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In Reply to: Re: "fine eyes" posted by ID on August 06, 1996 at 08:13:44:
: Speaking of "fine eyes" how is Adrian Lukis' dastardly Mr Wickham's fine pair?
I did not care for that guy. I did like Mr Denny and Col Fitzwilliam though. I liked them very much indeed.
Amy
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This thing went fluey. I deleted some dupe messages in the thread you started about Jennifer Ehle's nationality and it wiped out the whole conversation instead.
Very sorry. Laura answered you, saying Jennifer is indeed a US citizen, and feels comfortable speaking in either an American or British accent. It does seem astonishing. At least for our age. But think about the Hepburns, Grace Kelly, any of those types who were trained to speak Bryn Mawr (sp?). Our Lizzie is simply out of her era.
Amy
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In Reply to: Re: Darcy posted by Amy on August 03, 1996 at 21:58:04:
: > HI! I just want to see a picture of the man who played Darcy.
: Hi Cristina. Try the Firth page, link below.
: >Also, are the other actors and actresses in the movie poular only in England or have they been in any American movies? This is not my E- mail so could you just post the answer or something?
: The Firth page can tell you about Colin. Also see my post called "Related fixes" for movies with Austen adaptation actors.
: Amy
Hi Amy. Thanks! I didn't know that this page exsisted, so it was nice to find it. It's great that the Victorian era stories have caught on. It's so romantic!
Anyway, I think Colin Firth is very handsome. thanks again!
What is the deal with the green boughs covering some slumbing tart as Mary Bennet sings about, and I just noticed in S&S, Mariann sings of some other young woman as "she lay sleeping." Are they dead? Is sleep in these lyrics a euphemism for a mournful untimely death of a fair maid? I don't understand.
Amy
In Reply to: Re: No kids at Christmas posted by The Mysterious H. C. on August 03, 1996 at 15:31:59:
HC said:
>Christmas day itself didn't
: necessarily have that much family ritual
: associated with it
Hmm... as a mom on a budget I say let's go back to that mode.
Amy
In Reply to: Nothing attractive about Darcy? posted by AB on August 03, 1996 at 11:43:41:
: Ian says:
: >Colin Firth plays him as a sulk to the point where we think there is nothing attractive about Darcy!
: Well, I don't know about that.
: Amy
I don't know about that either, Amy. I'm of the opinion that one can never make too many excuses for Darcy's behavior in the beginning of the film and of the novel. Especially on the night of the Meryton Assembly, we must have just caught him at a bad time. Then, too, think how frustrating it must have been to be Darcy all the time. There you are, doing your duty, trying to take care of all your friends and family - OK, so you don't smile alot but basically you're a good guy - but whom does everyone like? Certainly not you. Your own father liked Wickham better than you. Your best friend Bingley gets all the attention when he walks into a room, no matter that he's not half as hot as you are. People immediately like Bingley while you're always giving offense though usually not intentionally. All that could bring a guy down. So can we really blame Darcy for sulking a bit and putting on snobbish airs? Perhaps the snide comment about Lizzy "not being handsome enough to tempt me" was a way of brushing her off before she had the chance to brush him off, as poor Darcy no doubt thought she would. Anyway, Firth brings us that side of Darcy, the side that's a bit insecure. Now I wouldn't say Darcy is exactly as shy as Firth plays him, but Darcy has his insecurities just like Lizzy. So I can forgive the sulking. And I like the big, toothy grin. Finally, at the end of the movie, he seems more like his 28 (?) years old, and less like a 75-year-old who has the weight of the world on his shoulders.
Arnessa.
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In Reply to: Re: Nothing attractive about Darcy? posted by Lisa Warrington on August 05, 1996 at 19:01:10:
Lisa sed:
>> Darcy is a formidably intelligent and intensely private man who likes to keep his own counsel,
Lisa, I've a feeling as well that he is smart, but where is the evidence? He says he hopes his faults do not include lack of Understanding, but that's his claim. Do we just want him to be bright?
Amy
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In Reply to: Re: Nothing attractive about Darcy? posted by Arnessa on August 06, 1996 at 21:59:31:
Arnessa sed:
>Now I wouldn't say Darcy is exactly as shy as Firth plays him, but Darcy has his insecurities just like Lizzy.
Agree with about all you say as usual, Arnessa.
Funny about the insecurities. It's part of what warms us to him. Do you suppose that's healthy?
I find myself melting when he stammers around about the health of Lizzie's family at their surprise meeting at Pemberly. And I have a similar soft feeling for Capt Wentworth when he does the same thing with Anne in the confectioners in Bath in Persuasion. What could this be about?
Amy
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In Reply to: Fine Wickham? posted by Amy on August 06, 1996 at 09:55:00:
: : Speaking of "fine eyes" how is Adrian Lukis' dastardly Mr Wickham's fine pair?
: I did not care for that guy. I did like Mr Denny and Col Fitzwilliam though. I liked them very much indeed.
: Amy
as with the rest of the cast, i think Adrian Lukis was perfect in his role and exuded just the right amount of charm and wit to convince us that he'd be a guy for whom Lizzy would fall, but not enough to overpower and unseat our impression and pull for Darcy (especially for those who may have been previously unfamiliar with the story and wavered on the point of which male protag to root for)... so i very much enjoyed Lukis in the role of bounder and his "fine eyes" as well.
