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Hi, everyone. I've been reading P&P for years but only saw P&P2 for the first time in the past few days. Needless to say, I loved it as much as people on this board seem to.
Anyway, I wanted to make some comments about casting because some of the actors/actresses were either very consistent (or not at all) with my preconceived notion of the characters. For example, I thought Jane was a bit too subdued at times and Bingley was excessively dorky. Mr. Collins and Charlotte were picked very well. The biggest discrepancy in my mind was Lady Catherine's character -- I always thought of her as someone slightly younger (anyone who's seen P&P1 knows what I'm talking about).
Oh, and on the subject of separating Elizabeth's character from Jennifer Ehle's portrayal -- I was already madly in love with Elizabeth's character from reading the book. Which isn't to say that Jennifer Ehle's performance didn't help either. :)
Speaking of which, does anyone else think she looks like a prettier version of Shannen Doherty?
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In Reply to: Casting comments, etc. posted by Jack on August 28, 1996 at 17:18:19:
: Hi, everyone. I've been reading P&P for years but only saw P&P2 for the first time in the past few days. Needless to say, I loved it as much as people on this board seem to.
: Anyway, I wanted to make some comments about casting because some of the actors/actresses were either very consistent (or not at all) with my preconceived notion of the characters. For example, I thought Jane was a bit too subdued at times and Bingley was excessively dorky. Mr. Collins and Charlotte were picked very well. The biggest discrepancy in my mind was Lady Catherine's character -- I always thought of her as someone slightly younger (anyone who's seen P&P1 knows what I'm talking about).
: Oh, and on the subject of separating Elizabeth's character from Jennifer Ehle's portrayal -- I was already madly in love with Elizabeth's character from reading the book. Which isn't to say that Jennifer Ehle's performance didn't help either. :)
: Speaking of which, does anyone else think she looks like a prettier version of Shannen Doherty?
This is the second time that I've watched this movie, I keep tuning in after the beginning and have so far been unable to tape it. I again that Jane seems a little "too gentle" but I really like Elizabeth. And you're right, she does look like a bit like Shannon Doherty. She has that classic, old fashioned appearance...a sepia portrait. Have you gone to see Emma yet? I am very excited to see what A&E does with it, by comparison. By the way did you enter the London Literary contest? I kept missing the address and E-Mail info, so if you have it can you reply back to your original message. Thanks! Shawn
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Hey, kids,
Has anyone noticed --- in part 3 when Lizzie and Jane are talking in the bedroom about Lydia - the scene starts in the bedroom (Jane's?), Lizzie reads the letter Lydia left for Mrs. Forrester and the scene turns into Lydia talking and explaining her elopement with Wickam. When it resumes in the Bennett house, Lizzie and Jane are in the sitting room downstairs. I noticed it last night when watching it on t.v., but have not gone back and checked it on my old worn out copy.
In Reply to: the making of p&p posted by Louise on August 28, 1996 at 16:11:50:
: does any one know where i can get the book 'the making of pride & prejudice'
Thanks to Amy I now know the best place in the U.S. to get that book:
JANE AUSTEN BOOKS
860 N. LAKE SHORE STE. 21-J
CHICAGO, IL 60611-1751
TELEPHONE 312/266-0080
E-mail JABooks@aol.com
If you want a catalog from them of all they offer just contact them. I emailed them and within two days received my catalog in the mail full of Jane Austen books (by and about her) as well as all the videos of adaptations and the Making of P&P!
I just went up tp our local mall and found What Jane Austen ate and
Charles Dickens Knew. It is a Touchstone Book published by
Simon & Schuster. Author Daniel Pool it was in the history section
of WaldenBooks. It also was the last one,plus I found the cd at
a local music store that is not a change. They have a computer info
center that list P&P music under show/movies. Everything else didn't
work composer, song title. You have to dig around a little. The movie
is at Blockbuster for $89.00. I hope this is of some help.
Donna.
In Reply to: Re: can't get enough posted by patricia verbeke on August 28, 1996 at 16:52:40:
I've been reading Emma for the last week or two, bit by bit, like sampling something delicious. And last night a surprise rerun of A&E's P&P, sometimes life just works.
