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September 2009 Group Read: Sense & Sensibility

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• Some structural points, just before we finish...   Anselm   (10/25/2009 11:49 a.m.)
  • Three thoughts.   Rachel G   (10/25/2009 2:06 p.m.)
• Thank you everyone for a wonderful GR.   Reeba   (10/23/2009 1:38 p.m.)
  • I haven't been able to participate much...   JoAnn   (10/26/2009 5:24 p.m.)
  • The lively discussion here is brilliant!   Kathryn Ann   (10/25/2009 10:35 p.m.)
  • Thanks!   Martina C   (10/25/2009 2:55 p.m.)
  • So many great insights!   Anselm   (10/25/2009 10:54 a.m.)
  • Thanks, Barbara ;-))...   Moni   (10/24/2009 6:35 p.m.)
  • Thank you all, especially Barbara; I'll be back for P&P (nfm)   Jeffrey   (10/24/2009 2:08 p.m.)
  • Thank you all and hope to see you at P&P Group Read! (nfm)   Outi   (10/24/2009 11:21 a.m.)
    • I'll miss you!!   Leah Noel   (10/24/2009 12:41 p.m.)
  • A great first group read!   Erica M.   (10/24/2009 10:59 a.m.)
  • Wonderful discussions, thanks everybody (nfm)   LouAnn   (10/24/2009 9:10 a.m.)
  • Thank you Barbara and you all for a wonderful discussion   Elbč   (10/24/2009 7:08 a.m.)
  • Say it ain't so!   nan duval   (10/23/2009 10:40 p.m.)
  • I've had so much fun!   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 9:56 p.m.)
  • Thanks Reeba! (:D)   Robbin   (10/23/2009 7:34 p.m.)
  • Thanks Barbara, Kathleen and Fellow GR-ers   BarbaraB   (10/23/2009 7:09 p.m.)
    • ^What BarbaraB said :-) [nfm]   Tarn   (10/25/2009 2:44 a.m.)
  • Thanks to everyone and especially Barbara!   Divya   (10/23/2009 5:12 p.m.)
  • Thank you for enlightening -   MarianneR   (10/23/2009 5:00 p.m.)
  • Thank you everybody.   Rachel G   (10/23/2009 4:33 p.m.)
  • Yes, Thank You   maud l   (10/23/2009 4:10 p.m.)
  • Ditto   Elizabeth K   (10/23/2009 3:32 p.m.)
  • Ditto everything Reeba said!   Cathy Allen   (10/23/2009 1:54 p.m.)
    • Thanks for the great discussions!   Ramya   (10/23/2009 3:27 p.m.)
• Who is this story all about?   TimLee   (10/23/2009 11:34 a.m.)
  • Knowing and not knowing   LouAnn   (10/23/2009 5:18 p.m.)
  • yes, who?   Jenn   (10/23/2009 12:01 p.m.)
    • Intricacies.   Rachel G   (10/23/2009 2:21 p.m.)
      • Excellent observatios, Rachael G....A "treasure hunt?"   Jeffrey   (10/23/2009 3:51 p.m.)
    • Agree...comparing and contrasting the sisters' differences   Jeffrey   (10/23/2009 12:48 p.m.)
      • A high point for Marianne   Mary Anne   (10/23/2009 10:13 p.m.)
      • Sisters   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 9:21 p.m.)
• Thanks, and focus wrap-up   Tom P2   (10/23/2009 8:15 a.m.)
  • Very interesting, Tom   Elizabeth K   (10/25/2009 6:37 a.m.)
  • Wow! Thanks, Tom, I'll enoy studying this! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/23/2009 1:56 p.m.)
  • Amazing   BarbaraB   (10/23/2009 10:01 a.m.)
  • Wow!!! That's hard work!!!   Reeba   (10/23/2009 9:47 a.m.)
    • Zeroes and threes and so on   Tom P2   (10/23/2009 5:31 p.m.)
      • Elinor near Lady Middleton   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 5:47 p.m.)
• Is Miss Steele's first name Anne, or Nancy?   Cathy Allen   (10/22/2009 10:30 p.m.)
  • Both. :-) Nancy can be a nickname for Anne. nfm   Tom P2   (10/22/2009 11:43 p.m.)
    • Thanks, Tom; I thought that might be it, but...   Cathy Allen   (10/23/2009 1:20 p.m.)
    • Thanks for clearing that up! I wondered too! nfm   Karen G   (10/23/2009 10:56 a.m.)
• What is it all about?   Rachel G   (10/22/2009 3:00 p.m.)
  • Moral lessons   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 9:37 p.m.)
  • Now that I've had time to ponder "what's it all about."   Jeffrey   (10/23/2009 8:46 a.m.)
    • That's a very good thought! Thanks. ;-) nfm   Rachel G   (10/23/2009 3:07 p.m.)
    • That's lovely and astute, Jeffrey, thank you!   Cathy Allen   (10/23/2009 1:31 p.m.)
  • You asked & answered your questions beautifully! (nfm)   Jeffrey   (10/22/2009 5:21 p.m.)
• Some surprises in Chapters 49 and 50 (long -- sorry!)   Cathy Allen   (10/21/2009 11:00 p.m.)
  • Agreed!   Nina RG   (10/22/2009 9:39 a.m.)
    • Ch50: Never so much said with such brevity! :-D (nfm)   Jeffrey   (10/23/2009 11:09 a.m.)
    • And more of warped Mrs. Ferrars   Barb JA   (10/22/2009 12:27 p.m.)
      • Add this one to Mrs. Ferrars too!   Jeffrey   (10/23/2009 8:19 a.m.)
      • This passage I like (not particularly a zinger, though) ;-)   Karen G   (10/22/2009 2:08 p.m.)
        • My take   Nina RG   (10/22/2009 4:29 p.m.)
          • Thanks   Karen G   (10/23/2009 10:55 a.m.)
• Group reading as an historical tradition (?)   Jeffrey   (10/21/2009 1:48 p.m.)
  • "...meant to be read aloud and shared ..."   Cathy Allen   (10/21/2009 11:08 p.m.)
    • Also, the audiobooks of JA's novels are WONDERFUL!   Cathy Allen   (10/22/2009 10:52 p.m.)
• Villains   Robbin   (10/21/2009 11:38 a.m.)
  • That is an excellent comparison   Ramya   (10/21/2009 12:09 p.m.)
    • Elinor is also a female dependent on the good will   Graciela   (10/21/2009 1:06 p.m.)
      • I am just trying to explain Lucy's active maliciousness   Ramya   (10/21/2009 1:49 p.m.)
        • Brilliant at getting invitations like Mrs. Elton! (nfm)   Jeffrey   (10/21/2009 4:08 p.m.)
        • cutting   Bridget D   (10/21/2009 3:34 p.m.)
          • She's rich enough now to snub them   Barbara   (10/21/2009 5:30 p.m.)
            • From fawning to repayment   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 5:06 p.m.)
• Do you recognise anything?.   Rachel G   (10/21/2009 11:33 a.m.)
  • Lucy Steele, John Dashwood and Fanny Dashwood   Divya   (10/21/2009 8:10 p.m.)
  • Willoughby   Barbara   (10/21/2009 5:36 p.m.)
• Earnest, unceasing attention to self-interest   Robbin   (10/21/2009 11:07 a.m.)
  • Active malice.   Rachel G   (10/21/2009 5:55 p.m.)
    • I agree   Robbin   (10/22/2009 9:11 p.m.)
    • Why does JA "reward" Lucy in the end?   MarianneR   (10/22/2009 4:38 a.m.)
      • I'm relaxed about her prosperity, because...   Tom P2   (10/22/2009 8:08 p.m.)
      • But do you envy Lucy?   kathleen (elder)   (10/22/2009 5:36 a.m.)
        • Lucy IS the punishment, more like... nfm   Elbč   (10/24/2009 10:59 a.m.)
        • Life is unfair.   Rachel G   (10/22/2009 6:08 a.m.)
          • Fairness of life   Karen G   (10/22/2009 10:05 a.m.)
            • Thanks for the quotation -   MarianneR   (10/23/2009 6:23 a.m.)
            • the harmony in which they all lived together   Kathryn Ann   (10/22/2009 10:40 a.m.)
              • I can just imagine this 'harmonious' domestic existence...   Elbč   (10/24/2009 10:57 a.m.)
• Summarizing my first "group read" experience...   Jeffrey   (10/21/2009 9:16 a.m.)
  • Hear, hear!   Elizabeth K   (10/22/2009 10:11 a.m.)
  • Getting on a roll   Clellie   (10/21/2009 5:42 p.m.)
    • Of course one could always...   Reeba   (10/22/2009 3:51 p.m.)
    • Best thing about group reads   Karen G   (10/22/2009 1:45 p.m.)
    • I've been on that roll and had to apply the brakes...   Jeffrey   (10/22/2009 9:17 a.m.)
    • I've emailed you a (LONG!) response (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/21/2009 11:46 p.m.)
    • Different ways to experience a novel.   Rachel G   (10/21/2009 6:53 p.m.)
  • I so agree   BarbaraB   (10/21/2009 10:00 a.m.)
    • This was my first time too   Outi   (10/21/2009 10:36 a.m.)
      • My sentiments   Kathryn Ann   (10/21/2009 4:40 p.m.)
• Lucy gets her reward   Barb JA   (10/19/2009 8:52 a.m.)
  • J.A. at her subtle underwhelming finest here! (nfm)   Jeffrey   (10/21/2009 8:51 a.m.)
  • & Robert gets to Dawlish,   nan duval   (10/19/2009 12:19 p.m.)
    • Excellent notion! :-) nfm   Barb JA   (10/20/2009 7:43 a.m.)
    • LOL, nan!   Cathy Allen   (10/19/2009 12:43 p.m.)
  • Lucy's letter   LouAnn   (10/19/2009 11:55 a.m.)
    • Her letters   Nina RG   (10/19/2009 12:10 p.m.)
      • Also another   Helen B   (10/20/2009 9:54 a.m.)
        • I agree. *nfm*   MarianneR   (10/21/2009 3:58 a.m.)
      • "Keep the ring" shows that Lucy is magnanimous-LOL (nfm   Cathy Allen   (10/19/2009 12:41 p.m.)
        • Ah! Of course. Thanks, Cathy Allen! (nfm)   Nina RG   (10/20/2009 8:47 a.m.)
• Did Sophia write the Letter?   Robbin   (10/19/2009 1:21 a.m.)
  • Do we have any...   Reeba   (10/21/2009 2:55 p.m.)
    • Sophia’s character & forgetting the letter   Robbin   (10/23/2009 12:40 p.m.)
      • I had not noticed ....   Rachel G   (10/23/2009 3:13 p.m.)
        • He reminded Elinor of it several paragraphs earlier, though   Tom P2   (10/23/2009 5:04 p.m.)
          • Thanks for pointing that out (:D) nfm   Robbin   (10/23/2009 7:18 p.m.)
          • So he did!   Rachel G   (10/23/2009 5:46 p.m.)
    • Older woman?   Graciela   (10/21/2009 3:31 p.m.)
      • Older than Marianne and Eliza?   Barbara   (10/21/2009 5:09 p.m.)
  • It felt like it might be a sham...   Clellie M.   (10/20/2009 10:55 p.m.)
    • nothing is ever his fault   Karen G   (10/22/2009 1:59 p.m.)
    • Please just use Clellie when you post...   Candace   (10/21/2009 1:04 a.m.)
  • The infamous letter? A join effort, I think,   Rachel G   (10/19/2009 8:33 p.m.)
    • W needed Sophia more than she needed him   Barb JA   (10/20/2009 7:33 a.m.)
  • one point I'm sure is Sophia's...   Heather Leigh   (10/19/2009 4:04 p.m.)
  • Interesting question!   Louise H   (10/19/2009 11:42 a.m.)
    • I think both had a hand in it   LouAnn   (10/19/2009 11:49 a.m.)
      • But that actually necessitates another assumption...   Melissa K   (10/20/2009 1:32 p.m.)
        • the hair and the letters   LouAnn   (10/20/2009 2:58 p.m.)
          • He had to return them, I think.   Melissa K.   (10/20/2009 7:23 p.m.)
            • He could have lied, though   LouAnn   (10/21/2009 7:53 a.m.)
              • I wonder if Willoughby would have answered   kathleen (elder)   (10/21/2009 12:33 p.m.)
            • Would it not have broke your heart...   Clellie M.   (10/20/2009 11:06 p.m.)
              • Clellie, please remember to post as "Clellie"   Laurel   (10/21/2009 7:46 a.m.)
• Eliza’s Situation   Robbin   (10/19/2009 12:39 a.m.)
  • note use of passive voice   LouAnn   (10/20/2009 3:39 p.m.)
    • Good point! nfm   Karen G   (10/22/2009 1:48 p.m.)
    • I agree.   nan duval   (10/20/2009 6:24 p.m.)
  • I think WORTHLESS is an excellent description of W; thanks Robbin   Cathy Allen   (10/19/2009 11:05 a.m.)
  • Eliza's situation and character   Bridget D   (10/19/2009 7:06 a.m.)
• Dear Agony Aunt,   Anselm   (10/18/2009 1:54 p.m.)
  • Dear Anselm...   Cathy Allen   (10/19/2009 5:17 p.m.)
    • Dear Cathy Allen   Anselm   (10/20/2009 11:43 a.m.)
      • A reader's response.   Rachel G   (10/20/2009 7:11 p.m.)
        • You have calmed my worries, too!   Outi   (10/21/2009 5:42 a.m.)
• Somber heroes   Barb JA   (10/18/2009 11:43 a.m.)
  • Brandon & Marianne - Show, don't tell.   Rachel G   (10/18/2009 7:03 p.m.)
    • Marianne's new awareness.   nan duval   (10/23/2009 10:29 p.m.)
    • Passage of time   Barb JA   (10/20/2009 10:14 a.m.)
      • Showing interaction and synergy.   Rachel G   (10/20/2009 2:01 p.m.)
        • Interaction   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 4:33 p.m.)
• Ch. 49. A change of mood.   Rachel G   (10/18/2009 6:27 a.m.)
  • Raptures   Barb JA   (10/18/2009 10:09 a.m.)
    • Ironic, isn't it? *snicker* (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/19/2009 2:04 p.m.)
• Elinor Tormented by her Love for Edward. (Long)   Rachel G   (10/16/2009 2:46 p.m.)
  • Chronic pain   Barb JA   (10/17/2009 10:46 a.m.)
    • Emma Thompson's Elinor   kate lyle   (10/19/2009 1:24 p.m.)
  • "E lets rip at her a bit"   TimLee   (10/16/2009 4:30 p.m.)
• It's not what we say or feel, but what we do.   Barb JA   (10/16/2009 9:19 a.m.)
  • Actions Speak Louder than Words   Kathryn Ann   (10/17/2009 1:02 p.m.)
• When Charm cannot Serve   Robbin   (10/14/2009 9:53 p.m.)
  • An excellent and insightful observation...   Jeffrey   (10/15/2009 5:26 p.m.)
    • Picture this: Rickman as Col. B answers the door, ...   TimLee   (10/15/2009 6:37 p.m.)
      • One can only hope   nan duval   (10/16/2009 6:17 p.m.)
        • How graphic!   TimLee   (10/16/2009 7:13 p.m.)
      • Willoughby opens the door to see...   Barbara   (10/16/2009 10:24 a.m.)
        • Ahhh...sublime, under any circumstances; thanks, Barbara! nfm   Cathy Allen   (10/16/2009 3:52 p.m.)
        • Oh! My! Word!   TimLee   (10/16/2009 10:50 a.m.)
      • Thanks for the laugh, TimLee! :-) (nfm)   Elizabeth K   (10/16/2009 8:21 a.m.)
      • LOL! Excellent!   Mary Anne   (10/15/2009 11:24 p.m.)
  • Elinor's reaction, Willoughby's plan of action   TimLee   (10/15/2009 11:13 a.m.)
    • LOL! If only Mr. Palmer MIGHT have done so... (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/15/2009 2:10 p.m.)
    • I agree, TimLee   Elizabeth K   (10/15/2009 1:13 p.m.)
  • If it was, what does this imply   Anselm   (10/15/2009 7:26 a.m.)
    • I am unsure   Robbin   (10/18/2009 1:10 a.m.)
      • Well, to be perfectly blunt...   Anselm   (10/19/2009 5:09 p.m.)
        • Eliza loved Willoughby   kathleen (elder)   (10/19/2009 5:53 p.m.)
• "Hamlet", to whom it may concern.   Anselm   (10/13/2009 10:02 a.m.)
  • The ghost of Hamlet's father   Barbara   (10/13/2009 10:32 a.m.)
    • Fathers and the lack of them   Mary Anne   (10/14/2009 8:25 a.m.)
    • Most interesting connection, thank you Anselm & Barbara! (nfm   Cathy Allen   (10/13/2009 4:10 p.m.)
      • What exactly did their treatment of "Hamlet" consist of   Anselm   (10/14/2009 4:55 a.m.)
        • The whole family   Barbara   (10/14/2009 11:24 a.m.)
          • Reading it in parts   Elizabeth K   (10/15/2009 11:05 a.m.)
            • Indeed she did.   Anselm   (10/16/2009 3:19 a.m.)
              • Thanks, Anselm   Elizabeth K   (10/16/2009 8:19 a.m.)
          • I would say...   Anselm   (10/15/2009 6:51 a.m.)
            • I said Margaret (nfm)   Barbara   (10/15/2009 10:27 a.m.)
              • Oops - sorry! nfm   Anselm   (10/16/2009 3:08 a.m.)
    • Hamlet   Rachel G   (10/13/2009 2:54 p.m.)
• I think in Ch.44 Willoughby is 'genuine' ...   Rachel G   (10/12/2009 8:50 p.m.)
  • Most of the posters in this and related threads   Anselm   (10/14/2009 4:40 a.m.)
    • too negative   Bridget D   (10/15/2009 4:14 a.m.)
      • Negative view of Willoughby   Robbin   (10/15/2009 8:04 p.m.)
        • Willoughby again   Bridget D   (10/16/2009 4:44 a.m.)
          • Willougby and Edward   Bridget D   (10/16/2009 5:30 a.m.)
            • Molest Them?   Robbin   (10/18/2009 1:30 a.m.)
              • Sorry I made a mistake   Bridget D   (10/18/2009 7:34 a.m.)
                • You know   Karen G   (10/19/2009 5:33 p.m.)
                • Thank you   Robbin   (10/19/2009 2:04 a.m.)
              • That's Also What I Thought   maud l   (10/18/2009 3:55 a.m.)
        • I'm not sure where the onus of proof is, but...   Tom P2   (10/15/2009 11:38 p.m.)
          • *The* proof...   Reeba   (10/21/2009 1:38 p.m.)
            • Is your 'proof of pudding' the same as my term 'conduct'? nfm   Tom P2   (10/21/2009 6:06 p.m.)
              • I'm not really sure...   Reeba   (10/22/2009 3:49 p.m.)
          • Well put!   Outi   (10/16/2009 1:19 p.m.)
          • Proof   Ivonne   (10/16/2009 10:25 a.m.)
          • Great points, Tom P2   Ramya   (10/16/2009 9:29 a.m.)
          • Willoughby as Villain   Bridget D   (10/16/2009 4:33 a.m.)
            • Drawing the calculating line in the sand   Robbin   (10/21/2009 12:05 p.m.)
              • willougby   Bridget D   (10/21/2009 3:16 p.m.)
                • Willoughby’s Intent   Robbin   (10/22/2009 11:04 a.m.)
                  • Respectable rakes and illicit careers   Barb JA   (10/22/2009 11:58 a.m.)
            • Flirtation   Barb JA   (10/16/2009 12:42 p.m.)
              • flirting   Bridget D   (10/16/2009 1:56 p.m.)
            • Flirts and selfish men   Elizabeth K   (10/16/2009 8:49 a.m.)
              • Flirting and selfish men   Bridget D   (10/17/2009 6:13 a.m.)
                • Flirtation versus Courtship   Robbin   (10/21/2009 12:24 p.m.)
                  • Willoughby and marrianne   Bridget D   (10/22/2009 7:20 a.m.)
                    • Adult guidance.. and further rambling   Barb JA   (10/22/2009 11:01 a.m.)
                      • Age of Consent   Bridget D   (10/23/2009 7:10 a.m.)
                        • Age disparity   Barb JA   (10/23/2009 12:39 p.m.)
                          • Adult guidance   Bridget D   (10/24/2009 2:52 a.m.)
                            • You seem to think that only foolish and/or immoral   kathleen (elder)   (10/24/2009 7:22 a.m.)
                              • Agree with Kathleen (elder)   maud l   (10/24/2009 11:09 p.m.)
                                • pregnancy   Bridget D   (10/25/2009 3:58 a.m.)
                                  • You are very, very harsh on these people, then   kathleen (elder)   (10/25/2009 6:36 a.m.)
                                    • I agree, Kathleen   Elizabeth K   (10/25/2009 6:39 a.m.)
                                  • Actually, Bridget D, it did happen in Jane Austen's world   Elizabeth K   (10/25/2009 6:35 a.m.)
                                    • carryings on   Bridget D   (10/25/2009 6:55 a.m.)
                                  • As this discussion is still going on, I feel   Reeba   (10/25/2009 6:30 a.m.)
                                    • One minor point -- do we know the gender of Eliza's   kathleen (elder)   (10/25/2009 6:50 a.m.)
                                      • oooops!! :-/ nfm   Reeba   (10/25/2009 10:55 a.m.)
                                    • Indiscretion   Bridget D   (10/25/2009 6:44 a.m.)
                                      • When you say..   Reeba   (10/25/2009 10:57 a.m.)
                                      • Oh dear, getting drawn in again....;-)   Elizabeth K   (10/25/2009 6:53 a.m.)
                                        • well to return to the basic S&S situation   Bridget D   (10/25/2009 7:11 a.m.)
                                        • And we are getting further off topic :-)   kathleen (elder)   (10/25/2009 6:55 a.m.)
                                          • Sorry, Kathleen. :-) Such an absorbing topic! ;-) (nfm)   Elizabeth K   (10/25/2009 7:25 a.m.)
                            • Re ; 'her friend's father'.   Rachel G   (10/24/2009 3:52 a.m.)
                              • Friend's father   Bridget D   (10/24/2009 8:42 a.m.)
                                • Parental Authority & Income   Robbin   (10/24/2009 12:50 p.m.)
                                  • Eliza and her friend's foolishness   Bridget D   (10/25/2009 3:53 a.m.)
                                    • Friend's of Eliza   Robbin   (10/25/2009 11:47 p.m.)
                                    • Slight mistake   Bridget D   (10/25/2009 5:54 a.m.)
                    • Different opinions...   Rachel G   (10/22/2009 9:31 a.m.)
                      • Willoughy in book   Bridget D   (10/22/2009 2:50 p.m.)
                        • Bridget D....   Elizabeth K   (10/22/2009 3:19 p.m.)
                  • Well reasoned & well put. nfm   nan duval   (10/21/2009 4:10 p.m.)
          • Interpreting Willoughby   Rachel G   (10/16/2009 1:39 a.m.)
      • I think the reason many of us hate Willoughby...   Elizabeth K   (10/15/2009 4:30 a.m.)
        • honourable gentleman   Bridget D   (10/15/2009 4:45 a.m.)
          • I suppose it depends on the way one looks at it (long)   Elizabeth K   (10/15/2009 8:52 a.m.)
