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Willoughby is never far from his own thoughts Robbin (11/2/2012 5:00 p.m.)
- stupid charms Stephanie (11/2/2012 8:44 p.m.)
  - Sophia's influence Robbin (11/4/2012 12:07 p.m.)
    - Money Stephanie (11/4/2012 3:09 p.m.)

veracity Stephanie (10/30/2012 9:51 p.m.)

I was about to say no but amytat (11/1/2012 11:34 a.m.)

Detecting the Miss Dashwoods Robbin (10/28/2012 8:54 p.m.)

Robert bridget D (10/29/2012 2:54 a.m.)
- Affected Indifference BarbaraB (10/30/2012 3:41 p.m.)

Stalker? Robbin (10/28/2012 1:13 p.m.)

Stalker bridget D (10/28/2012 3:04 p.m.)
- What does Willoughby want with them? Robbin (10/28/2012 5:14 p.m.)
  - Willoughby bridget D (10/29/2012 2:31 a.m.)
    - Sir John/Willoughby BarbaraB (10/30/2012 4:32 p.m.)
      - The 'hunting' metaphor/Elinor's words   BarbaraB (11/4/2012 1:36 p.m.)
        
        Sir John sporting jokes apply, too? nfm   Stephanie (11/4/2012 3:16 p.m.)
        
        And Edward's joke?   Graciela (11/4/2012 11:14 p.m.)
        
        Sounds right to me! (:D) nfm   Robbin (11/4/2012 2:30 p.m.)
      - Marianne   bridget D (10/31/2012 2:29 a.m.)
        
        Didn't say he was trying to seduce Marianne   BarbaraB (10/31/2012 9:30 p.m.)
        
        He was trying to engage her affections   Ramya (10/31/2012 10:43 p.m.)

Finding Edward a profession dalyn (10/28/2012 2:11 a.m.)

Edward bridget D (10/28/2012 3:19 a.m.)
- A typo in some editions. nfm Ramya (10/28/2012 10:17 a.m.)
  - Definitely one in my Kindel nfm thanks! dalyn (10/29/2012 9:07 p.m.)

Agonies of Sensibility Robbin (10/27/2012 5:11 p.m.)

The downside of sensibility LouAnn (10/30/2012 11:20 a.m.)
- Screaming and fainting Mary Anne (10/30/2012 3:50 p.m.)
- Fanny knows how use emotion Nuria (10/30/2012 1:20 p.m.)
  - No sense, just sensibility Laura Marie (11/1/2012 9:16 a.m.)
    - female behavior Stephanie (11/2/2012 8:35 p.m.)

Lying to Elinor Robbin (10/23/2012 4:09 p.m.)

My thoughts BarbaraB (10/24/2012 9:39 p.m.)
Willoughby - Truth or lies? Rachel G (10/24/2012 6:51 p.m.)
- Wllougbhy bridget D (10/25/2012 1:46 p.m.)
  - Willoughby of Allenham Robbin (10/26/2012 10:31 a.m.)
    - Wllougbhy bridget D (10/27/2012 2:44 a.m.)
  - Somerset is 1,600 square miles Graciela (10/25/2012 3:47 p.m.)
    - letters Bridget D (10/26/2012 7:33 a.m.)
      - Mrs Smith and Eliza   bridget D (10/27/2012 4:28 a.m.)
        
        I have heard it suggested   Chandra S (10/27/2012 3:05 p.m.)
        
        Too underhand ....   Rachel G (10/27/2012 8:00 p.m.)
        
        I would have think Col. B. more clever   Graciela (10/27/2012 4:05 p.m.)
        
        Brandon oh no!   bridget D (10/28/2012 3:17 a.m.)
Is Willoughby lying amytat (10/24/2012 2:11 p.m.)
- Letter bridget D (10/28/2012 8:43 a.m.)
Not applicable, maybe, maybe, maybe, and yes Tom P2 (10/23/2012 5:33 p.m.)

Uniquely suited to each other Robbin (10/23/2012 10:13 a.m.)

similar Stephanie (10/28/2012 2:16 p.m.)
- Lucy's punishment Robbin (10/28/2012 5:56 p.m.)

Willoughby invades Cleveland Robbin (10/23/2012 8:47 a.m.)

He's a narcisist dalyn (10/25/2012 1:18 a.m.)
- Well said! nfm Rachel G (10/25/2012 4:08 a.m.)
You've explained it well enough Mary Anne (10/23/2012 2:47 p.m.)
- assault Stephanie (10/28/2012 2:26 p.m.)

Spirited critique upon the party Robbin (10/19/2012 4:23 p.m.)

Primed for Lucy Barbara (10/20/2012 1:32 a.m.)
- Ferrars & Son Robbin (10/21/2012 12:22 p.m.)
  - concepts of honor amytat (10/21/2012 3:20 p.m.)
    - More on concepts of honour Mary Anne (10/21/2012 5:59 p.m.)
      - honour   Stephanie (10/22/2012 3:16 p.m.)
        