In Reply to: Re: PRIDE & PREJUDICE posted by Janey on August 28, 1996 at 16:57:44:
Janey:
Since you bought the 6-volume set, is it true that there are some extra scenes that
A&E excluded in their presentation?
And if so, would you mind mentioning a few of them?
I've heard varying things from different people and just wanted to make sure.
If there are some missing scenes, then I'd be interested in purchasing
the complete production.
Otherwise, I'll hold onto my home-made tapings!
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In Reply to: Re: Our Wuthering Heights posted by Janey on August 28, 1996 at 16:16:02:
'kay, this all sounds great, but as far as I'm concerned, someone's going to have to
write the screenplay very carefully.
I mean, in the Olivier/Oberon version, the film ends with Catherine's death. But that's
only half of the novel!!
It'd be super to do a film version of the entire story, but insodoing, we'd
lose the Catherine/Heathcliff relationship.
What to do?
In Reply to: Re: Fabulous fashions (?) posted by Joan on August 22, 1996 at 10:49:52:
:
: Did anyone else notice that these low cut dresses do not appear in any of the other Austen adaptations such as Persuasion or
: Sense and Sensibility?
Good point Joan, and I agree.
Think back to the "piano scene", when Lizzie was performing at Pemberley.
She looked so uncomfortable and strapped into her dress that it
bothered me!
Empire dresses may have been a style of the day, but by no means was it
the "definitive" style.
Methinks that the costume designers could have given Jennifer something
a little more flattering to wear (for her body shape, anyway).
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In Reply to: Re: I think I am kicking it posted by Steve on August 28, 1996 at 15:50:33:
Oops! Sorry, I'm not use to this type of format for responding. When I originally said:
: What? You mean you WANT to kick it? You don't enjoy the wallowing, the obsessing, the dwelling? Then why are you doing it?
... I put the word "kidding!" in "<>". Guess the hypertext god saw those and sent whatever was in between them to I don't know where. Please note my previous response was meant in jest. To some extent.
Steve
In Reply to: Re: PRIDE & PREJUDICE posted by Marla on August 29, 1996 at 00:08:40:
: Janey:
: Since you bought the 6-volume set, is it true that there are some extra scenes that
: A&E excluded in their presentation?
: And if so, would you mind mentioning a few of them?
: I've heard varying things from different people and just wanted to make sure.
: If there are some missing scenes, then I'd be interested in purchasing
: the complete production.
: Otherwise, I'll hold onto my home-made tapings!
There is at least one missing scene which can be
found only in the boxed set. A friend brough over
her store-bought copy and showed it to me. It takes place at Pemberly after
Lizzie and her family have left. Darcy walks into the room, in which are Bingley,
his sisters, Mr. Hurst,and Georgiana. Miss Bingley
makes some superior comment about Darcy missing Lizzie
and Darcy abruptly exclaims "What!" angrily, and leaves the room. Perhaps to go to London?
In Reply to: Re: Casting comments, etc. posted by Shawn on August 28, 1996 at 18:46:03:
: : Hi, everyone. I've been reading P&P for years but only saw P&P2 for the first time in the past few days. Needless to say, I loved it as much as people on this board seem to.
: : Anyway, I wanted to make some comments about casting because some of the actors/actresses were either very consistent (or not at all) with my preconceived notion of the characters. For example, I thought Jane was a bit too subdued at times and Bingley was excessively dorky. Mr. Collins and Charlotte were picked very well. The biggest discrepancy in my mind was Lady Catherine's character -- I always thought of her as someone slightly younger (anyone who's seen P&P1 knows what I'm talking about).
: : Oh, and on the subject of separating Elizabeth's character from Jennifer Ehle's portrayal -- I was already madly in love with Elizabeth's character from reading the book. Which isn't to say that Jennifer Ehle's performance didn't help either. :)
: : Speaking of which, does anyone else think she looks like a prettier version of Shannen Doherty?