          • Good analogy- foolish victim & opportunist Criminal : -) nfm   Barb JA   (10/15/2009 8:35 a.m.)
    • Actually it isn´t fair...   MarianneR   (10/14/2009 3:42 p.m.)
    • Elinors opinion of the confession   Barb JA   (10/14/2009 10:04 a.m.)
      • Once Elinor gains some perspective...   Barbara   (10/14/2009 12:58 p.m.)
        • Willoughby's Guilt - What was JA's intention?   Rachel G   (10/16/2009 1:14 a.m.)
        • Do you think it odd though...   Barb JA   (10/14/2009 6:13 p.m.)
        • Willoughby only regrets what has made him unhappy...   Cathy Allen   (10/14/2009 3:02 p.m.)
  • Nobody denies the painful, genuine....   Reeba   (10/13/2009 5:06 a.m.)
    • Just so!   Rachel G   (10/13/2009 6:39 a.m.)
  • don't necessarily disagree   Karen G.   (10/12/2009 11:57 p.m.)
    • A "geniune" performer - sounds a little like Marianne?   Anselm   (10/13/2009 9:43 a.m.)
      • a difference   Karen G   (10/13/2009 10:01 a.m.)
        • Humbled....humbled....humility. Aha!!!!   Anselm   (10/13/2009 11:59 a.m.)
          • drama queen   Karen G.   (10/13/2009 11:58 p.m.)
            • OK, fair cop!   Anselm   (10/14/2009 5:09 a.m.)
              • I must have too much share of the conversation ;)   Karen G   (10/14/2009 1:29 p.m.)
                • Marianne’s Mindset   Robbin   (10/14/2009 8:26 p.m.)
                  • I definitely agree.   Anselm   (10/15/2009 6:27 a.m.)
    • Mrs. Smith as part of his drama   LouAnn   (10/13/2009 7:30 a.m.)
    • Willoughby the Performer.   Rachel G   (10/13/2009 3:56 a.m.)
      • I very much agree with you, Rachel G   Outi   (10/13/2009 12:25 p.m.)
        • Many Bad Sides   Robbin   (10/14/2009 2:11 a.m.)
        • And Willoughby agrees with you. ;-)   Reeba   (10/13/2009 3:18 p.m.)
• Col. Brandon sinks in John Dashwood's esteem.   nan duval   (10/12/2009 8:06 p.m.)
  • Fortune & Willoughby   Robbin   (10/14/2009 8:51 p.m.)
  • Happy thought indeed!   Mary Anne   (10/13/2009 8:04 a.m.)
  • The gift of a living   Barbara   (10/12/2009 9:08 p.m.)
• Gentle reminder re: spoilers   Barbara   (10/11/2009 5:45 p.m.)
• Reconciling a few passages   Barb JA   (10/11/2009 10:03 a.m.)
  • Sister, Sister   Robbin   (10/13/2009 10:03 a.m.)
  • Upset because Marianne's upset; difficult to set Lucy down   Tom P2   (10/11/2009 9:33 p.m.)
    • Thank you Tom P2 and Robbin   Barb JA   (10/16/2009 10:38 a.m.)
      • Chapter 37   Tom P2   (10/17/2009 3:34 a.m.)
        • Elinor's confidante   Barb JA   (10/17/2009 9:31 a.m.)
• Volumes   Anselm   (10/10/2009 10:14 a.m.)
  • Ebbs and flows   Barb JA   (10/17/2009 9:02 a.m.)
    • Something a writer would notice...   Anselm   (10/18/2009 12:21 p.m.)
      • All volumes at once   Barb JA   (10/20/2009 7:41 a.m.)
  • Magnificent work, Anselm, thank you! -nfm   Ivonne   (10/16/2009 6:55 p.m.)
  • How interesting -   MarianneR   (10/11/2009 8:01 a.m.)
    • Jane Austen's mental work   Anselm   (10/12/2009 7:49 a.m.)
  • More symmetry: two love triangles, and unburdening onto Elinor   Tom P2   (10/10/2009 10:20 p.m.)
  • never notice the Willoughby division   LouAnn   (10/10/2009 10:23 a.m.)
• Robert’s Sneakiness   Robbin   (10/10/2009 3:28 a.m.)
  • I doubt she needs his help   CarolTS   (10/10/2009 1:54 p.m.)
  • cruel to his mother   LouAnn   (10/10/2009 9:07 a.m.)
• Grand Gesture   Robbin   (10/10/2009 3:11 a.m.)
  • Willoughby v Wickham   Anselm   (10/11/2009 9:38 a.m.)
    • Willoghby's genuineness.   Reeba   (10/12/2009 12:25 p.m.)
      • Yes, of course....well....maybe.   Anselm   (10/12/2009 1:57 p.m.)
        • Thank you Anselm. nfm   Reeba   (10/12/2009 5:14 p.m.)
    • The real reason for Willoughby's trip is even creepier   Barbara   (10/12/2009 12:08 p.m.)
      • Disposable Women   Robbin   (10/14/2009 4:37 p.m.)
      • Does Willoughby want to have Marianne   Ramya   (10/13/2009 12:25 p.m.)
      • Well put.   Rachel G   (10/12/2009 8:45 p.m.)
    • Willoughby's journey to Elinor   Bridget D   (10/12/2009 1:58 a.m.)
    • Willoughby is a narcissist   Divya   (10/11/2009 4:19 p.m.)
      • Willoughby's narcissism infected Marianne.   nan duval   (10/12/2009 8:25 p.m.)
    • He had business at Combe Magna.   Reeba   (10/11/2009 3:44 p.m.)
      • Willoughby and forgiveness   Mary Anne   (10/11/2009 8:29 p.m.)
        • How could I ever think otherwise :-)   Reeba   (10/12/2009 6:42 a.m.)
      • Point #3 - his *lie*   CarolTS   (10/11/2009 6:50 p.m.)
        • Yes, an ironic statement   Barb JA   (10/12/2009 11:07 a.m.)
          • PS. I too enjoyed the rest of the stages Reeba. nfm   Barb JA   (10/12/2009 11:50 a.m.)
            • Yes, I do believe..   Reeba   (10/12/2009 5:14 p.m.)
    • Is Willoughby just acting impulsively?   kathleen (elder)   (10/11/2009 2:52 p.m.)
  • Suspense!   Mary Anne   (10/10/2009 10:25 a.m.)
    • As a first-time reader, having only seen the adaptations...   Cathy Allen   (10/12/2009 11:32 a.m.)
    • Elinor was worried about this too.   Barbara   (10/11/2009 6:27 p.m.)
  • "I am very drunk"   Rachel G   (10/10/2009 6:27 a.m.)
    • Willougby's journey   Bridget D   (10/11/2009 7:44 a.m.)
      • Cutting the Cad   Robbin   (10/11/2009 2:16 p.m.)
      • Feeling guilty? I don't think so.   Reeba   (10/11/2009 11:07 a.m.)
• She shall forgive me again, and on more reasonable grounds   Robbin   (10/10/2009 3:05 a.m.)
  • Comparing confessions. (longish)   nan duval   (10/16/2009 11:18 p.m.)
    • Great summary -   MarianneR   (10/21/2009 4:21 a.m.)
    • Lovely summary of Marianne's repentance, nfm   Barb JA   (10/17/2009 8:35 a.m.)
      • I agree. Nan you are so clever! nfm (:D)   Robbin   (10/18/2009 12:17 a.m.)
  • How can one even think of it...   Reeba   (10/11/2009 5:14 p.m.)
    • PS: There's a time to play, and a time to work....   Reeba   (10/13/2009 10:05 a.m.)
      • Monster behind the Mask   Robbin   (10/13/2009 5:35 p.m.)
    • A comfort to W to know how M would look dead?   Cathy Allen   (10/12/2009 11:13 a.m.)
  • So how could Elinor and Marianne forgive him?   MarianneR   (10/11/2009 2:04 p.m.)
    • Why wouldn't Elinor forgive?   Outi   (10/12/2009 2:32 p.m.)
      • Unmerited Forgiveness   Robbin   (10/14/2009 12:38 a.m.)
      • Elinor's attitude towards Willoughby   LouAnn   (10/12/2009 3:03 p.m.)
    • Elinor is in a vulnerable state of mind.   Reeba   (10/11/2009 4:08 p.m.)
      • Marrying Eliza   Bridget D   (10/12/2009 1:53 a.m.)
        • He Had Finished With Her   maud l   (10/12/2009 1:58 a.m.)
          • intent to marry   Bridget D   (10/12/2009 2:11 a.m.)
            • In defence of Eliza   Elizabeth K   (10/12/2009 6:29 a.m.)
              • Eliza's fault?   Bridget D   (10/15/2009 4:23 a.m.)
                • If we knew when Eliza's birthday was...   Cathy Allen   (10/15/2009 11:11 a.m.)
                  • Statutory   Bridget D   (10/15/2009 1:18 p.m.)
                    • Willoughby and Eliza (again!)   Elizabeth K   (10/16/2009 8:42 a.m.)
                      • Marianne seduced   CarolTS   (10/16/2009 5:37 p.m.)
                        • Even good girls can be weak on occasion :-)   kathleen (elder)   (10/16/2009 5:52 p.m.)
                          • Marianne   BarbaraB   (10/17/2009 11:27 a.m.)
                          • Rationalizing her behaviour   Barbara   (10/16/2009 9:23 p.m.)
                            • Marianne seduced?   Bridget D   (10/17/2009 5:22 a.m.)
                              • So, no good, moral young woman every gave in   kathleen (elder)   (10/17/2009 5:43 a.m.)
                                • I agree   Robbin   (10/18/2009 12:15 a.m.)
                                • Of course they did!   Outi   (10/17/2009 10:30 a.m.)
                                  • I agree   Ramya   (10/17/2009 12:26 p.m.)
                                • Jane Austen's Marianne   Bridget D   (10/17/2009 6:06 a.m.)
                                  • Any Marianne   BarbaraB   (10/17/2009 1:54 p.m.)
                                    • Marianne as seducible   Bridget D   (10/18/2009 7:31 a.m.)
                                      • Austen's heroines   Elizabeth K   (10/18/2009 11:38 a.m.)
                                        • principles versus convention   Bridget D   (10/19/2009 7:09 a.m.)
                                          • Time to stop this discussion   kathleen (elder)   (10/19/2009 7:36 a.m.)
                                  • I think many young women, including fictional   kathleen (elder)   (10/17/2009 7:08 a.m.)
                            • If loving you is wrong, I don't want to be right   TimLee   (10/16/2009 10:46 p.m.)
                          • Good Point   maud l   (10/16/2009 6:06 p.m.)
                      • well I'll agree to disagree   Bridget D   (10/16/2009 2:08 p.m.)
                    • Which is exactly what you've been saying   CarolTS   (10/15/2009 5:11 p.m.)
                  • Exactly, Cathy Allen.   Elizabeth K   (10/15/2009 1:14 p.m.)
            • She had no money   kathleen (elder)   (10/12/2009 6:26 a.m.)
              • I wonder...   Barbara   (10/12/2009 12:18 p.m.)
              • Exactly.   nan duval   (10/12/2009 10:09 a.m.)
      • She's also had next to no sleep   Barbara   (10/11/2009 5:56 p.m.)
    • Elinor's forgiveness.   Rachel G   (10/11/2009 3:37 p.m.)
      • Distraction; Elinor's wedge (part 2); cooler reflection in ch45   Tom P2   (10/11/2009 6:44 p.m.)
  • Forgiving Willoughby   Rachel G   (10/10/2009 8:46 p.m.)
    • I think he's actrually...   Reeba   (10/11/2009 4:13 p.m.)
  • Does ANYONE agree that W explained himself? Let's vote!   Cathy Allen   (10/10/2009 4:15 p.m.)
    • No, I don't, because...   Reeba   (10/11/2009 3:08 p.m.)
    • Taking your question literally...   Rachel G   (10/10/2009 8:49 p.m.)
      • Excuse me, does ANYONE feel that W vindicated himself?   Cathy Allen   (10/11/2009 12:55 p.m.)
        • My apologies, Cathy Allen.   Rachel G   (10/11/2009 1:21 p.m.)
      • I like your summary very much, Rachel G   Outi   (10/11/2009 5:08 a.m.)
      • WIllougby's repentance   Bridget D   (10/11/2009 5:05 a.m.)
        • Unrepentant Wrongdoer   Robbin   (10/13/2009 9:40 a.m.)
        • Like a child   Barbara   (10/11/2009 6:08 p.m.)
          • More like a spoilt brat. One of Lady M's own :-D nfm   Reeba   (10/12/2009 6:48 a.m.)
          • Yeah, he lost the package deal   Karen G.   (10/11/2009 10:35 p.m.)
            • And of course, the spoiled brat   nan duval   (10/12/2009 10:12 a.m.)
              • Ooooo -- VERY well said, nan! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/12/2009 10:44 a.m.)
    • No   maud l   (10/10/2009 5:46 p.m.)
  • What this says about Willoughby---and Brandon   Mary Anne   (10/10/2009 10:15 a.m.)
    • The horsewhip? I believe that TimLee has it.   Graciela   (10/11/2009 11:22 p.m.)
    • Comparing the confessions   Barbara   (10/11/2009 6:21 p.m.)
      • Dread of One Event   Robbin   (10/14/2009 12:31 a.m.)
        • Omission of the duel.   Rachel G   (10/14/2009 1:34 p.m.)
          • But weren't duels illegal?   Outi   (10/16/2009 1:33 p.m.)
            • Very true.   Rachel G   (10/16/2009 1:55 p.m.)
          • Willoughby's dread of Marianne's marriage   Barbara   (10/14/2009 2:40 p.m.)
            • Col Brandon’s Advantage   Robbin   (10/14/2009 8:47 p.m.)
              • Money again...   MarianneR   (10/15/2009 4:47 a.m.)
      • further comparison   Karen G.   (10/11/2009 10:24 p.m.)
        • I like the word *performer* for Willoughby. nfm   Reeba   (10/12/2009 12:53 p.m.)
      • No embellishments   Mary Anne   (10/11/2009 8:15 p.m.)
    • Excellent analysis   Reeba   (10/11/2009 4:19 p.m.)
    • Wonderful insight, nfm   Barb JA   (10/11/2009 8:56 a.m.)
• Love & Marriage   Robbin   (10/10/2009 2:56 a.m.)
  • I'm not convinced that...   Reeba   (10/10/2009 2:48 p.m.)
    • Yes, very true!   Robbin   (10/10/2009 10:50 p.m.)
  • Marianne at the back of the queue.   Rachel G   (10/10/2009 11:33 a.m.)
    • Very well said. (:D) nfm   Robbin   (10/14/2009 12:58 a.m.)
    • The secret engagement and how many other girls   Barbara   (10/11/2009 5:42 p.m.)
      • Secret Engagement   BarbaraB   (10/11/2009 11:41 p.m.)
• Elinor´s commission   MarianneR   (10/9/2009 10:34 a.m.)
  • Motives of equal delicacy   Barbara   (10/11/2009 5:33 p.m.)
  • Thank you everybody - your opinions make sense! *nfm*   MarianneR   (10/11/2009 7:41 a.m.)
  • I can't think of any other person.   Reeba   (10/10/2009 3:05 p.m.)
  • On the principle of romantic love   Barbara   (10/9/2009 12:31 p.m.)
    • Okay, I haven´t seen the connection   MarianneR   (10/9/2009 4:37 p.m.)
      • I don't see it as illogical   CarolTS   (10/9/2009 6:34 p.m.)
  • Matchmaking? When Edward is engaged to Lucy?   kathleen (elder)   (10/9/2009 11:37 a.m.)
    • He has met Edward   Barbara   (10/9/2009 12:33 p.m.)
      • but he hasn't met Lucy!   Heather Leigh   (10/9/2009 5:09 p.m.)
        • Perhaps he feels that Edward is deserving   Barbara   (10/9/2009 9:53 p.m.)
      • Oh that's right -- I knew he hadn't met him   kathleen (elder)   (10/9/2009 2:10 p.m.)
• Mr Palmer   Rachel G   (10/9/2009 8:17 a.m.)
  • "real humanity and good-nature"   Graciela   (10/13/2009 12:46 a.m.)
    • Unflattering portrait   Rachel G   (10/13/2009 4:06 a.m.)
  • Early peevishness and later graciousness   TimLee   (10/9/2009 1:59 p.m.)
    • Mr P as caricature   Bridget D   (10/11/2009 7:57 a.m.)
      • Well put   Louise H   (10/11/2009 2:47 p.m.)
        • Marianne's growth   TimLee   (10/12/2009 9:37 a.m.)
  • Fatherhood perhaps?   Reeba   (10/9/2009 10:23 a.m.)
• Help needed for understanding...   Reeba   (10/9/2009 6:41 a.m.)
  • How I read it   kathleen (elder)   (10/9/2009 6:52 a.m.)
    • Thanks for ...   Reeba   (10/9/2009 10:21 a.m.)
• Chapter 37: more JA slyness   LouAnn   (10/8/2009 4:52 p.m.)
  • Unfeeling   Barb JA   (10/10/2009 8:53 a.m.)
    • PS. Another revelation about John D   Barb JA   (10/10/2009 9:06 a.m.)
  • It was a relief...   Reeba   (10/9/2009 10:26 a.m.)
• Chapter 40: the marriage misunderstanding   LouAnn   (10/8/2009 4:03 p.m.)
  • What would have happened if she gossiped?   Graciela   (10/14/2009 5:32 p.m.)
  • Point of view switch   Barbara   (10/9/2009 1:10 a.m.)
  • Let's get personal...   Jeffrey   (10/8/2009 10:54 p.m.)
  • Frankly...   Karen G.   (10/8/2009 8:35 p.m.)
    • Col Brandon as hero   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 4:19 a.m.)
      • At first reading   MarianneR   (10/9/2009 9:39 a.m.)
    • Not that short a memory   CarolTS   (10/9/2009 3:35 a.m.)
      • She also knows a few things that would persuade her   Barbara   (10/9/2009 10:13 a.m.)
• Why is Fanny Dashwood such a nasty person?   Cathy Allen   (10/8/2009 12:17 p.m.)
  • That was wonderful!   Barb JA   (10/11/2009 11:43 a.m.)
  • Very interesting essay; thanks for sharing CA (nfm)   TimLee   (10/9/2009 1:10 p.m.)
  • Great fun, thanks! -nfm   Ivonne   (10/8/2009 10:08 p.m.)
  • This is great! (Harriet Walter is a goddess)   Heather Leigh   (10/8/2009 12:30 p.m.)
    • In the movie she was in   CarolTS   (10/8/2009 12:59 p.m.)
• Card-playing a lost art...   Jeffrey   (10/7/2009 10:52 p.m.)
• Les Liaisons Dangereuses   Barbara   (10/6/2009 5:17 p.m.)
• Ch.37 Elinor tells it like it is - Marianne is chastened.   Rachel G   (10/6/2009 2:44 p.m.)
  • Marianne's long absent self-insight finally shows up to the party   TimLee   (10/6/2009 4:45 p.m.)
• Ch.37 Uproar at Harley Street   Rachel G   (10/6/2009 1:36 p.m.)
  • Get out the ear plugs! JA at her finest here (nfm)   Jeffrey   (10/7/2009 12:16 p.m.)
  • One of my favorites   TimLee   (10/6/2009 7:02 p.m.)
    • Mrs. Jennings wrong on 2 counts, right on 1   LouAnn   (10/7/2009 10:33 a.m.)
  • Viper in my bosom!   Barbara   (10/6/2009 2:03 p.m.)
• Heart of Gold   Robbin   (10/6/2009 9:46 a.m.)
  • To me Mrs Jennings...   Reeba   (10/8/2009 5:25 p.m.)
  • Such excellent posts on the merits of Mrs. Jennings...   Jeffrey   (10/7/2009 10:30 p.m.)
  • I so agree.   Barb JA   (10/6/2009 10:55 a.m.)
    • Great summary - thank you! *nfm*   MarianneR   (10/7/2009 9:19 a.m.)
    • Thank you for this, Barb, well done; thanks to ALL of you!   Cathy Allen   (10/6/2009 1:16 p.m.)
    • Mrs. Jennings and gossip   LouAnn   (10/6/2009 12:49 p.m.)
      • Good point! nfm   Rachel G   (10/6/2009 1:44 p.m.)
      • You are right   Barb JA   (10/6/2009 1:35 p.m.)
  • Mrs. Jennings   BarbaraB   (10/6/2009 10:51 a.m.)
• Where Delaford is situated   Graciela   (10/5/2009 10:25 p.m.)
  • He stays over at Barton Park   Barbara   (10/6/2009 1:47 p.m.)
    • Delaford   Rachel G   (10/6/2009 3:36 p.m.)
• Is anyone else glad that Mr. Donovan   nan duval   (10/5/2009 8:09 p.m.)
  • Mr Donovan   Rachel G   (10/6/2009 1:42 p.m.)
    • Vulture or gossip?   TimLee   (10/7/2009 11:51 a.m.)
• Robert Ferrars is excessively fond of cottages   Barbara   (10/5/2009 3:24 p.m.)
  • Are we supposed to draw a parallel?   TimLee   (10/6/2009 2:43 p.m.)
    • Interesting thought, Tim   Cathy Allen   (10/6/2009 7:30 p.m.)
    • Good eye   Erica M.   (10/6/2009 7:05 p.m.)
  • Such a know-it-all   LouAnn   (10/6/2009 12:54 p.m.)
    • Perhaps...   Rachel G   (10/6/2009 2:51 p.m.)
  • Thank you   Barb JA   (10/6/2009 10:11 a.m.)
    • Link for book   Barbara   (10/6/2009 2:05 p.m.)
  • Cottages -- !!!   Cathy Allen   (10/5/2009 7:50 p.m.)
  • One of my favourite ...   Reeba   (10/5/2009 4:44 p.m.)
• The Steele sisters' own brand of sense and sensibility   TimLee   (10/5/2009 12:34 p.m.)
• Humor says a LOT about certain characters...   Jeffrey   (10/5/2009 9:07 a.m.)
  • "a general want of understanding"   TimLee   (10/5/2009 11:08 a.m.)
• First person.   Reeba   (10/4/2009 7:48 a.m.)
  • "Thesis" of the novel in this paragraph?   Heather Leigh   (10/5/2009 12:56 a.m.)
    • I thought this one too   Barbara   (10/5/2009 11:49 a.m.)
      • Elinor is too generous sometimes...   Heather Leigh   (10/5/2009 1:16 p.m.)
      • It will be interesting to see where ...   TimLee   (10/5/2009 12:02 p.m.)
  • love it!   Heather Leigh   (10/5/2009 12:49 a.m.)
  • very intriguing   Ivonne   (10/4/2009 10:27 p.m.)
  • It's like talking to the readers :) (nfm)   Lex   (10/4/2009 7:52 a.m.)
    • New to Pemberley?   Myretta   (10/4/2009 8:02 a.m.)
• The Exeter Exchange   Barbara   (10/3/2009 11:10 p.m.)
  • If that quote's intentional by JA, It's HILARIOUS (NFM)   Jeffrey   (10/5/2009 12:04 p.m.)
  • Very informative post, again, thank you ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (10/5/2009 7:01 a.m.)
  • A lion cub in one's arms!   Louise H   (10/4/2009 5:39 p.m.)
