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Group read of Jane Austen's Sense and Sensibility Group Read begins September 16

I just wanted to say... Elizabeth Sycamore (10/28/2006 12:29 a.m.)

S&S GR BarbaraB (10/28/2006 1:28 p.m.)
- Future discussions Barbara (10/28/2006 1:42 p.m.)
I will savour the archive as I am behind Jan (10/28/2006 11:52 a.m.)
- Thank YOU Barbara (10/28/2006 1:43 p.m.)
- What poem? Elizabeth Sycamore (10/28/2006 12:54 p.m.)
  - This one Jan (10/28/2006 3:03 p.m.)
as usual teri-mc (10/28/2006 11:37 a.m.)
A pleasure indeed, Mandy N (10/28/2006 9:21 a.m.)
- I love pictures! Barbara (10/28/2006 1:46 p.m.)
  - Now it feels... Reeba (10/28/2006 5:59 p.m.)
  - aHH! The 4 R:s Ann2 (10/28/2006 5:16 p.m.)
  - It wasn't hard... Lynn (10/28/2006 4:36 p.m.)
  - *sigh* Mary Anne (10/28/2006 4:34 p.m.)
  - Our charming Colonel- lovely. :) (nfm). Mandy N (10/28/2006 2:01 p.m.)
As always, it has been... Reeba (10/28/2006 6:01 a.m.)
S&S GR Emmeline (10/28/2006 5:47 a.m.)
Ditto... Robbin (10/28/2006 4:05 a.m.)
Hear, hear! Melissa G (10/28/2006 3:58 a.m.)

Sister Relationships Round-up (long) Robbin (10/27/2006 12:36 p.m.)

Thanks & Relative age & Parents Ann2 (10/28/2006 9:56 a.m.)
- Second child and Robert Robbin (10/28/2006 11:56 a.m.)
Thank you, Robbin. Reeba (10/28/2006 6:03 a.m.)
- Quite so. Mandy N (10/28/2006 7:58 a.m.)
  - Thanks Reeba and Mandy N... Robbin (10/28/2006 10:46 a.m.)
Sisters BarbaraB (10/28/2006 12:01 a.m.)
- Thank you! I am so glad you enjoyed! nfm ;D Robbin (10/28/2006 4:00 a.m.)

Focus: Romanticism ; Emotion & Cleveland. Mandy N (10/26/2006 5:12 p.m.)

Thank you, Mandy :) Reeba (10/27/2006 12:32 p.m.)
- Agree BarbaraB (10/28/2006 12:06 a.m.)
Very interesting--thanks so much! ;D nfm Robbin (10/26/2006 11:56 p.m.)

Weddings (spoilers if you haven't finished the book!) Jan (10/26/2006 2:24 p.m.)

Oh, it's lovely. Lynn (10/28/2006 4:33 p.m.)
Pictures... BarbaraB (10/28/2006 12:15 a.m.)
It lacks only . . . Mary Anne (10/27/2006 8:28 a.m.)
- Wedding picture...in the carriage. Mandy N (10/28/2006 5:11 a.m.)
Thank you, Jan. Beautiful. nfm Reeba (10/27/2006 2:38 a.m.)
It is beautiful--thank you for sharing. ;D nfm Robbin (10/26/2006 11:51 p.m.)
So lovely ! Mandy N (10/26/2006 5:42 p.m.)
How pretty! -nfm Maisy (10/26/2006 2:43 p.m.)
Gorgeous Amy Marie (10/26/2006 2:31 p.m.)
- Yes! It was early September this year and Jan (10/28/2006 12:04 p.m.)

Dashwood Sisters (Chapter 42 to 50) Long Robbin (10/26/2006 9:56 a.m.)

On their accomplishments... Mandy N (10/27/2006 2:18 p.m.)
- Nice… Robbin (10/27/2006 10:50 p.m.)
Some things that stood out for me: Heidi M. (10/26/2006 1:04 p.m.)
- Thanks... Robbin (10/27/2006 10:39 p.m.)

Steele Sisters (Chapter 42 to 50) Robbin (10/26/2006 3:25 a.m.)

A final smack! for Lucy Mary Anne (10/27/2006 8:39 a.m.)
- Lucy does show her true colors at the end... Robbin (10/27/2006 10:33 p.m.)
Lucy as an opposite of Marianne Tracy W (10/27/2006 7:25 a.m.)
- Good point about Lucy... Robbin (10/27/2006 10:26 p.m.)
- Lucy and Robert James S. (10/27/2006 11:31 a.m.)
  - Hmmm - think Robert's character a bit different Tracy W (10/29/2006 5:03 a.m.)
  - And Others James S. (10/27/2006 5:02 p.m.)

Charming Col Brandon : my focus - one of 8} Reeba (10/25/2006 4:34 p.m.)

Charming and romantic. Mandy N (10/27/2006 12:10 p.m.)
I agree with you... Robbin (10/25/2006 10:22 p.m.)

An't? Kara M (10/25/2006 12:25 p.m.)

Change to Pemberley Boards The Pemberley Committee (10/25/2006 7:41 a.m.)

good idéa *nfm Therése (10/25/2006 3:54 p.m.)
Sounds like fun! Good idea. (nfm) Elizabeth Sycamore (10/25/2006 3:44 p.m.)

How does Willoughby get away with it? (long) Delories (10/24/2006 6:16 a.m.)

Does W know Susan R (10/25/2006 12:24 a.m.)
- Welcome! Barbara (10/25/2006 1:11 a.m.)
one way he does it LouAnn (10/24/2006 12:45 p.m.)
- How Mrs Smith learned of it Tom P2 (10/24/2006 6:08 p.m.)
  - Blaming the colonel Barbara (10/26/2006 11:48 a.m.)
    - Distant relation's interest Tom P2 (10/26/2006 4:20 p.m.)
  - Thank you LouAnn (10/25/2006 8:19 p.m.)
- V. good point about Eliza Delories (10/24/2006 4:51 p.m.)
How does W. get away with it? Timing is all Delories (10/24/2006 9:10 a.m.)
- Willoughby's attitude? Ann2 (10/25/2006 4:04 p.m.)
  - Leaning against the mantlepiece Delories (10/26/2006 3:29 a.m.)
    - Not arguing, just... Ann2 (10/26/2006 7:00 a.m.)
- Elinor besieged. Mandy N (10/24/2006 3:39 p.m.)
  - Also on Elinor's mind Barbara (10/24/2006 4:10 p.m.)
    - Willoughby—Less Violent & Quick Robbin (10/24/2006 4:57 p.m.)
      - 10 p.m. at the latest Barbara (10/25/2006 1:31 a.m.)
        
        Good points, I agree! nfm ;D Robbin (10/25/2006 5:56 a.m.)
- Spot on! Rose G (10/24/2006 11:06 a.m.)
Well..... Amy Marie (10/24/2006 8:00 a.m.)
- I can… Robbin (10/24/2006 9:19 a.m.)
  - Influencing Marianne Maisy (10/25/2006 7:40 a.m.)
    - Yes but Amy Marie (10/25/2006 9:05 a.m.)
- Oh, of course Marianne is responsible for her actions Delories (10/24/2006 8:47 a.m.)
  - I agree Delories, well put! nfm ;D Robbin (10/24/2006 9:23 a.m.)

Willoughby’s confession… Robbin (10/23/2006 11:26 a.m.)

Another grrrrrr moment Mary Anne (10/25/2006 8:18 a.m.)
- It also underscores... Maisy (10/25/2006 8:31 a.m.)
  - Oh, good one, Maisy! Delories (10/26/2006 3:34 a.m.)
"A pint of porter ... at Marlborough was enough to overset m Tom P2 (10/23/2006 5:41 p.m.)
- Definitely an irony. Reeba (10/24/2006 6:21 a.m.)
- I read it differently Amanda McG (10/23/2006 6:56 p.m.)
  - ' had I really loved' Mandy N (10/24/2006 5:05 a.m.)
    - Quite the suspenseful scene Mary Anne (10/24/2006 8:07 a.m.)
    - Mr. Palmer away from Cleveland Maisy (10/24/2006 7:01 a.m.)
      - Good point! Delories (10/24/2006 9:14 a.m.)
- I never thought of that... Robbin (10/23/2006 6:17 p.m.)
- I agree - it's like saying... Line (10/23/2006 6:01 p.m.)
Ah, you beat me to it! Heidi M. (10/23/2006 12:07 p.m.)
- "It was necessary to my own pride. " Reeba (10/24/2006 6:19 a.m.)
- just charming Mandy D (10/23/2006 5:31 p.m.)
- Titanium backbone (good phrase, btw!) and sleep deprivation Tom P2 (10/23/2006 5:26 p.m.)
- Correction: Heidi M. (10/23/2006 1:28 p.m.)

Focus wrap-up: Fun for Elinor: the long drought and the farce Tom P2 (10/22/2006 7:28 p.m.)

Thomas's intelligence seemed over. LOL!! Reeba (10/23/2006 8:27 a.m.)

When Edward and Lucy first got engaged.... Amy Marie (10/22/2006 1:11 p.m.)

Cunning and manipulative Maisy (10/25/2006 8:04 a.m.)
It would not surprise me... Barbara (10/22/2006 5:25 p.m.)
- Interesting point! Line (10/23/2006 8:25 a.m.)
- I think by the time... Reeba (10/22/2006 5:33 p.m.)
Verdict on Lucy James S. (10/22/2006 4:15 p.m.)
- Clarification James S. (10/22/2006 4:26 p.m.)
  - Lucy & Robt Ferrars as "eruptions from the id" Delories (10/23/2006 6:02 a.m.)
I think that she must have been... Reeba (10/22/2006 1:35 p.m.)
- But Nancy has the DOCTOR! :-P NFM Heidi M. (10/23/2006 12:16 p.m.)
  - A note on Nancy Steele. Mandy N (10/24/2006 5:17 a.m.)
    - Poor Miss Steele :( nfm Kara M (10/25/2006 12:32 p.m.)
    - I always considered.... Heidi M. (10/24/2006 11:42 a.m.)
      - Nancy Amy Marie (10/24/2006 1:10 p.m.)
- Lucy and blame Mary Anne (10/22/2006 5:42 p.m.)
  - "the persecution of Lucy's friendship," Reeba (10/23/2006 3:58 a.m.)
    - Elinor is persecuted by Lucy Robbin (10/23/2006 9:53 a.m.)
      - Additionally... Robbin (10/24/2006 11:10 a.m.)
        
