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I disagree; John was a waffler Written by Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 8:20 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, True, and I would add that..., penned by Julianne E.

I think that John is selfish. But I also think that he has a social conscience. I think he agrees with his wife because she is convincing and because he cares a great deal for her.

On this most recent reading, one thing struck me which I had never noticed before.

In Ch 5 it says:
Mr. John Dashwood told his mother again and again how exceedingly sorry he was that she had taken an house at such a distance from Norland as to prevent his being of any service to her in removing her furniture. He really felt conscientiously vexed on the occasion; for the very exertion to which he had limited the performance of his promise to his father was by this arrangement rendered impracticable. -- The furniture was all sent round by water.

You will say that this does not save him. He is still a mighty pig. How dare he think he can be generous by offering Mrs. Dashwood's own servants as a means to move her family to some close-by cottage. But it struck me that he really wishes to be seen as generous. He really has some intention of being generous. But really he has too small hearted to succeed.

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John and his step-mother Barbara (9/15/2006 11:58 p.m.)

John Dashwood grew up lonely IMO. Reeba (9/16/2006 4:03 p.m.)
- I agree about her likely remoteness from John Tom P2 (9/17/2006 8:06 a.m.)
  - Or else smothered him? Tina T (9/17/2006 10:07 a.m.)
    - Or,there is a possibilty that JulieW (9/17/2006 11:15 a.m.)
      - Would a boy go away to school at 7 or 8? -nfm Mary Ellen (9/17/2006 11:28 p.m.)
        
        "One's heart aches for a dejected mind of eight years old&qu JulieW (9/18/2006 9:24 a.m.)
Now that you point it out… Robbin (9/16/2006 3:32 p.m.)
This situation intrigues me... Moni (9/16/2006 12:59 p.m.)
- Think like a father-in-law Tracy W (9/17/2006 1:27 a.m.)
  - But what was his income? Tina T (9/17/2006 2:50 a.m.)
    - We are told in chapter 1 Tracy W (9/17/2006 5:02 p.m.)
      - Not a half share Barbara (9/17/2006 5:21 p.m.)
    - That's the impression I gather too,Tina JulieW (9/17/2006 8:35 a.m.)
      - So in the matter of...   Moni (9/17/2006 10:37 a.m.)
        
        I think he did have a choice,Moni   JulieW (9/17/2006 10:51 a.m.)
        
        I see. Thanks Julie;-) (nfm)   Moni (9/17/2006 11:12 a.m.)
But what about the *legal inheritor*. I'm confused. Reeba (9/16/2006 9:10 a.m.)
- "Strict settlement" Maisy (9/16/2006 12:09 p.m.)
  - CH 1 says .... Reeba (9/16/2006 12:21 p.m.)
    - Let me explain........;-) JulieW (9/17/2006 8:16 a.m.)
      - A Big Help, Indeed but...   BarbaraB (9/17/2006 9:42 a.m.)
        
        I'm sure he could have been more generous   JulieW (9/17/2006 10:45 a.m.)
        
        Thanks, Julie :) nfm   BarbaraB (9/17/2006 11:09 p.m.)
      - Yes, it does. Thank you Julie :) nfm Reeba (9/17/2006 9:29 a.m.)
        
        My pleasure! nfm. JulieW (9/17/2006 9:36 a.m.)
    - May be similar to the present situation Barbara (9/16/2006 1:40 p.m.)
      - This explanation... Reeba (9/16/2006 1:47 p.m.)
Mr. Dashwood's faith in John Yvonne (9/16/2006 3:00 a.m.)
- I'm sure that Anne L (9/17/2006 11:49 a.m.)
- On Mrs Dashwood and John's relationship. Mandy N (9/16/2006 7:13 a.m.)
  - "Your father thought only of them." Maisy (9/17/2006 9:39 a.m.)
  - Partly his wife's fault? Kim E (9/16/2006 8:40 a.m.)
    - But the 14 years before that? Barbara (9/16/2006 11:30 a.m.)
      - I think you hit the nail on the head... Elizabeth Sycamore (9/16/2006 2:19 p.m.)
    - True, and I would add that... Julianne E. (9/16/2006 9:33 a.m.)
      - I disagree; John was a waffler Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 8:20 p.m.)
        
        Yes, a mighty pig… Robbin (9/19/2006 12:44 a.m.)
      - Yes and it says... Moni (9/16/2006 1:09 p.m.)
      - John and Fanny and Goneril and Regan Barbara (9/16/2006 11:57 a.m.)
        
        Thank you - had not thought of this parallel (nfm) Tracy W (9/17/2006 1:33 a.m.)
      - Maybe John took after his grandfather, who was...   Reeba (9/16/2006 9:52 a.m.)
        
        Not his grandfather   Barbara (9/16/2006 10:19 a.m.)
        
        The Uncle   BarbaraB (9/16/2006 12:18 p.m.)
        
        Protecting Norland   Maisy (9/16/2006 12:36 p.m.)
        
        A reasonable answer...   BarbaraB (9/16/2006 1:20 p.m.)
        
        I still think a larger amount settled...   Reeba (9/17/2006 3:56 a.m.)
        
        It does seem very unfair, doesn't it? -nfm   Maisy (9/16/2006 3:30 p.m.)
        
        I'm sure JA considered it unfair.   Mandy N (9/16/2006 4:26 p.m.)
        
        In addition   Pennie (9/17/2006 11:02 p.m.)
        
        Not per annum!   Barbara (9/16/2006 4:46 p.m.)
        
        Well,   Mandy N (9/17/2006 1:25 a.m.)
        
        Chawton   Frances R (9/17/2006 2:11 a.m.)

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