        I think Lucy would see honor as a weakness   amytat (10/22/2012 5:59 p.m.)
        
        lousy still   Stephanie (10/28/2012 1:06 p.m.)
- What an interesting thought. Chandra S (10/20/2012 1:27 p.m.)
  - Even an amiable sister-in-law! Nuria (10/22/2012 9:01 a.m.)
    - Giving Mr. Ferrars the benefit of the doubt? Ramya (10/22/2012 11:13 a.m.)
      - Edward was the elder son. NFM Stephanie (10/22/2012 3:18 p.m.)
        
        Oops- that was a typo. I do know Edward is the older sibling. nfm Ramya (10/22/2012 3:50 p.m.)

The engagement reveal--poor Elinor! Barbara (10/18/2012 2:05 a.m.)

What long speeches Tom P2 (10/18/2012 6:28 p.m.)
- Remnants of the epistolary form? Barbara (10/18/2012 10:37 p.m.)
  - Not sure about Brandon writing... Sarah Hannah (10/20/2012 2:59 a.m.)
    - correspondence Stephanie (10/22/2012 3:07 p.m.)
      - Wouldn�t it be different for Elinor to write to Edward amytat (10/22/2012 5:15 p.m.)
        
        Letters bridget D (10/25/2012 1:41 p.m.)
      - Does sealing make a difference to the propriety? Tom P2 (10/22/2012 4:58 p.m.)
    - Letter bridget D (10/20/2012 4:30 a.m.)
I agree. amytat (10/18/2012 3:25 p.m.)
- strength Stephanie (10/22/2012 2:34 p.m.)

Robert's comments on public vs. private education Barbara (10/18/2012 1:53 a.m.)

entirely your own doing Stephanie (10/22/2012 2:37 p.m.)
Robert's envy & Sir Robert's persuasion Robbin (10/18/2012 3:48 p.m.)
Robert might really believe he got the superior education. amytat (10/18/2012 11:40 a.m.)
- Mr Pratts bridget D (10/20/2012 4:36 a.m.)

Robert Ferras, The Quiz BarbaraB (10/17/2012 5:31 p.m.)

Another great Robert Ferrars moment Frances G (10/18/2012 1:22 a.m.)
- One of my favourites too, but Nuria (10/19/2012 2:57 p.m.)
- My favourite line in the whole canon of Austen Barbara (10/18/2012 1:26 a.m.)
One of the funniest lines Barbara (10/18/2012 1:19 a.m.)

John Dashwood, caricature of cluelessness... Chandra S (10/15/2012 10:12 a.m.)

Mrs. Jennings fortune dalyn (10/16/2012 4:54 p.m.)
- more Stephanie (10/22/2012 2:17 p.m.)
Another thing that strikes me about him amytat (10/15/2012 7:53 p.m.)
- He makes me a little sad Faithr (10/16/2012 6:55 a.m.)
  - Fanny Dashwood finally has her say! (Very clever) Cathy Allen (10/18/2012 3:23 p.m.)

Ch. 31 Stephanie (10/12/2012 10:50 p.m.)

Spunging-Houses/Debtor's Prisons BarbaraB (10/18/2012 11:46 p.m.)
- Yes! Thank you! nfm Stephanie (10/22/2012 2:41 p.m.)
- I found it helpful-thanks! �nfm amytat (10/19/2012 11:19 p.m.)
- servants and spunging houses bridget D (10/19/2012 7:42 a.m.)
Rescuing Mrs Brandon & supporting young Eliza. Rachel G (10/14/2012 7:00 p.m.)
Here's my guess LouAnn (10/13/2012 10:05 p.m.)
- delicacy Stephanie (10/13/2012 11:38 p.m.)
  - The beauty of Austen LouAnn (10/14/2012 12:07 p.m.)
Eliza and debts bridget D (10/13/2012 7:54 a.m.)
- both or neither Stephanie (10/13/2012 7:55 p.m.)
  - Eliza bridget D (10/14/2012 5:51 a.m.)
    - Ifs Stephanie (10/14/2012 6:44 p.m.)
      - Jane Austen Bridget D (10/15/2012 7:11 a.m.)

letters Stephanie (10/12/2012 10:33 p.m.)

know thyself Stephanie (10/12/2012 10:17 p.m.)