  • Wild beasts ... like Mrs Ferrars   kate lyle   (10/4/2009 5:39 a.m.)
• Toothpick cases at Gray's   Barbara   (10/3/2009 11:02 p.m.)
  • A toothpick the perfect object to explain Robert Ferrars...   Jeffrey   (10/5/2009 8:55 a.m.)
    • Haha, how true -   MarianneR   (10/5/2009 3:26 p.m.)
  • Toothpick cases   kate lyle   (10/4/2009 5:35 a.m.)
    • Well said ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (10/5/2009 7:04 a.m.)
  • A LOL line, for sure   BarbaraB   (10/4/2009 1:20 a.m.)
    • Delicacy of his taste   Barb JA   (10/5/2009 8:32 a.m.)
      • His discrimination in toothpick cases   nan duval   (10/5/2009 7:49 p.m.)
        • LOL, Geography   Barb JA   (10/6/2009 9:53 a.m.)
  • What about the actual toothpick?   Cathy Allen   (10/3/2009 11:56 p.m.)
• Puppyism   Barbara   (10/3/2009 10:56 p.m.)
  • Johnson's 1828 definition of puppyism   Christopher   (10/4/2009 12:56 p.m.)
    • Excuse me for jumping in!   Line   (10/5/2009 11:03 a.m.)
      • That´s interesting.   MarianneR   (10/5/2009 3:13 p.m.)
      • Yes, I remember that post...   Reeba   (10/5/2009 12:36 p.m.)
  • Politician and advisor   Barb JA   (10/4/2009 12:08 p.m.)
    • Sorry, didn't read your post before I posted - nfm   Divya   (10/4/2009 12:40 p.m.)
      • No problem :-)   Barb JA   (10/5/2009 7:40 a.m.)
  • Puppyism   kate lyle   (10/4/2009 5:22 a.m.)
    • And I think it would...   Reeba   (10/4/2009 7:51 a.m.)
      • I agree, Reeba   Divya   (10/4/2009 12:39 p.m.)
• Liar, Liar, Pants on Fire: The Sequel   BarbaraB   (10/3/2009 9:09 p.m.)
  • The engagement   Nina RG   (10/5/2009 9:41 a.m.)
    • Getting Rid of Lucy: My Take   BarbaraB   (10/5/2009 3:13 p.m.)
    • Honorable deeds - dishonorable thoughts   Robbin   (10/5/2009 12:46 p.m.)
  • What a pair indeed!   Robbin   (10/4/2009 9:08 p.m.)
    • Hideaway huswife!   Ivonne   (10/4/2009 10:02 p.m.)
      • Thanks for the link, but unfortunately   MarianneR   (10/5/2009 3:38 a.m.)
        • I had the same problem...   Ivonne   (10/5/2009 11:00 a.m.)
  • And for Anne Steele to..   Lex   (10/4/2009 8:02 a.m.)
• Liar, liar, pants on fire!   Robbin   (10/3/2009 4:46 p.m.)
  • Should we feel sorry for John Dashwood?   Reeba   (10/4/2009 8:41 a.m.)
    • He's a villain   Barb JA   (10/5/2009 10:39 a.m.)
      • I absolutely agree   MarianneR   (10/5/2009 2:46 p.m.)
    • Yes and no.....   Jeffrey   (10/5/2009 8:40 a.m.)
    • Is it the thought that counts or the behavior?   Robbin   (10/4/2009 8:48 p.m.)
      • Elinor's wedge   Tom P2   (10/5/2009 12:42 a.m.)
      • Tofu   Ivonne   (10/4/2009 9:42 p.m.)
• Mrs Ferrars   BarbaraB   (10/3/2009 3:39 p.m.)
  • This apple didn't fall far from the tree.   nan duval   (10/3/2009 7:24 p.m.)
    • LOL -- thanks Nan! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/3/2009 11:32 p.m.)
  • Miserly and horrible   Barbara   (10/3/2009 4:01 p.m.)
    • Mrs F.   Rachel G   (10/3/2009 5:31 p.m.)
• Ye well-known trees: Who will remain to enjoy you?   Robbin   (10/3/2009 3:30 p.m.)
  • Yet Marianne was guilty of much the same behaviour...   Divya   (10/4/2009 12:33 p.m.)
    • Rather ill-judged   Robbin   (10/4/2009 9:40 p.m.)
    • Thank you for this very good insight. nfm   Barb JA   (10/4/2009 1:31 p.m.)
  • Walnut trees   Rachel G   (10/4/2009 4:19 a.m.)
  • Enclosing the common lands   Barbara   (10/3/2009 4:13 p.m.)
    • Thanks, Barbara. I had made a note to ask about this   Cathy Allen   (10/3/2009 11:26 p.m.)
    • Thank you!   Robbin   (10/3/2009 4:41 p.m.)
• The reprimand   TimLee   (10/2/2009 8:04 p.m.)
  • Better than that...   JoAnn   (10/9/2009 1:22 a.m.)
• Grandchild   Barbara   (10/1/2009 2:28 p.m.)
• Willoughby and Eliza: More questions than answers...   Jeffrey   (10/1/2009 12:36 p.m.)
  • Highly unlikely to be premeditated!   Barbara   (10/1/2009 1:31 p.m.)
  • Bath   CarolTS   (10/1/2009 1:26 p.m.)
    • Bath and Eliza   Bridget D   (10/3/2009 6:08 a.m.)
      • Bath   Rachel G   (10/3/2009 2:02 p.m.)
        • Eliza's mother   Barbara   (10/3/2009 3:55 p.m.)
          • Wondered if I had missed something!   CarolTS   (10/3/2009 3:59 p.m.)
            • Well....   Rachel G   (10/3/2009 5:14 p.m.)
              • A life of sin   Barbara   (10/3/2009 10:07 p.m.)
                • Eliza's life of sin   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 5:10 a.m.)
      • We know she wrote this book before Emma   CarolTS   (10/3/2009 12:50 p.m.)
    • Nuts! And I read Ch 31 so carefully, I thought....   Jeffrey   (10/1/2009 2:46 p.m.)
      • I would imagine...   Reeba   (10/1/2009 4:19 p.m.)
        • Good Point; Is Willoughby a "predator?"   Jeffrey   (10/1/2009 5:03 p.m.)
          • What about the girls?   Outi   (10/5/2009 2:42 p.m.)
            • Predators are Opportunists   Robbin   (10/5/2009 11:17 p.m.)
              • Willoughby's predatoriness   Bridget D   (10/6/2009 11:08 a.m.)
                • Come hither signals   Robbin   (10/7/2009 12:01 a.m.)
                  • girls   Bridget D   (10/7/2009 7:22 a.m.)
                    • Distant Relation & Wife Swapping   Robbin   (10/8/2009 4:32 p.m.)
                      • Wives   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 5:00 a.m.)
                    • 16 year old girls?   Barbara   (10/7/2009 10:25 a.m.)
                      • 16   Bridget D   (10/8/2009 7:13 a.m.)
                        • Right!! But...   Reeba   (10/8/2009 11:12 a.m.)
                        • Age of consent   Ivonne   (10/8/2009 9:22 a.m.)
                  • more and less seducible girls   Heather Leigh   (10/7/2009 12:38 a.m.)
                    • Lydia & Eliza   Robbin   (10/7/2009 11:00 a.m.)
                      • This theme of seducing 16 years old girls   Outi   (10/7/2009 3:30 p.m.)
                        • Sweet 16   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 4:26 a.m.)
                        • Victims & Villains   Robbin   (10/8/2009 4:46 p.m.)
                        • Double Standard   BarbaraB   (10/8/2009 11:17 a.m.)
                          • Double standard for reputation   Barbara   (10/8/2009 11:56 a.m.)
                        • Seduced   Bridget D   (10/8/2009 7:06 a.m.)
                      • Revising my initial view of the "predator" question   Heather Leigh   (10/7/2009 1:36 p.m.)
                        • Not sadistic   Robbin   (10/8/2009 4:35 p.m.)
                        • Predators   Bridget D   (10/8/2009 7:20 a.m.)
                          • Predators & Malicious Intent   Robbin   (10/9/2009 9:53 a.m.)
                          • Some Thoughts   BarbaraB   (10/8/2009 5:17 p.m.)
                            • A well-rounded summary, but   Outi   (10/9/2009 3:28 a.m.)
                              • Marianne was Seduced   Robbin   (10/9/2009 11:28 a.m.)
                                • Not much help needed   Outi   (10/9/2009 3:58 p.m.)
                                  • Marianne in love   Bridget D   (10/11/2009 8:08 a.m.)
                                    • Willoughby had no Right   Robbin   (10/12/2009 4:27 p.m.)
                                      • Agree nfm   BarbaraB   (10/12/2009 6:48 p.m.)
                                  • Seductions   Bridget D   (10/10/2009 3:41 a.m.)
                                  • Marianne broke her own heart?   Robbin   (10/9/2009 7:47 p.m.)
                                    • Marianne   kate lyle   (10/10/2009 5:26 a.m.)
                                    • I meant her heart was broken in the process   Outi   (10/10/2009 4:52 a.m.)
                                      • Oh dear!   Robbin   (10/10/2009 10:12 a.m.)
                                    • Broken hearts in modern times.   Rachel G   (10/10/2009 4:24 a.m.)
                                      • Protecting Hearts   Robbin   (10/11/2009 12:03 a.m.)
                                      • love and pain   Bridget D   (10/10/2009 4:39 a.m.)
                              • I agree Outi   Ramya   (10/9/2009 9:28 a.m.)
                            • Eliza etc   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 2:16 a.m.)
                            • Excellent thoughts. Thanks :-)   Reeba   (10/8/2009 6:16 p.m.)
                            • Hunting   Robbin   (10/8/2009 6:10 p.m.)
                          • I do too   Outi   (10/8/2009 3:23 p.m.)
                          • I do   CarolTS   (10/8/2009 12:56 p.m.)
                            • So do I.   Rachel G   (10/8/2009 5:00 p.m.)
                              • who's to blame   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 2:26 a.m.)
                                • Doling out the Blame   Robbin   (10/9/2009 12:55 p.m.)
                                  • Eliza and her friend   Bridget D   (10/10/2009 4:08 a.m.)
                                    • Weighing Responsibility   Robbin   (10/13/2009 4:20 p.m.)
                                      • ranging over town   Bridget D   (10/15/2009 5:04 a.m.)
                          • Even though I don't agree, I do ...   Reeba   (10/8/2009 11:08 a.m.)
                            • yes I agree about the child   Bridget D   (10/8/2009 1:40 p.m.)
                              • Where he lived...   Barbara   (10/8/2009 2:08 p.m.)
                                • Burke's landed gentry?   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 2:30 a.m.)
                                  • But   BarbaraB   (10/12/2009 3:51 p.m.)
                                • Forgive me for jumping in so late!   Ramya   (10/8/2009 2:49 p.m.)
                                  • It could also be possible....   Reeba   (10/8/2009 3:35 p.m.)
                                    • I assume she did not have to pay   Ramya   (10/8/2009 6:35 p.m.)
                                    • PS:   Reeba   (10/8/2009 3:50 p.m.)
                                • Marianne knew his address, however,   kathleen (elder)   (10/8/2009 2:17 p.m.)
                                  • Forwarding mail   Ivonne   (10/8/2009 6:48 p.m.)
                                  • I often find myself wondering how people know where to send mail.   Barbara   (10/8/2009 3:31 p.m.)
                                    • You've got Mail   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 2:35 a.m.)
                                      • Mrs. Ferrars   Barbara   (10/9/2009 12:36 p.m.)
                                        • Mrs Ferrars and the postman   Bridget D   (10/10/2009 4:50 a.m.)
                                          • Absolutely   Barbara   (10/11/2009 5:30 p.m.)
                                            • I have no problem...   BarbaraB   (10/12/2009 1:30 p.m.)
                                    • Perhaps Sir John....   Reeba   (10/8/2009 3:38 p.m.)
                          • I agree with you (I think)   Ivonne   (10/8/2009 9:09 a.m.)
                    • I think that...   Reeba   (10/7/2009 4:24 a.m.)
                      • I agree   Barbara   (10/7/2009 10:27 a.m.)
          • predator points of reference   Heather Leigh   (10/4/2009 9:32 p.m.)
            • Dangerous Liaisons   Bridget D   (10/6/2009 11:11 a.m.)
          • Predator   Robbin   (10/2/2009 11:59 a.m.)
          • A predator, Or "just" selfish?   Heather Leigh   (10/2/2009 10:43 a.m.)
            • Willoughby John D and Fanny   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 9:02 a.m.)
              • sins of commission/omission   Heather Leigh   (10/4/2009 9:04 p.m.)
                • Continuum   Bridget D   (10/6/2009 11:15 a.m.)
            • Intent to do Harm   Robbin   (10/2/2009 12:44 p.m.)
              • questions of intent   Heather Leigh   (10/3/2009 4:09 p.m.)
                • Selfish or Careless   Robbin   (10/4/2009 12:27 p.m.)
                • I see 'being predatory' as...   Reeba   (10/3/2009 4:48 p.m.)
                  • Willoughby & vulnerable girls   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 5:20 a.m.)
                    • Taking advantage.   Reeba   (10/4/2009 6:33 a.m.)
                      • Willoughby   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 8:23 a.m.)
                        • It ended abruptly. Who knows what his expectations were!! nfm   Reeba   (10/4/2009 8:48 a.m.)
                          • WIlloughby and Marianne   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 8:59 a.m.)
                  • Agree.   nan duval   (10/3/2009 5:00 p.m.)
                • Does the distinction matter...   Barbara   (10/3/2009 4:17 p.m.)
                  • Criminal   Barb JA   (10/4/2009 1:19 p.m.)
                    • You have hit the nail on the head.   nan duval   (10/5/2009 8:06 p.m.)
                  • deliberately or negligent   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 9:23 a.m.)
                    • I think the difference...   Reeba   (10/4/2009 9:39 a.m.)
                      • Eliz and Willoughby's guilt   Bridget D   (10/5/2009 7:17 a.m.)
                        • There's the rub   Barb JA   (10/6/2009 12:38 p.m.)
                          • ranging over town   Bridget D   (10/7/2009 7:13 a.m.)
                            • Rape or Seduction?   Robbin   (10/8/2009 5:07 p.m.)
                              • seduction   Bridget D   (10/9/2009 2:41 a.m.)
                                • different strokes for different folks   Karen G   (10/9/2009 2:07 p.m.)
                              • The crime of seduction   TimLee   (10/8/2009 6:13 p.m.)
                                • Crime of Seduction   Robbin   (10/9/2009 10:16 a.m.)
                            • Age difference   Barbara   (10/7/2009 1:02 p.m.)
                              • Eliza knowing better   Bridget D   (10/8/2009 7:08 a.m.)
                                • Marianne as a Gage   BarbaraB   (10/12/2009 12:11 p.m.)
                                • engaged couples and sexual activity   Heather Leigh   (10/8/2009 11:54 a.m.)
                                  • engagements and sex?   Bridget D   (10/8/2009 1:30 p.m.)
                                • Judgement of a 16 year old   Barb JA   (10/8/2009 10:48 a.m.)
                                  • Great post   Karen G   (10/9/2009 11:47 a.m.)
                                    • point above   Karen G   (10/9/2009 2:10 p.m.)
                                      • Urgency   Barb JA   (10/10/2009 8:20 a.m.)
                                  • Willoughby betrayed her trust   Robbin   (10/8/2009 6:29 p.m.)
                              • Blame Eliza/Don't Blame Eliza   TimLee   (10/7/2009 2:16 p.m.)
                                • I tend to believe that...   Reeba   (10/9/2009 10:30 a.m.)
                                  • Good point!   Barbara   (10/9/2009 12:39 p.m.)
                                    • Friendlessness   TimLee   (10/9/2009 1:30 p.m.)
                          • Well explained. Thanks :-) nfm   Reeba   (10/7/2009 4:16 a.m.)
                          • Excellent! nfm   Robbin   (10/7/2009 12:10 a.m.)
                          • Hear! Hear! nfm   nan duval   (10/6/2009 8:50 p.m.)
                      • Well said, Reeba, thank you. (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (10/4/2009 12:49 p.m.)
              • I agree with Robbin   Melissa K.   (10/2/2009 11:05 p.m.)
            • Sense, Sensibility & Selfishness, that's clever...   Jeffrey   (10/2/2009 11:07 a.m.)
          • I would think...   Reeba   (10/2/2009 10:11 a.m.)
            • heiress   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 5:57 a.m.)
      • Too much of a coincidence?   Barbara   (10/1/2009 3:09 p.m.)
• Lucy calling Elinor a liar   Barbara   (10/1/2009 12:46 a.m.)
  • and more help from Mrs. Jennings   LouAnn   (10/1/2009 9:32 a.m.)
• Looking for Eliza   Barbara   (10/1/2009 12:20 a.m.)
  • How long was Willoughby w/ Eliza, I wonder?   kathleen (elder)   (10/4/2009 1:06 p.m.)
    • Some guesses   Rachel G   (10/4/2009 2:59 p.m.)
      • Good points -- I wonder where they did go, then   kathleen (elder)   (10/4/2009 3:11 p.m.)
  • Educating Young Eliza.   Rachel G   (10/1/2009 3:20 p.m.)
    • I don't connect the colonel's sentiments with Eliza II's naivete   Tom P2   (10/3/2009 4:55 a.m.)
      • Not sure what you mean by "brittle" here. nfm   Rachel G   (10/3/2009 5:09 a.m.)
        • I meant her lack of fortitude when Brandon went into the army.nfm   Tom P2   (10/3/2009 7:22 p.m.)
          • Thanks. nfm   Rachel G   (10/5/2009 5:32 a.m.)
    • raising   Diane N.   (10/1/2009 6:10 p.m.)
      • Raising Eliza   Bridget D   (10/4/2009 6:01 a.m.)
        • *Spoiler? above, nfm   Barb JA   (10/4/2009 11:12 a.m.)
  • bring her to Delaford?   LouAnn   (10/1/2009 9:37 a.m.)
    • Harriet Smith   CarolTS   (10/1/2009 1:29 p.m.)
    • She was long dead by then   Barbara   (10/1/2009 10:31 a.m.)
      • Oops I meant Eliza 2   LouAnn   (10/1/2009 10:55 a.m.)
• Some observations.   Reeba   (9/29/2009 4:18 p.m.)
• Colonel Brandon: A Dashing Figure?   BarbaraB   (9/29/2009 3:29 p.m.)
  • If only Marianne could have looked past the superficial...   Divya   (9/29/2009 9:05 p.m.)
    • A man of feeling   Barbara   (9/30/2009 3:05 p.m.)
      • I agree   Robbin   (10/3/2009 12:18 a.m.)
      • A very awkward narrator   Ivonne   (9/30/2009 4:07 p.m.)
        • It is interesting to wonder why   Barbara   (9/30/2009 4:58 p.m.)
  • and in a much more gentlemanlke manner   Jenn   (9/29/2009 5:14 p.m.)
  • I agree with every point!   Jeffrey   (9/29/2009 5:04 p.m.)
  • Yes, indeed.   Reeba   (9/29/2009 4:32 p.m.)
• Willoughby lucky to be alive ?   Jeffrey   (9/29/2009 8:29 a.m.)
  • What about John?   Ivonne   (9/30/2009 4:21 p.m.)
    • Should he do anything?   Barbara   (10/1/2009 8:59 a.m.)
      • Ridiculously opaque   Ivonne   (10/1/2009 2:11 p.m.)
        • Thrashing?   Louise H   (10/1/2009 8:41 p.m.)
          • "Small House at Allingham"   Heather Leigh   (10/4/2009 9:18 p.m.)
            • Great stuff   Ivonne   (10/6/2009 6:23 p.m.)
              • I found a fascinating site   Louise H   (10/6/2009 8:51 p.m.)
                • thanks much, will bookmark it for my SHaA read! -nfm   Ivonne   (10/7/2009 11:45 p.m.)
              • Ooops. I mean Allington. ; -nfm   Ivonne   (10/6/2009 6:25 p.m.)
                • Allingham/Allington... weird   Heather Leigh   (10/6/2009 6:51 p.m.)
                  • Funny...sounds like Allenham! ; ) -nfm   Ivonne   (10/7/2009 6:38 p.m.)
          • Thanks...   Ivonne   (10/4/2009 8:52 p.m.)
        • Brotherly relationship   Barbara   (10/1/2009 2:27 p.m.)
    • But they weren't engaged   CarolTS   (9/30/2009 7:24 p.m.)
  • Duelling with pistols   Anselm   (9/29/2009 11:17 a.m.)
    • About all we can surmise is that there was a "Duel."   Jeffrey   (9/29/2009 12:14 p.m.)
      • I want to believe, like you,   Elbč   (9/29/2009 1:42 p.m.)
        • I don't think she would have known about this   Barbara   (9/29/2009 2:23 p.m.)
          • I am not so sure about this   Neus   (9/30/2009 10:32 a.m.)
            • It was illegal (nfm)   Barbara   (9/30/2009 12:26 p.m.)
            • Something just occurred to me:   Anselm   (9/30/2009 11:02 a.m.)
          • Yes, he would have been tried   Anselm   (9/30/2009 8:32 a.m.)
            • Excellent article on duelling!   Rachel G   (9/30/2009 10:30 a.m.)
            • More serious than a slap on the wrist!   Barbara   (9/30/2009 9:13 a.m.)
              • Thanks for the link to this post.   Anselm   (9/30/2009 11:55 a.m.)
                • I think Col. Brandon called Willoughby out because...   Cathy Allen   (9/30/2009 12:16 p.m.)
                  • Public-spiritedness?   Tom P2   (9/30/2009 4:33 p.m.)
              • Inefficiency of the Law   Barb JA   (9/30/2009 11:07 a.m.)
                • proof of courage   Karen G   (10/1/2009 1:19 p.m.)
                  • Lack of recourse   Barb JA   (10/4/2009 2:16 p.m.)
          • Thanks, Barbara! - nfm   Elbč   (9/29/2009 5:07 p.m.)
      • Yes, lucky to be alive   Barb JA   (9/29/2009 1:37 p.m.)
        • To paraphrase Lord Peter Wimsey   Katharine W   (9/29/2009 3:24 p.m.)
          • Another consideration for Colonel Brandon   Barbara   (9/29/2009 5:06 p.m.)
• Calling cards   Barbara   (9/28/2009 10:55 p.m.)
  • Would this have been an alternative to Marianne   kathleen (elder)   (9/29/2009 6:29 a.m.)
    • Calling cards   Bridget D   (9/29/2009 7:19 a.m.)
      • Would they even have cards?   Barbara   (9/29/2009 10:28 a.m.)
        • I wondered that, too, but could they   kathleen (elder)   (9/29/2009 11:05 a.m.)
          • leaving cards   Bridget D   (10/1/2009 7:13 a.m.)
          • Mrs. Jennings' Calls   Kathryn Ann   (9/30/2009 2:06 p.m.)
          • Cards   Bridget D   (9/29/2009 1:49 p.m.)
            • Unless he has a sister to 'befriend'   Elbč   (9/29/2009 2:15 p.m.)
              • Some sisters...   Barbara   (9/29/2009 2:24 p.m.)
                • LOL, yes - one would have to be desperate!   Elbč   (9/29/2009 5:13 p.m.)
          • Calling card etiquette   Julia Catherine   (9/29/2009 12:01 p.m.)