        Of course Lucy is... Reeba (10/24/2006 4:21 p.m.)
    - Persecution Mary Anne (10/23/2006 8:23 a.m.)
      - JA used such... Reeba (10/23/2006 8:30 a.m.)
        
        Of course Mary Anne (10/23/2006 8:10 p.m.)

An idle thought :) Reeba (10/22/2006 9:17 a.m.)

"Trust me" ? Tom P2 (10/22/2006 5:58 p.m.)

Why does Colonel Brandon... Reeba (10/22/2006 9:13 a.m.)

I think... Mandy N (10/22/2006 11:18 a.m.)
- I agree Barbara (10/22/2006 5:07 p.m.)

Col. Brandon's Offer BarbaraB (10/21/2006 10:04 p.m.)

Question James S. (10/22/2006 5:02 p.m.)
- Politic cruelty Louise H (10/23/2006 1:30 p.m.)
- That was the..way she wrote. Reeba (10/22/2006 5:39 p.m.)
  - Oxymorons BarbaraB (10/22/2006 6:53 p.m.)
    - oops :-/ Reeba (10/23/2006 3:51 a.m.)
An honourable intention... Mandy N (10/22/2006 7:40 a.m.)
- I thought that he told Elinor deliberately Pennie (10/26/2006 3:34 a.m.)
  - Mrs Jennings & Elinor at cross-purposes. Mandy N (10/26/2006 5:53 a.m.)
    - Why does Col. Brandon make such a point... Maisy (10/26/2006 8:28 a.m.)
It's just S&S2 where Colonel Brandon has never met Edward Tom P2 (10/22/2006 1:51 a.m.)
- Aah, Yes.... BarbaraB (10/22/2006 9:55 a.m.)

Public vs. Private Education Barbara (10/21/2006 12:18 p.m.)

Disciplne Maisy (10/21/2006 2:51 p.m.)
- I cannot think of British regency upperclass men ... Tracy W (10/23/2006 5:35 p.m.)
  - Not what I meant Maisy (10/28/2006 9:56 a.m.)
- Private versus Public Education Robbin (10/21/2006 3:50 p.m.)
  - Spot on Lucy! Ann2 (10/28/2006 10:09 a.m.)

Dawlish Jan (10/20/2006 1:47 p.m.)

Finally had a chance to check this out BarbaraB (10/24/2006 5:31 p.m.)
Quite a treasure! Thanks, Jan nfm Ann2 (10/23/2006 5:04 p.m.)
Lovely Devon and JA resource... Mandy N (10/21/2006 5:42 a.m.)
Absolutely gorgeous pictures and paintings… Robbin (10/20/2006 10:29 p.m.)
Loverly! Heidi M. (10/20/2006 4:55 p.m.)
Oh Jan... Elizabeth Sycamore (10/20/2006 3:25 p.m.)
I understand now why... Reeba (10/20/2006 3:12 p.m.)
Wonderful, Jan! Thank you! -nfm Maisy (10/20/2006 2:12 p.m.)

Focus: Romanticism; Picturesque cottages. Mandy N (10/20/2006 5:32 a.m.)

Many thanks to all. Mandy N (10/26/2006 2:09 p.m.)
Wonderful---thanks nfm BarbaraB (10/22/2006 2:15 p.m.)
Your source? Myretta (10/22/2006 9:21 a.m.)
- References ; Mandy N (10/22/2006 10:29 a.m.)
The must of a cottage Heidi M. (10/20/2006 5:03 p.m.)
- Yes, :D Reeba (10/22/2006 2:53 p.m.)
- LOL, Heidi BarbaraB (10/22/2006 2:14 p.m.)
  - I *am* excessively fond of him! NFM Heidi M. (10/24/2006 7:46 p.m.)
Oh! Thank you for those images - delightful! and Jan (10/20/2006 3:11 p.m.)
Mandy Maisy (10/20/2006 2:37 p.m.)
Your research is... Reeba (10/20/2006 12:27 p.m.)
Focus : Romanticism. Robert's dream home. ;) Mandy N (10/20/2006 5:52 a.m.)
- This is a wonderful post Mandy... Robbin (10/20/2006 10:45 p.m.)
- Thanks very much Mandy - here's another one Jan (10/20/2006 2:24 p.m.)
  - Oh my!!! I only just realised the date of the Jan (10/20/2006 4:19 p.m.)
- Or this one at... Reeba (10/20/2006 12:05 p.m.)
  - It makes me... Heidi M. (10/20/2006 5:07 p.m.)
  - Breathtakingly beautiful..... thanks :-) nfm Jan (10/20/2006 2:18 p.m.)

Dashwood Sisters (Chapter 37 to 41) Robbin (10/19/2006 11:53 p.m.)

Well! As always your sister posts are a treat... Jan (10/20/2006 3:04 p.m.)

Steele Sisters (Chapter 37 to 41) Robbin (10/19/2006 5:52 p.m.)

Do you think Lucy really confided in Nancy Kara M (10/20/2006 5:01 p.m.)
- Yes, both Nancy and Lucy are Super Snoopers… Robbin (10/21/2006 1:41 a.m.)
- Interesting point, thanks! -nfm Maisy (10/20/2006 5:14 p.m.)
- And also Nancy does not seem to object to Kara M (10/20/2006 5:07 p.m.)
  - Good Friends—Elinor and Nancy Robbin (10/21/2006 6:09 p.m.)
Different relationships...Steele sisters - Dashwood sisters. Mandy N (10/19/2006 10:58 p.m.)
- Elinor’s comfort Robbin (10/21/2006 4:14 p.m.)
"Lucy’s confidence in Edward’s affections" Maisy (10/19/2006 7:51 p.m.)
- This was my impression Amanda McG (10/19/2006 9:41 p.m.)
  - Interesting little line! Karinna A. (10/21/2006 3:39 p.m.)
    - Lucy has no honor and therefore cannot see it in Edward... Robbin (10/21/2006 4:46 p.m.)
  - Agreed Maisy (10/20/2006 9:05 a.m.)
Wow! Amy Marie (10/19/2006 6:17 p.m.)

Father Palmer! Wonderful *snort* passage!! Reeba (10/19/2006 1:59 p.m.)

Yes... BarbaraB (10/22/2006 10:00 a.m.)
Snortworthy, indeed! :-) Delories (10/20/2006 4:41 a.m.)

A big change in Marianne. Reeba (10/19/2006 1:43 p.m.)

very amusing *nfm Therése (10/20/2006 6:15 p.m.)
You are right!! She HAS changed Jan (10/20/2006 3:06 p.m.)
- I really don't see it as a change Barbara (10/21/2006 12:29 p.m.)
  - A small change, perhaps? Karinna A. (10/21/2006 3:49 p.m.)

I am having some problem in understanding... Reeba (10/19/2006 1:32 p.m.)

Thank you Maisy and Mandy. :) nfm Reeba (10/19/2006 2:02 p.m.)
My impressions of Ch. 35 Mandy N (10/19/2006 1:54 p.m.)
- Oh yes! Maisy (10/19/2006 2:06 p.m.)
  - Yes--double or triple meaning there Barbara (10/19/2006 2:22 p.m.)
- I had read that differently Kara M (10/19/2006 2:02 p.m.)
  - All of the above. :-) -nfm Maisy (10/19/2006 2:08 p.m.)
Town Chariot Maisy (10/19/2006 1:50 p.m.)

Selling jewels teri-mc (10/19/2006 10:51 a.m.)

Does 'exchange' necessarily mean 'sale'? nfm Tom P2 (10/19/2006 4:47 p.m.)
- Not certain... yet, Mandy N (10/19/2006 8:30 p.m.)
- I wonder the same Barbara (10/19/2006 5:38 p.m.)
  - That was what I had always read it as. Rae (10/19/2006 6:01 p.m.)
    - What about... Elizabeth Sycamore (10/20/2006 12:28 a.m.)
'a few old- fashioned jewels'. Mandy N (10/19/2006 12:13 p.m.)
- Interesting link, Mandy. Reeba (10/19/2006 2:16 p.m.)
- How interesting! Maisy (10/19/2006 12:52 p.m.)
  - Thanks Maisy.... Georgian jewellery. Mandy N (10/19/2006 1:33 p.m.)

Exeter Exchange....(from L&T). Mandy N (10/18/2006 1:46 p.m.)

Broadview Literary Text edition Maisy (10/18/2006 5:33 p.m.)
Another Gray connection. Reeba (10/18/2006 4:34 p.m.)
- Mentioning the zoo Maisy (10/18/2006 4:55 p.m.)

Gray's Barbara (10/18/2006 2:09 a.m.)

I did stop to wonder... Reeba (10/18/2006 8:23 a.m.)
- I don't think so Barbara (10/18/2006 10:52 a.m.)
  - Yes, Barabara :) Reeba (10/18/2006 11:11 a.m.)
Ooh, that's a good one -- Gray's vs. Miss Grey Delories (10/18/2006 4:15 a.m.)
- John's materialism & 'crying poverty'. Mandy N (10/18/2006 12:35 p.m.)
  - Yes, love the lines about the china... Lynn (10/18/2006 1:36 p.m.)
    - China and linen from Stanhill: L&T question Maisy (10/18/2006 4:25 p.m.)
      - I think that...   Reeba (10/18/2006 4:38 p.m.)
        