Willoughby's debts are no secret Barbara (10/13/2012 6:21 p.m.)
- close to the truth Stephanie (10/13/2012 8:12 p.m.)
  - When did I say that? Barbara (10/15/2012 5:38 p.m.)
    - And Col. Brandon says that he knows Graciela (10/15/2012 8:53 p.m.)
      - general Stephanie (10/22/2012 2:19 p.m.)
        
        daughter bridget D (10/23/2012 1:08 a.m.)
      - Suspected in general Barbara (10/18/2012 1:25 a.m.)
  - Mrs Jennings bridget D (10/14/2012 5:00 a.m.)
    - Much like real life... Melissa K. (10/14/2012 6:22 p.m.)
Willoughby Debts bridget D (10/13/2012 4:02 a.m.)
Won't defend Mrs Jennings LouAnn (10/12/2012 10:39 p.m.)
- Mrs Jennings bridget D (10/13/2012 7:57 a.m.)
  - Maybe give her a short time to get over it LouAnn (10/13/2012 10:10 p.m.)

End of Chap 32 - a clear picture of the Miss Steeles/Elinor Cathy Allen (10/11/2012 1:52 p.m.)

I loved this: Srirup (10/12/2012 3:28 a.m.)
- I noticed the use of farther Faithr (10/12/2012 10:13 a.m.)
  - far fur fair Stephanie (10/12/2012 9:51 p.m.)
First lines of the book LouAnn (10/11/2012 3:43 p.m.)

Why does Miss Grey marry W? Srirup (10/10/2012 8:30 a.m.)

explanation Stephanie (10/12/2012 9:31 p.m.)
Did she know that he was a blackguard? Graciela (moved by moderator) (10/10/2012 2:45 p.m.)
- Miss Grey bridget D (10/10/2012 5:10 p.m.)
Smooooooth talking man... Chandra S (10/10/2012 2:23 p.m.)
- An ideal match Nuria (10/11/2012 2:37 p.m.)

Was Lucy just lucky? BarbaraB (10/9/2012 12:25 a.m.)

Lucy is such a very well organized girl Nuria (10/11/2012 8:39 a.m.)
Movie version makes more sense! Laura Marie (10/10/2012 1:26 a.m.)
Lucy and Mrs J bridget D (10/9/2012 11:58 a.m.)
- Edward could not have talked to Lucy about Mrs. Jennings Graciela (10/9/2012 1:10 p.m.)
Too much indeed Chandra S (10/9/2012 7:59 a.m.)
- they might not even be cousins LouAnn (10/9/2012 4:53 p.m.)
  - Mrs. Jennings 'discovered them to be her relations'. Barbara (10/10/2012 2:18 a.m.)
    - Much further than first cousins, if at all... Chandra S (10/10/2012 2:08 p.m.)
      - population   Stephanie (10/10/2012 3:22 p.m.)
        
        Lucy   bridget D (10/10/2012 5:07 p.m.)
        
        expense   Stephanie (10/10/2012 5:59 p.m.)
        
        Steele sisters   bridget D (10/11/2012 9:20 a.m.)
        
        How to Plan a Meeting with the Middletons   BarbaraB (10/11/2012 6:49 p.m.)
        
        Lucy is proactive   Robbin (10/13/2012 9:24 p.m.)
        
        "All cousins, or something like it"   Ramya (10/14/2012 9:56 a.m.)
        
        Cousinship   Robbin (10/15/2012 2:28 p.m.)
        
        Too funny... ;-) nfm   Ramya (10/15/2012 3:05 p.m.)
        
        I think it may have been a blend of coincidence   Ramya (10/11/2012 8:44 p.m.)
        
        A Viable Possibility   BarbaraB (10/11/2012 11:49 p.m.)

Elinor's suffering Chandra S (10/8/2012 4:48 p.m.)

Elinor cries Laura Marie (10/10/2012 1:46 a.m.)
- maybe Stephanie (10/10/2012 2:09 p.m.)
I always pity her Nuria (10/9/2012 12:29 p.m.)
Pity for Elinor amytat (10/8/2012 9:01 p.m.)

Fanny Dashwood vs. Edward Farrars Faithr (10/8/2012 6:35 a.m.)

John's inheritance and Elinor's lack thereof Cathy Allen (10/9/2012 7:10 p.m.)
John had already a fortune when he married. Graciela (10/8/2012 4:12 p.m.)

Col. Brandon's lack of wealth? dalyn (10/8/2012 2:52 a.m.)

If that statement has any basis in reality: amytat (10/8/2012 9:42 a.m.)
- Or maybe Ramya (10/8/2012 10:40 a.m.)
  - Col B bridget D (10/9/2012 12:00 p.m.)
    - Mr Palmer�s wealth Nuria (10/9/2012 12:22 p.m.)
      - What's an MP? (nfm) dalyn (10/10/2012 10:30 p.m.)
        
        Member of Parliament nfm BarbaraB (10/10/2012 10:45 p.m.)

Description of Colonel Brandon's estate LouAnn (10/7/2012 10:19 p.m.)

Mulberry trees Barbara (10/10/2012 2:02 a.m.)
- stain Stephanie (10/10/2012 3:07 p.m.)
Mrs. Jennings' description Barbara (10/10/2012 1:36 a.m.)
- Delaford Stephanie (10/10/2012 2:03 p.m.)
Delaford BarbaraB (10/8/2012 4:49 p.m.)
- An interesting comparison. Srirup (10/9/2012 6:22 a.m.)
- the contrast with Norland LouAnn (10/8/2012 5:58 p.m.)