            • Marianne's was a note.   Reeba   (9/30/2009 10:56 a.m.)
• Should Colonel Brandon have told on Willoughby sooner?   Barbara   (9/28/2009 10:31 p.m.)
  • You sure ask the tough questions   Barb JA   (9/30/2009 7:35 a.m.)
  • If Willoughby married Marianne...   Reeba   (9/29/2009 3:25 p.m.)
  • Second attachments   Aruna   (9/28/2009 11:13 p.m.)
    • Did he know then?   CarolTS   (9/29/2009 2:45 a.m.)
      • Who Knew What   maud l   (9/29/2009 4:35 a.m.)
        • I can't imagine that Willoughby knew   Barbara   (9/29/2009 8:11 p.m.)
• Inconstancy or perverseness of circumstances?   Barbara   (9/28/2009 10:20 p.m.)
  • His feelings past and present   LouAnn   (9/29/2009 9:00 p.m.)
    • Mr. Brandon   Barbara   (9/30/2009 12:28 a.m.)
      • I forgot about that   LouAnn   (9/30/2009 1:04 p.m.)
      • You brought up more than one interesting question here, Barbara   Cathy Allen   (9/30/2009 11:57 a.m.)
        • the first Eliza's (broken) promise   Heather Leigh   (9/30/2009 12:52 p.m.)
          • She was going to be married to CB's brother for her money   Graciela   (9/30/2009 6:13 p.m.)
            • Villainy in the Brandon family   Glenn   (10/2/2009 12:07 p.m.)
              • Recourse   BarbaraB   (10/3/2009 1:55 p.m.)
                • I now have a new respect for Fanny Price (nfm)   Glenn   (10/3/2009 3:42 p.m.)
• Willoughby and Edward   Barbara   (9/28/2009 10:03 p.m.)
  • Willoughby worse   Barb JA   (9/29/2009 8:06 a.m.)
  • I'm having that same problem   kathleen (elder)   (9/29/2009 6:19 a.m.)
    • Edward and Lucy's engagement   Bridget D   (9/29/2009 7:24 a.m.)
      • But that doesn't excuse his behaviour to Elinor, imo   kathleen (elder)   (9/29/2009 9:12 a.m.)
        • I blame Jane   Karen G.   (9/29/2009 8:14 p.m.)
          • I agree. I think that..   Reeba   (9/30/2009 11:01 a.m.)
• Mrs Jennings' old friends   LouAnn   (9/28/2009 6:16 p.m.)
  • I read this line a little differently (LOL!)   Cathy Allen   (9/28/2009 8:56 p.m.)
    • I read it this way too :)   Leah Noel   (9/28/2009 9:33 p.m.)
  • Warmth   Rachel G   (9/28/2009 6:27 p.m.)
• The S&S Gazetteer   Barbara   (9/28/2009 2:47 p.m.)
  • Thank you Myretta! (:D) nfm   Robbin   (10/3/2009 5:08 p.m.)
  • An Excellent Resource   BarbaraB   (9/28/2009 10:25 p.m.)
  • It is WONDERFUL; I've already enjoyed it, and will continue! nfm   Cathy Allen   (9/28/2009 8:53 p.m.)
  • Oh - this is brilliant!   Rachel G   (9/28/2009 5:05 p.m.)
    • Definitely   Barbara   (9/28/2009 10:39 p.m.)
• "Is your sister ill?"   Barbara   (9/28/2009 2:26 p.m.)
  • Genuine Concern   Robbin   (9/29/2009 12:22 p.m.)
  • It'd be a bigger lapse of gentlemanliness to imply so!   Tom P2   (9/28/2009 7:32 p.m.)
    • I don't think he meant to imply that to Elinor   Barbara   (9/28/2009 10:22 p.m.)
  • Interesting idea! nfm   Melissa K.   (9/28/2009 7:12 p.m.)
• Mrs Jennings as King Lear   Anselm   (9/28/2009 1:58 p.m.)
  • Her younger daughter is her favourite?   Barbara   (9/28/2009 2:05 p.m.)
    • Of course it's too much of a stretch,   Anselm   (9/29/2009 3:30 a.m.)
• Secret Engagement   Robbin   (9/28/2009 11:11 a.m.)
  • So far it would seem possible   Barbara   (9/28/2009 2:40 p.m.)
    • Who is engaged to Willoughby?   Robbin   (9/29/2009 9:49 a.m.)
      • I love Mrs Jennings here!   LouAnn   (9/29/2009 9:03 p.m.)
      • It sounds like he might have done the same thing to Eliza   Barbara   (9/29/2009 7:30 p.m.)
      • I was thinking about this too,   Melissa K.   (9/29/2009 7:23 p.m.)
      • sounds very plausible!   Karen G.   (9/29/2009 6:56 p.m.)
      • Yes, Barbara's post was a reminder   Barb JA   (9/29/2009 10:13 a.m.)
    • Mrs Ellison   Rachel G   (9/28/2009 3:01 p.m.)
  • Wow.   Barb JA   (9/28/2009 12:16 p.m.)
  • Sharp eyes produce sharp analysis!   Jeffrey   (9/28/2009 12:09 p.m.)
    • Changed in what way? (:D)   Robbin   (10/3/2009 1:43 a.m.)
  • Willoughby at Allenham   LouAnn   (9/28/2009 11:47 a.m.)
• Combe Magna   MarianneR   (9/28/2009 4:13 a.m.)
  • Not sinister.   Rachel G   (9/28/2009 5:51 a.m.)
    • Thanks for enlightening.   MarianneR   (9/28/2009 9:20 a.m.)
• Ch 28: humiliating, devastating party scene   Heather Leigh   (9/28/2009 12:36 a.m.)
  • S&S 3 version   Barbara   (9/28/2009 2:42 p.m.)
  • She "almost screamed with agony"   Anselm   (9/28/2009 8:39 a.m.)
    • Marianne’s Core Quality   Robbin   (9/30/2009 2:53 p.m.)
    • Your explanation nearly ripped *my* heart in two!   Erica M.   (9/28/2009 12:12 p.m.)
      • What amazed me was...   Reeba   (9/29/2009 3:56 p.m.)
        • For "he", perhaps we should read   Anselm   (9/30/2009 4:04 a.m.)
      • What a pert observation   Anselm   (9/28/2009 1:40 p.m.)
      • Does Elinor cry for Marianne AND herself?   Jeffrey   (9/28/2009 12:49 p.m.)
        • Good observation   Erica M.   (10/3/2009 2:45 p.m.)
        • Jane & Cassandra   Barbara   (9/28/2009 2:53 p.m.)
  • Double whammy   Barb JA   (9/28/2009 8:15 a.m.)
    • Ladies being overcome   LouAnn   (9/28/2009 10:31 a.m.)
      • Thank you Nina and LouAnn! nfm   Barb JA   (9/28/2009 12:28 p.m.)
    • Hartshorn   Nina RG   (9/28/2009 8:53 a.m.)
• Breaking the Rules   BarbaraB   (9/28/2009 12:02 a.m.)
  • Rule Breakers   Robbin   (9/28/2009 12:41 p.m.)
    • Mrs Dashwood   Rachel G   (9/28/2009 1:55 p.m.)
      • Would Willoughby have been so lax with the rules ...   Cathy Allen   (9/28/2009 7:02 p.m.)
        • Three unprotected women in less than a year   Barbara   (9/29/2009 1:22 a.m.)
          • Willoughby Marianne etc   Bridget D   (10/3/2009 6:12 a.m.)
            • Taking Candy from Babies   Robbin   (10/3/2009 1:04 p.m.)
          • Of course; I hadn't thought of her. Thanks!   Cathy Allen   (9/29/2009 12:12 p.m.)
  • Walking together   CarolTS   (9/28/2009 3:20 a.m.)
    • Walking/Riding   BarbaraB   (9/28/2009 12:41 p.m.)
    • Intimate touching   Anselm   (9/28/2009 9:18 a.m.)
• Annamaria/Marianne in Reverse   BarbaraB   (9/27/2009 10:44 p.m.)
  • How clever of you; thanks for pointing it out! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/28/2009 6:09 p.m.)
  • Parenting.   Rachel G   (9/28/2009 11:53 a.m.)
  • Very similar scenes...   Anselm   (9/28/2009 9:31 a.m.)
• Is Elinor a bit of a snob?   Rachel G   (9/27/2009 5:34 p.m.)
  • I think it's more (or maybe less?) than being a snob   kathleen (elder)   (9/28/2009 6:41 a.m.)
    • Mrs Jennings and Elinor   Bridget D   (9/28/2009 7:19 a.m.)
      • But Elinor isn't in the market for a husband :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/28/2009 7:59 a.m.)
        • A realist, but   Barb JA   (9/28/2009 9:43 a.m.)
  • A qualified Yes from me...   Heather Leigh   (9/27/2009 9:09 p.m.)
    • Ten thousand pounds   LouAnn   (9/28/2009 10:40 a.m.)
  • Trying to break down Mrs. D's reasons for them going   JoAnn   (9/27/2009 9:02 p.m.)
  • The Marianne Defense   CarolTS   (9/27/2009 7:51 p.m.)
• That expectation of happiness which is happiness itself   Barbara   (9/26/2009 11:07 p.m.)
  • Elinor is realistic   kathleen (elder)   (9/28/2009 6:47 a.m.)
  • JA seems to...   Reeba   (9/27/2009 11:49 a.m.)
  • This is one of my favorite JA phrases   Louise H   (9/27/2009 11:30 a.m.)
  • The future good   Tom P2   (9/27/2009 3:11 a.m.)
    • Another possible source ...   Anselm   (9/27/2009 12:56 p.m.)
• Ch.26 Two-penny post.   Rachel G   (9/26/2009 8:33 p.m.)
  • Using the 2p post and Scott to date S&S revisions   Anselm   (9/27/2009 12:41 p.m.)
  • A note in Norton critical edition   Barbara   (9/26/2009 10:48 p.m.)
• St. Lucy   BarbaraB   (9/26/2009 12:09 p.m.)
  • What a clever thread; thank you all! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/27/2009 1:38 p.m.)
  • miss 'Steal'?   Barbara   (9/26/2009 1:10 p.m.)
    • Steal as in "take" or steal as in "resolve?"    Jeffrey   (9/27/2009 6:32 a.m.)
      • No, resolve is "steel yourself..." nfm   Anselm   (9/27/2009 1:06 p.m.)
    • but what would Lucy be stealing?   Heather Leigh   (9/26/2009 5:05 p.m.)
      • That seems suitable.   Reeba   (9/27/2009 11:10 a.m.)
    • Delightful! (:D) nfm   Robbin   (9/26/2009 3:14 p.m.)
• Chapter 25: more info re wedding dates & bedrooms :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/26/2009 7:16 a.m.)
  • Newlyweds   Barbara   (9/26/2009 1:04 p.m.)
    • I agree with you -- this comparison has been made   kathleen (elder)   (9/26/2009 1:36 p.m.)
      • Wow, never thought they were so newly married!   Karen G.   (9/26/2009 8:15 p.m.)
        • Palmers Marriage   Bridget D   (9/27/2009 5:40 a.m.)
          • Makes Mr Palmer sound like   Anselm   (9/27/2009 1:20 p.m.)
          • Another idea about Mr. Palmer   Karen G.   (9/27/2009 9:59 a.m.)
            • Perhaps being married was...   Reeba   (9/27/2009 11:29 a.m.)
            • Perhaps he does care three straws.   Barb JA   (9/27/2009 10:47 a.m.)
              • good point   Karen G.   (9/27/2009 8:40 p.m.)
              • Thank you, Barb; well said! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/27/2009 1:34 p.m.)
• How can Elinor forgive Edward so quickly?   Barbara   (9/25/2009 2:56 p.m.)
  • True.   nan duval   (9/26/2009 11:04 p.m.)
  • More on this topic in Chapter 28   kathleen (elder)   (9/26/2009 5:41 p.m.)
    • Willoughby's behavior   Barb JA   (9/29/2009 6:57 a.m.)
      • But allowing an attachment to form was unprincipled, no?   kathleen (elder)   (9/29/2009 9:08 a.m.)
        • I see what you mean   Barb JA   (9/29/2009 10:00 a.m.)
    • Edward was pre-engaged   Leah Noel   (9/28/2009 9:31 p.m.)
      • Is there proof in this week's reading   CarolTS   (9/29/2009 2:37 a.m.)
  • Engagements   Diane DeS   (9/26/2009 12:57 a.m.)
    • Worse than being a cad   Barbara   (9/26/2009 1:33 a.m.)
      • Thank you for that   Barb JA   (9/26/2009 7:35 a.m.)
      • I love this post...   Moni   (9/26/2009 6:41 a.m.)
  • I assume she thought he was "innocent"   kathleen (elder)   (9/25/2009 5:30 p.m.)
    • Yes, very easy to blame Lucy   LouAnn   (9/27/2009 2:44 p.m.)
    • That's true.   Barbara   (9/25/2009 6:43 p.m.)
  • Well, I think the thought was rather flattering to Elinor   Elbč   (9/25/2009 3:04 p.m.)
    • Yes, and she also is aware...   Moni   (9/26/2009 6:43 a.m.)
• The Steeles and the Middleton kids   JoAnn   (9/25/2009 1:55 a.m.)
• Lady Middleton's none-too-subtle hints   Barbara   (9/25/2009 1:07 a.m.)
  • Lady Middleton and good breeding   Aruna   (9/26/2009 2:17 p.m.)
    • Is this a different house, then?   kathleen (elder)   (9/26/2009 4:57 p.m.)
      • Mrs. Jennings' house   Aruna   (9/26/2009 6:30 p.m.)
        • London addresses - Portman Square, Berkeley St. etc   Rachel G   (9/26/2009 8:22 p.m.)
          • Perhaps this will help   Myretta   (9/26/2009 8:52 p.m.)
            • Very useful - thank you!   Aruna   (9/27/2009 8:58 a.m.)
            • Brilliant!   Rachel G   (9/27/2009 2:22 a.m.)
            • Whoa! This is wonderful! I will spend HOURS!   Cathy Allen   (9/26/2009 10:53 p.m.)
              • Maps of London.   Rachel G   (9/27/2009 2:53 a.m.)
                • WOW -- A jackpot! Thanks, Rachel; see you in Spring :-) (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/27/2009 1:26 p.m.)
          • Oops! Map is 1807. nfm   Rachel G   (9/26/2009 8:35 p.m.)
  • I'd prefer Lady Middleton's ways...   Reeba   (9/25/2009 3:45 p.m.)
    • Vain and dismayed   Ivonne   (9/26/2009 10:21 a.m.)
    • She's a laughing-stock first and foremost   Tom P2   (9/25/2009 5:08 p.m.)
  • Manipulating language in S&S   Erica M.   (9/25/2009 11:21 a.m.)
    • It seems funny...   Barbara   (9/25/2009 11:39 a.m.)
      • Perhaps he enjoyed himself too much to care ;-)   Erica M.   (9/25/2009 4:08 p.m.)
• Sir John's horror of solitude and quiet   Barbara   (9/25/2009 12:56 a.m.)
  • Rather strong criticism of a kindly man, I think!   Cathy Allen   (9/25/2009 1:59 p.m.)
    • I agree.   nan duval   (9/26/2009 10:54 p.m.)
    • Obnoxous?   Bridget D   (9/26/2009 8:52 a.m.)
      • What I mean by obnoxious   Cathy Allen   (9/26/2009 12:31 p.m.)
        • Obnoxious   Bridget D   (9/27/2009 5:45 a.m.)
    • It's too bad he didn't marry Charlotte   Barbara   (9/25/2009 2:38 p.m.)
      • I think Lady Middleton...   Karen G.   (9/26/2009 7:56 p.m.)
      • So happy without a cause   Robbin   (9/26/2009 2:28 p.m.)
      • That's some very clever mining!   Jeffrey   (9/25/2009 3:32 p.m.)
        • Perhaps that's why...   Reeba   (9/25/2009 3:54 p.m.)
          • *Are* they complementing each other...   Barbara   (9/25/2009 5:07 p.m.)
            • Everybody and everything annoys Mr Palmer :-)   Reeba   (9/25/2009 6:40 p.m.)
              • Not so on numerous levels.   Barbara   (9/25/2009 6:54 p.m.)
            • I agree   kathleen (elder)   (9/25/2009 5:20 p.m.)
      • VERY insightful -- I wonder now, too! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/25/2009 3:14 p.m.)
      • Of Course!   Kathryn Ann   (9/25/2009 3:00 p.m.)
  • I can see the argument for immaturity...   Trish W.   (9/25/2009 4:55 a.m.)
    • People person   Barb JA   (9/25/2009 8:22 a.m.)
      • In spite if Sir John's indiscriminate cravings for society....   Jeffrey   (9/25/2009 10:23 a.m.)
        • Quick correction to previous post....   Jeffrey   (9/25/2009 10:28 a.m.)
• do the Miss Steeles have a home?   Heather Leigh   (9/24/2009 9:03 p.m.)
  • The Stteele's home   Bridget D   (9/27/2009 6:54 a.m.)
    • They don't live with their uncle   Barbara   (9/27/2009 1:09 p.m.)
    • I was feeling compassion for them too   Heather Leigh   (9/27/2009 10:03 a.m.)
  • Heck, I even wonder...   JoAnn   (9/25/2009 1:42 a.m.)
• Was S&S ever a novel-in-letters?   Anselm   (9/24/2009 10:13 a.m.)
  • Perhaps that's why she changed it   Barb JA   (9/24/2009 10:50 a.m.)
    • I'm guessing   Barb JA   (9/24/2009 11:32 a.m.)
      • You make some really good arguments   Anselm   (9/24/2009 4:55 p.m.)
        • Perhaps the epistolary version was more like a screen adaptation?   Tom P2   (9/24/2009 5:59 p.m.)
• Backing a late horse   Anselm   (9/24/2009 6:54 a.m.)
  • Good info!   Rachel G   (9/24/2009 10:54 a.m.)
• Chapter 24: Is Lucy serious re: the Norland living?   kathleen (elder)   (9/23/2009 9:56 p.m.)
  • Regarding the Norland living...   Carol J.   (9/28/2009 12:02 a.m.)
    • Maybe that's how she got Edward in the first place :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/28/2009 6:34 a.m.)
  • I've always been under the impression that   Anselm   (9/24/2009 6:32 a.m.)
    • I think Lucy is desperate for any respectable income   Elbč   (9/24/2009 7:45 a.m.)
      • At this juncture, is Lucy a "sand-bagger?"   Jeffrey   (9/24/2009 8:28 a.m.)
        • re Elinor: agreed. Absolutely and without question.   Anselm   (9/24/2009 8:59 a.m.)
          • Tactical Skirmishes   BarbaraB   (9/25/2009 12:37 a.m.)
          • Dissembling for honorable reasons   Tom P2   (9/24/2009 8:58 p.m.)
            • Why does Elinor really go back for more?   Barbara   (9/25/2009 12:47 a.m.)
              • I was about to call you out   Anselm   (9/26/2009 9:15 a.m.)
                • Convoluted mechanism   Barbara   (9/26/2009 12:58 p.m.)
              • The comfort   Tom P2   (9/25/2009 1:30 a.m.)
          • Oh, I think Lucy...   Reeba   (9/24/2009 5:42 p.m.)
        • Lucy isn't stupid, just uneducated   kathleen (elder)   (9/24/2009 8:36 a.m.)
          • Uneducated or simply in-educable?   Jeffrey   (9/24/2009 9:49 a.m.)
            • I wondered about this too. Why uneducated?   Trish W.   (9/25/2009 3:54 a.m.)
              • Without wanting to enter   Helen B   (9/25/2009 7:16 a.m.)
                • From Jane Austen's personal perspective   Barbara   (9/25/2009 11:36 a.m.)
            • I don't believe anybody (even fictional) with basic smarts   kathleen (elder)   (9/24/2009 10:34 a.m.)
              • Do U give private tutorials? That's what I missed!   Jeffrey   (9/24/2009 11:21 a.m.)
          • I wonder too about the Norland bit   Barb JA   (9/24/2009 9:27 a.m.)
• Questions for our more perceptive readers around book II...   Jeffrey   (9/23/2009 10:11 a.m.)
  • why the Palmers?   Heather Leigh   (9/23/2009 12:25 p.m.)
    • Mrs Palmer an interesting study...   Jeffrey   (9/23/2009 2:40 p.m.)
    • :-) Good Answer nfm   BarbaraB   (9/23/2009 1:22 p.m.)
    • Reveals something about Colonel Brandon   Barbara   (9/23/2009 12:46 p.m.)
      • In Agreement   BarbaraB   (9/23/2009 1:35 p.m.)
  • Whew! I'm not the only one!   Anselm   (9/23/2009 10:56 a.m.)
  • September to late November   Barbara   (9/23/2009 10:52 a.m.)
• Marianne and Lucy - descriptions and their placement   Anselm   (9/23/2009 9:45 a.m.)
  • This works for Mrs. Palmer as well...   Trish W.   (9/24/2009 8:51 p.m.)
• More clues about John Dashwood and the cottage   LouAnn   (9/21/2009 12:56 p.m.)
  • Well picked! ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (9/27/2009 9:02 a.m.)
• The theft of the lock?   Ivonne   (9/21/2009 11:11 a.m.)
  • Elinor and the Lock   Bridget D   (9/23/2009 7:26 a.m.)
    • Another side of Elinor?   Barbara   (9/23/2009 10:57 a.m.)
      • 19 and in love   CarolTS   (9/23/2009 12:39 p.m.)
  • Ah, another Pope reference!   Erica M.   (9/22/2009 12:26 p.m.)
    • The Rape of the Lock   Barb JA   (9/23/2009 8:32 a.m.)
• "He is in the Opposition, you know"   Rachel G   (9/21/2009 10:07 a.m.)
  • What Jane Austen thought of politicians   Barbara   (9/25/2009 11:48 a.m.)
    • Now I'm beginning to feel sorry for Mr Palmer!   Rachel G   (9/25/2009 1:53 p.m.)
  • Politics, campaigning   Barbara   (9/24/2009 12:51 a.m.)
    • Whatever the reason might have been..   Reeba   (9/24/2009 5:50 p.m.)
  • I wondered what that line meant; thank you Rachel G.   Cathy Allen   (9/21/2009 7:22 p.m.)
• Marianne a bit of a "drama" queen??   Jeffrey   (9/21/2009 9:12 a.m.)
  • I'm a pretty patient person, so...   Cathy Allen   (9/21/2009 7:19 p.m.)
    • Yep, an unashamed drama queen.   Tracey   (9/21/2009 11:04 p.m.)
• Self-Portrait?   Robbin   (9/20/2009 10:43 p.m.)
  • Both Sides of the Picture...   Moni   (9/22/2009 8:31 a.m.)
    • An Eternity of Weeks   Robbin   (9/30/2009 2:42 p.m.)
      • Good reading,,,   Moni   (10/5/2009 7:12 a.m.)
        • Edward & Marianne   Robbin   (10/5/2009 4:20 p.m.)
          • Yes, good points ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (10/6/2009 8:59 p.m.)
    • Parallels   Barb JA   (9/26/2009 9:02 a.m.)
      • Misguided, Stupid & Manipulative   Robbin   (9/30/2009 2:26 p.m.)
      • Growing up...   Moni   (9/27/2009 9:08 a.m.)
    • The grief factor   LouAnn   (9/22/2009 12:34 p.m.)
