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GR: Fanny, Regan and Goneril   Written by Barbara (8/10/2003 3:21 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, GR: John Dashwood needs a SUTH, penned by Dagmar
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] It happened again, I simply couldn't read Chapter 2 without getting very angry! I know that dialog between mrs. and mr. John Dashwood is funny but he makes me mad!

I know a number of people are aware of this, as it has come up before, but in his book Jane Austen's Novels: The Art of Clarity Roger Gard argues that the logic Fanny uses here is very similar to the manner in which King Lear's daughters Regan and Goneril reduce the number of knights attending their father from 100 down to one, just as coldly.

I've linked the whole scene below, but here is an excerpt:

KING LEAR

I can be patient; I can stay with Regan,

I and my hundred knights.

REGAN

Not altogether so:

I look'd not for you yet, nor am provided

For your fit welcome. Give ear, sir, to my sister;

For those that mingle reason with your passion

Must be content to think you old, and so--

But she knows what she does.

KING LEAR

Is this well spoken?

REGAN

I dare avouch it, sir: what, fifty followers?

Is it not well? What should you need of more?

Yea, or so many, sith that both charge and danger

Speak 'gainst so great a number? How, in one house,

Should many people, under two commands,

Hold amity? 'Tis hard; almost impossible.

GONERIL

Why might not you, my lord, receive attendance

From those that she calls servants or from mine?

REGAN

Why not, my lord? If then they chanced to slack you,

We could control them. If you will come to me,--

For now I spy a danger,--I entreat you

To bring but five and twenty: to no more

Will I give place or notice.

KING LEAR

I gave you all--

REGAN

And in good time you gave it.

KING LEAR

Made you my guardians, my depositaries;

But kept a reservation to be follow'd

With such a number. What, must I come to you

With five and twenty, Regan? said you so?

REGAN

And speak't again, my lord; no more with me.

KING LEAR

Those wicked creatures yet do look well-favour'd,

When others are more wicked: not being the worst

Stands in some rank of praise.

[To GONERIL]

I'll go with thee:

Thy fifty yet doth double five and twenty,

And thou art twice her love.

GONERIL

Hear me, my lord;

What need you five and twenty, ten, or five,

To follow in a house where twice so many

Have a command to tend you?

REGAN

What need one?


Act II, scene iv King Lear

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