Breaking off engagements dalyn (10/6/2012 12:48 a.m.)

from the woman's side amytat (10/6/2012 1:18 a.m.)
- Breach of promise StephenB (10/6/2012 3:15 p.m.)
  - Edward and Lucy bridget D (10/7/2012 3:08 a.m.)
    - This week's readings LouAnn (10/7/2012 8:37 p.m.)
- Wow. I had no idea. Thanks (nfm) dalyn (10/6/2012 1:51 p.m.)

Listening to Lucy Steele Frances G (10/6/2012 12:30 a.m.)

oops ... misspelling Frances G (10/6/2012 3:25 p.m.)
Lack of education as well Chandra S (10/6/2012 9:24 a.m.)

Greetings all Robbin (10/5/2012 11:08 a.m.)

Good to have you in the GR! :-) nfm Ramya (10/6/2012 10:47 a.m.)
Glad to see you, Robbin---Looking forward to your input :)nfm BarbaraB (10/5/2012 11:41 a.m.)

Why did Edward come to visit? Barbara (10/4/2012 12:20 a.m.)

suppose Stephanie (10/10/2012 1:53 p.m.)
A mystery to me... Nuria (10/9/2012 12:16 p.m.)
You'e mentioned some ideas I had not considered Cathy Allen (10/4/2012 7:22 p.m.)
It's that pound of regret . . . Mary Anne (10/4/2012 12:37 p.m.)
Obligation? Delusion? Chandra S (10/4/2012 10:26 a.m.)
- Good thing he went Frances G (10/6/2012 12:11 a.m.)
  - Edward bridget D (10/6/2012 9:06 a.m.)
- Edward bridget D (10/5/2012 3:17 a.m.)

Logistics of not having a Carriage Ramya (10/1/2012 3:22 p.m.)

A little more information Ramya (10/8/2012 8:24 a.m.)
Perhaps also... Nuria (10/5/2012 6:52 a.m.)
The servants would have never Graciela (10/1/2012 6:52 p.m.)
Getting around. Rachel G (10/1/2012 5:38 p.m.)
- Carriages bridget D (10/3/2012 4:01 a.m.)

The Comic Relief - I love the Palmers! Cathy Allen (10/1/2012 2:27 p.m.)

Mrs. Palmer is the limit! Ramya (10/1/2012 2:49 p.m.)
- I always wonder . . . Mary Anne (10/1/2012 3:45 p.m.)
  - couples Stephanie (10/1/2012 5:24 p.m.)
    - I couldn't help but think dalyn (10/3/2012 12:26 a.m.)
      - Interchangeable men Barbara (10/4/2012 12:56 a.m.)
      - Oh, dear . . .   Mary Anne (10/3/2012 8:12 a.m.)
        
        He would have to wait some years to marry her.   Graciela (10/3/2012 12:17 p.m.)
        
        Roughly, it means . . .   Mary Anne (10/3/2012 1:49 p.m.)
        
        I had same reaction   amytat (10/3/2012 11:48 a.m.)
        
        The continuing dialogue in Ch 20 is hysterical...   jeffrey (10/3/2012 2:17 p.m.)

"Shy" vs. "Reserved" Chandra S (10/1/2012 9:37 a.m.)

Reserved Rachel G (10/1/2012 5:21 p.m.)
- Across the Novels BarbaraB (10/2/2012 12:00 a.m.)
  - Thank you both dalyn (10/3/2012 12:20 a.m.)
The implication Barbara (10/1/2012 2:56 p.m.)
- guessing Stephanie (10/1/2012 5:12 p.m.)

no letters Stephanie (9/27/2012 10:52 p.m.)

invisible servants Stephanie (9/27/2012 10:33 p.m.)

Servants BarbaraB (10/8/2012 11:13 p.m.)
- response Stephanie (10/10/2012 12:23 p.m.)
  - Loyalty Robbin (10/15/2012 3:15 p.m.)
Loved your post Frances G (9/29/2012 12:23 a.m.)
- tell-alls Stephanie (9/29/2012 7:39 p.m.)

Something I noticed Tess (9/26/2012 12:24 p.m.)

I noticed Stephanie (9/26/2012 11:35 p.m.)
- A familiar type of house. Rachel G (9/27/2012 1:30 p.m.)

Queen Mab Barbara (9/26/2012 12:45 a.m.)