        Yes...   Maisy (10/18/2006 4:46 p.m.)
        
        Belonged to the house, I think   Barbara (10/18/2006 4:56 p.m.)
        
        Thanks Barbara :-) -nfm   Maisy (10/18/2006 4:59 p.m.)
- John's poverty Barbara (10/18/2006 11:26 a.m.)
  - Of course! Amanda McG (10/18/2006 1:17 p.m.)
    - Expecting John to help his sisters Maisy (10/18/2006 2:57 p.m.)
      - Mrs. Jennings...   Heidi M. (10/18/2006 3:43 p.m.)
        
        Being a member of the Mrs. jenning's Protection League ;)   Reeba (10/18/2006 4:43 p.m.)
        
        Calibrating Mrs Jennings   Tom P2 (10/20/2006 3:03 a.m.)
        
        Mrs. J.   Maisy (10/18/2006 4:41 p.m.)
  - The toothpick-case and the seal. Reeba (10/18/2006 12:45 p.m.)
    - Oh, yes! Heidi M. (10/18/2006 1:07 p.m.)
      - another idea Lisa Dalrymple (10/19/2006 11:25 a.m.)
        
        LOL, Lisa! (nfm) Elizabeth Sycamore (10/20/2006 3:27 p.m.)
  - The moral of the story is... Delories (10/18/2006 12:31 p.m.)

Puppyism Barbara (10/18/2006 1:30 a.m.)

I usually imagine Ann2 (10/18/2006 2:17 p.m.)
- I think so too. Barbara (10/18/2006 7:11 p.m.)
Oh, yes, it was quite derogatory! Delories (10/18/2006 2:11 a.m.)
- Puppy Deborah d'Bajor (10/18/2006 4:07 a.m.)
  - Thanks, Deborah! Delories (10/18/2006 4:11 a.m.)
    - Some more online definitions Barbara (10/18/2006 5:08 p.m.)

What about the toothpick cases. Reeba (10/17/2006 1:40 p.m.)

A sterling bore... Mandy N (10/18/2006 9:21 a.m.)
Frivolous Barbara (10/18/2006 1:41 a.m.)
This is priceless... Elizabeth Sycamore (10/17/2006 5:52 p.m.)

Something so strange! Robbin (10/17/2006 11:57 a.m.)

I wonder teri-mc (10/17/2006 2:31 p.m.)
At the end of Mrs Jennings's "monstrous" long speech... Delories (10/17/2006 1:15 p.m.)
- Dear Mrs Jennings Rose G (10/18/2006 7:32 a.m.)

A Letter of Lies & Deceit Robbin (10/17/2006 11:09 a.m.)

I can't disagree Amanda McG (10/17/2006 12:15 p.m.)
- Lucy’s intentions and sense of propriety Robbin (10/17/2006 9:49 p.m.)
  - The part that troubles me Amanda McG (10/18/2006 12:58 p.m.)
    - Lucy's suspicions Maisy (10/18/2006 4:04 p.m.)
      - good point Amanda McG (10/19/2006 9:46 p.m.)
        
        Lucy's evidence Maisy (10/20/2006 9:57 a.m.)
      - Also Edward and Lucy corresponded Kara M (10/19/2006 3:05 p.m.)
        
        Excellent point! Thanks! -nfm Maisy (10/19/2006 3:17 p.m.)
  - "In such a case I am sure I could not be deceived".... Delories (10/18/2006 4:04 a.m.)
- That's a good point, in that Lucy is not intelligent... Delories (10/17/2006 1:08 p.m.)

Beginning of a beautiful relationship? Robbin (10/17/2006 9:20 a.m.)

LOL, Robbin... Maisy (10/17/2006 10:23 a.m.)
- I like that little tidbit... Lynn (10/17/2006 3:55 p.m.)
  - I love the sense of relief Tracy W (10/17/2006 5:11 p.m.)

I just love Miss Steele Kara M (10/16/2006 4:34 p.m.)

LOL! And I loved Lynn (10/17/2006 9:07 a.m.)
Nice resonance between the image of Miss "Steele"... Delories (10/17/2006 7:22 a.m.)
Huswife is a needle case or book Barbara (10/16/2006 7:54 p.m.)
- Thanks the pics are lovely nfm Kara M (10/19/2006 2:37 p.m.)
- Huswives & samplers are lovely. Mandy N (10/18/2006 2:22 p.m.)
- Those are beautiful! Lynn (10/17/2006 9:06 a.m.)
  - Hmmm... Elizabeth Sycamore (10/17/2006 5:57 p.m.)
Huswife; continuing the engagement; what sort of Doctor? Tom P2 (10/16/2006 6:59 p.m.)
- He's almost certainly a cleric Jan (10/17/2006 3:47 p.m.)
  - Thanks, I'd missed that detail, nfm Tom P2 (10/17/2006 5:47 p.m.)
- Clerical not medical Deborah d'Bajor (10/17/2006 7:34 a.m.)
  - There are records of medical 'doctors' Jan (10/17/2006 2:16 p.m.)
  - Doctor Maisy (10/17/2006 8:42 a.m.)
My quick thoughts... Elizabeth Sycamore (10/16/2006 6:45 p.m.)
- Lucy's options. Mandy N (10/19/2006 12:58 p.m.)
- Hanging on by her nails... Heidi M. (10/17/2006 10:12 a.m.)
  - Further plotting! Rose G (10/17/2006 10:22 a.m.)

John Dashwood Maisy (10/16/2006 10:08 a.m.)

Matchmaking á la Dashwood Ann2 (10/18/2006 1:57 p.m.)
But Recall James S. (10/17/2006 3:02 p.m.)
- JA And Gentle Elitism James S. (10/21/2006 2:42 p.m.)
  - Good heavens! Karinna A. (10/21/2006 5:37 p.m.)
    - Reply James S. (10/22/2006 3:33 p.m.)
      - Other Questions James S. (10/22/2006 3:57 p.m.)
  - And James S. (10/21/2006 2:55 p.m.)
- Give the Miss Dashwoods some credit, though Delories (10/18/2006 4:08 a.m.)
  - Agree, different attitudes of John and Miss Dashwoods. Mandy N (10/19/2006 11:02 a.m.)
  - Also Heidi M. (10/18/2006 11:50 a.m.)
    - Well, I think that...:) Reeba (10/18/2006 12:25 p.m.)
      - I agree, well said. nfm ;D   Robbin (10/18/2006 4:38 p.m.)
        
        Gosh, Robbin!! Are you agreeing with me about LM? ;) nfm   Reeba (10/18/2006 4:46 p.m.)
        
        Oh Dear!   Robbin (10/19/2006 5:11 p.m.)
        
        I had guessed that much, Robbin. ;) nfm   Reeba (10/19/2006 5:20 p.m.)
        
        Ah, but...   Heidi M. (10/19/2006 6:36 p.m.)
      - But would you rather... Heidi M. (10/18/2006 1:04 p.m.)
John is clueless Ingunn V (10/17/2006 6:57 a.m.)
Does John Dashwood even Rebecka (10/16/2006 11:49 p.m.)
- Wounding Elinor Maisy (10/17/2006 8:30 a.m.)
- That's the worst thing about him, really Mary Anne (10/17/2006 8:25 a.m.)
Money Frances R (10/16/2006 5:12 p.m.)
Ah, yes, haven't we all known someone like that... *nfm* Delories (10/16/2006 1:07 p.m.)

Brandon Sharon C (10/15/2006 3:26 p.m.)

Thoughts on Brandon James S. (10/15/2006 11:15 a.m.)

Adding my opinion to the rest :) Reeba (10/15/2006 2:48 p.m.)
Brandon’s secrets… Robbin (10/15/2006 2:01 p.m.)
- Mrs. Jennings not knowing Barbara (10/15/2006 7:04 p.m.)
Pre-Willoughby, he had about 2 weeks Barbara (10/15/2006 12:42 p.m.)
- Yes, but ... James S. (10/15/2006 2:34 p.m.)
  - Rather more doubtful Tracy W (10/15/2006 6:29 p.m.)
  - Hmmm Barbara (10/15/2006 3:11 p.m.)
    - Reply James S. (10/17/2006 2:12 p.m.)
      - Not supposition at all   Barbara (10/17/2006 4:29 p.m.)
        
        Your Quote   James S. (10/17/2006 10:58 p.m.)
        
        I am sure it isn't Elinor...   Reeba (10/18/2006 3:40 a.m.)
        
        A Reinterpretation   James S. (10/21/2006 1:24 p.m.)
        
        I don't agree at all :)   Reeba (10/21/2006 2:00 p.m.)
        
        ....Quite agree,   Mandy N (10/22/2006 12:18 a.m.)
        
        Brandon's Advocate   James S. (10/17/2006 5:57 p.m.)
        
        I believe you are misquoting me:)   Pennie (10/18/2006 11:52 p.m.)
        
        hmm   James S. (10/21/2006 1:32 p.m.)
        
        And   James S. (10/21/2006 1:44 p.m.)
        
        Hesitation   James S. (10/21/2006 2:03 p.m.)
        
        Not at all.   Reeba (10/18/2006 3:48 a.m.)
        
        Your posts?   Barbara (10/17/2006 11:08 p.m.)
        
        Question   Robbin (10/17/2006 8:57 p.m.)
        
        Your Question   James S. (10/17/2006 10:55 p.m.)
        
        And   James S. (10/17/2006 10:56 p.m.)
    - You are endeavoring to disarm him by reason! ;-) nfm Delories (10/16/2006 3:46 a.m.)

Proof of conscious… Robbin (10/15/2006 2:13 a.m.)

