not perverted at all
Posted by P. Bingham on April 14, 1998 at 12:58:04:
In response to Emma "likes it like that"?, written by Bonny on April 14, 1998 at 04:42:12
I don't find this approach perverted at all. I think you've mistaken the meaning of Tomlin's words and perhaps given them more depth than she meant or perhaps you might be making something that is perhaps sexual something perverse. The brother/friend/husband relationship has long been a sexual one (brother meaning how far the depth of friendship can go). Indeed, I feel that this was exactly the relationship Emma had with Knightly. And even in Jane's experience, how do we know what she did or did not experience. She had access to enough married women to know what Emma would expect. Perhaps Jane had played a few "sexual" games of her own. Basing Jane's opinion on what we think her personal actions were (or what they really were) is not always safe. She was a very complicated woman. Sorry if this sounds aggressive! I don't mean it that way. Your ideas are appreciated.
] Any thoughts on Tomalin's take on "Emma", on the eroticizing of the mentor-pupil relationship of Emma and Mr Knightley? I quote:
] "Emma is blind to everything she does not want to see, and is enlightened only when her mistakes are shown up and the good advice of her brother-like lover is accepted....having started as one whose pleasure is all in thinking, manipulating, and imposing her will, she is discovering another pleasure in the passionate surrender of her will...Emma says she will never address her husband as George...he will always be Mr Knightley, preserving the master-pupil relationship that is so satisfying -even delicious- to her."
] Though I have pursued thoughts along similar lines to this I find Tomalins putting of it, the sexualized dominance and submission a bit hard to take. JA may havehad the 'power to imagine experience outside her own", but I don't think she intended to represent Emma with almost a perversion as Tomalin does.
- not aggressive Bonny 06:38:59 4/15/98 (0)
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