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If I have a boy, I will name him Darcy
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here's to Jane *toast*
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In Reply to: Darcy posted by Cristina Carlone on August 03, 1996 at 18:26:41:
: HI! I just want to see a picture of the man who played Darcy. Also, are the other actors and actresses in the movie poular only in England or have they been in any American movies? This is not my E- mail so could you just post the answer or something?
well all i want to know is what other movies was collin firth in before pride and prejudice....
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In Reply to: Re: How addicted are we? posted by Arnessa on July 31, 1996 at 00:54:19:
: Hello everyone. My name is Arnessa. (Say here "Hi Arnessa.) And I'm a P&P2 addict. It started off innocently enough. I read about the production in the paper, and since P&P is my favorite novel, I wanted to watch it. I work nights though so I taped the series when it was on A&E. I'd get home late at night and watch each episode. Then the next morning, I'd watch some parts of it over again. When I had the entire series on tape, I still couldn't resist watching it almost every night after work. I ordered the boxed set, but didn't open it for weeks. It sat on my shelf in the plastic wrapping as if part of a shrine. I was waiting for a special occasion to unwrap it. Then A&E repeated the broadcast several times, and each time I set my VCR. So I actually have about three copies of the series on tape (though there are commercials and some scenes are missing). I didn't realize the seriousness of my addiction until (sob) I actually started PUSHING the tapes on my coworkers and friends to support my habit. You see, I could no longer get the same high just watching the film. I had to discuss it with others who had seen it, so I had to create other addicts. I'm so ashamed. So I lent one of my tapes (I always had a copy on me.) to a coworker, another to a friend. Then when they returned them, I lend them out to others being careful to always keep a copy at home to watch myself. Well, some of my coworkers really picked up the habit quickly. One didn't return my tape for weeks. At work, things started to get out of hand. The people who had seen the film became outcasts in a way, talking a secret language, laughing at inside jokes. But it was great for a while. We got the idea to try to cast the entire film using people in our department. We assigned roles to coworkers who had personalities similar to the corresponding P&P2 character. We found we could fill most of them. We had a Mr. Collins and a Lady Catherine de Bourgh, if you can believe it. We even were able to cast Darcy's housekeeper at Pemberley. Naturally those who hadn't seen the film were a bit suspicious of all this activity and the roles they were assigned. Someone suggested a theme party where we'd all come to work one Sunday (I work weekends too.) dressed as our P&P2 role, though where we would have gotten Regency era costumes Heaven only knows. And who knows how far things would have gone, had not... Well, that's just it. I don't know what happened. The others were able to shake their addiction to the film after a time, but me, I couldn't. I still watch parts of the film at least once a week. I still can't get enough of talking about it. I still want to know everything there is to know about the actors, producers, directors, writers, musicians, costume designers, key grips, best boys and everyone else associated with the movie. So that's why I'm here. I need help!
well very addicted i own the movie and have watched it 6 times in the last 2 days i'm sure
In Reply to: here's to jane posted by Tom Criser on August 13, 1996 at 14:50:38:
>: here's to Jane *toast*
Bennet or Austen?
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In Reply to: Favorite Character's posted by L. Macaulay on August 13, 1996 at 13:42:43:
>: If I have a boy, I will name him Darcy
Not Fitzwilliam?
In Reply to: Re: Be a casting director posted by eva on August 13, 1996 at 08:36:57:
Eva nails it:
>
I could not argue against any of those choices.
How about Mr Collins for Charles Hamilton and Caroline Bingley for India Wilkes?
Amy
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In Reply to: Re: Another P & P comparison (sort of) posted by eva on August 07, 1996 at 07:56:57:
Eva said:
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: now i really have to get my paws on a copy of "Dutch Girls". i hear that Colin was not the most graceful of "disco-ers" :-)
I think I might be a little disappointed in him if he showed much proficiency at it.
Amy
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In Reply to: CD soundtrack and "Making of P&P" book posted by John McAndrew on August 09, 1996 at 19:51:07:
: I am so happy to have discovered the existence of this Web
: page (thanks, Amy) and from it to learn of the rebroadcast of P&P.
: I don't know if this is old news to fans, but a CD soundtrack
: and "making of" book have been released by EMI and Penguin books,
: respectively. I was able to purchase both here in Toronto, Ontario.
: If anyone needs the order numbers please feel free to e-mail me.