There's a giggle line in that passage Delories (10/16/2006 1:12 p.m.)
- The next sentence after the giggleworthy one Tom P2 (10/16/2006 4:03 p.m.)
Lucy's motives Maisy (10/16/2006 10:23 a.m.)
Lucy's feelings Line (10/15/2006 10:56 a.m.)

Ugly Ferrars, inside and out… Robbin (10/15/2006 1:05 a.m.)

A testament of the Ferras family.... Mandy N (10/19/2006 8:37 a.m.)
Contraction of the brow Line (10/15/2006 10:42 a.m.)
- You are probably right... Robbin (10/15/2006 11:58 a.m.)

Dashwood Sisters (chapters 26 to 31) Robbin (10/14/2006 12:48 a.m.)

Sisters BarbaraB (10/15/2006 10:13 p.m.)
'Elinor is in search and rescue mode' - love it! Jan (10/15/2006 3:06 p.m.)
- Two instances Ann2 (10/18/2006 5:15 p.m.)
  - Both I think ... Kara M (10/19/2006 2:41 p.m.)

Focus : Romanticism. The private & the public ; Letters. Mandy N (10/13/2006 1:57 a.m.)

Many thanks to you all. Mandy N (10/19/2006 3:39 a.m.)
This is a great focus... BarbaraB (10/15/2006 10:11 p.m.)
This is wonderful and I love that picture too! nfm :D Robbin (10/14/2006 3:48 p.m.)
Living in society vs living in conflict with it Tracy W (10/14/2006 5:42 a.m.)
- Enjoyed reading this post, thanks. nfm BarbaraB (10/15/2006 10:08 p.m.)
- Great post ... Robbin (10/14/2006 3:45 p.m.)
Very interesting Mandy Jan (10/13/2006 12:02 p.m.)
- Elinor & Sensibility. Mandy N (10/13/2006 6:54 p.m.)
  - Brilliant Rae (10/14/2006 2:07 p.m.)
    - Thanks, although... Mandy N (10/14/2006 2:27 p.m.)
      - You don't have to be 'original' Jan (10/15/2006 2:58 p.m.)
Marianne seems to be... Reeba (10/13/2006 9:47 a.m.)

Col Brandon - a true friend to the Dashwoods Pennie (10/13/2006 12:16 a.m.)

Marianne vs Elinor's grief Pennie (10/13/2006 12:01 a.m.)

Attitudes to Pregnancy Pennie (10/12/2006 11:53 p.m.)

I think depends on the manner Tracy W (10/14/2006 4:57 a.m.)
I think Marnie (10/13/2006 2:08 p.m.)

Willoughby and Colonel Brandon's brother Barbara (10/12/2006 2:47 p.m.)

I never... Lynn (10/14/2006 1:29 p.m.)
- She so like Eliza... Reeba (10/14/2006 2:10 p.m.)
  - He does take blame Barbara (10/14/2006 6:51 p.m.)

One of the many ironic points of this passage... Delories (10/12/2006 2:47 a.m.)

Good point, Delories. Reeba (10/12/2006 3:12 p.m.)

The duel Barbara (10/12/2006 2:11 a.m.)

linkage teri-mc (10/12/2006 5:39 p.m.)
'Unavoidable meeting'.... Mandy N (10/12/2006 4:39 p.m.)
- I'm with Elinor Tracy W (10/13/2006 12:04 a.m.)
  - Col. Brandon is an officer and a gentleman Janette K (10/13/2006 8:04 p.m.)
    - And yet the army moved beyond that Tracy W (10/14/2006 4:35 a.m.)
  - But it might have gotten about... Lynn (10/13/2006 10:54 a.m.)
    - If Mrs Jennings has not heard of it then it must be secret (nfm) Tracy W (10/13/2006 5:11 p.m.)
      - LOL, Tracy! ;-) (nfm) Elizabeth Sycamore (10/13/2006 7:36 p.m.)
  - To me it shows passion... Reeba (10/13/2006 4:44 a.m.)
    - His passion... Suzy (10/14/2006 2:17 p.m.)
      - I agree Barbara (10/14/2006 6:59 p.m.)
- What they were ostensibly trying to achieve Tom P2 (10/12/2006 6:26 p.m.)
  - Willoughby disgraced Mary Anne (10/12/2006 8:20 p.m.)
    - I'm not so sure Amanda McG (10/13/2006 12:05 a.m.)
Thoughts on the duel… Robbin (10/12/2006 2:16 p.m.)
- Was it not impossible Ann2 (10/12/2006 4:07 p.m.)
  - I am not sure about anyone being able to get away Robbin (10/12/2006 5:01 p.m.)
- pistols vs rifles teri-mc (10/12/2006 3:04 p.m.)
  - Great points--thanks, wonderful reasoning! nfm :D Robbin (10/12/2006 4:57 p.m.)
close escape? Amanda McG (10/12/2006 1:14 p.m.)
Yes Marnie (10/12/2006 10:01 a.m.)
I blush to admit it Therése (10/12/2006 9:06 a.m.)
- They really disliked each other IMO… Robbin (10/12/2006 2:12 p.m.)
  - Yes I see Therése (10/12/2006 3:15 p.m.)
    - Ahh, I definiately agree with you then--thanks! nfm ;D Robbin (10/12/2006 4:52 p.m.)
- I never did either... Lynn (10/12/2006 10:24 a.m.)
What I have always pictured Mary Anne (10/12/2006 8:33 a.m.)

The decline of a 'fallen woman' Barbara (10/12/2006 2:09 a.m.)

Likelihood of Marianne becoming a 'fallen woman' Pennie (10/12/2006 11:39 p.m.)
- Was Marianne in danger? Maisy (10/14/2006 2:27 p.m.)
  - Wrong link Maisy (10/14/2006 7:26 p.m.)
  - Age 17 Barbara (10/14/2006 6:54 p.m.)
- I think the following may prove... Reeba (10/13/2006 9:33 a.m.)
  - Please do not go into next week's chapters Barbara (10/13/2006 10:20 a.m.)
    - I am sorry. I don't know... Reeba (10/13/2006 10:48 a.m.)
- Ch9: her modesty declined what her situation rendered necessary Tom P2 (10/13/2006 4:24 a.m.)
- I have an opinion Barbara (10/13/2006 1:28 a.m.)
  - I shall eagerly await your proof when the time comes Pennie (10/13/2006 2:22 a.m.)
Trying to comfort Elinor as well as himself? Ann2 (10/12/2006 3:51 p.m.)

A 'dangerous' subject Barbara (10/12/2006 1:52 a.m.)

It's the struggle that's important Pennie (10/12/2006 11:33 p.m.)
Dangerous indeed, especially for Willoughby Robbin (10/12/2006 4:50 p.m.)
- Source of Willoughby's disparagement of Brandon in ch10 Tom P2 (10/12/2006 6:17 p.m.)
  - How shocking… Robbin (10/12/2006 6:56 p.m.)
    - No direct evidence, just conjecturing how Eliza II views Brandon Tom P2 (10/12/2006 10:53 p.m.)
      - Mean Spirited Eliza II Robbin (10/13/2006 1:25 a.m.)
Indeed. Very touching... Reeba (10/12/2006 2:51 p.m.)
That's an "oh my!" scene! Lynn (10/12/2006 10:30 a.m.)

Some - smile/chuckle/LOL lines. Reeba (10/11/2006 10:16 a.m.)

Some smiley lines... :) Mandy N (10/11/2006 12:12 p.m.)
- Some more ... Reeba (10/12/2006 3:07 p.m.)
What is an FUP? NFM Amy Marie (10/11/2006 11:11 a.m.)
- Frequently Used Phrase. Reeba (10/11/2006 11:18 a.m.)
  - LOL! Amy Marie (10/11/2006 11:49 a.m.)

Marianne's faith in Willoughby Maisy (10/11/2006 9:03 a.m.)

discussion of Ch 32 doesn't start until Oct. 14 NFM teri-mc (10/11/2006 10:13 a.m.)
- Whoops! I thought it was part of this weeks chapters! Maisy (10/11/2006 10:26 a.m.)
  - Let the games begin! Maisy (10/14/2006 2:37 p.m.)
    - Ah, yes :). Reeba (10/14/2006 4:19 p.m.)

Miss Grey Amy Marie (10/10/2006 5:19 a.m.)

Money Therése (10/12/2006 11:33 a.m.)
- Other peoples' money... Mandy N (10/12/2006 1:30 p.m.)
You put a MAJOR spoiler in your missive NFM Heidi M. (10/10/2006 11:48 a.m.)
- Yes, please be careful Barbara (10/10/2006 12:26 p.m.)
I think it's VERY realistic! Miss Grey is a spoiled rich girl... Delories (10/10/2006 7:36 a.m.)
- Miss Grey and Willoughby... Mandy N (10/10/2006 8:44 a.m.)
  - A very fine fish to be caught... Heidi M. (10/10/2006 11:54 a.m.)
    - ALMOST is the key word, eh? >;-) *nfm* Delories (10/10/2006 3:01 p.m.)

Home remedies Barbara (10/10/2006 1:28 a.m.)

A lavender water clue from Mr Tilney Tom P2 (10/10/2006 4:42 a.m.)
- Wine has quite a few calories too Tracy W (10/10/2006 3:02 p.m.)
  - I always thought... Pennie (10/12/2006 11:18 p.m.)
    - St Bernard dogs with barrels around their neck Tracy W (10/15/2006 6:12 p.m.)
- 'reviving her with lavender water'. Mandy N (10/10/2006 6:30 a.m.)
  - I wonder if the water and the drops Jan (10/10/2006 12:40 p.m.)
    - Probably so, Mandy N (10/10/2006 1:10 p.m.)
      - About lavender Janette K (10/11/2006 12:37 a.m.)
Remedies for a broken heart… :D Robbin (10/10/2006 2:13 a.m.)
- Great reading, Robbin;-) (nfm) Moni (10/10/2006 11:07 a.m.)