      • Good points...   Moni   (9/23/2009 8:37 a.m.)
  • Childishness   BarbaraB   (9/21/2009 7:26 p.m.)
    • More than one way to corrupt a child   Robbin   (9/30/2009 2:28 p.m.)
      • In Agreement nfm   BarbaraB   (10/4/2009 12:37 p.m.)
    • interesting   Karen G.   (9/22/2009 8:46 p.m.)
  • Not so self aware   Barb JA   (9/21/2009 9:24 a.m.)
    • More of Marianne's inconsistencies.   Anselm   (9/21/2009 11:27 a.m.)
      • Ardour of mind   Robbin   (9/25/2009 11:49 a.m.)
        • I still think   CarolTS   (9/25/2009 6:05 p.m.)
          • Not sold on Willoughby   Robbin   (9/26/2009 4:36 p.m.)
            • Great reading, Robbin ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (9/27/2009 9:11 a.m.)
            • 1st dates   CarolTS   (9/26/2009 7:47 p.m.)
              • Politic Politeness or Guile   Robbin   (9/28/2009 10:55 a.m.)
                • Purposefully murky   Barb JA   (9/28/2009 12:11 p.m.)
                  • Suspiciously agreeable, He is   Robbin   (10/2/2009 11:34 a.m.)
                    • You don't have to convince me   Barb JA   (10/3/2009 7:33 a.m.)
                      • First read.   Rachel G   (10/3/2009 12:21 p.m.)
                        • Nice Analysis of the Subject nfm   BarbaraB   (10/4/2009 12:33 p.m.)
                    • I think there is some genuine shared interest there   Barbara   (10/2/2009 12:38 p.m.)
                      • Pretending Sensibility?   Robbin   (10/2/2009 2:57 p.m.)
                        • Sensiblity = virtue ?   CarolTS   (10/2/2009 6:02 p.m.)
                          • Poverty of the Soul   Robbin   (10/2/2009 11:57 p.m.)
                          • To Marianne, they are   Barbara   (10/2/2009 7:01 p.m.)
                            • Maybe that's one thing she's learning   CarolTS   (10/2/2009 7:15 p.m.)
                  • Inconsistencies.... Marianne's and JA's?   Anselm   (9/29/2009 7:29 a.m.)
                    • Tolerably fixed opinions   Barbara   (9/29/2009 2:57 p.m.)
                    • Agreeing with herself- LOL   Barb JA   (9/29/2009 8:22 a.m.)
          • Repertoire of romantic literature?   Barbara   (9/25/2009 7:02 p.m.)
            • We know that men read them too   CarolTS   (9/26/2009 1:38 a.m.)
• Edward is younger then Willoughby!   Elbč   (9/20/2009 4:54 p.m.)
  • I've also been struck by Edward's personality this time   JoAnn   (9/20/2009 11:13 p.m.)
    • Edward not the dud we think him to be...   Jeffrey   (9/22/2009 11:56 a.m.)
      • Melancholy personality?   Barb JA   (9/23/2009 7:23 a.m.)
        • Good points on melancholy Edward...(plot spoiler?)   Jeffrey   (9/23/2009 8:27 a.m.)
      • my favorite Edward moment   Heather Leigh   (9/22/2009 2:42 p.m.)
      • Revealing my ignorance (or lack of wit)   Cathy Allen   (9/22/2009 1:21 p.m.)
        • Neither ignorance nor lack of wit at all; We're all guessing...   Jeffrey   (9/22/2009 2:30 p.m.)
          • Another very plausible and clever thought!   Cathy Allen   (9/22/2009 6:59 p.m.)
        • Chapter 17   Nina RG   (9/22/2009 1:52 p.m.)
          • Plausible and very clever; thanks, Nina! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/22/2009 6:39 p.m.)
    • I agree   Aruna   (9/21/2009 7:42 a.m.)
      • Edward the good-for-nothing layabout   Anselm   (9/21/2009 11:57 a.m.)
• Willoughby staying with the Dashwoods   Bridget D   (9/20/2009 8:56 a.m.)
  • Edward stayed too   Aruna   (9/21/2009 9:02 p.m.)
  • She thinks Willoughby & Marianne are engaged   kathleen (elder)   (9/20/2009 9:08 a.m.)
    • Inviting willoughby   Bridget D   (9/21/2009 7:29 a.m.)
      • I don't think that Mrs Dashwood is considered   kathleen (elder)   (9/21/2009 8:15 a.m.)
• Colonel Brandon hardly ever falls in love with anybody   Barbara   (9/19/2009 10:14 p.m.)
  • That particular phrase ("hardly ever   kathleen (elder)   (9/20/2009 7:36 a.m.)
    • Her own definition   Robbin   (9/20/2009 11:51 a.m.)
      • indeed, her own definitions...   Karen G.   (9/20/2009 9:02 p.m.)
      • "falls in love"   Heather Leigh   (9/20/2009 3:03 p.m.)
  • Quite thick of Charlotte to say such thing! (nfm)   Lex   (9/20/2009 3:24 a.m.)
• Are the Steeles really the Jennings' cousins?   Barbara   (9/19/2009 10:08 p.m.)
  • I wondered about that as well   kathleen (elder)   (9/20/2009 7:32 a.m.)
    • I had never   Nina RG   (9/20/2009 10:51 a.m.)
    • Oh! I never thought of that!   Barbara   (9/20/2009 10:24 a.m.)
      • Edward's & Lucy's correspondence   kathleen (elder)   (9/20/2009 10:34 a.m.)
        • "I am going into the village to see my horses,"   nan duval   (9/20/2009 6:12 p.m.)
          • Good catch.   Reeba   (9/22/2009 4:38 a.m.)
        • How would she even know where to send them?   Barbara   (9/20/2009 10:42 a.m.)
          • I hadn't thought of Oxford   kathleen (elder)   (9/20/2009 10:54 a.m.)
• Disturbing Similarities   Robbin   (9/19/2009 9:36 p.m.)
  • Indeed   Angela C   (9/20/2009 1:00 p.m.)
• Miss Anne Steele :-)   Heather Leigh   (9/19/2009 7:55 p.m.)
  • Agree, and I think the same about Charlotte Palmer   LouAnn   (9/21/2009 1:00 p.m.)
  • I completely agree with you about Miss Steele LOL! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/21/2009 12:00 p.m.)
• Paper filigree basket   Barbara   (9/19/2009 7:53 p.m.)
  • Maria Edgeworth reference   LouAnn   (9/20/2009 1:11 p.m.)
    • Interesting!   Barbara   (9/20/2009 1:24 p.m.)
      • Sensibility in girls   LouAnn   (9/21/2009 12:51 p.m.)
        • Annamaria   Barbara   (9/21/2009 12:56 p.m.)
          • Yes, see Robbin's "self-portrait" post   LouAnn   (9/21/2009 1:05 p.m.)
            • Even their names look like transposes of each other! :-) nfm   Tom P2   (9/22/2009 6:17 p.m.)
  • LOL! Particularly *this* three-year old   BarbaraB   (9/19/2009 9:32 p.m.)
  • Lady Middleton's manipulative nature?   kathleen (elder)   (9/19/2009 8:15 p.m.)
    • Lucy's skill with children   CarolTS   (9/20/2009 12:44 a.m.)
      • Lucy   Bridget D   (9/20/2009 8:37 a.m.)
• The Steele sisters vs. the Dashwood sisters   kathleen (elder)   (9/19/2009 7:51 p.m.)
  • Lucy does seem like the elder sister   Barbara   (9/19/2009 9:58 p.m.)
  • And Elinor often has to make up for Marianne's...   Trish W.   (9/19/2009 8:40 p.m.)
• Columella   Barbara   (9/19/2009 6:30 p.m.)
  • The thing I can think of here is...   Moni   (9/23/2009 9:09 a.m.)
  • I feel that...   Reeba   (9/20/2009 3:35 p.m.)
    • PS: Mrs Dashwood..   Reeba   (9/20/2009 3:52 p.m.)
  • An interesting theory, but I had a different reaction   Cathy Allen   (9/20/2009 2:42 p.m.)
    • That was my reaction too   Nina RG   (9/21/2009 9:24 a.m.)
  • hmmm...I'm thinking he wants to bring them up to not be...   Trish W.   (9/19/2009 8:46 p.m.)
• Lucy--lying   Barbara   (9/19/2009 6:08 p.m.)
  • What an eye-opener   MarianneR   (9/24/2009 3:27 a.m.)
  • Sometimes Lucy lies, sometimes not.   nan duval   (9/20/2009 6:25 p.m.)
  • Obviously.   Lex   (9/20/2009 3:18 a.m.)
    • Her purpose in coming to Barton was to warn Elinor   Barbara   (9/20/2009 10:38 a.m.)
      • But wasn't there a risk in that?   Anselm   (9/22/2009 10:14 a.m.)
        • Not necessarily   Barbara   (9/22/2009 10:54 a.m.)
          • She's not related to George Wickham, is she?   Anselm   (9/23/2009 5:21 a.m.)
      • An Interesting Observation   maud l   (9/21/2009 3:25 a.m.)
        • Never Mind!   maud l   (9/21/2009 3:32 a.m.)
      • I have never thought of..   Lex   (9/21/2009 2:06 a.m.)
      • & maybe to get her picture drawn.   nan duval   (9/20/2009 6:31 p.m.)
      • Lucy's other purpose; Edward's intelligence   Tom P2   (9/20/2009 5:46 p.m.)
        • Thanks for the interesting ideas, many of which I didn't consider   Cathy Allen   (9/22/2009 6:31 p.m.)
        • Edward's hint   Erica M.   (9/21/2009 4:46 p.m.)
      • Calculating & Cold-hearted   Robbin   (9/20/2009 2:07 p.m.)
        • Chapter 24 - what a duel!   Elbč   (9/21/2009 4:11 p.m.)
          • Great Post!   Robbin   (9/30/2009 2:48 p.m.)
          • LOL, Love It! nfm   BarbaraB   (9/21/2009 7:50 p.m.)
          • Indeed, indeed!   Tom P2   (9/21/2009 7:40 p.m.)
            • Prelude to a Catfight!   Barb JA   (9/22/2009 10:07 a.m.)
        • all this and ungrammatical, too   Heather Leigh   (9/20/2009 4:37 p.m.)
          • I particularly enjoy the Misses Steeles' grammar errors-LOL!(nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/21/2009 6:25 p.m.)
            • Education :-)   Barb JA   (9/22/2009 11:00 a.m.)
              • A good point,   Anselm   (9/23/2009 8:23 a.m.)
                • LOL   MarianneR   (9/24/2009 3:10 a.m.)
                • Errrmmm... the link is   Anselm   (9/23/2009 8:28 a.m.)
• A blunder too common   Barbara   (9/19/2009 5:45 p.m.)
• Marriages - Palmers and Middletons   Aruna   (9/19/2009 3:29 p.m.)
  • John Dashwood married very young....   Reeba   (9/19/2009 5:03 p.m.)
    • But John is 'very fond' of her   Barbara   (9/19/2009 5:51 p.m.)
      • He's certainly wrapped around her finger, that's for sure! (nfm)   Trish W.   (9/19/2009 8:54 p.m.)
      • Indeed, and I sometimes think...   Rachel G   (9/19/2009 6:12 p.m.)
        • Ouch, if John & Fanny are an example of happy marriage,   Heather Leigh   (9/19/2009 6:21 p.m.)
          • Nice is no requirement for a happy marriage   Robbin   (9/19/2009 10:56 p.m.)
            • Exactly! nfm   Rachel G   (9/20/2009 2:47 a.m.)
• The Palmer marriage   Heather Leigh   (9/19/2009 2:55 p.m.)
  • What a couple!   Carol J.   (9/27/2009 5:06 p.m.)
  • Pondering the Palmers.   Rachel G   (9/21/2009 6:00 a.m.)
    • I sense something in Charlotte...   Reeba   (9/23/2009 9:14 a.m.)
      • I agree.   nan duval   (9/23/2009 7:09 p.m.)
        • Yes, Remember the Fortune NFM   maud l   (9/24/2009 12:20 a.m.)
      • Interesting Idea   BarbaraB   (9/23/2009 12:42 p.m.)
      • Compensating for his bad manners.   Rachel G   (9/23/2009 10:05 a.m.)
    • Palmer's Relationship   BarbaraB   (9/21/2009 3:54 p.m.)
      • Making their marriage work   Barbara   (9/21/2009 5:25 p.m.)
        • Oooops...Very True...   BarbaraB   (9/21/2009 6:11 p.m.)
  • A strange tandem indeed.   Lex   (9/20/2009 3:08 a.m.)
    • Ignoring the Dashwoods   Barbara   (9/20/2009 10:45 a.m.)
      • It could be, yes. (nfm)   Lex   (9/21/2009 2:09 a.m.)
      • Elinor's Observation of Mr. Palmer   BarbaraB   (9/20/2009 12:22 p.m.)
• I like Edward!   Barb JA   (9/19/2009 10:29 a.m.)
  • Mrs. Dashwood and Edward   Carol J.   (9/27/2009 4:50 p.m.)
  • Spirited Edward   Robbin   (9/20/2009 3:35 p.m.)
    • Edward baiting Marianne?   Carol J.   (9/27/2009 4:40 p.m.)
      • It was kindly meant   Robbin   (9/28/2009 12:12 p.m.)
    • Agree   maud l   (9/21/2009 3:07 a.m.)
  • getting a little tired of Edward   Heather Leigh   (9/19/2009 3:28 p.m.)
    • Self inferiority.   Lex   (9/20/2009 2:59 a.m.)
    • He's similar in this way to Darcy then except...   Trish W.   (9/19/2009 8:21 p.m.)
    • I agree about..   Reeba   (9/19/2009 4:40 p.m.)
      • "fond of low company"   Heather Leigh   (9/19/2009 7:46 p.m.)
        • A Loser   Robbin   (9/20/2009 10:15 p.m.)
        • "low company"   Reeba   (9/20/2009 2:28 p.m.)
  • But what's wrong with him? :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/19/2009 2:25 p.m.)
    • Ch. 17 - 19. I smell a rat!   Rachel G   (9/19/2009 8:13 p.m.)
      • the ring   Bridget D   (9/20/2009 8:47 a.m.)
        • Obtaining Hair   Robbin   (9/20/2009 12:20 p.m.)
          • Elinor's hair   Bridget D   (9/21/2009 7:25 a.m.)
            • My problem with Edward promising wear the ring   kathleen (elder)   (9/21/2009 8:12 a.m.)
          • Elinor's confidence   Karen G.   (9/20/2009 9:35 p.m.)
          • Good Point nfm   BarbaraB   (9/20/2009 12:23 p.m.)
        • Maybe Edward is trying to keep himself "safe"   kathleen (elder)   (9/20/2009 9:11 a.m.)
          • Maybe he's trying   nan duval   (9/20/2009 6:33 p.m.)
            • All very plausible   Barb JA   (9/21/2009 12:23 p.m.)
          • When Lucy gave it to him   Barbara   (9/20/2009 10:57 a.m.)
    • I Found This Passage Interesting Too   maud l   (9/19/2009 5:26 p.m.)
      • I Agree   BarbaraB   (9/19/2009 6:15 p.m.)
        • Is this the Elinor we know?   Melissa K.   (9/19/2009 6:59 p.m.)
• The Palmers: more sisters unlike each other   kathleen (elder)   (9/19/2009 9:40 a.m.)
  • Charlotte more like her mother   LouAnn   (9/19/2009 12:15 p.m.)
    • Mothers and daughters   Katharine W   (9/19/2009 3:31 p.m.)
    • And we see the same in the Dashwoods...   Trish W.   (9/19/2009 12:45 p.m.)
      • I think the same with the psychological theory. (nfm)   Lex   (9/20/2009 2:46 a.m.)
• #2: The word as camera.   Anselm   (9/19/2009 8:29 a.m.)
• #1: Speaking volumes   Anselm   (9/19/2009 8:28 a.m.)
  • The volume-structure   Nina RG   (9/19/2009 9:36 a.m.)
• The use of first names   CarolTS   (9/19/2009 4:04 a.m.)
  • Perhaps at Marianne's instigation?   Erica M.   (9/21/2009 2:07 p.m.)
  • Family I suppose   Barb JA   (9/19/2009 9:56 a.m.)
  • Probably the family connection   Barbara   (9/19/2009 9:43 a.m.)
    • Oops   Barb JA   (9/19/2009 10:07 a.m.)
      • They've always been related   Barbara   (9/19/2009 11:31 a.m.)
        • Yes, you are right   Barb JA   (9/19/2009 12:40 p.m.)
          • Or mis-thought rather :-) nfm   Barb JA   (9/19/2009 12:51 p.m.)
• Jane Austen and Willoughby   Barbara   (9/18/2009 6:21 p.m.)
  • ooh...fascinating!   Trish W.   (9/18/2009 6:41 p.m.)
  • It seems   Barb JA   (9/18/2009 6:36 p.m.)
• Of descriptions and placements   Anselm   (9/18/2009 5:46 p.m.)
• The use of seasons to set the tone   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 2:51 p.m.)
  • Dead leaves & dirty bottoms.   nan duval   (9/17/2009 9:16 p.m.)
    • Great observation! *nfm*   MarianneR   (9/18/2009 4:20 a.m.)
    • Picturesque beauty   Barbara   (9/17/2009 10:05 p.m.)
      • The painting...?   BarbaraB   (9/18/2009 1:02 p.m.)
        • How can you see their attire?   Graciela   (9/18/2009 4:32 p.m.)
          • Attire   BarbaraB   (9/18/2009 5:34 p.m.)
        • 1794   Barbara   (9/18/2009 3:23 p.m.)
          • Those hats look so 50s but...   BarbaraB   (9/18/2009 4:45 p.m.)
            • Clever of Turner!   CarolTS   (9/19/2009 4:06 a.m.)
            • Looks more like breeches,   kathleen (elder)   (9/18/2009 5:52 p.m.)
      • I agree   nan duval   (9/17/2009 10:34 p.m.)
        • I can see both of these cases   JoAnn   (9/18/2009 1:56 a.m.)
  • Timeline   Rachel G   (9/17/2009 3:13 p.m.)
    • Thank you!!   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 5:12 p.m.)
• General observations on this book   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 2:46 p.m.)
  • It IS a wonderful discussion, isn't it, JoAnn?   Cathy Allen   (9/17/2009 6:54 p.m.)
    • What I've noticed this read...   Trish W.   (9/17/2009 7:13 p.m.)
      • That Mrs. D...   JoAnn   (9/18/2009 2:00 a.m.)
        • Lady Middleton...   MarianneR   (9/18/2009 3:49 a.m.)
          • Lady Middleton's purpose   JoAnn   (9/18/2009 2:44 p.m.)
            • a foil to Dashwood ladies, and a negative image of woman   Heather Leigh   (9/18/2009 3:07 p.m.)
              • On the image of mothers and their differences...   Trish W.   (9/18/2009 6:02 p.m.)
                • status of women?   Aruna   (9/18/2009 10:04 p.m.)
                  • I think this is the point JA is making...   Trish W.   (9/19/2009 12:36 p.m.)
                • And what a great lesson it is! nfm   JoAnn   (9/18/2009 6:25 p.m.)
• Throwing the "baloney" flag on Willoughby   Melissa K   (9/17/2009 2:20 p.m.)
  • And now for something completely different...   Cathy Allen   (9/17/2009 6:47 p.m.)
  • And more...   Barbara   (9/17/2009 3:29 p.m.)
    • Willoughby does say   kathleen (elder)   (9/17/2009 8:00 p.m.)
      • It doesn't add up   Barbara   (9/17/2009 8:11 p.m.)
        • Another creepy idea   Melissa K.   (9/17/2009 9:18 p.m.)
          • Possibly even more creepy...   Moni   (9/18/2009 8:07 a.m.)
          • Wow...   MarianneR   (9/18/2009 4:08 a.m.)
  • Great observation   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 2:37 p.m.)
• Mrs. Jennings' wonderings   LouAnn   (9/16/2009 3:12 p.m.)
  • Spinning a tale   Barbara   (9/16/2009 3:26 p.m.)
    • Mrs, Jennings, Miss Bates, Margaret   Aruna   (9/16/2009 11:26 p.m.)
      • I had the same thought about Miss Bates   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 12:55 a.m.)
      • VERY good, Aruna -- more important "little" things...   Cathy Allen   (9/16/2009 11:42 p.m.)
    • Wow -- another zinger, Barbara!   Cathy Allen   (9/16/2009 8:52 p.m.)
      • Thanks - I'll play close attention to Mrs. Jennings!   Jeffrey   (9/17/2009 10:59 a.m.)
• Men of mystery   Ivonne   (9/16/2009 10:04 a.m.)
  • Alarming the Ladies   Robbin   (9/20/2009 11:49 p.m.)
  • Appearances and Engagements...   Moni   (9/17/2009 10:00 a.m.)
    • Relative speed   Barbara   (9/17/2009 10:46 a.m.)
      • Weeks & Months   Robbin   (9/17/2009 9:29 p.m.)
        • I realize that   Barbara   (9/17/2009 10:09 p.m.)
          • Uh oh, did I miss something?   Ivonne   (9/18/2009 10:39 a.m.)
            • The point is...   Barbara   (9/18/2009 11:15 a.m.)
  • Doesn't it all emphasise...   Rae   (9/17/2009 7:22 a.m.)
    • Making things happen   Barbara   (9/17/2009 10:44 a.m.)
      • I thought it was   CarolTS   (9/17/2009 1:13 p.m.)
        • It was Margaret   fannie   (9/17/2009 10:07 p.m.)
    • Hm,   MarianneR   (9/17/2009 10:24 a.m.)
      • Fanny   nan duval   (9/17/2009 1:36 p.m.)
  • What I find interesting   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 12:59 a.m.)
    • Suspicious Departures   Robbin   (9/17/2009 9:03 p.m.)
  • Colonel Brandon is unlike himself too   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:18 p.m.)
    • LOL!!! I wasn't thinking about manners!   Carol J.   (9/20/2009 9:07 p.m.)
  • I know...   Reeba   (9/16/2009 12:18 p.m.)
  • Interesting thoughts...   MarianneR   (9/16/2009 10:22 a.m.)
• Edward arrives at Barton Cottage -- is something wrong?   kathleen (elder)   (9/16/2009 6:31 a.m.)
  • Ch17: Elinor goes fishing?   Tom P2   (9/20/2009 11:06 p.m.)
  • Visting anytime...   Moni   (9/17/2009 10:11 a.m.)
    • Edward strange, Willoughby not so much   LouAnn   (9/17/2009 1:22 p.m.)
  • His shyness, perhaps?   LouAnn   (9/16/2009 2:58 p.m.)
  • Two gone, one back.   Reeba   (9/16/2009 9:50 a.m.)
    • Two gone?   Carol J.   (9/20/2009 6:50 p.m.)
      • Oh, OK, I forgot one!   Carol J.   (9/20/2009 9:05 p.m.)
        • Forgetting   Rachel G   (9/21/2009 2:31 a.m.)
    • Elinor's reaction vs. behavior   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 1:03 a.m.)
• Two revelations about Colonel Brandon by Sir John   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:47 a.m.)
  • I'm not sure Sir John is being terribly perceptive   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 1:42 a.m.)
    • Marianne and Sir John   CarolTS   (9/17/2009 2:51 a.m.)
      • Feelings vs. statistics   Barbara   (9/17/2009 10:34 a.m.)