: The book is written by the producer (Sue Birtwistle) and,
: along with many photographs, details a day in the life of the
: production. The music is, of course, by Carl Davis, who, about ten years ago,
: did the music for a wonderful series about the silent films called
: "Hollywood".
I would like to know more about the book and CD.
thanx,
stephanie c.
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In Reply to: Re: Nothing attractive about Darcy? posted by Arnessa on August 06, 1996 at 21:59:31:
: : Ian says:
: : >Colin Firth plays him as a sulk to the point where we think there is nothing attractive about Darcy!
: : Well, I don't know about that.
: : Amy
: I don't know about that either, Amy. I'm of the opinion that one can never make too many excuses for Darcy's behavior in the beginning of the film and of the novel. Especially on the night of the Meryton Assembly, we must have just caught him at a bad time. Then, too, think how frustrating it must have been to be Darcy all the time. There you are, doing your duty, trying to take care of all your friends and family - OK, so you don't smile alot but basically you're a good guy - but whom does everyone like? Certainly not you. Your own father liked Wickham better than you. Your best friend Bingley gets all the attention when he walks into a room, no matter that he's not half as hot as you are. People immediately like Bingley while you're always giving offense though usually not intentionally. All that could bring a guy down. So can we really blame Darcy for sulking a bit and putting on snobbish airs? Perhaps the snide comment about Lizzy "not being handsome enough to tempt me" was a way of brushing her off before she had the chance to brush him off, as poor Darcy no doubt thought she would. Anyway, Firth brings us that side of Darcy, the side that's a bit insecure. Now I wouldn't say Darcy is exactly as shy as Firth plays him, but Darcy has his insecurities just like Lizzy. So I can forgive the sulking. And I like the big, toothy grin. Finally, at the end of the movie, he seems more like his 28 (?) years old, and less like a 75-year-old who has the weight of the world on his shoulders.
: Arnessa.
I think you have right in many ways. Darcy has had to take very much responsibility at an early age.He was only about 22 or 23 when he inherited the whole estate of Pemberly with a lot of peoples welfare depending on his management of the great estate.He may be insecure in some ways but he is shown to be a good manager of his estate and of his tenants and their affairs.So he must have had good abilities both in financial matters and agricultural ones.He maybe is insecure sometimes in more personal chit chat .I do not think that he was afraid that Lizzy would brush him of only bored and irritated he maybe would rather have stayed at home but has to go and is among in his opinion boring and vulgar people of whom he do not know anybody and Bingley is having fun with the prettiest girl in the room in spite of the fact that Darcy is supposed to be both richer and handsommer.I do not think that Bingley always got all the attention .You have to remember that Darcy was of an old distinguished family ( and nephew of an earl) very very rich and very handsome.Enought to make him a big prize on the marriage market. and that most young ladies he had met would have tried to capture him like miss Bingley does.One of the things that amazes and intrigues him is that Lizzy does not do that she even refuses to dance with him!!!! On has to remember that if he had wanted female company he with his wealth and position could have had it both respectable (a wife ) or not so respectable (easy ladies or a steady mistress) or both as was common in fashionable society of that time8maybe he had had some of it at some point but he was fastidious and apparently had strict moral wiews so we can assume that he had higher morals than most young men of his class even if he maybe was not totally innocent also unlikely for a young man of his class at that time..
In Reply to: Re: CD soundtrack and "Making of P&P" book posted by Stephanie Cantwell on August 14, 1996 at 19:46:29:
Stephanie sed:
>: I would like to know more about the book and CD.
The book is published by Penguin. When I got my copy, Penguin had not released a US edition so I ordered from the Jane Austen Book Store in Chicago. If I can find the bookstore's site, I will add it to the links page here.
As for the CD, it's very nice. It's all Carl Davis stuff -- none of the period dance or "ladies' performance" music. I left in somebody's car so I can't tell you what label it's on. But I got mine at Barnes & Noble (or Bones and Knarble, as my son calls it).
Amy
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In Reply to: Re: CD soundtrack and "Making of P&P" book posted by Amy on August 14, 1996 at 20:22:14:
I sed:
If I can find the bookstore's site, I will add it to the links page here.
Sorry Stephanie. I can't find it. Maybe I dreamed they have a web site. Or maybe the electronic exchange I remember was email. But I did find my catalog.