A tale of two Elizas Barbara (10/10/2006 1:19 a.m.)

Colonel Brandon wouldn't be Colonel Brandon... Reeba (10/10/2006 3:34 p.m.)
- Absolutely BarbaraB (10/14/2006 9:49 p.m.)
- I think you are right about the importance of the first Eliza Robbin (10/11/2006 4:08 p.m.)
  - Colonel Brandon as a father Barbara (10/12/2006 1:21 a.m.)
    - The children wouldn't be irritating at all... Reeba (10/12/2006 2:57 a.m.)
      - I don't think that's fair   Barbara (10/12/2006 10:34 a.m.)
        
        Agree   BarbaraB (10/14/2006 9:16 p.m.)
        
        Barbara--you are right on the money... (;D) nfm   Robbin (10/12/2006 2:28 p.m.)
        
        Well, I always found the...   Reeba (10/12/2006 2:57 p.m.)
        
        Questions…   Robbin (10/12/2006 5:23 p.m.)
  - LOL, Robbin. I had a good laugh! :D nfm Reeba (10/11/2006 4:48 p.m.)
- the colonel's attraction to Marianne Janette K (10/11/2006 3:04 p.m.)
Two Elizas Deborah d'Bajor (10/10/2006 4:41 a.m.)
- The nature of feeling...Col. Brandon. Mandy N (10/10/2006 12:31 p.m.)
- Each Eliza serves a different purpose Jennifer Ellen (10/10/2006 12:02 p.m.)

Undercover Angel Robbin (10/10/2006 12:21 a.m.)

We need to start a Jennings Protection League... Heidi M. (10/10/2006 12:09 p.m.)
- I'm with you there Pennie (10/12/2006 11:00 p.m.)
  - So am I. Her real worth emerges... Reeba (10/13/2006 1:59 p.m.)
  - And my application... Mandy N (10/12/2006 11:22 p.m.)
    - *nods* Heidi M. (10/13/2006 3:46 p.m.)
      - LOL ! Very commendable. :-) (nfm) Mandy N (10/13/2006 7:12 p.m.)
Yes!! She is fiercely... Moni (10/10/2006 11:14 a.m.)
I just love Mrs Jennings! Delories (10/10/2006 3:33 a.m.)
- Just one more reason to love Brandon! Mary Anne (10/10/2006 8:08 a.m.)

Much ado from Marianne Barbara (10/9/2006 7:03 p.m.)

Love the Much Ado about Nothing comparison! nfm :D Robbin (10/10/2006 3:14 a.m.)
Light on Miss Grey Robbin (10/10/2006 3:08 a.m.)
- any one...but {Elinor}, mama, and Edward Deborah d'Bajor (10/10/2006 4:47 a.m.)

Sporting with affections Barbara (10/9/2006 3:34 p.m.)

Edward doesn't seem to have openly courted Elinor Tracy W (10/10/2006 5:23 a.m.)
- Edward's mood swings Tom P2 (10/11/2006 9:55 p.m.)
Oh and this... Barbara (10/9/2006 3:45 p.m.)
- DH and I puzzled over this one Mary Ellen (10/9/2006 6:35 p.m.)
  - That's very true, but... Barbara (10/9/2006 7:13 p.m.)
    - I think.... Heidi M. (10/10/2006 11:46 a.m.)
      - ragard teri-mc (10/10/2006 12:01 p.m.)
        
        should read REGARD nfm teri-mc (10/10/2006 12:05 p.m.)
- And these Tom P2 (10/9/2006 6:26 p.m.)

Subtle body language in S&S Delories (10/9/2006 3:56 a.m.)

Another one, courtesy of Robbin (thread above) Delories (10/10/2006 3:22 a.m.)
A few I particularly noticed Barbara (10/9/2006 1:39 p.m.)
- Yes, yes. Ann2 (10/9/2006 5:14 p.m.)

Flowers Sent to Lucy Steele James S. (10/8/2006 11:59 a.m.)

Once Again That Steele Woman James S. (10/9/2006 6:15 p.m.)
- Opinions - Kara M (10/12/2006 12:40 p.m.)
Lucy was ignorant and illiterate? Tracy W (10/9/2006 2:23 a.m.)
- Reminder Myretta (10/9/2006 8:32 a.m.)
Lucy is acting a part so… Robbin (10/9/2006 12:49 a.m.)
Not Only Does She Deserve Flowers... BarbaraB (10/8/2006 9:49 p.m.)
- LOL Barabara B :D. That's quite... Reeba (10/10/2006 2:54 p.m.)
  - A child she doesn't even pretend to like… Robbin (10/10/2006 6:19 p.m.)
    - Not in particular :) Reeba (10/11/2006 9:24 a.m.)
      - Anne, and Lucy and Vengeful Children—oh my! LOL :D   Robbin (10/11/2006 4:01 p.m.)
        
        I pity LM's guests   Kara M (10/12/2006 2:02 p.m.)
        
        Spoiled brats and Elinor   Heidi M. (10/11/2006 4:49 p.m.)
        
        You missed out.....   Reeba (10/11/2006 4:46 p.m.)
OMG, I completely agree! Amy Marie (10/8/2006 12:22 p.m.)
- LOL!!! Amy Marie (10/8/2006 3:10 p.m.)
  - As predicted Tom P2 (10/8/2006 9:12 p.m.)
    - The problem is Amy Marie (10/9/2006 8:28 a.m.)
- Hard Cheese, Eleanor James S. (10/8/2006 2:17 p.m.)
  - Harsh words for Elinor? Robbin (10/9/2006 4:18 a.m.)

Farewell to Devon Jan (10/7/2006 9:27 p.m.)

Beautiful Jan! MaryAnn K. (10/11/2006 3:06 a.m.)
Thanks Jan. Never imagined.. Reeba (10/10/2006 2:33 p.m.)
Travelling to London... Mandy N (10/8/2006 1:46 p.m.)
Oh Jan! Rae (10/8/2006 11:31 a.m.)
Whoooops... missed off the link... Jan (10/8/2006 5:15 a.m.)
- Jan... Robbin (10/8/2006 1:55 p.m.)
- Delightful ramble IMO... Ann2 (10/8/2006 6:36 a.m.)
  - I'll keep the site up for the foreseeable future so Jan (10/8/2006 10:51 a.m.)
The South Gate of Exeter CarolB (10/7/2006 11:29 p.m.)
- Jinx Carol! I have that image on the page and Jan (10/8/2006 5:25 a.m.)

Here's Plymouth Jan (10/7/2006 6:32 p.m.)

A wonderful site :) Mandy N (10/8/2006 3:46 a.m.)
- I agree with Mandy N... Robbin (10/8/2006 1:59 p.m.)
What lovely green hillsides around Exeter :) nfm BarbaraB (10/8/2006 3:26 a.m.)
Wonderful, Jan! Elizabeth Sycamore (10/7/2006 8:43 p.m.)

Dashwood Sisters (chapters 17 to 25) Long Robbin (10/7/2006 8:06 a.m.)

Sisterly Barbs Siobhan (10/10/2006 7:42 a.m.)
Elinor's testing... Mandy N (10/8/2006 1:17 p.m.)
- John & Fanny do not deserve respect… Robbin (10/9/2006 3:46 a.m.)
  - Indeed, no. Mandy N (10/9/2006 6:58 a.m.)
    - The pivotal ch17 understanding-vs-behaviour 'doctrine' again! nfm Tom P2 (10/9/2006 6:43 p.m.)
Thanks Robbin - this is so interesting... Jan (10/8/2006 10:59 a.m.)

Some information re: Exeter Jan (10/6/2006 4:53 a.m.)

Wonderful Pics to Savor, Thanks nfm BarbaraB (10/8/2006 3:23 a.m.)
Excellent! -nfm Maisy (10/7/2006 11:58 a.m.)
Thank you so much again! Barbara (10/6/2006 9:11 p.m.)
Great map & wonderful pictures-- thanks ! Mandy N (10/6/2006 7:03 p.m.)
I agree with Ann2 & cannot say it better! Thanks! nfm :D Robbin (10/6/2006 6:20 p.m.)
Oh, my dear! Ann2 (10/6/2006 5:45 p.m.)
Jan, where did the map come from? Rae (10/6/2006 3:12 p.m.)
- It's Carey's 1809 map with my additions Jan (10/6/2006 3:27 p.m.)

Calculating Lucy Jan (10/5/2006 12:07 p.m.)

"Discovering" them to be relations Barbara (10/6/2006 10:51 a.m.)
- Exeter excursion...invitation. Mandy N (10/6/2006 5:56 p.m.)
  - Calculated meeting Maisy (10/7/2006 11:49 a.m.)
    - But she also has the nerve... Barbara (10/7/2006 3:52 p.m.)
      - Indeed! -nfm- Maisy (10/8/2006 11:06 a.m.)
  - Do you think... Heidi M. (10/6/2006 6:39 p.m.)
    - Only if... Barbara (10/6/2006 9:05 p.m.)
It was very uncanny to say the least Heidi M. (10/5/2006 1:38 p.m.)
- How would Lucy know this about Sir John? Pennie (10/5/2006 7:43 p.m.)
  - I just said something about this lower :-) NFM Heidi M. (10/5/2006 7:54 p.m.)
    - Ahhh... we wrote this at the same time :) nfm Pennie (10/5/2006 7:59 p.m.)
- Hurrying off to Exeter? Line (10/5/2006 7:33 p.m.)
  - The fact is that there wasn't much time Jan (10/5/2006 8:05 p.m.)
  - Why not? Heidi M. (10/5/2006 7:52 p.m.)

