongue on the side of my cheek:
o make a Vanna White out of crepe paper
o make a John Waybe out of cardboard
o make a Tim Allen out of construction paper
o make a Madonna out of a sanitary [snip!]
o make a Dennis Rodman out of a ... out of a ... nah, one is enough!
o make a John Goodman out of a paper plate
o make a Foster Brooks out of a paper cup
o make a Emma Thompson out of tissue paper
...
On the make,
Steve
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What a delightful surprise to find this site while
trying to satisfy my pathetic addition to P&P, JA
and Colin Firth. Does anyone know the music at
the big dance scene with Lizzie and Darcy (which
I believe is also the same music in the new Emma
where Mr.Knightly and her dance). Can someone shed some
light on the conversasion between Darcy and Lizzie
there "This is no very striking resemblence to your
own character" ? On A&E it seems like an insult,
but this couple is on their own wavelength and I
have trouble with much of their conversation
(as do some of the characters appear to as well).
It seems as though JA read a lot of Shakespeare as
her books end like comedies with everyone getting
married. I have recently seen the BBC/FOX/CBS
1985 video and it seems very similar in setting
and script to the 1995 version. The old Darcy
however is like a tree, laughable, I could not
like him!. I think the new scenes with "water,
water everywhere" and Darcy are important in
helping us like him!
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In Reply to: Re: new perspective posted by Joan, too on September 08, 1996 at 16:22:11:
:
: : 2. I would like some posters to try out an alternative way to look at messages here. It's a very alpha modification of the admin script, but allows you to check for the most recent messages. I've found it useful and will fix it up for everybody's use if you like it.
: Would this become an option that would ultimately appear in the "[ Follow Ups ] [ Post Followup ] [ P&P2 BB ] [ FAQ ]" line at the top of the page?
: I tried it, and think it would be useful as an option to use once in a while, but I had expected that it would contain all of the info currently appearing on the main page, but sorted by date and displayed flush left like this (hope I'm doing this right!):
:
Like Joan, too, I, too, expected to see the above. I personally would prefer a simple chronological sort vs by thread. (Especially when I start seeing various femail body parts take form out of all the indentured threads...)
But then, I know even fewer pearls than Joan, too, doesn't know. Only "Strings of Pearls" by Glen Miller.
Steve
Well today is Colin's 36th Birthday. And what a beautiful 36 years it has been. He is handsome, somewhat single, has a great voice (the accent just does me in) sexy brown eyes, plays a wonderful Mr Darcy. And now has millions of women swooning all over him. Boy! do I really like this guy or what? Oh yeah, Great Actor!! :)
Laura
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In Reply to: Re: Jane Austen Page Links posted by Amy on September 09, 1996 at 16:08:23:
: You are probably referring to Henry's page, link below. In addition to the messages here, which will go away, there are two permanent references: the links page and FAQ, both accessible via links near the top of the main page here.
: Isn't Lady Susan just the nastiest? Joan Collins -- though geting old -- ought to play her, don't you think?
: Amy
:
Thank you, Thank you, Thank you for the links!
"Lady Susan" is wicked. I agree that a younger Joan
Collins would be great, however, I would also be
interested to see Sharon Stone. "Casino" convinced
me she can play psychos to perfection.
Mary
In Reply to: Dance Scene posted by Kathy on September 10, 1996 at 09:40:13:
:
: What a delightful surprise to find this site while
: trying to satisfy my pathetic addition to P&P, JA
: and Colin Firth. Does anyone know the music at
: the big dance scene with Lizzie and Darcy (which
: I believe is also the same music in the new Emma
: where Mr.Knightly and her dance). Can someone shed some
: light on the conversasion between Darcy and Lizzie
: there "This is no very striking resemblence to your
: own character" ? On A&E it seems like an insult,
: but this couple is on their own wavelength and I
: have trouble with much of their conversation
: (as do some of the characters appear to as well).
: It seems as though JA read a lot of Shakespeare as
: her books end like comedies with everyone getting
: married. I have recently seen the BBC/FOX/CBS
: 1985 video and it seems very similar in setting
: and script to the 1995 version. The old Darcy
: however is like a tree, laughable, I could not
: like him!. I think the new scenes with "water,
: water everywhere" and Darcy are important in
: helping us like him!
One more time the big dance withe Lizzy and Darcy is Mr Beveridge's Maggot. Boy maybe they should just re-release the record that way everyone would know it. Personally I would not mind learning the dance it does look like fun. And for really astute Austen fans it is the same dance in the new Emma with Jeremy Northam and Gywneth Paltrow. They do the same dance but more lighter.
Laura
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In Reply to: Re: The ideal weekend posted by Steve on September 10, 1996 at 09:38:18:
: o make a Vanna White out of crepe paper
: o make a John Waybe out of cardboard
: o make a Tim Allen out of construction paper
: o make a Madonna out of a sanitary [snip!]
: o make a Dennis Rodman out of a ... out of a ... nah, one is enough!
: o make a John Goodman out of a paper plate
: o make a Foster Brooks out of a paper cup
: o make a Emma Thompson out of tissue paper
Make an Adrian Lukas (Wickham) doll from a "Hello, My Name Is" badge.
Hey, Kids,
I can't remember if we have talked about this before - when did Darcy ever hear Lizzie play and sing prior to the mini concert at Rosings? Col Fitzwilliam greets her at their first meeting at the Collins with "I understand you sing AND play" - how did he know? Was it just heresay like when Caroline "duck face" Bingley tells Darcy in the scene after dinner at Pemberly something about how they had heard of Lizzie's beauty before they arrived.
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