A dream or nightmare Robbin (10/5/2012 4:53 p.m.)
- Mixed motives. Rachel G (10/5/2012 5:55 p.m.)
  - Unduly cynical about Willoughby? Robbin (10/7/2012 3:02 p.m.)
    - But then again.... Rachel G (10/7/2012 6:39 p.m.)
      - horses bridget D (10/9/2012 12:02 p.m.)
      - I agree it is ambiguous at this point Robbin (10/7/2012 7:04 p.m.)
  - Get the girl? bridget D (10/6/2012 9:10 a.m.)
    - Get the girl, Oh yeah! Robbin (10/7/2012 8:04 p.m.)
Probably...and perhaps he doesn�t know either Nuria (9/27/2012 5:38 a.m.)

Is Marianne being led astray? Barbara (9/26/2012 12:19 a.m.)

Love is blind Jasmine D (9/26/2012 12:27 p.m.)
- negatives Stephanie (9/26/2012 11:43 p.m.)
Without a doubt Mary Anne (9/26/2012 10:11 a.m.)
- Tastes coincide Frances G (9/27/2012 1:13 a.m.)
  - text Stephanie (9/27/2012 5:23 p.m.)

Marianne's taste in literature--Pope Barbara (9/24/2012 10:02 p.m.)

Marianne exerts herself Chandra S (9/23/2012 9:09 p.m.)

marianne's exertion Stephanie (9/26/2012 11:00 p.m.)

People behaving rudely (Chapter 13) Ramya (9/23/2012 1:39 p.m.)

Brandon being rude too (Chapter 11) Nuria (9/28/2012 3:19 a.m.)
- He's not asking about Marianne's feelings. Graciela (9/28/2012 4:33 p.m.)
  - I know... Nuria (10/4/2012 4:18 p.m.)
- public Stephanie (9/28/2012 3:13 p.m.)
I was appalled dalyn (9/26/2012 7:40 p.m.)
- Audiobook Frances G (9/27/2012 12:54 a.m.)
Friends without filters Chandra S (9/23/2012 4:15 p.m.)
- I think Col. Brandon is very indulgent Faithr (9/23/2012 6:34 p.m.)
  - Col Brandon has an estate nearby? nfm Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:58 p.m.)
  - No persuading him Paisley (9/24/2012 11:29 a.m.)
    - Friendly with your neighbors LouAnn (9/24/2012 9:39 p.m.)

Chapter 7: Enter the Colonel (long) Mary Anne (9/23/2012 12:46 p.m.)

Colonel Brandon and Sir John's friendship Barbara (9/24/2012 1:40 a.m.)
- He does like lively, emotional people dalyn (9/26/2012 7:36 p.m.)
  - Is it sensibility or plain enthusiasm? Robbin (10/5/2012 11:15 a.m.)
- Reminds me of ... gianni (9/24/2012 12:34 p.m.)
  - I can think of one or two Chandra S (9/24/2012 2:49 p.m.)
    - Colonel Brandon as a friend Barbara (9/24/2012 5:26 p.m.)
      - natural spirits Stephanie (9/26/2012 11:10 p.m.)
- Did they serve together? Mary Anne (9/24/2012 8:18 a.m.)
  - I don't think so. Barbara (9/24/2012 8:52 a.m.)

Thinking about Marianne... Cathy Allen (9/22/2012 11:13 p.m.)

when younger Stephanie (9/26/2012 11:16 p.m.)
- I doubt ... gianni (9/27/2012 2:41 a.m.)
  - not Elinor Stephanie (9/27/2012 5:29 p.m.)
Well .... Rachel G (9/23/2012 7:30 a.m.)
Marianne bridget D (9/23/2012 5:16 a.m.)
Me too! Helen Kaye (9/23/2012 1:31 a.m.)
Guilty! :-p Ramya (9/22/2012 11:28 p.m.)
- I wonder if Marianne's behavior Faithr (9/24/2012 5:52 a.m.)
  - I completely agree, Paisley (9/24/2012 6:19 p.m.)
    - Interesting Frances G (9/27/2012 12:46 a.m.)
- Oh, good; I'm not the only one! Cathy Allen (9/22/2012 11:47 p.m.)

Margaret makes Marianne the middle child Barbara (9/22/2012 3:13 p.m.)

Can TOTALLY see Marianne running alone! NFM Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:45 p.m.)
- Not this way Barbara (9/27/2012 12:38 a.m.)
  - disagree Stephanie (9/27/2012 5:12 p.m.)
    - Moping around alone is totally different Barbara (9/27/2012 7:05 p.m.)
      - instance Stephanie (9/27/2012 10:27 p.m.)
Marianne acting like a child LouAnn (9/24/2012 9:45 p.m.)
Marriane and Margaret Paisley (9/24/2012 6:55 p.m.)
- Possibly... Tess (9/27/2012 1:59 p.m.)
  - But with Willoughby and the horse... Barbara (9/27/2012 2:41 p.m.)
    - Not asking amytat (9/27/2012 6:49 p.m.)
      - learning Stephanie (9/27/2012 10:19 p.m.)
      - Definitely Barbara (9/27/2012 7:08 p.m.)
    - feel good Stephanie (9/27/2012 5:56 p.m.)