Lady Middleton & Charlotte Palmer (chapters 17 to 25) Robbin (10/5/2006 6:12 a.m.)

Opposites attracted? Ann2 (10/6/2006 6:26 p.m.)
- LM's name Melissa (10/7/2006 12:11 a.m.)
  - You are right. We do indeed Ann2 (10/7/2006 4:42 a.m.)
In my probably doomed campaign to rehabilitate Lady Middleton... Rae (10/6/2006 3:17 p.m.)
- Childhood trauma… ;D Robbin (10/6/2006 6:16 p.m.)
  - LOL!! This was just what Rae (10/8/2006 11:35 a.m.)
    - I don't think so ;) Reeba (10/10/2006 3:18 p.m.)
Interesting Rose G (10/6/2006 7:45 a.m.)
- Stretching… Robbin (10/6/2006 5:38 p.m.)

Idleness as a means of escape… Robbin (10/5/2006 3:44 a.m.)

That's an interesting point you make Pennie (10/5/2006 7:57 p.m.)
- So after all this incapability Ann2 (10/7/2006 5:47 p.m.)

Anne & Lucy Steele (chapters 17 to 25) Robbin (10/5/2006 3:20 a.m.)

Lucy's voice is, perhaps, just a teeny bit strident? Delories (10/8/2006 11:55 a.m.)
- You said it! Ann2 (10/8/2006 1:24 p.m.)
  - Crying Lucy Robbin (10/8/2006 3:53 p.m.)
Lucy's desperation Maisy (10/6/2006 4:48 p.m.)
- Maisy--your comments are right-on. Thanks! nfm :D Robbin (10/6/2006 5:22 p.m.)
Coaching Nancy and securing Edward Barbara (10/6/2006 11:08 a.m.)
- How Lucy attracted Edward in the first place Tom P2 (10/7/2006 1:33 a.m.)
  - Being or seeming? Barbara (10/7/2006 2:05 a.m.)
- Good point... Robbin (10/6/2006 5:19 p.m.)
- "the strange unsuitableness" Maisy (10/6/2006 4:11 p.m.)
Anne's accidental wit Pennie (10/5/2006 7:56 p.m.)
- I liked the irony in that line too - thanks for reminding me nfm Tracy W (10/5/2006 8:41 p.m.)

A SUTH for Lucy Pennie (10/4/2006 8:07 p.m.)

Brave Elinor and sly Lucy. Mandy N (10/5/2006 1:27 a.m.)
Types of SUTH; the risk of telling Elinor; outstanding grammar Tom P2 (10/4/2006 11:01 p.m.)
- Elinor's Promise Pennie (10/4/2006 11:29 p.m.)
  - Lucy's morals (if that's the right term) Melissa G (10/6/2006 1:26 a.m.)
    - Not one bit too nasty Mary Anne (10/6/2006 11:05 a.m.)

Poor Marianne Tracy W (10/4/2006 4:55 a.m.)

I agree... Robbin (10/12/2006 7:04 p.m.)

Margaret's Wish BarbaraB (10/3/2006 11:19 p.m.)

Sisters' approaches to life... Mandy N (10/4/2006 11:51 a.m.)
- romance and marianne Mishel (10/4/2006 3:44 p.m.)
  - I agree with this view of Marianne Jan (10/5/2006 1:28 p.m.)
  - I don't think so... Heidi M. (10/4/2006 5:27 p.m.)
    - I agree Pennie (10/4/2006 7:38 p.m.)
      - Is Elinor, in a very understated way, signalling to Edward... Delories (10/5/2006 3:24 a.m.)
        
        I agree Heidi M. (10/5/2006 12:48 p.m.)

Taking Elinor's hair unawares Pennie (10/3/2006 10:28 p.m.)

Theft or contrivance Barbara (10/4/2006 11:29 p.m.)
- This is interesting because... Moni (10/5/2006 10:04 a.m.)
  - Whose else? Rose G (10/6/2006 8:06 a.m.)
    - It's weird because... Moni (10/6/2006 8:58 a.m.)
      - MIght it be Ann2 (10/6/2006 5:32 p.m.)
        
        Yes!! (nfm) Moni (10/7/2006 1:14 a.m.)
I had to check back... Deborah d'Bajor (10/4/2006 4:04 a.m.)
- That's what I thought Laraine (10/4/2006 12:38 p.m.)
  - The fact that Elinor didn't make a fuss... Moni (10/5/2006 10:27 a.m.)
The only thing I can think of Line (10/3/2006 11:10 p.m.)
- My mental image was always a bit different Tracy W (10/4/2006 4:58 a.m.)
  - This was my romantic image as well! nfm Anne L (10/9/2006 7:12 p.m.)
- Not only not a romantic image... Pennie (10/3/2006 11:52 p.m.)
  - Elinor's thinking.... Mandy N (10/4/2006 8:07 a.m.)
    - Thanks for the fabulous picture!!! Jan (10/5/2006 12:54 p.m.)

Filigree Lynn (10/3/2006 8:43 a.m.)

Yes, a bit like quilling... Deborah d'Bajor (10/3/2006 9:37 a.m.)
- Here's a filigree basket Barbara (10/3/2006 10:33 a.m.)
  - Oh, lovely! Lynn (10/3/2006 1:20 p.m.)
    - To work filagree...Elinor's clear thinking. Mandy N (10/3/2006 2:35 p.m.)
      - Very pretty... Rose G (10/6/2006 7:57 a.m.)
        
        I think that's the point! Barbara (10/6/2006 11:12 a.m.)

What's Elinor thinking? Deborah d'Bajor (10/2/2006 5:03 a.m.)

I've always wondered... Barbara (10/3/2006 12:46 p.m.)
It struck me too, because... Tom P2 (10/2/2006 5:41 a.m.)

What is the point of Mr Palmer in S&S? Tracy W (10/1/2006 11:13 p.m.)

Interchangable men Barbara (10/3/2006 12:42 p.m.)
- Now there's a fun thing to look for! Delories (10/4/2006 7:00 a.m.)
  - Good stuff indeed! I like it! -nfm Maisy (10/4/2006 5:02 p.m.)
- Ah, JA's favourite theme of marriage Tracy W (10/4/2006 4:50 a.m.)
  - I cannot picture them... Barbara (10/4/2006 3:42 p.m.)
    - They could rent another cottage Tracy W (10/4/2006 4:33 p.m.)
      - I Can't Help Wondering   BarbaraB (10/8/2006 2:31 a.m.)
        
        There are some costs to marriage too   Tracy W (10/9/2006 2:09 a.m.)
        
        Two different Barbaras posting in this thread -nfm   Maisy (10/9/2006 6:33 p.m.)
- Partners in life Ann2 (10/3/2006 5:27 p.m.)
  - Marry at haste, repent in leisure Pennie (10/3/2006 11:09 p.m.)
  - Love and marriage Line (10/3/2006 11:00 p.m.)
    - It's interesting Barbara (10/3/2006 11:10 p.m.)
      - Hmmmm BarbaraB (10/7/2006 10:32 p.m.)
        
        Not a "bad" marriage, then Mary Anne (10/8/2006 9:43 a.m.)
He's acidly funny? Mary Ellen (10/2/2006 12:13 p.m.)
- Agreed and also the... Moni (10/2/2006 1:21 p.m.)
  - The word "sensible" Tom P2 (10/2/2006 6:24 p.m.)
    - I think JA used the word... Reeba (10/11/2006 11:15 a.m.)
    - That meaning predates S&S Laraine (10/3/2006 12:39 p.m.)
      - Dr. Johnson's dictionary   Barbara (10/3/2006 7:06 p.m.)
        
        Dr. Johnson is "nice" rather often, I feel   Laraine (10/4/2006 12:32 p.m.)
        
        Interesting   Barbara (10/4/2006 2:23 p.m.)
So far, an acid test for Mrs Jennings Tom P2 (10/2/2006 6:28 a.m.)
- I love Mrs Jenning's response to his rudeness Pennie (10/4/2006 12:52 a.m.)

Columella, indolence and inactivity Barbara (10/1/2006 10:03 p.m.)

"I did absolutely nothing... Heidi M. (10/2/2006 4:30 p.m.)
I had no idea Ann2 (10/2/2006 4:15 p.m.)
'Properly idle' Mandy N (10/2/2006 3:15 p.m.)
Thank you... Lynn (10/2/2006 9:56 a.m.)
- I found the information... Moni (10/5/2006 10:38 a.m.)

Wicked London James S. (10/1/2006 3:45 p.m.)

Edward didn't come from London though Barbara (10/3/2006 1:00 p.m.)
- Ladies in Waiting Pennie (10/3/2006 10:19 p.m.)
  - Hmm Ann2 (10/4/2006 5:47 p.m.)
Does Edward Lynn (10/1/2006 5:18 p.m.)

Some things never change Tracy W (9/30/2006 10:48 p.m.)

LOL! Lynn (10/1/2006 9:07 a.m.)

Focus: Romantic Movement; 'Pleasure Grounds' & Picturesque. Mandy N (9/30/2006 2:42 p.m.)

Where Marianne finds fault Ann2 (10/3/2006 5:50 p.m.)
'Affects less' Rae (10/1/2006 9:33 a.m.)
I hadn't thought of that before.... Jan (10/1/2006 6:56 a.m.)
- ' Beauty with utility ' Mandy N (10/2/2006 12:31 p.m.)
Very enlightening… Robbin (9/30/2006 4:53 p.m.)
Very very interesting, Mandy :) Reeba (9/30/2006 3:15 p.m.)

Mr. Palmer & Willoughby Robbin (9/30/2006 10:25 a.m.)