        • A reasonable point, but   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 2:31 p.m.)
          • "Kind" of "Sort" of   Barbara   (9/17/2009 3:22 p.m.)
            • Great observation!   Aruna   (9/18/2009 3:17 p.m.)
            • Terrific observation. Thanks. (nfm)   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 5:14 p.m.)
            • Great observation!   MarianneR   (9/17/2009 3:31 p.m.)
              • Agree, this was good reading! ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (9/18/2009 9:11 a.m.)
  • I think the comment about..   Reeba   (9/16/2009 10:17 a.m.)
  • They have known each other for some time   CarolTS   (9/16/2009 2:54 a.m.)
    • Seven years...   Barbara   (9/16/2009 9:19 a.m.)
      • Possibly more than ten years   kathleen (elder)   (9/16/2009 9:30 p.m.)
        • Or he knew Colonel Brandon's brother-in-law   Barbara   (9/16/2009 9:38 p.m.)
      • Since childhood maybe?   fannie   (9/16/2009 8:57 p.m.)
        • Their estates?   CarolTS   (9/17/2009 2:46 a.m.)
          • Twelve   Barbara   (9/17/2009 10:32 a.m.)
            • So the 4 miles mentioned above   CarolTS   (9/17/2009 1:28 p.m.)
              • I found where he lives but I can't tell yet (nfm)   Graciela   (9/18/2009 6:00 p.m.)
                • Chapter 14   CarolTS   (9/19/2009 5:30 p.m.)
              • It must have not been so close   Graciela   (9/17/2009 2:34 p.m.)
                • I'm sorry   fannie   (9/17/2009 10:24 p.m.)
        • That is possible   Barbara   (9/16/2009 9:30 p.m.)
• Colonel Brandon's extended family   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:39 a.m.)
  • Interesting. Thanks Barbara. nfm   Elizabeth K   (9/17/2009 5:30 a.m.)
  • Another interesting GR tidbit -- thanks, Barbara! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/16/2009 7:55 p.m.)
• Opinions too common and too dangerous   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:33 a.m.)
  • Something I have often wondered about.   Reeba   (9/16/2009 9:21 a.m.)
    • common and dangerous opinions about love   Heather Leigh   (9/16/2009 4:04 p.m.)
      • PS I messed up that pesky chronology, but   Heather Leigh   (9/16/2009 4:14 p.m.)
        • But it would mean heartbreak   Barbara   (9/16/2009 5:03 p.m.)
          • I agree, he doesn't wish heartbreak on her...   Heather Leigh   (9/16/2009 7:17 p.m.)
    • Marianne's views will have to change ...   Louise H   (9/16/2009 10:56 a.m.)
      • Do you think he has any hope?   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:04 p.m.)
    • Very good   Barb JA   (9/16/2009 10:54 a.m.)
    • How sweet...   MarianneR   (9/16/2009 10:52 a.m.)
      • Disappointment and inconstancy   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:10 p.m.)
        • interesting   Aruna   (9/16/2009 11:34 p.m.)
• Chapter 11: Whose conversation is Elinor missing?   kathleen (elder)   (9/15/2009 8:45 p.m.)
  • I find it interesting   CarolTS   (9/16/2009 2:48 p.m.)
    • Good point.   Reeba   (9/16/2009 3:19 p.m.)
  • I think it is a mixture of Edward and her father   Martina C   (9/16/2009 10:09 a.m.)
    • I agree that it...   Reeba   (9/16/2009 3:24 p.m.)
      • I don't disagree, but it makes me sad(der) for Elinor   kathleen (elder)   (9/16/2009 3:42 p.m.)
        • I think that all Elinor's intelligence...   Reeba   (9/17/2009 12:33 p.m.)
          • Then why can't she do that now?   kathleen (elder)   (9/17/2009 2:24 p.m.)
            • I was continuing with....   Reeba   (9/17/2009 3:38 p.m.)
              • Which would mean   CarolTS   (9/17/2009 7:13 p.m.)
                • Some more inresting thoughts.   Reeba   (9/19/2009 8:52 a.m.)
                  • I had never thought of that!   CarolTS   (9/19/2009 5:28 p.m.)
                    • Maybe Elinor thinks her mother should ask   Barbara   (9/19/2009 6:12 p.m.)
              • I see -- how interesting. nfm   kathleen (elder)   (9/17/2009 5:10 p.m.)
        • What Elinor Did   maud l   (9/17/2009 2:58 a.m.)
          • You're probably right that Elinor was busy   kathleen (elder)   (9/17/2009 5:25 a.m.)
            • No I Agree   maud l   (9/17/2009 6:11 a.m.)
              • Also reminds me of Anne in Persuasion   Karen G   (9/17/2009 12:18 p.m.)
        • Indeed.   Reeba   (9/16/2009 4:12 p.m.)
          • The S+S2 tea on the stairs scene   Tom P2   (9/26/2009 10:15 p.m.)
          • I wonder if Elinor has been "alone" this way   kathleen (elder)   (9/16/2009 9:22 p.m.)
• Sense (Edward) vs Sensibility (Marianne) in Ch 16   Heather Leigh   (9/15/2009 7:29 p.m.)
  • If, however, you aren't looking for such a contrast (loooong!)   Anselm   (9/17/2009 10:27 a.m.)
    • Austen's relationship to Romanticism   Heather Leigh   (9/18/2009 1:13 p.m.)
    • Perhaps theres some overlap   Barb JA   (9/18/2009 10:01 a.m.)
  • Ironic pause.   Rachel G   (9/16/2009 10:10 a.m.)
    • A great thing about reading JA, instead of watching adaptations!   Cathy Allen   (9/16/2009 3:18 p.m.)
  • I too am a great   Reeba   (9/16/2009 9:25 a.m.)
• "When you have eliminated the impossible,   Anselm   (9/15/2009 11:39 a.m.)
  • To keep up the suspense perhaps.   Reeba   (9/15/2009 5:20 p.m.)
    • I think yours is the best solution.   Anselm   (9/16/2009 4:55 a.m.)
  • I think JA was not contemptuous of servants, so much as...   Cathy Allen   (9/15/2009 1:05 p.m.)
  • LOL!   Robbin   (9/15/2009 12:08 p.m.)
• Might there be a Mad Lib at some point? Just wondering :-) NFM   janelt   (9/14/2009 6:56 p.m.)
  • Is it allowed to ask what is a Mad Lib? nfm   Outi   (9/15/2009 2:00 p.m.)
    • Example from Persuasion group read   Elbč   (9/15/2009 2:23 p.m.)
    • A game   Barbara   (9/15/2009 2:15 p.m.)
      • Thank you Barbara and Elbé!   Outi   (9/15/2009 2:53 p.m.)
        • Sorry, Elbe, I put the apostrophe wrong way   Outi   (9/15/2009 3:28 p.m.)
  • Not planned at the moment   Barbara   (9/14/2009 7:42 p.m.)
    • Sorry. Didn't mean to add more to your plate :-)   janelt   (9/15/2009 9:41 p.m.)
      • Not the only one   Barbara   (9/16/2009 12:57 a.m.)
• What's in a name?   Rachel G   (9/14/2009 6:50 p.m.)
  • Shows Marianne's devotion   Julia Catherine   (9/15/2009 11:11 a.m.)
    • It might be to tell us...   Reeba   (9/15/2009 5:27 p.m.)
      • I think you're closer, although   Diane DeS   (9/15/2009 6:47 p.m.)
        • Allenham...   MarianneR   (9/16/2009 3:13 a.m.)
  • Perhaps   MarianneR   (9/15/2009 2:43 a.m.)
  • could it be...   Leah Noel   (9/14/2009 8:00 p.m.)
    • What has Mrs. Smith's last name to do   Graciela   (9/14/2009 11:07 p.m.)
      • The distinction would be Jane Austen's   Leah Noel   (9/15/2009 6:29 a.m.)
• I wonder how long Barton Cottage was empty?   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 5:01 p.m.)
  • Maybe no prior occupants?   Barbara   (9/14/2009 5:24 p.m.)
    • It came fully furnished,   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 5:34 p.m.)
• Willoughby, Marianne, narcissism   Heather Leigh   (9/14/2009 3:11 p.m.)
  • Highfalutin Marianne   Barb JA   (9/16/2009 10:06 a.m.)
    • A further clarification   Barb JA   (9/16/2009 10:13 a.m.)
  • This is very interesting, Heather   Cathy Allen   (9/15/2009 5:17 p.m.)
• Where did things start to go wrong?   Karen G   (9/14/2009 2:13 p.m.)
  • Something wrong from his first visit   Robbin   (9/15/2009 12:22 p.m.)
    • Another Clue   BarbaraB   (9/15/2009 3:55 p.m.)
      • Jennings Daily News- LOL! nfm   Barb JA   (9/16/2009 10:19 a.m.)
    • Poverty and horses   Barbara   (9/15/2009 1:42 p.m.)
      • Horses   Aruna   (9/15/2009 9:58 p.m.)
        • But would she still admire him...?   Barbara   (9/16/2009 1:00 a.m.)
  • Chapter 11, paragraph 5 ....   Rachel G   (9/14/2009 3:28 p.m.)
    • Yet,   Karen G   (9/14/2009 4:22 p.m.)
      • Should we be worried given Willoughby's age?   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 4:34 p.m.)
        • Twenty-five   Karen G.   (9/15/2009 11:57 p.m.)
          • being 25...   Leah Noel   (9/16/2009 1:13 p.m.)
            • Excellent point! nfm   Melissa K.   (9/16/2009 4:33 p.m.)
        • Allenham   Rachel G   (9/14/2009 4:59 p.m.)
          • 20/20 hindsight   Karen G.   (9/15/2009 11:55 p.m.)
            • I agree about hindsight   Barb JA   (9/16/2009 8:21 a.m.)
            • On first read, I was too annoyed w/ Marianne   kathleen (elder)   (9/16/2009 5:27 a.m.)
              • me, too   Karen G   (9/16/2009 10:53 a.m.)
    • Willoughby and Wentworth   Heather Leigh   (9/14/2009 4:16 p.m.)
    • Seasons   Barbara   (9/14/2009 3:35 p.m.)
  • Back in Ch. 13   Barbara   (9/14/2009 2:36 p.m.)
  • The Dashwood women accepted Willoughby   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 2:23 p.m.)
    • Not only at face value   Outi   (9/15/2009 2:57 a.m.)
      • Does Sir John know about Willoughby's family   kathleen (elder)   (9/15/2009 5:22 a.m.)
        • Sir John gives some information   Outi   (9/15/2009 1:27 p.m.)
          • And   Outi   (9/15/2009 1:55 p.m.)
            • I agree that Sir John had nothing negative to say   kathleen (elder)   (9/15/2009 2:56 p.m.)
        • He knows Willoughby usually sleeps in until noon   Barbara   (9/15/2009 1:21 p.m.)
          • Tendency towards dissipation   Robbin   (9/17/2009 5:40 p.m.)
            • 8 is not his usual time   Barbara   (9/17/2009 5:51 p.m.)
              • Up at 8 a.m.   Carol J.   (9/20/2009 5:18 p.m.)
                • But it was also very out of the ordinary for him (nfm)   Barbara   (9/20/2009 7:13 p.m.)
              • Thanks, I see now! (:D) nfm   Robbin   (9/17/2009 6:22 p.m.)
        • Best little dog   Barb JA   (9/15/2009 8:36 a.m.)
• Reading Hamlet with Willoughby   Barbara   (9/14/2009 12:40 p.m.)
  • Very interesting reading, thank you;-) (nfm)   Moni   (9/17/2009 10:30 a.m.)
  • And another very telling passage . . .   Mary Anne   (9/14/2009 7:46 p.m.)
  • Once again, thanks so much Barbara! (:D) nfm   Robbin   (9/14/2009 5:45 p.m.)
  • Thanks, Barbara; this is why I so enjoy our GR's!   Cathy Allen   (9/14/2009 5:24 p.m.)
  • The Cambridge S&S   Anselm   (9/14/2009 4:12 p.m.)
    • I'll be interested to read that   Barbara   (9/17/2009 8:19 p.m.)
• Ardor   Ivonne   (9/14/2009 10:37 a.m.)
  • Of ardour...   Anselm   (9/15/2009 12:26 p.m.)
    • Degrees of warmth   Ivonne   (9/16/2009 9:00 a.m.)
  • I did not notice the use of the word, thanks for mentioning it   Cathy Allen   (9/14/2009 6:59 p.m.)
• Mommy Dearest   Robbin   (9/14/2009 9:25 a.m.)
  • On a related note   JoAnn   (9/17/2009 1:50 a.m.)
  • Elinor fan   Karen G   (9/16/2009 1:17 p.m.)
  • She is almost accusing Elinor of wishing   Graciela   (9/15/2009 2:30 a.m.)
  • Resentment   Barb JA   (9/14/2009 10:57 a.m.)
    • The conversation between Marianne and Willoughby...   Cathy Allen   (9/14/2009 5:21 p.m.)
    • Stepping up when it counts   Robbin   (9/14/2009 4:56 p.m.)
      • Well said! nfm   Rachel G   (9/14/2009 5:16 p.m.)
• Mrs. Dashwood's romantic delicacy   Barb JA   (9/14/2009 8:45 a.m.)
  • Mrs. D and Marianne   Carol J.   (9/20/2009 5:00 p.m.)
    • Marianne is 17 now   Barbara   (9/20/2009 7:19 p.m.)
  • Secret engagement?   Graciela   (9/15/2009 2:19 a.m.)
  • Marianne's inconsistency?   Anselm   (9/14/2009 11:55 a.m.)
  • I think, as you have quoted...   Reeba   (9/14/2009 10:32 a.m.)
    • Also...   Karen G.   (9/14/2009 11:01 p.m.)
• The cult of sensibility   Elizabeth K   (9/14/2009 7:12 a.m.)
  • But she likes being ill for that reason   CarolTS   (9/14/2009 2:09 p.m.)
• Why does Marianne forget Margaret?   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 5:55 a.m.)
  • Margaret   Mudita   (9/14/2009 6:43 a.m.)
    • Margaret   Bridget D   (9/14/2009 7:39 a.m.)
      • Poor Margaret   Barb JA   (9/14/2009 8:15 a.m.)
• Potent sensibility!   Barbara   (9/14/2009 2:13 a.m.)
  • Making a tragedy out of a setback.   Rachel G   (9/14/2009 9:43 a.m.)
    • Fussing over Trifles   Robbin   (9/17/2009 12:50 p.m.)
      • Statement to Marianne   CarolTS   (9/17/2009 1:25 p.m.)
        • How & When to Weep   Robbin   (9/19/2009 10:15 p.m.)
        • Misinterpreting, rationalizing and ignoring   Robbin   (9/19/2009 9:57 p.m.)
          • I completely agree   CarolTS   (9/20/2009 12:40 a.m.)
        • Exactly   Barbara   (9/17/2009 3:23 p.m.)
  • Living Up to Her Words   Robbin   (9/14/2009 8:53 a.m.)
    • If Marianne is scripted behaviour, where did Elinor get hers?   Karen G.   (9/14/2009 10:47 p.m.)
      • I wonder too.   Lex   (9/15/2009 7:24 a.m.)
        • You have a point here   Outi   (9/15/2009 2:48 p.m.)
          • Place within family   Karen G.   (9/16/2009 12:07 a.m.)
  • Feelings that make composure a disgrace   Barb JA   (9/14/2009 8:07 a.m.)
    • Living her romantic sensibilities   Robbin   (9/15/2009 11:11 p.m.)
      • Is Mrs. Dashwood scripted?   Barb JA   (9/17/2009 10:50 a.m.)
        • I'd not noticed   Ivonne   (9/18/2009 10:53 a.m.)
        • Subtle differences   Robbin   (9/18/2009 10:06 a.m.)
• A hint that Marianne believes she is engaged?   Barbara   (9/14/2009 1:55 a.m.)
  • Absolutely...   Moni   (9/18/2009 7:21 a.m.)
  • Ahh -- VERY clever, Barbara! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/14/2009 2:21 p.m.)
• Separating the rumours from truth re: Colonel Brandon   Barbara   (9/14/2009 1:48 a.m.)
  • Do we know   Karen G   (9/14/2009 1:45 p.m.)
    • Natural daughter   Barbara   (9/14/2009 1:49 p.m.)
      • Thanks   Karen G   (9/14/2009 2:46 p.m.)
  • We have a little hint eariler   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 5:51 a.m.)
    • He *once* knew   Barbara   (9/14/2009 10:15 a.m.)
• Descriptions of the Miss Dashwoods   kathleen (elder)   (9/13/2009 6:47 p.m.)
  • I think Elinor is taller because...   Reeba   (9/14/2009 10:13 a.m.)
    • I have always read it...   BarbaraB   (9/15/2009 4:03 p.m.)
      • Except   Barbara   (9/15/2009 4:54 p.m.)
        • Oh, okay   BarbaraB   (9/15/2009 6:52 p.m.)
    • I agree with you that Elinor is taller   Outi   (9/15/2009 3:11 p.m.)
      • tall and elegant vs short and curvey   Carol J.   (9/20/2009 12:16 a.m.)
    • Correction.   Reeba   (9/14/2009 10:47 a.m.)
      • Why I read it as Marianne being taller   kathleen (elder)   (9/14/2009 11:24 a.m.)
        • The commas.   Reeba   (9/15/2009 5:11 p.m.)
          • The comma after 'sister's'   Barbara   (9/15/2009 5:22 p.m.)
        • Taller=striking   Barbara   (9/14/2009 5:27 p.m.)
          • And maybe 'correct' refers to posture and carraige?   Elbč   (9/14/2009 7:22 p.m.)
  • Classic vs romantic ideals of beauty   Heather Leigh   (9/14/2009 12:58 a.m.)
  • Physical descriptions   Barbara   (9/13/2009 7:15 p.m.)
    • Narrator or Willoughby   Barb JA   (9/14/2009 7:23 a.m.)
      • Slippery Jane   Ivonne   (9/14/2009 9:42 a.m.)
        • Thank you   Barb JA   (9/15/2009 8:01 a.m.)
          • Very good point   Ivonne   (9/16/2009 8:51 a.m.)
• The great uncle´s miniature...   MarianneR   (9/13/2009 12:43 p.m.)
  • Probably the late owner of Norland   Barbara   (9/13/2009 1:22 p.m.)
    • Norland her first love   Karen G.   (9/13/2009 7:25 p.m.)
• Leading Marianne astray   Barbara   (9/12/2009 6:52 p.m.)
  • Blemishes on Virtue   Robbin   (9/14/2009 11:30 a.m.)
    • "based on lies"   Angela C   (9/15/2009 12:02 p.m.)
      • To the advantage of both   Robbin   (9/15/2009 11:35 p.m.)
        • Willoughby's Influence   BarbaraB   (9/16/2009 9:51 p.m.)
  • There is a great contrast   Nina RG   (9/13/2009 6:09 a.m.)
  • Irrefutable logic.   nan duval   (9/12/2009 7:31 p.m.)
    • Really modern...   Moni   (9/13/2009 7:57 a.m.)
      • So immature   Suzanne K   (9/13/2009 1:00 p.m.)
        • Not really. :-)   Reeba   (9/14/2009 9:42 a.m.)
• What is Willoughby's Problem Anyway? (Ch 10)   BarbaraB   (9/12/2009 4:30 p.m.)
  • It Strikes Me...   maud l   (9/17/2009 1:43 a.m.)
    • Willoughby and Brandon   Carol J.   (9/19/2009 11:49 p.m.)
      • Do we know if Brandon   CarolTS   (9/20/2009 12:38 a.m.)
        • And Willoughby doesn't hang around Barton Park all the time   Barbara   (9/20/2009 1:08 a.m.)
  • Willoughby in the winner's seat?   BarbaraB   (9/14/2009 1:13 a.m.)
  • Perhaps he is parroting Marianne again?   kathleen (elder)   (9/12/2009 4:58 p.m.)
    • Other way around, rather   Mary Anne   (9/12/2009 7:32 p.m.)
      • Willoughby parroting Marianne.   Reeba   (9/14/2009 9:58 a.m.)
      • Envy   Robbin   (9/12/2009 9:46 p.m.)
        • Nabobs and palanquins--another jab at the colonel   Barbara   (9/14/2009 5:46 p.m.)
          • Revealing himself though his actions   Robbin   (9/18/2009 10:29 a.m.)
        • Mr Willoughby's finances   Tom P2   (9/14/2009 3:33 a.m.)
          • Net Spendable Income   Robbin   (9/14/2009 1:31 p.m.)
            • Thanks! (I must've chosen bad search terms for the archive) nfm   Tom P2   (9/14/2009 5:34 p.m.)
            • So he's lying?   CarolTS   (9/14/2009 1:57 p.m.)
        • Envious of wealth, situation, and more   Mary Anne   (9/13/2009 9:24 a.m.)
          • Is not Willoughby generally respected?   Robbin   (9/13/2009 8:54 p.m.)
            • Mrs. Smith?   Barbara   (9/13/2009 9:26 p.m.)
              • Puppet on a purse-string   Robbin   (9/13/2009 11:23 p.m.)
        • I agree. I cannot say more. (nfm)   Lex   (9/13/2009 9:09 a.m.)
    • Totally bogus!   Barbara   (9/12/2009 6:11 p.m.)
      • A question of Candour   Robbin   (9/13/2009 10:59 p.m.)
      • What exactly is the 'hanging of a curricle'?   Elbč   (9/13/2009 3:52 p.m.)
        • Brown mare and curricle   Barbara   (9/13/2009 4:23 p.m.)
          • Thank you!   Elbč   (9/13/2009 5:36 p.m.)
            • A good eye for a horse   Barbara   (9/13/2009 5:53 p.m.)
              • New thought about the horse   Karen G.   (9/13/2009 7:46 p.m.)
      • Nice evaluation   CarolTS   (9/12/2009 6:31 p.m.)
    • Or.....   Rachel G   (9/12/2009 5:42 p.m.)
• Colonel Brandon : Elinor's Observations   BarbaraB   (9/12/2009 3:22 p.m.)
  • Elinor's opinion of Col Brandon   Reeba   (9/14/2009 9:34 a.m.)
  • It looks like Col B. and Elinor would be a good match   Cathy Allen   (9/12/2009 11:43 p.m.)
    • Col. Brandon and Elinor   Carol J.   (9/19/2009 11:10 p.m.)
      • I agree; they'd make a good match!   Cathy Allen   (9/22/2009 6:35 p.m.)
• Some (possible) evidence on John living w/ his sisters   kathleen (elder)   (9/12/2009 3:08 p.m.)
  • I'm still struggling...   Anselm   (9/14/2009 3:36 p.m.)
    • Occasional visits after they married   Barbara   (9/14/2009 3:48 p.m.)
      • What's that clinking sound?   Anselm   (9/14/2009 4:07 p.m.)
  • Thanks for opening my eyes   MarianneR   (9/13/2009 11:32 a.m.)
  • Goodness, this is...   Moni   (9/13/2009 7:10 a.m.)
  • Thanks for bringing this up, Kathleen   Cathy Allen   (9/12/2009 11:32 p.m.)
  • Must Agree   BarbaraB   (9/12/2009 3:37 p.m.)
• Margaret's "elegant" description?   kathleen (elder)   (9/12/2009 10:51 a.m.)