-eva
In Reply to: Charming insecurity posted by Amy on August 06, 1996 at 22:18:34:
: Arnessa sed:
: >Now I wouldn't say Darcy is exactly as shy as Firth plays him, but Darcy has his insecurities just like Lizzy.
: Agree with about all you say as usual, Arnessa.
: Funny about the insecurities. It's part of what warms us to him. Do you suppose that's healthy?
: I find myself melting when he stammers around about the health of Lizzie's family at their surprise meeting at Pemberly. And I have a similar soft feeling for Capt Wentworth when he does the same thing with Anne in the confectioners in Bath in Persuasion. What could this be about?
: Amy
i absolutely concur!! yes, there is something most irresistably charming about men whose coat of confidence reveals some nicks... for me, both moments (in P&P2 and Persuasion) were the REAL turning points for me as a viewer swept away... for some reason, however, Hugh Grant's bumbling insecurities did not have a similar effect at all...
-eva
In Reply to: Another P & P comparison (sort of) posted by Lisa Warrington on August 05, 1996 at 19:45:59:
: This is a somewhat peripheral message, but I thought I would post it anyway.I have recently seen Dutch Girls, one of Colin Firth's early films (1985), and was completely charmed by it. I thought I'd share a few thoughts that made me chuckle, with apologies if this is meaningless because you don't know Dutch Girls!
: This British TV movie was an early shared outing for Colin & Adrian Lukis as actors, and Sue Birtwistle (producer). I amused myself by imagining that Colin & Adrian were playing out Darcy & Wickham's pre-Cambridge school days. Which made me really enjoy Adrian, looking fetching in a school cap and pink blazer, calling Colin (who never submitted to the indignity of a school cap) a "prat". And we also got to see "Mr Wickham" getting in some early practice in the dubious art of seduction, with a bacardi & coke ready to feed to an apparently willing girl on the back stairs.
: The real highlight (& Darcy connection) for me was the first disco scene in Dutch Girls. What an uncanny parallel to the Netherfield ball! There was "Darcycam" all over again, as Colin/Truelove (perfect name for him) stalked about the room, keeping his eyes on Romelia, with naive baby beginner's lust, totally tongue tied and not sure how to make his move. The same Darcy-as-teenager longing looks from a doorway. I just giggle when I imagine Darcy "practising" for falling in love with Lizzy. Then when he finally gets up the courage and stutters "fancy a dance?", I giggle again at the delightful youthful comparison to Darcy's "would you do me the honour . . .?"
: Lisa
HILARIOUS!! now i really have to get my paws on a copy of "Dutch Girls". i hear that Colin was not the most graceful of "disco-ers" :-)
-eva
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In Reply to: Sorry Janey posted by Amy on August 06, 1996 at 16:22:19:
: This thing went fluey. I deleted some dupe messages in the thread you started about Jennifer Ehle's nationality and it wiped out the whole conversation instead.
: Very sorry. Laura answered you, saying Jennifer is indeed a US citizen, and feels comfortable speaking in either an American or British accent. It does seem astonishing. At least for our age. But think about the Hepburns, Grace Kelly, any of those types who were trained to speak Bryn Mawr (sp?). Our Lizzie is simply out of her era.
: Amy
I got deleted (boo hoo boo hoo). Actually my posting was very informative to. Jennifer Ehle is American, but she speaks with a British Accent. Her mom, Rosemary Harris, is British. Her dad, John Ehle, is a North Carolinian native who is also a writer. Jennifer Ehle is now about 26 years old and is now residing in England. She went to college in Michigan. Thinking it was in Upstate New York. (go figure). She is set to star opposite Glenn Close and someone else I cannot remember in a new movie that takes place it India somewhere about singers. She said that luckily she does not have to sing. Well that is all for now. Please stop deleting me. Only joking
Laura McCarthy
In Reply to: Sorry Janey posted by Amy on August 06, 1996 at 16:22:19:
: This thing went fluey. I deleted some dupe messages in the thread you started about Jennifer Ehle's nationality and it wiped out the whole conversation instead.
: Very sorry. Laura answered you, saying Jennifer is indeed a US citizen, and feels comfortable speaking in either an American or British accent. It does seem astonishing. At least for our age. But think about the Hepburns, Grace Kelly, any of those types who were trained to speak Bryn Mawr (sp?). Our Lizzie is simply out of her era.
: Amy
I got deleted (boo hoo boo hoo). Actually my posting was very informative to. Jennifer Ehle is American, but she speaks with a British Accent. Her mom, Rosemary Harris, is British. Her dad, John Ehle, is a North Carolinian native who is also a writer. Jennifer Ehle is now about 26 years old and is now residing in England. She went to college in Michigan. Thinking it was in Upstate New York. (go figure). She is set to star opposite Glenn Close and someone else I cannot remember in a new movie that takes place it India somewhere about singers. She said that luckily she does not have to sing. Well that is all for now. Please stop deleting me. Only joking
Laura McCarthy
Last night while I was watching P&P2 for the millionth time, I noticed Lizzy's ability to play the piano (or pianoforte). While she was at Rosing's Park she stumbled her way through the piece very very clumsily. But in Mr. Darcy's humble abode she played & singed beautifully. It seemed to me that her ability to play was remarkably improved. Perhaps I am being too picky, but it seems to be a slight inconsistancy.
Anyway, what is a pianoforte? Is it what we call the piano nowadays?
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