The Palmers...and Willoughby. Mandy N (10/1/2006 1:31 p.m.)
- Mr Palmer and Politics Pennie (10/3/2006 10:13 p.m.)
  - I always assumed he was a Tory Jan (10/4/2006 2:17 p.m.)
    - My Norton Critical edition Barbara (10/6/2006 3:38 p.m.)
      - Thanks Barbara for pointing that out. nfm :D Robbin (10/6/2006 5:11 p.m.)
- Charlotte & Mrs. Jennings Robbin (10/1/2006 9:04 p.m.)
  - Eh, Mrs. Palmer Heidi M. (10/1/2006 9:14 p.m.)

Elinor's disappointments Jan (9/30/2006 7:17 a.m.)

Elinor: please call Dr. Laura Lee3 (9/30/2006 12:31 p.m.)
- Or maybe... Pennie (10/3/2006 2:07 a.m.)

Dashwood Sisters, chapters 9 to 16 Robbin (9/30/2006 1:18 a.m.)

Fascinating! Jan (10/1/2006 6:06 a.m.)
Dashwood sisters....thoughts on Elinor's humour. Mandy N (9/30/2006 9:30 a.m.)
- Thank you! Robbin (9/30/2006 10:10 a.m.)

Group read reminder for everyone Barbara (9/29/2006 10:09 p.m.)

Edward, talkative at last Tom P2 (9/29/2006 8:02 p.m.)

Old twisted trees, dead leaves and dirty lanes Reeba (9/30/2006 10:07 a.m.)
- Were not you surprised Ann2 (10/3/2006 6:10 p.m.)
- What would Edward be like normally? Pennie (10/3/2006 1:52 a.m.)
Sorry Barbara (9/29/2006 10:05 p.m.)

Willoughby’s Silence—what’s up? (long) ;D Robbin (9/29/2006 2:22 p.m.)

Good Question BarbaraB (9/30/2006 11:55 a.m.)
Very interesting! I think you've hit the nail on the head! (nfm) Elizabeth Sycamore (9/29/2006 11:08 p.m.)
Interesting pattern! Tom P2 (9/29/2006 7:39 p.m.)
- Thank you, Robbin. Yes,... Reeba (9/30/2006 11:23 a.m.)

Noticed two interesting things. Reeba (9/29/2006 1:18 p.m.)

I noticed what Sir John did.., Mandy N (10/3/2006 3:36 a.m.)
- The noisy guests - great scene! Ann2 (10/3/2006 6:25 p.m.)
  - Amusing chapters Pennie (10/3/2006 9:59 p.m.)

Very visually descriptive passage... Reeba (9/29/2006 1:10 p.m.)

I was struck... Barbara (10/1/2006 10:08 p.m.)
- While I would agree TerriAnn (10/2/2006 4:23 a.m.)
  - No doubt that is true Barbara (10/2/2006 1:00 p.m.)
Cult of Sensibility BarbaraB (9/30/2006 12:45 p.m.)
- Oh, yes, it was very fashionable! Delories (10/1/2006 11:50 a.m.)
  - Great example, Delories, thank you :) [nfm] Tina T (10/2/2006 3:51 p.m.)
Courting grief. Mandy N (9/30/2006 3:52 a.m.)
- Edward's Visit BarbaraB (9/30/2006 11:51 a.m.)

Sudden Departures Deborah d'Bajor (9/29/2006 4:42 a.m.)

And Elinor... Elizabeth Sycamore (9/29/2006 11:11 p.m.)
- I think.... Rebecka (9/30/2006 1:21 a.m.)
Interesting parallel! nfm Lynn (9/29/2006 1:02 p.m.)

Looking for Colonel Brandon's good points Pennie (9/29/2006 2:07 a.m.)

I agree with you, Pennie. Reeba (9/29/2006 1:35 p.m.)
- Quiet charm Pennie (10/3/2006 1:37 a.m.)
Willoughby's opinion of the Colonel LouAnn (9/29/2006 1:22 p.m.)

Shy vs. reserved Anne L (9/28/2006 10:02 p.m.)

I think Edward is taken... Reeba (10/1/2006 10:45 a.m.)
- I wonder Ann2 (10/7/2006 6:25 p.m.)
wondering the same thing! Mandy D (9/30/2006 11:28 p.m.)
- Edward's guilt? Karinna A. (10/1/2006 11:39 a.m.)
  - specific to Edward Mandy D (10/1/2006 9:07 p.m.)

Is Elinor being honest... Reeba (9/28/2006 3:49 p.m.)

I wondered about that myself . . . Mary Anne (9/28/2006 9:58 p.m.)
- I agree Rachel "Rayjay" S (9/29/2006 11:33 a.m.)
  - Do you think that Willoughby parting... Lynn (9/29/2006 1:01 p.m.)
    - I'm sure it must have Ann2 (9/30/2006 1:12 p.m.)

Interesting little speech by Mrs. Dashwood Barbara (9/28/2006 2:59 p.m.)

How very apt! Ann2 (9/28/2006 4:26 p.m.)

Willoughby's departure Barbara (9/28/2006 2:55 p.m.)

Annoying Mrs. Dashwood. Elinor is definitely more.. Reeba (9/28/2006 3:31 p.m.)
- Mrs. D’s last straw—Elinor’s doubt Robbin (9/28/2006 5:12 p.m.)
  - I would think that to be... Reeba (9/29/2006 3:46 p.m.)
    - Yes, agree Mrs. Dashwood is annoying me greatly. :D nfm Robbin (9/29/2006 6:05 p.m.)
  - Elinor 's observations & Mrs Dashwood. Mandy N (9/29/2006 11:30 a.m.)
    - Elinor’s Burden Robbin (9/29/2006 2:44 p.m.)

Queen Mab Barbara (9/27/2006 11:12 p.m.)

Other Queen Mab's teri-mc (9/28/2006 12:54 p.m.)
- More Mab Maisy (9/28/2006 7:44 p.m.)
- Drayton Barbara (9/28/2006 1:00 p.m.)
  - Okay--a short note and a link Barbara (9/28/2006 10:47 p.m.)
    - Sometimes, it's not a question of whether JA read it... Delories (9/29/2006 2:46 a.m.)
Dream imagery.... Mandy N (9/28/2006 1:04 a.m.)
- Inducing young women into folly Delories (9/28/2006 2:55 a.m.)
  - Exactly calculated Barbara (9/28/2006 10:22 a.m.)
    - Exactly calculated.....hmmm Jan (9/29/2006 12:54 p.m.)
      - No, you're not doing him an injustice, imo... nfm Delories (9/30/2006 3:42 a.m.)
    - Excellent points--all. You gals are great! Robbin (9/28/2006 11:14 a.m.)
    - Yes and this has turned... Moni (9/28/2006 11:08 a.m.)

Marianne's redeeming feature Tracy W (9/27/2006 9:14 p.m.)

There's no doubt... Heidi M. (9/27/2006 11:51 p.m.)

Mrs. Jennings' gossip Barbara (9/27/2006 12:53 p.m.)

At this stage Rae (9/27/2006 1:01 p.m.)
- What it does show about her Jan (9/27/2006 6:37 p.m.)
  - Oh, Mrs Jennings ! Mandy N (9/28/2006 5:28 a.m.)

Geography question--downs Barbara (9/27/2006 11:13 a.m.)

Downs are up Jan (9/27/2006 10:05 p.m.)
- Ah! Barbara (9/27/2006 10:46 p.m.)
The Downs? Ann2 (9/27/2006 2:00 p.m.)

What did they miss at Whitwell? Jan (9/27/2006 4:32 a.m.)

Thank you, Jan. Reeba (9/29/2006 3:57 a.m.)
What a lovely outing... Mandy N (9/29/2006 3:09 a.m.)
Thank you, Ugbrooke is lovely and great info. nfm :D Robbin (9/27/2006 6:41 a.m.)

Colonel Brandon's natural daughter Barbara (9/27/2006 1:16 a.m.)

Here's another secret, Barbara! nfm Heidi S (9/27/2006 7:53 p.m.)
Lady M's changing the subject--or not Heidi S (9/27/2006 7:52 p.m.)
Elinor's reaction of "Indeed!" Tom P2 (9/27/2006 5:38 p.m.)
- The mystery lady Tina T (9/28/2006 2:52 p.m.)
  - Good point Barbara (9/28/2006 3:00 p.m.)
- Probably true Barbara (9/27/2006 6:57 p.m.)
Is the key thing Rae (9/27/2006 3:26 a.m.)
- Elinor's sensible reflections - maybe Ann2 (9/27/2006 10:21 a.m.)
  - I completely agree with you-NFM Heidi M. (9/27/2006 10:37 a.m.)
    - So do I *nfm* Delories (9/27/2006 10:52 a.m.)

Scary party! ;D Robbin (9/26/2006 11:55 p.m.)

I thought it had to do with the sailing Barbara (9/27/2006 11:02 a.m.)
Perhaps carriages were less safe in the wet? nfm Tom P2 (9/27/2006 5:02 a.m.)

Elinor's sensibilities Heidi M. (9/26/2006 6:00 p.m.)

you are not the only one teri-mc (9/27/2006 1:17 p.m.)
- SUTH-Slap Upside The Head? Heidi M. (9/27/2006 6:12 p.m.)
Elinor's feelings Rae (9/27/2006 9:29 a.m.)

Marianne's reactions Bryndl (9/26/2006 2:33 p.m.)

Margaret's presence BarbarB (9/25/2006 10:59 p.m.)

The importance of secrets in S&S Heidi S (9/26/2006 7:14 p.m.)
- Secrets and deception Barbara (9/26/2006 8:28 p.m.)
  - I am looking forward to your forthcoming post! nfm Heidi S (9/27/2006 5:51 p.m.)
Another example of importance of secondary characters Delories (9/26/2006 11:24 a.m.)
- In this they are both Ann2 (9/26/2006 6:20 p.m.)
  - Taking after her father Maisy (9/27/2006 4:46 p.m.)
  - Yes, good point Delories (9/27/2006 4:02 a.m.)
Wonderful insight, BarbaraB :) Reeba (9/26/2006 10:52 a.m.)