Paradox in the personalities of Elinor & Marianne BarbaraB (9/22/2012 11:41 a.m.)

Agree, and... Tess (9/24/2012 12:41 p.m.)
Marianne's sense of humour Barbara (9/22/2012 2:58 p.m.)
- ought to act Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:43 p.m.)
  - Authentic Frances G (9/27/2012 12:38 a.m.)
    - Not 'acting', but still following a prescribed sort of behaviour Barbara (9/27/2012 12:45 a.m.)
      - Difference   Frances G (9/27/2012 1:25 a.m.)
        
        But she is still bringing it on herself   Barbara (9/27/2012 1:51 a.m.)
        
        A little more on that point   Barbara (9/27/2012 2:25 p.m.)
        
        Phases   Frances G (9/28/2012 11:56 p.m.)
        
        But, has she been Jilted?   amytat (9/29/2012 5:14 p.m.)
        
        Grief plus denial   Chandra S (10/1/2012 8:07 a.m.)
        
        that makes sense-nfm   amytat (10/1/2012 9:05 a.m.)
        
        Yes- Marianne believes it to be a brief separation   Ramya (9/29/2012 7:55 p.m.)
        
        showing feelings   bridget D (9/29/2012 2:30 a.m.)
        
        Elinor�s suffering   amytat (9/29/2012 5:29 p.m.)
        
        Marianne   bridget D (9/30/2012 3:08 a.m.)
        
        Yes   BarbaraB (9/27/2012 6:30 a.m.)
- Maturity? RobinJ (9/22/2012 9:54 p.m.)

Mrs. Dashwood�s plans for Barton Cottage amytat (9/21/2012 9:59 p.m.)

Not very realistic Barbara (9/22/2012 12:04 a.m.)
- unrealistic amytat (9/22/2012 5:18 p.m.)
  - Improvement bridget D (9/23/2012 5:17 a.m.)

Marianne and her mother are ruled by their emotions Glenn (9/21/2012 9:57 p.m.)

Teenagers and cosseted wives. Rachel G (9/22/2012 7:42 a.m.)
- deciding Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:36 p.m.)
- Yes, that makes sense (nfm) Glenn (9/22/2012 11:17 a.m.)

A clue about how Mrs. D relates to her girls, Chandra S (9/20/2012 2:14 p.m.)

Elinor's influence Tess (9/20/2012 6:33 p.m.)
- marianne's wishes Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:07 p.m.)

Why don't they like Lady Middleton? Barbara (9/19/2012 10:24 p.m.)

I�m trying to be fair with her Nuria (9/30/2012 5:17 p.m.)
New friendns vs old Paisley (9/21/2012 9:56 a.m.)
- Is our dear author speaking for herself? BarbaraB (9/21/2012 9:22 p.m.)
  - Middletons bridget D (9/22/2012 4:49 a.m.)
    - I agree Elb� (9/25/2012 10:10 p.m.)
      - author & characters Stephanie (9/26/2012 11:25 p.m.)
        
        Very Good Point nfm BarbaraB (9/27/2012 6:08 a.m.)
Never Thought of it RobinJ (9/20/2012 4:47 p.m.)
I agree Ramya (9/20/2012 11:44 a.m.)
- snobs Stephanie (9/26/2012 9:53 p.m.)
  - Good point Ramya (9/27/2012 11:07 a.m.)
    - aspects Stephanie (9/27/2012 5:50 p.m.)
But that was the narrator's opinion, at the beginning Graciela (9/19/2012 11:26 p.m.)
- It's not the narrator's opinion Barbara (9/19/2012 11:55 p.m.)
  - Third-person omniscient narrator LouAnn (9/21/2012 8:53 p.m.)
    - The narrator Barbara (9/21/2012 11:53 p.m.)
      - Narrator�s voice vs. the Dashwood�s   amytat (9/22/2012 4:45 p.m.)
        
        I agree! nfm   Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:47 p.m.)
        
        Middletons   bridget D (9/22/2012 6:51 p.m.)

Barton Cottage Barbara (9/19/2012 10:12 p.m.)

Romantic Lisa EBK (9/20/2012 10:16 a.m.)

Ch. 3: Marianne's ideals Jasmine D (9/19/2012 11:51 a.m.)

Impossibly high standards Barbara (9/19/2012 9:16 p.m.)
- Marriane's age Paisley (9/20/2012 5:06 a.m.)
I see JA as setting Marianne up for a fall here Louise H (9/19/2012 8:53 p.m.)

Why do we see so little of Edward Ferrars? Tess (9/18/2012 8:09 a.m.)