  • My Oxford Word's Classics editions says in the notes...   Melissa K.   (9/16/2009 9:19 a.m.)
    • Oh good info, thanks! (nfm)   Ivonne   (9/16/2009 8:47 p.m.)
  • Calling someone 'preserver'   Barbara   (9/12/2009 4:11 p.m.)
    • Good reading, thank you ;-) (nfm)   Moni   (9/13/2009 7:13 a.m.)
    • Yes, makes more sense now, thanks nfm   BarbaraB   (9/12/2009 5:17 p.m.)
    • A Shakespearean reference would make sense   kathleen (elder)   (9/12/2009 4:50 p.m.)
  • Preserver   Rachel G   (9/12/2009 3:09 p.m.)
  • I see what you mean   BarbaraB   (9/12/2009 12:26 p.m.)
    • While looking up...   Reeba   (9/12/2009 1:10 p.m.)
      • Hmmmm   BarbaraB   (9/12/2009 2:18 p.m.)
• Admiring Pope no more than was proper   Barbara   (9/12/2009 2:09 a.m.)
  • Pope   Elizabeth K   (9/14/2009 9:04 a.m.)
  • From what I understand of Pope...   Erica M.   (9/12/2009 10:57 a.m.)
    • His 'In Imitation of Chaucer' is quite earthy...   Tom P2   (9/13/2009 9:31 p.m.)
• Exactly formed to engage Marianne's heart? (long)   Robbin   (9/12/2009 12:53 a.m.)
  • Barton Cottage---Entrances   BarbaraB   (9/13/2009 2:37 p.m.)
    • As we're comparing Edward and Willoughby,   Anselm   (9/14/2009 3:57 p.m.)
      • Heart or Manner   Robbin   (9/14/2009 5:34 p.m.)
        • open, affectionate manners   Kathryn Ann   (9/16/2009 4:55 p.m.)
      • Wow   BarbaraB   (9/14/2009 4:18 p.m.)
        • No "might" about it!   Anselm   (9/15/2009 7:20 a.m.)
          • LOL! I Know, I Know but...   BarbaraB   (9/15/2009 2:55 p.m.)
      • Interesting indeed. *nfm*   MarianneR   (9/14/2009 4:02 p.m.)
    • Edward – Dazed & Confused?   Robbin   (9/13/2009 9:54 p.m.)
  • Willoughby in action. (long)   nan duval   (9/12/2009 5:43 p.m.)
    • Inattentive & Self-Centered   Robbin   (9/13/2009 5:02 p.m.)
      • Queen Mab   Barbara   (9/13/2009 5:50 p.m.)
        • Very illuminating! *nfm*   MarianneR   (9/14/2009 2:41 a.m.)
        • Definitely worth it!   Robbin   (9/13/2009 10:05 p.m.)
    • Well done, nan; very clear   Cathy Allen   (9/12/2009 11:19 p.m.)
    • But that was Mrs. Dashwood speaking   CarolTS   (9/12/2009 6:19 p.m.)
    • Willoughby keeps his wits about him :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/12/2009 6:17 p.m.)
      • Good point!   Melissa K.   (9/16/2009 10:36 a.m.)
      • Good reading and also interesting that...   Moni   (9/13/2009 7:47 a.m.)
        • I agree, and also   kathleen (elder)   (9/13/2009 8:42 a.m.)
          • Mr. Impudence   Robbin   (9/13/2009 11:58 a.m.)
            • Trying to Out-fox a Fox   BarbaraB   (9/13/2009 2:01 p.m.)
  • I agree, he seems to be perfect   Martina C   (9/12/2009 9:10 a.m.)
  • Does she cease to worry about the inside   CarolTS   (9/12/2009 1:40 a.m.)
    • Judging Willoughby’s heart   Robbin   (9/12/2009 4:28 p.m.)
    • Yes, I feel its due to Marianne's philosophy   Elbč   (9/12/2009 7:04 a.m.)
  • Strikingly alike   Barbara   (9/12/2009 1:20 a.m.)
    • Lovers & Connoisseurs   Robbin   (9/12/2009 3:56 p.m.)
      • Good observation   Nina RG   (9/13/2009 6:22 a.m.)
        • Unwilling to awaken from her dream   Robbin   (9/13/2009 12:24 p.m.)
• R&S?   Anselm   (9/11/2009 12:33 p.m.)
  • Contrast Marianne and Catherine Morland   Karen G   (9/11/2009 3:26 p.m.)
• The estimation of a sportsman...   MarianneR   (9/11/2009 3:49 a.m.)
  • "Sport" vs "hunting"   Heather Leigh   (9/11/2009 11:18 a.m.)
    • Foxes   Bridget D   (9/12/2009 4:15 a.m.)
      • B- L-U-N-D-E-R.   Heather Leigh   (9/12/2009 9:08 a.m.)
        • Let's stop this discussion here   Myretta   (9/12/2009 10:01 a.m.)
    • Hunting and Shooting   Myretta   (9/11/2009 11:57 a.m.)
      • Sports and hunting in Regency England   Elizabeth K   (9/12/2009 5:14 a.m.)
        • Not accurate   Myretta   (9/12/2009 10:00 a.m.)
          • So it does!   Elizabeth K   (9/12/2009 11:00 a.m.)
      • Hunting is also mentioned in The Watsons   Tom P2   (9/11/2009 9:09 p.m.)
      • Thanks for clearification   MarianneR   (9/11/2009 2:56 p.m.)
      • Hunting   Heather Leigh   (9/11/2009 1:16 p.m.)
        • Actually, one of JA's brothers went fox hunting   Elizabeth K   (9/11/2009 3:36 p.m.)
  • that's how I read it too, MarianneR   Heather Leigh   (9/11/2009 11:10 a.m.)
    • Ah yes. Makes sense. Thanks   Reeba   (9/11/2009 11:18 a.m.)
      • I think the cottage is located "within his manor"   Heather Leigh   (9/11/2009 11:37 a.m.)
        • Thanks. :-) nfm   Reeba   (9/11/2009 11:46 a.m.)
• Is this a jot or a tittle?   Anselm   (9/10/2009 11:26 a.m.)
  • As for the "affectionate principle"   kathleen (elder)   (9/10/2009 2:26 p.m.)
    • Thanks - these are perfect explanations!   Anselm   (9/11/2009 4:41 a.m.)
      • Not snide   Barb JA   (9/11/2009 7:21 a.m.)
        • "Snide" was way too much.   Anselm   (9/11/2009 10:13 a.m.)
          • I agree about the twinkle in her eye!   Heather Leigh   (9/11/2009 1:08 p.m.)
            • I agree!   Karen G.   (9/13/2009 7:07 p.m.)
          • I see it that way too.   Reeba   (9/11/2009 10:21 a.m.)
            • Perhaps you mean the passage immediately following   kathleen (elder)   (9/11/2009 5:29 p.m.)
              • Exactly.   Reeba   (9/12/2009 5:06 a.m.)
                • Exertion   Barb JA   (9/12/2009 10:08 a.m.)
                  • Yes, Elinor...   Reeba   (9/12/2009 12:10 p.m.)
                    • A further explanation of the quote   Barb JA   (9/13/2009 8:33 a.m.)
            • Nah...   Barb JA   (9/11/2009 1:22 p.m.)
              • St Elinor?   Heather Leigh   (9/11/2009 1:37 p.m.)
                • Why, yes.   Barb JA   (9/11/2009 2:05 p.m.)
  • My mother, my aunt, etc.   kathleen (elder)   (9/10/2009 12:30 p.m.)
    • As the French would have it   Barbara   (9/10/2009 1:51 p.m.)
      • Glad for the Explanation   Mudita   (9/13/2009 1:26 a.m.)
• Marianne and the language of absolutes   Barbara   (9/10/2009 1:48 a.m.)
  • Some more thoughts   MarianneR   (9/10/2009 4:48 a.m.)
    • The blinkered perspective of youth.   Rachel G   (9/10/2009 5:58 a.m.)
      • I think that   Reeba   (9/10/2009 6:19 a.m.)
        • Hmmm   Elizabeth K   (9/10/2009 6:38 a.m.)
          • Would you then say that ...   Reeba   (9/10/2009 10:07 a.m.)
            • The difference in upbringing   Elizabeth K   (9/10/2009 3:32 p.m.)
              • Age and upbringing   Barbara   (9/10/2009 4:31 p.m.)
                • Ah, thank you Barbara   Elizabeth K   (9/11/2009 6:12 a.m.)
                  • Her family might have had some social status   Barbara   (9/11/2009 10:20 a.m.)
                    • Why a baronet?   Graciela   (9/11/2009 1:17 p.m.)
                      • Because...   Barbara   (9/11/2009 2:42 p.m.)
                        • In SS2, he was Col Christopher Brandon...   janelt   (9/11/2009 3:52 p.m.)
                • I'm sure you're right about Mrs Dashwood's background.   Anselm   (9/11/2009 4:50 a.m.)
                  • Except no 7000   Barbara   (9/11/2009 10:18 a.m.)
                    • I assume you're using the word "more" to mean   Anselm   (9/11/2009 11:46 a.m.)
            • I wonder if ...   Anselm   (9/10/2009 10:55 a.m.)
• Doubt, belief and proof   Barbara   (9/10/2009 1:40 a.m.)
  • Truth Seers   Robbin   (9/12/2009 1:19 a.m.)
    • Sounds a little like Mrs. Jennings too...   Kathryn Ann   (9/14/2009 10:23 a.m.)
  • Marianne & Mrs. D vs Elinor   BarbaraB   (9/10/2009 2:45 p.m.)
  • Why was Elinor different?   Glenn   (9/10/2009 1:56 p.m.)
    • Why are siblings different from each other?   Heather Leigh   (9/10/2009 8:34 p.m.)
      • Interesting observation   MarianneR   (9/11/2009 3:08 a.m.)
      • Family likenesses   Carol J.   (9/10/2009 11:31 p.m.)
        • I think that if she...   Angela C   (9/11/2009 11:03 a.m.)
  • Fascinating   Barb JA   (9/10/2009 9:04 a.m.)
  • Result: Disappointment.   Lex   (9/10/2009 4:40 a.m.)
• Satire in every chapter so far   Glenn   (9/9/2009 8:10 p.m.)
  • Is this Marianne or the omniscient narrator?   LouAnn   (9/10/2009 9:50 p.m.)
    • Marianne   CarolTS   (9/11/2009 2:06 a.m.)
  • Taste and musical appreciation   Barb JA   (9/10/2009 8:15 a.m.)
    • They have a pianoforte. Doesn't that imply an appreciation for...   janelt   (9/10/2009 7:57 p.m.)
      • Taste displayed for all to see   Barb JA   (9/11/2009 8:35 a.m.)
      • Pianofortes   Barbara   (9/10/2009 11:03 p.m.)
        • But if Lady Catherine had ever learnt   Graciela   (9/11/2009 1:28 a.m.)
          • Thank you, ladies!   janelt   (9/11/2009 3:55 p.m.)
  • I think you're right   Carol J.   (9/9/2009 8:23 p.m.)
    • From the way it was worded,   CarolTS   (9/10/2009 12:50 a.m.)
      • This is how I read this, too.   MarianneR   (9/10/2009 3:59 a.m.)
        • I hear echoes of Lady Catherine in these claims... (nfm)   JoAnn   (9/11/2009 12:09 p.m.)
    • Did she want it repeated for Sir John's sake?   janelt   (9/9/2009 11:29 p.m.)
      • She was only pleased w/ Brandon's behaviour   Gina Marie   (9/10/2009 7:27 a.m.)
• Near Relations and far :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/9/2009 6:13 a.m.)
  • Were relatives sent bereavement notices?   janelt   (9/9/2009 11:36 p.m.)
    • But the estate wasn't originally entailed.   CarolTS   (9/10/2009 12:47 a.m.)
      • Perhaps it was...   Reeba   (9/10/2009 6:25 a.m.)
        • I wonder if this is a clue?   Barbara   (9/10/2009 10:25 a.m.)
          • I agree   BarbaraB   (9/10/2009 1:37 p.m.)
            • Yes, this offer is months after Henry Dashwood's death   Barbara   (9/10/2009 1:49 p.m.)
              • How do you know   MarianneR   (9/10/2009 4:44 p.m.)
                • Backdating   Barbara   (9/10/2009 5:17 p.m.)
                  • Very observant! Thank you. *nfm*   MarianneR   (9/11/2009 3:12 a.m.)
  • Never thought of that before!   CarolTS   (9/9/2009 12:44 p.m.)
  • The Offer of Barton Cottage   Kathryn Ann   (9/9/2009 9:19 a.m.)
• The Colonel, comfortable in his own flannel.   janelt   (9/8/2009 11:45 p.m.)
  • As an amateur musician myself...   Cathy Allen   (9/9/2009 5:19 p.m.)
  • Enter Colonel Brandon   Elizabeth K (moved by moderator)   (9/9/2009 10:48 a.m.)
    • Interesting points about Marianne and the colonel   Barbara   (9/9/2009 2:48 p.m.)
      • Raptures   Barb JA   (9/10/2009 8:02 a.m.)
      • If the Colonel had been more animated in his response...   janelt   (9/9/2009 11:48 p.m.)
        • Age group.   Reeba   (9/10/2009 6:06 a.m.)
          • I meant it in jest :-)   janelt   (9/10/2009 7:46 p.m.)
  • Yes, I mentioned...   Reeba   (9/9/2009 2:31 a.m.)
    • Some more thoughts.   Reeba   (9/9/2009 4:07 a.m.)
      • Indeed, I had thought so too.   nan duval   (9/10/2009 6:39 p.m.)
      • By all means, please do go on!   janelt   (9/9/2009 8:21 p.m.)
        • You crack me up!   Barb JA   (9/10/2009 7:12 a.m.)
        • LOL!   Reeba   (9/10/2009 6:08 a.m.)
      • I've always supposed this too   Barbara   (9/9/2009 12:05 p.m.)
      • Agreed   Elbč   (9/9/2009 8:19 a.m.)
  • Beyond what we're reading?   CarolTS   (9/9/2009 2:16 a.m.)
    • Chapter 8   Barb JA   (9/9/2009 12:00 p.m.)
      • Yes--not a spoiler   Barbara   (9/9/2009 12:07 p.m.)
        • Yes! Ch 8. Very sorry for the typo. NFM   janelt   (9/9/2009 12:42 p.m.)
          • Sorry   CarolTS   (9/9/2009 12:45 p.m.)
• Questions about the cottage   Gina Marie   (9/8/2009 2:27 p.m.)
  • Where's the dining room?   Anselm   (9/9/2009 5:02 a.m.)
  • What is a "cottage" anyway?   Louise H   (9/8/2009 9:32 p.m.)
    • From the description given   JoAnn   (9/11/2009 2:05 a.m.)
      • This might be what Marianne expected   Barbara   (9/15/2009 1:26 a.m.)
      • Yes, I"m beginning to think   Louise H   (9/11/2009 3:00 p.m.)
    • Another cottage   Louise H   (9/9/2009 7:12 a.m.)
    • Explanation from Norton Critical Edition   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 10:41 p.m.)
      • Chawton cottage.   Reeba   (9/9/2009 2:57 a.m.)
        • I had a similar image   BarbaraB   (9/9/2009 10:47 a.m.)
  • guest room   Gina Marie   (9/8/2009 4:03 p.m.)
    • I agree   MarianneR   (9/8/2009 5:10 p.m.)
      • Shared rooms   Leah Noel   (9/8/2009 9:24 p.m.)
        • Mrs. Dashwood and Margaret together?   Louise H   (9/9/2009 11:42 a.m.)
          • I read that too   Barbara   (9/9/2009 11:52 a.m.)
  • Kitchen?   Carol J.   (9/8/2009 3:08 p.m.)
    • Part of the 'Offices'   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 3:49 p.m.)
  • From the L&T archives   Barbara   (9/8/2009 2:33 p.m.)
    • Thank you, Barbara.   janelt   (9/8/2009 9:42 p.m.)
• Devonshire, here we come!   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 6:29 a.m.)
  • A very snug little cottage.   Rachel G   (9/8/2009 12:02 p.m.)
    • On my first reading, I had assumed that the cottage   kathleen (elder)   (9/8/2009 5:43 p.m.)
      • I can only imagine how big Norland was :-) NFM   janelt   (9/8/2009 11:04 p.m.)
      • me, too--I wouldn't mind one of these LITTLE cottages! : D (nfm)   Ivonne   (9/8/2009 5:56 p.m.)
    • 16 feet square   Barbara   (9/8/2009 1:05 p.m.)
      • 16 feet square is different from 16 square feet.   Christopher   (9/8/2009 1:35 p.m.)
        • It depends, I guess   Barbara   (9/8/2009 2:19 p.m.)
          • In either case, it would seem that they moved into a broom closet   janelt   (9/8/2009 5:43 p.m.)
  • Barton Cottage   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 11:54 a.m.)
• Farewell to Norland.   Rachel G   (9/8/2009 6:19 a.m.)
  • She's sixteen right here and it shows   Angela C   (9/8/2009 6:09 p.m.)
    • "She will be married at sixteen!" (Mrs Bennett)   Heather Leigh   (9/9/2009 11:23 a.m.)
    • I have this feeling that...   Reeba   (9/9/2009 3:06 a.m.)
      • Good Point nfm   BarbaraB   (9/9/2009 10:32 a.m.)
    • I think you've got another piece of the puzzle that is Marianne   Cathy Allen   (9/8/2009 6:43 p.m.)
      • I agree   Melissa K.   (9/8/2009 9:34 p.m.)
        • Yeah she simply had yet...   Angela C   (9/9/2009 12:11 a.m.)
  • As noted below, she's like her mother   LouAnn   (9/8/2009 3:02 p.m.)
    • Another :-)   Barb JA   (9/9/2009 8:38 a.m.)
  • Drama Queen   Carol J.   (9/8/2009 3:01 p.m.)
  • Marianne reminds me of a Silent-Movie tragic heroine   Cathy Allen   (9/8/2009 1:33 p.m.)
    • FABulous! lol : D (nfm)   Ivonne   (9/8/2009 6:32 p.m.)
    • This very much how I see her, too   Outi   (9/8/2009 3:52 p.m.)
  • Sensibility=prescribed reactions   Barbara   (9/8/2009 1:19 p.m.)
    • Why, it's practically plagiarism!   Ivonne   (9/8/2009 6:30 p.m.)
    • That's the Irony of it all   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 4:28 p.m.)
    • She must have read that poem...   Rachel G   (9/8/2009 2:53 p.m.)
• Mothers (and some daughters who are like them!) [long]   kathleen (elder)   (9/8/2009 6:15 a.m.)
  • Fascinating and succinct; thanks, Kathleen! (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/9/2009 5:05 p.m.)
  • Mrs. Jennings and Lady Middleton   CarolTS   (9/8/2009 7:51 p.m.)
    • Mrs. Jennings and Sir John Middleton   Leah Noel   (9/8/2009 9:18 p.m.)
  • Thanks   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 3:40 p.m.)
  • JA isn't very easy on mothers   Outi   (9/8/2009 12:48 p.m.)
  • Quite an assortment   Reeba   (9/8/2009 7:00 a.m.)
• The gravity of Colonel Brandon...   janelt   (9/8/2009 12:38 a.m.)
  • Marianne's first impression (long)   Karen G.   (9/10/2009 11:09 p.m.)
  • Col Brandon and Mrs. Dashwood   Carol J.   (9/8/2009 1:25 p.m.)
    • A widow vs. eligible daughters for a never-married man.   Barbara   (9/8/2009 2:23 p.m.)
  • I have nothing to add   Outi   (9/8/2009 12:40 p.m.)
  • Grave and yet..   Reeba   (9/8/2009 6:11 a.m.)
  • The calm, serious, and reasonable Colonel...   Heather Leigh   (9/8/2009 1:52 a.m.)
    • Are we sure he is admiring her at this point?   Elbč   (9/8/2009 4:22 a.m.)
  • Clues about the colonel?   Barbara   (9/8/2009 1:26 a.m.)
    • Response about flannel waistcoat at S&S board. nfm   Reeba   (9/8/2009 5:00 p.m.)
      • Please don't divert GR discussion to the novel board   Barbara   (9/8/2009 5:31 p.m.)
        • As I won't be..   Reeba   (9/8/2009 5:43 p.m.)
• Frustrating vagueness of E-E romance   Heather Leigh   (9/8/2009 12:07 a.m.)
  • Ch. 4   Barbara   (9/8/2009 1:39 a.m.)
    • S&S as work of a young novelist   Heather Leigh   (9/8/2009 10:21 p.m.)
      • Edward Ferrars mystery...   Moni   (9/13/2009 7:28 a.m.)
• An Inheritance Question   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 11:14 p.m.)
  • But the question is   CarolTS   (9/8/2009 1:09 a.m.)
    • I see your point   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 11:40 a.m.)
  • Entails and Life Interests   Caroline   (9/8/2009 12:25 a.m.)
    • Caroline -- you will need a modifier for your name :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/8/2009 5:27 a.m.)
• Late to the party!   DebraLee   (9/7/2009 9:36 p.m.)
• The expectations of society   Elizabeth K   (9/7/2009 11:20 a.m.)
  • Edward in a barouche   Carol J.   (9/7/2009 6:09 p.m.)
    • What does Jane have against barouches? :-)   Heather Leigh   (9/7/2009 11:00 p.m.)
      • Fancy carriages   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 4:30 a.m.)
        • Barouches   Carol J.   (9/8/2009 1:00 p.m.)
          • The latest thing   Barbara   (9/8/2009 2:25 p.m.)
          • Sports cars   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 1:45 p.m.)
        • Thank you! what a great link   Heather Leigh   (9/8/2009 11:23 a.m.)
          • Thanks from me too - fascinating stuff! nfm   Rachel G   (9/8/2009 11:38 a.m.)
            • Excellent article, thanks (spoiler in link though) nfm   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 11:43 a.m.)
    • Two Mrs Dashwoods.   Rachel G   (9/7/2009 6:41 p.m.)
      • Dashwoods   Carol J.   (9/7/2009 7:37 p.m.)
        • Fanny was referred by her husband's first name.   Graciela   (9/7/2009 9:52 p.m.)
    • That's Mrs John Dashwood, not Mrs Henry Dashwood   kathleen (elder)   (9/7/2009 6:29 p.m.)
      • Great minds.... LOL!! nfm   Rachel G   (9/7/2009 6:42 p.m.)
• Brothers   kathleen (elder)   (9/7/2009 8:42 a.m.)
  • Likeability   Robbin   (9/8/2009 1:01 p.m.)
    • However,   Anselm   (9/9/2009 5:18 a.m.)
      • Steady John   CarolTS   (9/9/2009 12:36 p.m.)
        • I totally agree with you about "steady",   Anselm   (9/10/2009 9:24 a.m.)
          • John Dashwood thinks   nan duval   (9/10/2009 6:34 p.m.)
            • Brother, know thy self?   Robbin   (9/12/2009 3:24 p.m.)
          • Respectability, it seems, is relative   BarbaraB   (9/10/2009 4:33 p.m.)
          • Respectable.   Rachel G   (9/10/2009 10:40 a.m.)
            • Appearances   Robbin   (9/10/2009 4:38 p.m.)
            • Exactly how I see it! nfm   CarolTS   (9/10/2009 12:36 p.m.)
      • Apologies, this is part of my previous message   Anselm   (9/9/2009 5:27 a.m.)
