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|Adult guidance.. and further rambling
Written by Barb JA
(10/22/2009 11:01 a.m.)
in consequence of the missive, Willoughby and marrianne, penned by Bridget D
One thing that seems to have been lacking was proper adult guidance for Marianne, Eliza, Lydia, and Georgiana- all young girls who are foolish to varying extents. There was a long discussion already on the board of the failure of Mrs. Dashwood to properly oversee Marianne's relationship with Willoughby. I believe this supports my point that the "age of consent" has nothing to do with a girl's being ready to make decisions to be sexually active. If Eliza and Lydia were fully of age to know better and decide to have sex, then why should they need any kind of adult guidance? Why would Mrs. Dashwood have to ask "What are your intentions?" if Marianne was old enough to decide for herself. Perhaps there's another discrepancy. Was Marianne was old enough to make decisions about sex, but not of age to make decisions about marriage?
I've seen enough Marianne bashing on the S&S board over the years to know that few (if any) readers find her faultless. Her own romantic notions and her immaturity too contributed to her disappointment. She, thank goodness, wizened up when she reflected during her illness. Her plan of making amends was perhaps as eager in the other direction, but that is just her nature.
As far as Willoughby's bad motives, I agree that it is not necessary to apply them to everything he does. His confession speaks for itself. He complains that Col. Brandon might present him as capable of anything. Col. Brandon didn't have to lie to prove this, Willoughby's behavior speaks for itself. It's bad enough as it is. I also don't believe W was lying in his confession. If he was, surely he'd make himself sound better than he did. When pressed, I think he is a bad liar, and skirts rather than have to answer directly.
He stopt. Mrs. Dashwood was too much astonished to speak, and another pause succeeded. This was broken by Willoughby, who said with a faint smile, "It is folly to linger in this manner. I will not torment myself any longer by remaining among friends whose society it is impossible for me now to enjoy."
and another in ch. 44
"I do not know what I told her," he replied, impatiently; "less than was due to the past, beyond a doubt, and in all likelihood much more than was justified by the future. I cannot think of it -- it won't do.
I think the most outright lie in the confession or close to it is this
"But, upon my soul, I did not know it," he warmly replied; "I did not recollect that I had omitted to give her my direction; and common-sense might have told her how to find it out."
Regardless of the letter of the law, Col. Brandon found his crime so horrid, that knowing Willoughby was going to get off scot free, he sought to punish him in the only way available to him, a duel.
I think Elinor has the right of it when she says to Willoughby
This GR has been very enlightening and we've had a very in depth look at Willoughby. If we agree that he's a villain, then we can't too far apart in ideas. :-D
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