A similar train of thought BarbaraB (9/19/2012 1:28 a.m.)
To highlight the differences between Marianne and Elinor Elb� (9/18/2012 3:17 p.m.)
- The "prejudiced" reader Jasmine D (9/19/2012 11:41 a.m.)
  - Another thought on reader �prejudice� amytat (9/19/2012 10:21 p.m.)
  - Good point Tess (9/19/2012 2:52 p.m.)
    - Little bit of both Jasmine D (9/19/2012 11:51 p.m.)
      - What he is *not* is more important than what he is? Sarah Hannah (9/20/2012 12:55 p.m.)
- I agree Faithr (9/18/2012 6:07 p.m.)
Unobtrusive Edward. Rachel G (9/18/2012 1:21 p.m.)
- Edward RobinJ (9/20/2012 4:57 p.m.)

Joining you all Faithr (9/17/2012 7:00 p.m.)

clarification Stephanie (9/17/2012 12:17 p.m.)

Charge on the estate Deborah Julia (9/17/2012 12:52 p.m.)
- expert opinion Stephanie (9/26/2012 9:13 p.m.)
  - estate bridget D (9/28/2012 1:41 a.m.)
  - annuity Frances G (9/27/2012 12:24 a.m.)

Worth half the purchase Ramya (9/17/2012 10:58 a.m.)

Life expectancy in Regency Tess (9/17/2012 12:29 p.m.)
- Not as much lower as you might think Barbara (9/17/2012 1:08 p.m.)
  - Thanks, very helpful thread! (nfm) Tess (9/18/2012 7:15 a.m.)

The Unfulfilled Promise Golda (9/16/2012 2:21 p.m.)

Lies and greed Glenn (9/21/2012 9:26 p.m.)
- Pure Greed BarbaraB (9/22/2012 10:48 a.m.)
Yes, I've wondered as well BarbaraB (9/20/2012 6:40 p.m.)
- Fanny's need to get rid of Elinor Paisley (9/21/2012 9:31 a.m.)
There were, perhaps, some risks Chandra S (9/20/2012 1:33 p.m.)
re: The Unfulfilled Promise Tess (9/16/2012 3:23 p.m.)
- The unfulfilled promise Paisley (9/16/2012 3:53 p.m.)
  - John Dashwood RobinJ (9/20/2012 5:01 p.m.)
    - weakness Stephanie (9/26/2012 10:01 p.m.)

Chapter two... Tess (9/16/2012 6:28 a.m.)

It seems surprising Donna M (9/16/2012 11:15 p.m.)
Equal blame AndreaML (9/16/2012 9:58 p.m.)
King Lear Barbara (9/16/2012 1:27 p.m.)
- What an interesting comparison Tess (9/16/2012 2:43 p.m.)
- re: King Lear Jasmine D (9/16/2012 2:20 p.m.)
Yes- this is one of the most Ramya (9/16/2012 1:14 p.m.)
- illustrates what we can all recognise in ourselves Jane Rhea (9/16/2012 4:02 p.m.)
Made of the same stuff Elb� (9/16/2012 12:00 p.m.)
- John is no prince... Melissa K. (9/16/2012 10:14 p.m.)
  - What Henry Dashwood had in mind Barbara (9/17/2012 8:58 a.m.)
  - Anything for an easy life! Paisley (9/17/2012 4:24 a.m.)

To old for Romance Paisley (9/16/2012 4:27 a.m.)

Where is her cleverness? Suzanna (9/16/2012 7:42 p.m.)
- As I understand the term . . . Mary Anne (9/16/2012 10:30 p.m.)
Age & Romance Barbara (9/16/2012 1:47 p.m.)
- 35 and 70 Mary Anne (9/16/2012 8:28 p.m.)
  - Good point. AndreaML (9/16/2012 9:48 p.m.)
- Age and romance Paisley (9/16/2012 3:30 p.m.)

V excited its my first group read! Paisley (9/15/2012 7:29 p.m.)

Welcome Paisley! Glad to share love for S&S nfm Elb� (9/16/2012 1:48 a.m.)

Checking in - but likely to lurk. Rachel G (9/15/2012 3:28 p.m.)

Me, too! (nfm) Cathy Allen (9/18/2012 1:03 p.m.)
Perfectly okay Barbara (9/15/2012 4:00 p.m.)
- Thanks Barbara - very reassuring. nfm Rachel G (9/15/2012 4:55 p.m.)

Cold-hearted John Barbara (9/15/2012 3:25 p.m.)

John's time with his family BarbaraB (9/22/2012 12:03 p.m.)
JA's attitude Line (9/16/2012 2:50 p.m.)
I would call John a dirtbag . . . Mary Anne (9/16/2012 12:03 p.m.)
- Fanny's choice. Rachel G (9/16/2012 1:57 p.m.)
  - fond Stephanie (9/16/2012 8:21 p.m.)
John is described as cold and selfish Lisa EBK (9/15/2012 9:44 p.m.)
Interesting question Ramya (9/15/2012 9:40 p.m.)
- I think you are right Elb� (9/16/2012 1:42 a.m.)

Afterthoughts Stephanie (9/15/2012 3:19 p.m.)