• A question about grammar   Cathy Allen   (9/6/2009 11:44 p.m.)
  • An before H   Myretta   (9/7/2009 10:18 a.m.)
    • Thanks, Myretta; I wondered if I was being too esoteric here   Cathy Allen   (9/7/2009 6:35 p.m.)
      • Glad you asked   Nina RG   (9/8/2009 7:15 a.m.)
• Ch 3: What is love?   janelt   (9/6/2009 8:26 p.m.)
  • As a brother or son   Nina RG   (9/7/2009 8:44 a.m.)
    • Yes, but it's so soon!   janelt   (9/7/2009 2:24 p.m.)
      • I wouldn't call her *very rational*   Graciela   (9/7/2009 5:54 p.m.)
        • Agreed. Another passage that supports your point is...   janelt   (9/7/2009 11:22 p.m.)
          • Reminds me of   Divya   (9/8/2009 9:01 a.m.)
  • Of course she means that she loves him as a son!   Graciela   (9/7/2009 12:58 a.m.)
    • Nope, I did not mean that :-)   janelt   (9/7/2009 2:22 p.m.)
• Up and down the family trees   janelt   (9/6/2009 7:34 p.m.)
  • Very helpful - thank you! *nfm*   MarianneR   (9/8/2009 5:20 p.m.)
  • Thank You nfm   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 11:34 a.m.)
• Is Ch.2 for real?   Anselm   (9/6/2009 1:51 p.m.)
  • At auction in Chapter 2 (long--sorry!)   Ivonne   (9/7/2009 2:01 p.m.)
    • I always thought the foot wasn't hers to put down.   Anselm   (9/9/2009 4:54 a.m.)
      • Missing something...?   Rachel G   (9/9/2009 8:37 a.m.)
        • Yes, but...   Anselm   (9/9/2009 11:42 a.m.)
          • Addictive cycle of self indulgence and pride   Karen G   (9/9/2009 1:59 p.m.)
            • Good analysis!   Rachel G   (9/9/2009 3:01 p.m.)
              • A tongue-in-cheek response   Anselm   (9/10/2009 11:06 a.m.)
                • Watch closely...   Rachel G   (9/10/2009 2:28 p.m.)
    • Subtle Manipulation?   Caroline   (9/7/2009 10:43 p.m.)
      • thanks, everyone, for the helpful input! (nfm)   Ivonne   (9/8/2009 6:21 p.m.)
    • Fanny the wheedler: how methodical and assertive is she really?   Tom P2   (9/7/2009 8:24 p.m.)
    • Delicious Chapter 2   RobinJ   (9/7/2009 7:15 p.m.)
    • Domestic Tranquility   Robbin   (9/7/2009 5:55 p.m.)
      • I am guilty of this   Gina Marie   (9/9/2009 7:19 a.m.)
    • Helpful analysis   Suzanne K   (9/7/2009 5:45 p.m.)
  • Something I noticed in Chapter 2...   Melissa K.   (9/7/2009 12:07 p.m.)
  • Fanny amazes me; I thought I was queen of the rationalizers!   Cathy Allen   (9/6/2009 11:03 p.m.)
    • Exaggerations & contradictions   kathleen (elder)   (9/7/2009 7:31 a.m.)
      • John is worse than Fanny IMHO   Anselm   (9/7/2009 9:51 a.m.)
        • John's promise   Carol J.   (9/7/2009 11:40 a.m.)
          • But did it prompt him to act?   Barb JA   (9/7/2009 12:09 p.m.)
            • True   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 12:58 p.m.)
        • Hear, hear!   Barb JA   (9/7/2009 10:49 a.m.)
          • Awesome comparison!   CarolTS   (9/7/2009 1:30 p.m.)
  • However it came about . . .   Mary Anne   (9/6/2009 5:51 p.m.)
  • John's change of heart   Carol J.   (9/6/2009 4:54 p.m.)
    • And the truth was told when Mrs Dashwood was about to leave...   janelt   (9/7/2009 11:31 p.m.)
      • The Promise   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 11:24 a.m.)
        • Given John Dashwood's   nan duval   (9/8/2009 8:41 p.m.)
          • ROFL!!! (NFM)   janelt   (9/8/2009 9:48 p.m.)
          • That's a good one too! nfm   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 9:26 p.m.)
    • I agree   Nina RG   (9/7/2009 8:02 a.m.)
  • John's sensibility and Fanny's sense...   janelt   (9/6/2009 4:06 p.m.)
• Looking for Margaret, the 'other' sister   Barbara   (9/6/2009 12:50 p.m.)
  • Margaret   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 2:30 p.m.)
  • a 27 -year old   Gina Marie   (9/7/2009 2:00 p.m.)
    • She was...   Barbara   (9/7/2009 2:08 p.m.)
  • Not yet, no.   Anselm   (9/7/2009 10:18 a.m.)
  • Another romantic   Aruna   (9/6/2009 5:04 p.m.)
    • It does tip the balance   Barbara   (9/6/2009 5:29 p.m.)
  • The ages of the Dashwood parents   Carol J.   (9/6/2009 4:29 p.m.)
  • I had never considered   CarolTS   (9/6/2009 1:14 p.m.)
    • I don't think Margaret is..   Reeba   (9/6/2009 1:25 p.m.)
• "Five hundred a year"   Elizabeth K   (9/6/2009 12:46 p.m.)
  • All about comparisons   Elizabeth K   (9/6/2009 1:16 p.m.)
  • Was Barton Cottage offered rent free?   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 1:11 p.m.)
    • Servants.   Rachel G   (9/7/2009 1:22 p.m.)
    • The servants are an interesting factor   Barbara   (9/6/2009 5:37 p.m.)
      • Cost of servants   Gina Marie   (9/7/2009 1:48 p.m.)
      • "Wealth is comparative"   Elizabeth K   (9/7/2009 11:14 a.m.)
        • The loss of the family home   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 4:01 a.m.)
          • Reminder about copying from previous posts   Barbara   (9/8/2009 10:55 a.m.)
            • Emphasizing my point   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 1:52 p.m.)
              • Please follow me to the Help board   Myretta   (9/8/2009 2:20 p.m.)
          • One Point (Relatives)   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 10:39 a.m.)
            • It is all turning into "what if's"   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 1:48 p.m.)
              • :) nfm   BarbaraB   (9/8/2009 3:11 p.m.)
        • Purchasing Power vs Lifestyle   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 12:39 p.m.)
        • Also, remember that the Dashwoods, unlike us   Divya   (9/7/2009 11:53 a.m.)
          • "Electronic Servants"   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 12:45 p.m.)
        • They are feeding (& clothing) 7 people, however   kathleen (elder)   (9/7/2009 11:25 a.m.)
          • Transport   Amymarie   (9/7/2009 5:03 p.m.)
            • They didn't have horses or a carriage   kathleen (elder)   (9/7/2009 5:24 p.m.)
  • But wasn't part of the money   CarolTS   (9/6/2009 1:08 p.m.)
    • and that is the material point   LouAnn   (9/6/2009 1:32 p.m.)
      • Exactly!   CarolTS   (9/7/2009 1:33 a.m.)
  • They do have to pay rent   Barbara   (9/6/2009 1:08 p.m.)
    • Sir John and The Rent   Caroline   (9/7/2009 10:34 p.m.)
      • No invitation required   Robbin   (9/8/2009 11:39 a.m.)
      • That's very interesting indeed. Thank you.   Reeba   (9/8/2009 6:24 a.m.)
      • Interesting   Elizabeth K   (9/8/2009 4:04 a.m.)
    • I repeated your main points -- sorry!   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 1:19 p.m.)
• What a young man ought to be   Robbin   (9/6/2009 12:17 p.m.)
  • Marianne's wishes   Outi   (9/6/2009 2:52 p.m.)
    • Marianne and the perfect man   Carol J.   (9/6/2009 4:14 p.m.)
  • Edward's appeal   Elizabeth K   (9/6/2009 1:01 p.m.)
  • Marianne: too romantic!   Lex   (9/6/2009 12:42 p.m.)
• Some geography   Myretta   (9/6/2009 11:24 a.m.)
  • VERY interesting -- I LOVE maps; thanks, Myretta. (nfm)   Cathy Allen   (9/6/2009 10:34 p.m.)
  • How long would the trip   Outi   (9/6/2009 2:57 p.m.)
    • It's quite a long journey.   Rachel G   (9/6/2009 5:16 p.m.)
      • I think this is about right   Myretta   (9/6/2009 5:42 p.m.)
        • Thank you for you both!   Outi   (9/7/2009 2:26 p.m.)
  • Wonderful Visual   BarbaraB   (9/6/2009 2:00 p.m.)
  • Hence sending the furniture   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 11:45 a.m.)
• Chapter 1: The Dashwood Sisters   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 7:04 a.m.)
  • Elinor teases Marianne   nan duval   (9/8/2009 8:34 p.m.)
    • Such funnies!   Barb JA   (9/9/2009 7:42 a.m.)
      • Elinor is more observant?   Erica M.   (9/10/2009 9:52 p.m.)
        • Absolutely   Barb JA   (9/11/2009 8:14 a.m.)
  • As a first time S&S reader,   Cathy Allen   (9/6/2009 2:02 p.m.)
  • Elinor and Marianne: not so very different   Elizabeth K   (9/6/2009 12:51 p.m.)
    • Sense Conquers All   RobinJ   (9/7/2009 7:22 p.m.)
      • Restraint vs reserve   Heather Leigh   (9/8/2009 2:11 a.m.)
        • I can't help to notice   SofiaL   (9/8/2009 12:18 p.m.)
      • I agree !   Lex   (9/8/2009 12:35 a.m.)
      • New to Pemberley?   LaurieC   (9/7/2009 8:08 p.m.)
    • Vivacious and fun-loving don't really suit Marianne   Barbara   (9/6/2009 10:28 p.m.)
      • Marianne's narrow mind   Leah Mei   (9/8/2009 2:04 p.m.)
      • Different opinions/different definitions   Elizabeth K   (9/7/2009 8:05 a.m.)
        • The adjectives don't suit her   Barbara   (9/7/2009 11:54 a.m.)
          • Each to his/her own. :-) nfm   Elizabeth K   (9/7/2009 1:20 p.m.)
            • Not really   Barbara   (9/7/2009 1:40 p.m.)
        • Fun loving.   Reeba   (9/7/2009 10:29 a.m.)
          • I didn't say that Elinor wasn't! :-) nfm   Elizabeth K   (9/7/2009 11:06 a.m.)
            • You said...   Reeba   (9/7/2009 11:16 a.m.)
    • Sense or sensibility   Elbč   (9/6/2009 2:32 p.m.)
      • Great Post, Elbe (Elinor's Control)   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 12:29 a.m.)
        • Have   Robbin   (9/7/2009 4:50 p.m.)
          • Nope, just posing a question and watching for it nfm   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 6:50 p.m.)
        • Thanks Barbara, I will be keeping an eye out for those too   Elbč   (9/7/2009 1:12 a.m.)
  • Another underline - Sensible Marianne   Barb JA   (9/6/2009 12:09 p.m.)
    • Of sensibility and suchlike   Anselm   (9/8/2009 12:12 p.m.)
      • Dictionaries (long)   Barb JA   (9/11/2009 10:03 a.m.)
      • Very interesting   Rachel G   (9/8/2009 5:28 p.m.)
    • Confused.   Lex   (9/6/2009 12:32 p.m.)
      • Now I understand.   Lex   (9/8/2009 12:26 a.m.)
      • Sense and Sensibility   Caroline   (9/7/2009 11:33 p.m.)
        • You make some very good points   Elbč   (9/8/2009 4:08 a.m.)
      • Sensibility   BarbaraB   (9/6/2009 1:50 p.m.)
        • Sensible?   Carol J.   (9/6/2009 3:57 p.m.)
          • And yet   Barb JA   (9/6/2009 8:21 p.m.)
            • The title   CarolTS   (9/7/2009 1:16 a.m.)
              • To clarify   Barb JA   (9/7/2009 6:11 a.m.)
            • Marriane's sense   Elbč   (9/6/2009 10:09 p.m.)
              • Perhaps JA didn't place sense at the apex of behaviour   Tom P2   (9/7/2009 5:28 a.m.)
            • Have I been looking at this all wrong?   Carol J.   (9/6/2009 9:45 p.m.)
      • I understand it a little differently   Outi   (9/6/2009 1:18 p.m.)
  • Ch 3   Jenny H   (9/6/2009 8:52 a.m.)
  • Marianne   Lex   (9/6/2009 7:21 a.m.)
• Admiration on Elinor's strong character.   Lex   (9/6/2009 6:53 a.m.)
  • Absolutely   Elizabeth K   (9/6/2009 1:19 p.m.)
  • Location   Aruna   (9/6/2009 10:37 a.m.)
  • Lovely Elinor   Nina RG   (9/6/2009 8:26 a.m.)
    • Applying Chemistry   Lex   (9/6/2009 12:18 p.m.)
  • Admirable Elinor   Rachel G   (9/6/2009 7:27 a.m.)
    • Yes, yes.   Lex   (9/6/2009 7:34 a.m.)
  • A very admirable character.   Reeba   (9/6/2009 7:25 a.m.)
    • Exactly!   Lex   (9/6/2009 7:27 a.m.)
  • I do admire her   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 7:06 a.m.)
• Chapter 1: We meet the Dashwoods, part 2   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 12:41 p.m.)
  • Salubrious Effects of Marriage - or Not   Robin Jill   (9/6/2009 12:20 p.m.)
  • the childhoods of the two sets of Dashwoods   LouAnn   (9/5/2009 3:36 p.m.)
    • Although   Anselm   (9/5/2009 5:35 p.m.)
      • had not thought of that   LouAnn   (9/6/2009 1:28 p.m.)
      • An example of this   Carol J.   (9/5/2009 9:47 p.m.)
  • John Dashwood and his stepmother   Heather Leigh   (9/5/2009 2:56 p.m.)
    • If he had lived with them...   Martina C   (9/8/2009 9:58 a.m.)
    • You make an excellent point here!   Outi   (9/6/2009 3:12 p.m.)
    • I agree   Crystal M   (9/5/2009 6:14 p.m.)
  • The Dashwood children   Elbč   (9/5/2009 1:07 p.m.)
    • The Dashwoods lived at Stanhill   Divya   (9/5/2009 1:23 p.m.)
      • Yes, not only   nan duval   (9/5/2009 11:29 p.m.)
        • Hateful Fanny   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 5:28 a.m.)
          • I read less into that passage   Tom P2   (9/6/2009 10:32 p.m.)
            • You may be right   kathleen (elder)   (9/7/2009 7:07 a.m.)
      • Yes, it was Stanhill   Nina RG   (9/5/2009 1:59 p.m.)
      • Pardon typo - "too fine" - NFM   Divya   (9/5/2009 1:25 p.m.)
• Introducing Fanny & the novel's title theme.   Rachel G   (9/5/2009 9:20 a.m.)
  • Another portrayal of Fanny's selfish character.   Lex   (9/6/2009 6:30 a.m.)
    • Too much is never enough   nan duval   (9/6/2009 9:31 a.m.)
  • blaming Fanny for John's behavior   Heather Leigh   (9/5/2009 11:52 p.m.)
    • The Spouse Affect   Robbin   (9/7/2009 4:43 p.m.)
      • Well Said nfm   BarbaraB   (9/7/2009 6:49 p.m.)
    • Predisposed   BarbaraB   (9/6/2009 1:17 p.m.)
    • She was a strong caricature of himself...   Reeba   (9/6/2009 4:41 a.m.)
      • Cunning Fanny   Barb JA   (9/6/2009 11:29 a.m.)
        • Wouldn't it be indecorous   Reeba   (9/6/2009 12:39 p.m.)
          • LOL! Now I see. : ) nfm   Barb JA   (9/6/2009 3:24 p.m.)
        • Fanny Dashwood -- amateur actuary :-)   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 11:58 a.m.)
          • Thank you   Barb JA   (9/7/2009 9:16 a.m.)
          • Rumored death of annuity recipient...   nan duval   (9/6/2009 1:24 p.m.)
            • Miser Dance   Barb JA   (9/6/2009 4:08 p.m.)
  • The introduction of the characters   Carol J.   (9/5/2009 10:16 p.m.)
  • Bad Relations   Robbin   (9/5/2009 10:44 a.m.)
    • Mrs. Dashwood might   nan duval   (9/5/2009 8:03 p.m.)
      • S&S2 Bias   Robbin   (9/9/2009 11:07 a.m.)
      • Another literary example of Fanny-style bargaining   Divya   (9/5/2009 8:45 p.m.)
        • Wow!!!   Anselm   (9/6/2009 9:16 a.m.)
        • Even better! nfm   nan duval   (9/5/2009 10:24 p.m.)
        • logic from King Lear   Barbara   (9/5/2009 9:05 p.m.)
    • In-law problems   Barbara   (9/5/2009 11:53 a.m.)
      • Something wicked this way comes   Robbin   (9/9/2009 1:07 p.m.)
• Chapter 1: We meet the Dashwoods, part 1   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 6:43 a.m.)
  • The family tree   Carol J.   (9/5/2009 9:27 p.m.)
    • That's how I read it, too   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 9:29 p.m.)
      • And Mr. Dashwood's father...   Barbara   (9/5/2009 9:36 p.m.)
        • Maybe Mr. Dashwood's grand-father was called Henry   Graciela   (9/6/2009 11:33 p.m.)
          • We don't know that he was the only grandson   Barbara   (9/7/2009 11:14 a.m.)
• Many cunning tricks and a great deal of noise   Barbara   (9/5/2009 2:18 a.m.)
  • Baby Harry   BarbaraB   (9/5/2009 12:46 p.m.)
    • The charm might be dose dependent.   nan duval   (9/5/2009 7:50 p.m.)
      • Brilliant! Never thought I'd see "dose-dependence"   Divya   (9/5/2009 8:48 p.m.)
        • "Occasional" visits   Barbara   (9/5/2009 9:10 p.m.)
      • LOL! Bet You're Right nfm   BarbaraB   (9/5/2009 8:20 p.m.)
  • "Dripping with Irony"   Angela C   (9/5/2009 8:58 a.m.)
  • My thoughts about this description   Reeba   (9/5/2009 8:45 a.m.)
    • I think the older Mr Dashwood **might** have liked Harry   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 11:42 a.m.)
      • 'Not to be unkind'...   Reeba   (9/5/2009 12:31 p.m.)
        • Irony in outcome, perhaps, but not in intent   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 12:45 p.m.)
  • I thought it was interesting   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 4:56 a.m.)
• Inheriting Norland   Barbara   (9/5/2009 1:56 a.m.)
  • Norland and Dashwood   LouAnn   (9/9/2009 10:45 a.m.)
  • Thank you for the LT links. Great info I didn't know before. NFM   janelt   (9/7/2009 11:16 p.m.)
  • Other possible considerations   Adrian   (9/7/2009 12:49 p.m.)
  • Wondering about inflation.   nan duval   (9/5/2009 7:43 p.m.)
    • Interesting idea   Barbara   (9/5/2009 8:50 p.m.)
      • '...but I will get [The Incomes] altered if I can...'   Tom P2   (9/5/2009 11:23 p.m.)
  • What outweighs what; the Dashwood dynasty   Tom P2   (9/5/2009 5:35 p.m.)
  • The Inheritance Issue   BarbaraB   (9/5/2009 3:39 p.m.)
  • Affection for the three girls   Barb JA   (9/5/2009 8:42 a.m.)
    • I think it is ...   Reeba   (9/5/2009 8:53 a.m.)
      • PS: Especially as   Reeba   (9/5/2009 9:06 a.m.)
        • Irony   Barb JA   (9/5/2009 10:37 a.m.)
          • He thought he was being kind   Barbara   (9/5/2009 11:27 a.m.)
            • Henry Dashwood should have had some income   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 11:47 a.m.)
              • That...that....woman!   Anselm   (9/6/2009 9:04 a.m.)
                • Do we know John Dashwood's total annual income?   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 9:19 a.m.)
                  • It must be considerable...   Reeba   (9/6/2009 9:51 a.m.)
                    • If that's the case, then shouldn't Henry Dashwood's   kathleen (elder)   (9/6/2009 10:00 a.m.)
                      • That would be too much, I think...   Reeba   (9/6/2009 10:23 a.m.)
              • The Ł7000, Stanhill, and horses   Tom P2   (9/5/2009 5:17 p.m.)
              • I agree that he thought...   Reeba   (9/5/2009 12:22 p.m.)
  • I think...   Nina RG   (9/5/2009 4:22 a.m.)
    • Good point. And yet...   MarianneR   (9/5/2009 5:03 a.m.)
      • Henry Dashwood's income   Nina RG   (9/5/2009 7:13 a.m.)
        • Trust fund for his wife and daughters   Glenn   (9/5/2009 11:52 a.m.)
          • But *he* didn't have Ł4000 a year   Barbara   (9/5/2009 12:01 p.m.)
            • Then Henry inherited practically nothing   Glenn   (9/5/2009 12:38 p.m.)
              • Don't see him as Scrooge   CarolTS   (9/5/2009 2:57 p.m.)
                • The 'A' Word   BarbaraB   (9/5/2009 9:10 p.m.)
                • Not grandchildren   Barbara   (9/5/2009 5:13 p.m.)
              • Not 18 years, only 10   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 12:43 p.m.)
        • Just what the old uncle wanted to avoid   Barbara   (9/5/2009 11:11 a.m.)
          • I agree   Nina RG   (9/5/2009 11:17 a.m.)
• Welcome!   Barbara   (9/5/2009 12:58 a.m.)
  • Running late, but I'm here!   JoAnn   (9/10/2009 2:30 p.m.)
  • Thank you!   Neus   (9/7/2009 4:43 a.m.)
  • Thankyou and hello [nfm]   Tarn   (9/6/2009 5:51 p.m.)
  • Hello and Thank you   Leah Noel   (9/6/2009 12:07 p.m.)
  • Thank you...   Moni   (9/6/2009 7:57 a.m.)
  • Thank you!   Lex   (9/6/2009 6:01 a.m.)
  • I'm excited.   Jenny H   (9/6/2009 4:20 a.m.)
  • Will try to keep up   Divya   (9/5/2009 5:23 p.m.)
  • Thanks. Looking forward to this.   RobinJ   (9/5/2009 4:37 p.m.)
    • Pleased to meet you, Robin J -- are you new?   kathleen (elder)   (9/5/2009 5:13 p.m.)
  • Thanks. It's been 9 years...   Glenn   (9/5/2009 2:12 p.m.)
  • Thank you   Barb JA   (9/5/2009 12:48 p.m.)
  • Joining In: I am all anticipation! - nfm   Kathryn Ann   (9/5/2009 11:42 a.m.)
  • Thank you, Barbara   nan duval   (9/5/2009 11:37 a.m.)
  • Greetings all and   Robbin   (9/5/2009 10:43 a.m.)
  • Thanks, Barbara   Elizabeth K   (9/5/2009 10:14 a.m.)
  • Thanks!   Aruna   (9/5/2009 9:46 a.m.)
  • Thanks. Looking forward to it. nfm   Reeba   (9/5/2009 8:07 a.m.)
  • Thanks Barbara! Looking forward and hoping to keep up! - nfm   Elbč   (9/5/2009 8:07 a.m.)
  • Thanks, glad to be here nfm   BarbaraB   (9/5/2009 1:21 a.m.)

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