: This is the second time that I've watched this movie, I keep tuning in after the beginning and have so far been unable to tape it. I again that Jane seems a little "too gentle" but I really like Elizabeth. And you're right, she does look like a bit like Shannon Doherty. She has that classic, old fashioned appearance...a sepia portrait. Have you gone to see Emma yet? I am very excited to see what A&E does with it, by comparison. By the way did you enter the London Literary contest? I kept missing the address and E-Mail info, so if you have it can you reply back to your original message. Thanks! Shawn
Shannon Doherty! Please! It must be a guy thing for I see no resemblence what soever. I noticed no one has any comments on Colin Firth as the dark Mr. Darcy. I personally want to go on the record as saying he was absolutely fabulous! (no pun intended). Compared to Laurence Olivier's old version, he plays Mr. Darcy in the way Jane Austen pictured him. Bravo! Stephanie
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In Reply to: Re: Fabulous fashions (?) posted by Marla on August 29, 1996 at 00:19:46:
: :
: : Did anyone else notice that these low cut dresses do not appear in any of the other Austen adaptations such as Persuasion or
: : Sense and Sensibility?
:
: Good point Joan, and I agree.
: Think back to the "piano scene", when Lizzie was performing at Pemberley.
: She looked so uncomfortable and strapped into her dress that it
: bothered me!
: Empire dresses may have been a style of the day, but by no means was it
: the "definitive" style.
: Methinks that the costume designers could have given Jennifer something
: a little more flattering to wear (for her body shape, anyway).
I agree that the dresses looked uncomfortable in certain scenes.
I notice that the women looked as if their corsets were worn all the way to
their hips. Is it just the way their empire waist dresses fall or would their
corsets stick out a bit at the bottom? It almost looked as if they were pregnant.
In Reply to: Re: PRIDE & PREJUDICE posted by Marla on August 29, 1996 at 00:08:40:
Marla, Amy found a link that describes the missing scenes. I am going to try and post it here, but if I goof up, just go to the message Amy posted on 8/22 at 11:25 for the link. If I had homemade tapes, I would be happy (I still haven't bought tapes, just rented them from Blockbuster. It is a pleasure to watch tapes without the commercial breaks, though!
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I would love to have a P&P2 penpal! If anyone wants one to just write to me at my E-mail address!
In Reply to: Re: PRIDE & PREJUDICE posted by Janey on August 29, 1996 at 13:55:52:
Janey:
Thanks for the help, much appreciated!!
Too bad A&E had to cut these scenes though...I mean, transitional and
"insignificant" as they may be, if you're going to make a commitment
to air a 6-hour miniseries over 3 consecutive nights, what's 20 extra minutes??
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Guys, since we're all diehards here, I'll be frank:
You can not call yourselves TRUE P&P2 fans until you have purchased "The Making
of Pride and Prejudice" - by Sue Birtwistle and Susie Conklin.
I just reserved and picked my copy up today and was completely blown away with the
amount of trivia, information and pictures that have been compiled from this
miniseries!
Describing it won't do it any justice whatsoever...but let me try to point out a few things:
*lengthy discussion and description of the action "behind-the-scenes" of P&P2....
from the difficulties with casting to the making of costumes, wigs and the
many different cameras used!
*the famous "Conversation with Colin Firth" section...YES it is worth buying
the book just for that!
Lotsa photos...comments...background info..
*head shots of all the actors involved in P&P2 (I tell you, you won't recognize
Alison Steadman, who plays Mrs. B.!!)
*many quotes compiled from the actors themselves
*a full description of "a day in the life of P&P2" - hour by hour descriptions
of what is required on the set, off the set, etc.
*sketches of wardrobes, hairstyles, sets...
It is truly a must-have book. Well worth the $20 I paid for it!!
"The Making of Pride and Prejudice" will keep you reading for hours...and
will help us all with our little (ahem) addiction!
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Is it possible to get a biography on Both Colin and Jennifer via E-mail?
In Reply to: BTB - Buy this Book!!! posted by A Thoroughly impressed Marla on August 29, 1996 at 20:51:11:
: You can not call yourselves TRUE P&P2 fans until you have purchased "The Making
: of Pride and Prejudice" - by Sue Birtwistle and Susie Conklin.
: I just reserved and picked my copy up today
Marla,
Were you able to order it at a bookstore? Was it the British/Canadian Penguin edition still, or has Penguin US come out with it yet?
Amy
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