Margaret's role Ramya (9/15/2012 9:28 p.m.)
I have always felt sorry for Margaret Paisley (9/15/2012 7:56 p.m.)
- Similar thoughts Jasmine D (9/17/2012 12:23 p.m.)
  - Good point--it makes the financial situation more dire Barbara (9/17/2012 10:04 p.m.)
    - portions Stephanie (9/26/2012 9:18 p.m.)
      - She's 3 and a half years younger than Marianne Barbara (9/27/2012 12:24 a.m.)
- determining fate? Stephanie (9/16/2012 6:30 p.m.)
Margaret Jasmine D (9/15/2012 4:28 p.m.)

Second-guessing Stephanie (9/15/2012 3:16 p.m.)

Elinor Stephanie (9/15/2012 3:13 p.m.)

Her choice of a serious man Paisley (9/17/2012 4:51 a.m.)
- A tiny little quibble here; gianni (9/17/2012 10:25 p.m.)
  - Edward's defiance Paisley (9/18/2012 5:24 a.m.)
Maybe Elinor takes after her father & brother? Suzanna (9/16/2012 7:04 p.m.)
- Interesting thought Jasmine D (9/17/2012 12:27 p.m.)
- cold-hearted Stephanie (9/16/2012 9:10 p.m.)
  - I am in agreement with Stephanie on this Paisley (9/17/2012 8:09 a.m.)
re: Elinor Tess (9/16/2012 5:47 a.m.)
- agree Stephanie (9/16/2012 7:18 p.m.)
Practical by nature, useful in necessity Elb� (9/16/2012 1:26 a.m.)
- Oh! I hope! nfm Stephanie (9/16/2012 6:56 p.m.)
Eldest child? Jasmine D (9/15/2012 10:49 p.m.)
- Birth order dalyn (9/16/2012 12:41 a.m.)
  - And? Stephanie (9/16/2012 6:55 p.m.)
    - yes & no dalyn (9/17/2012 9:19 p.m.)
      - The eldest half-brother amytat (9/18/2012 7:38 a.m.)
        
        I agree Melissa K. (9/18/2012 7:06 p.m.)

Inheriting Norland Barbara (9/15/2012 3:05 p.m.)

"legal inheritor" vs. "bequeath it" Donna M (9/16/2012 3:48 p.m.)
The Uncle and his nieces BarbaraB (9/15/2012 8:14 p.m.)
- I agree Ramya (9/15/2012 9:20 p.m.)
  - The Old Gentleman and focus on money LouAnn (9/15/2012 11:23 p.m.)
    - Keeping estates together Stephanie (9/16/2012 6:52 p.m.)
      - Norland bridget D (9/23/2012 5:23 a.m.)
        
        Providing for his daughters Barbara (9/23/2012 11:29 a.m.)
  - Timing of Mr Dashwood's death Lisa EBK (9/15/2012 9:32 p.m.)
    - the Old Mr D Bridget D (9/18/2012 7:16 a.m.)
      - Not about spoiling him   Barbara (9/18/2012 9:15 a.m.)
        
        Mostly agree and I am wondering about something   BarbaraB (9/19/2012 1:01 a.m.)
        
        Did he expect John to care for them   Elb� (9/19/2012 1:17 a.m.)
        
        The uncle's expectations   BarbaraB (9/19/2012 9:09 a.m.)
        
        housekeeper   bridget D (9/22/2012 10:14 a.m.)
        
        Inheritance of an estate.   Rachel G (9/18/2012 12:39 p.m.)
        
        The will   Tess (9/18/2012 11:34 a.m.)
        
        A life interest for the girls?   Barbara (9/18/2012 1:42 p.m.)
        
        Well...   Tess (9/18/2012 4:19 p.m.)
        
        Dashwood estate   bridget D (9/22/2012 4:58 a.m.)
        
        I agree   Ramya (9/18/2012 12:35 p.m.)
        
        His name   Barbara (9/18/2012 2:55 p.m.)
    - Perhaps his uncle knew him too well Barbara (9/16/2012 2:10 a.m.)
      - I think Barbara has just summed it up, Paisley (9/16/2012 4:10 a.m.)
        
        maybe (not) Stephanie (9/16/2012 7:11 p.m.)

Starting with startings Stephanie (9/15/2012 2:44 p.m.)

Not the having vs. needing money Barbara (9/15/2012 3:08 p.m.)
- He didn�t inherit the property amytat (9/15/2012 10:16 p.m.)
  - Rich inheriting Stephanie (9/16/2012 6:48 p.m.)

Glad to be here! Let's go! nfm Stephanie (9/15/2012 2:41 p.m.)

Me too! Looking forward to discovery ahead! nfm Elb� (9/15/2012 8:24 p.m.)

Group Read Guidelines Barbara (9/15/2012 1:39 p.m.)

Thanks, Barbara and Greetings fellow groupreaders nfm BarbaraB (9/15/2012 2:18 p.m.)

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