Jane Austen Books
860 N Lake Shore Drive
Suite 21-J
Chicago, IL 60611
312-266-0080
Fax 312-266-0081
Email: JABooks@aol.com
In Reply to: Re: By no means posted by Arnessa on August 13, 1996 at 00:34:14:
Arnessa, always thinking, sed:
>: I had a little different take on Darcy's line. I think he's mainly trying to tell Lizzy that he's really no more interested in her than she is in him. (Which is a BIG LIE.) And if he chooses to seek out her company again, it will be because, "he would by no means suspend any pleasure of hers." Recall the conversation just before this line. Darcy tells Lizzy "not to sketch his character at the PRESENT moment." And then Lizzy snaps back, basically saying, not so hasty if you please, you're assuming there will be other moments, but "if I do not sketch your character now, I may never have another opportunity" because I neither expect nor wish to dance with you, or be in your company ever again. But since gentlemen were the ones who had the power of requesting, she's basically saying to him, "Are you saying that you'd like to dance with me again? Do you expect or wish to have OTHER moments to converse with me?" And Darcy, realizing how much he has betrayed and perhaps angrily suspecting that Lizzy knows his secret, tries to backtrack, saying basically, if I choose to seek you out and let you know me better, it's to give YOU pleasure, not myself. I think this is a very clever retort. Hope this makes sense.
Ohhkay. I think I see what you're saying. I had never gone that deep with it. Course, so many of these exchanges can be viewed at a number of levels. Another multi-level example would be the Rosing's "we neither of us perform" transaction.
I like Lisa's take on it too, that's he's simply silencing her. He's saying, "Right. Fine. Whatever, Lizzie. Whatever you say." In this way he's communicating, "I'm not playing this game, Miss Bennet, and if I don't let you engage me in it, there won't be any sport left in it for you."
By the way, great graphic of Darcy, Amy. Thanks.
Hey. I do this as much to please myself as anything. It is kind of cool, though isn't it? I got so excited after I'd altered the B&W pic from the Firth page that I set the graphic as my monitor's wallpaper.
Amy
In Reply to: Re: Darcy posted by charlie on August 14, 1996 at 13:06:17:
Charlie sed:
>: well all i want to know is what other movies was collin firth in before pride and prejudice....
Lots really. Though some are hard to find. Link to the filmography page from the Firth site below.
Amy
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The MS-NBC site ran an article about Janemania online but for some reason took it down. Somebody saved it. Don't tell on her.
Amy
In Reply to: Re: Be a casting director posted by Amy on August 14, 1996 at 18:10:49:
Charlotte could play Scarlett's friend who first told her about Rhett Butler. Mrs. Gardiner could be Mrs. Ohara and Mr. Gardiner could maybe be Frank Kennedy. Of course Kitty or Lydia would make a good Sue Ellen and Mariah could play the other sister (I forget her name).
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In Reply to: Disco Darcy? posted by Amy on August 14, 1996 at 18:15:15:
: Eva said:
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: : now i really have to get my paws on a copy of "Dutch Girls". i hear that Colin was not the most graceful of "disco-ers" :-)
:
: I think I might be a little disappointed in him if he showed much proficiency at it.
: Amy
(sorry i can't edit too well)
i agree, it is much more important that Colin can ballroom dance... though have you noticed that Darcy is never shown dancing a reel or a jig--wouldn't want to seem like he's having a frolicksomely jolly time now! i'm glad they didn't include the scene where Darcy asks (seemingly out of the blue) Lizzy to dance a reel during one of the evenings when Lizzy stays at Netherfield. i recall this scene seemed very awkward in the P&P1 version--but then again, David Rintoul's Darcy was downright awkward PERIOD.
In Reply to: Re: here's to jane posted by Amy on August 14, 1996 at 18:04:57:
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: >: here's to Jane *toast*
: Bennet or Austen?
or better yet Eyre?
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I bet many people who read this bb have seen Emma by now. I won't give away any secrets in case you haven't, but I will tell you that the friends I saw it with actually preferred Mr Knightley to Firth's Darcy. I tend to think that Darcy (both as a literary character and as portrayed) has much more animal magnetism. I don't think Emma will replace the usefulness of PP2 as something to watch again and again, but I thought it was great fun!
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I bet many people who read this bb have seen Emma by now. I won't give away any secrets in case you haven't, but I will tell you that the friends I saw it with actually preferred Mr Knightley to Firth's Darcy. I tend to think that Darcy (both as a literary character and as portrayed) has much more animal magnetism. I don't think Emma will replace the usefulness of PP2 as something to watch again and again, but I thought it was great fun!
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