Marianne resolved to undervalue Brandon's merits Barbara (9/25/2006 2:38 p.m.)

Not just undervalues, deliberately ignores Laurel (9/25/2006 9:05 p.m.)
- She did not think better of Edward Ann2 (9/26/2006 6:11 p.m.)
Marianne needs a SUTH! Mary Anne (9/25/2006 7:59 p.m.)
- Marianne being a parrot Pennie (9/29/2006 1:43 a.m.)
- She sure does Barbara (9/25/2006 8:57 p.m.)
  - Oh, yes, it's all very SUTH-worthy on Marianne's part... Delories (9/26/2006 11:26 a.m.)
His regard Heidi M. (9/25/2006 6:56 p.m.)
- I think Elinor takes so long.... Reeba (9/26/2006 10:34 a.m.)
  - Maybe... Heidi M. (9/26/2006 12:58 p.m.)
- But regard aside... Barbara (9/25/2006 9:00 p.m.)
  - Not only is he... Rae (9/26/2006 1:39 p.m.)
    - Well... Barbara (9/26/2006 2:19 p.m.)
      - Although... Rae (9/26/2006 3:32 p.m.)
  - I agree Heidi M. (9/26/2006 12:54 p.m.)
    - "It really paints Marianne in a bad light" Maisy (9/26/2006 2:33 p.m.)
hasty judgement Heidi S (9/25/2006 4:30 p.m.)

Willoughby resolved to undervalue Brandon's merits Barbara (9/25/2006 2:28 p.m.)

Willoughby's remarks.... Mandy N (9/27/2006 3:18 p.m.)
- Nabobs, gold mohrs, palanquins :) Reeba (9/27/2006 3:46 p.m.)
- Good theories Barbara (9/27/2006 3:27 p.m.)
Willoughby… Robbin (9/26/2006 11:42 p.m.)
- An ugly nature Mary Anne (9/27/2006 8:21 a.m.)
  - Above post is "spoileresque", for 1st-time readers *nfm Delories (9/27/2006 10:54 a.m.)
    - Oops! Sorry about that! nfm Mary Anne (9/27/2006 7:36 p.m.)
Another example of undermining Brandon... Reeba (9/26/2006 4:36 p.m.)
- They are right? Barbara (9/26/2006 5:02 p.m.)
  - Indeed! Ann2 (9/26/2006 5:38 p.m.)
  - I mean that - they are right... Reeba (9/26/2006 5:16 p.m.)
Both Marianne and Willoughby Farah-Naz (9/26/2006 7:26 a.m.)
Mustn't give spoilers, but can we revisit this in week 4? nfm Tom P2 (9/26/2006 12:09 a.m.)
Smacks of ugly envy Ann2 (9/25/2006 4:41 p.m.)
- Good connection! Barbara (9/25/2006 4:48 p.m.)
  - Do you think... Lynn (9/25/2006 6:43 p.m.)
    - Brilliant connection Rae (9/26/2006 4:51 a.m.)
      - Triple his income Barbara (9/26/2006 10:27 a.m.)
    - I don't think so Barbara (9/25/2006 7:08 p.m.)
'gold mohars' does mean Reeba (9/25/2006 4:17 p.m.)
Now that you bring it up Marilynn (9/25/2006 3:04 p.m.)

JA's way with words teri-mc (9/25/2006 1:37 p.m.)

'His name was good', Mandy N (9/28/2006 9:36 a.m.)
- The Particular Spirit of Marianne Robbin (9/28/2006 3:22 p.m.)
  - Willoughby's name Maisy (9/28/2006 7:18 p.m.)
    - Clement Willoughby Barbara (9/28/2006 8:12 p.m.)
      - Thanks again! nfm :D Robbin (9/29/2006 7:41 a.m.)
      - Thanks! -nfm Maisy (9/29/2006 6:40 a.m.)
My personal opinion Mary Ellen (9/26/2006 1:51 p.m.)
- But... Barbara (9/26/2006 2:21 p.m.)
  - Is height a beauty standard? Mary Ellen (9/27/2006 6:22 p.m.)
    - I don't think it's that ambiguous Barbara (9/28/2006 5:14 p.m.)
      - Great points, Barbara Maisy (9/28/2006 6:48 p.m.)
    - I don't infer so; who's taller; plumpness Tom P2 (9/28/2006 3:31 a.m.)
L&T: What was considered a "correct" form? Line (9/25/2006 7:15 p.m.)
- I read this as Marianne being taller than Elinor Barbara (9/25/2006 8:52 p.m.)
  - Proper height: "a running joke in JA's fiction" Maisy (9/26/2006 1:40 p.m.)
    - Which sister is taller? Maisy (9/26/2006 1:52 p.m.)
      - Does the "in" make a difference?   Ann2 (9/26/2006 5:55 p.m.)
        
        Not only to a foreign ear :-)   Barbara (9/26/2006 8:26 p.m.)
        
        Punctuation   Maisy (9/27/2006 6:58 a.m.)
  - That's how I read it Rae (9/26/2006 9:37 a.m.)
  - Oh! Amy Marie (9/26/2006 7:12 a.m.)

"Setting one's cap" Lynn (9/25/2006 9:22 a.m.)

Putting on your best hat Barbara (9/25/2006 7:15 p.m.)
Showing favouritism... Mandy N (9/25/2006 11:03 a.m.)

Admiring Pope 'no more than is proper' Barbara (9/24/2006 6:39 p.m.)

Marianne's literary taste polarised in adaptations Tom P2 (9/25/2006 11:54 p.m.)
- Small clarification Laraine (9/26/2006 1:37 p.m.)
Those Augustans Laraine (9/25/2006 5:18 p.m.)
- Thank you! Barbara (9/25/2006 5:21 p.m.)
  - But Pope can also be VERY funny! Delories (9/26/2006 11:33 a.m.)
Elinor (and JA) are poking gentle fun... Delories (9/25/2006 4:05 a.m.)

The absoluteness of Marianne's opinions Barbara (9/24/2006 3:13 p.m.)

I am so moved by Brandon's thoughts Ann2 (9/25/2006 4:23 p.m.)
With these absolute ... Reeba (9/25/2006 12:32 p.m.)
- Did anyone say 'Public Display of Affection'? Pennie (9/29/2006 2:11 a.m.)

Interesting couple of sentences. Reeba (9/24/2006 12:15 p.m.)

Interesting… Robbin (9/24/2006 9:51 p.m.)
- Yes, Robbin. That's what I mean :) Reeba (9/25/2006 9:25 a.m.)
  - Lumping Elinor & Lady Middleton together? (long) ;D Robbin (9/25/2006 6:16 p.m.)
    - LOL!! Robbin, of course .... Reeba (9/26/2006 10:45 a.m.)
    - A bit of a ramble, but some emerging theories... Rae (9/26/2006 5:17 a.m.)
      - Another suggestion for... Reeba (9/26/2006 10:57 a.m.)
      - Oh! Ramble away... Robbin (9/26/2006 7:33 a.m.)

L&T question. Reeba (9/24/2006 9:23 a.m.)

I read parties on the water as being on a lake or a river Tracy W (9/24/2006 6:40 p.m.)
Covert is... Barbara (9/24/2006 10:10 a.m.)
- Thanks, Barbara nfm Reeba (9/24/2006 12:16 p.m.)

Sir John and Willoughby James S. (9/23/2006 3:04 p.m.)

Making conquests Barbara (9/23/2006 4:33 p.m.)
JA's Minor Characters James S. (9/23/2006 3:58 p.m.)
- The exception... Rae (9/24/2006 3:47 p.m.)
  - What's the kicking? Tracy W (9/24/2006 6:47 p.m.)
    - I think you put it more kindly than I had read it Rae (9/25/2006 1:20 p.m.)
      - I read it like you did   Barbara (9/25/2006 2:11 p.m.)
        
        I still read it like that   Rae (9/25/2006 2:55 p.m.)
        
        Indeed, I also read it like that   Tracy W (9/25/2006 4:51 p.m.)
      - That's one of my favourite things about a GR... Delories (9/25/2006 1:38 p.m.)
Sir John's schemes Tina T (9/23/2006 3:17 p.m.)
- I agree, and maybe he thinks Elinor suit him better? Therése (9/24/2006 5:47 a.m.)
  - I don't think Sir John thinks of things like that Barbara (9/24/2006 10:03 a.m.)
- 'Brandon is quite smitten' Barbara (9/23/2006 3:54 p.m.)
  - Oh! And an addition from my notes! Barbara (9/23/2006 4:21 p.m.)
    - I just remembered a line from CH: 10... Reeba (9/24/2006 9:10 a.m.)
      - Yes, but this would be later... Barbara (9/24/2006 10:08 a.m.)
    - Brandon and Sir John Mary Anne (9/23/2006 7:48 p.m.)
      - Probably Barbara (9/23/2006 9:32 p.m.)
    - Ummm! Nice picture :) Reeba (9/23/2006 5:12 p.m.)
      - yes--their raillery is it! LouAnn (9/23/2006 7:24 p.m.)

The Dashwoods' neighbours Barbara (9/23/2006 1:06 a.m.)

Was Mrs. Dashwood doing her daughters a disservice? Frances Anne (9/24/2006 9:56 p.m.)
- Sir John to the rescue! Robbin (9/24/2006 11:29 p.m.)
Meaning of "There were but few who could be so classed" Tom P2 (9/23/2006 4:25 a.m.)
- I think so too Jan (9/23/2006 5:52 a.m.)
  - I agree... Moni (9/23/2006 2:27 p.m.)
    - I believe that... Lynn (9/24/2006 12:00 p.m.)
    - Not that I've ever heard of... Tracy W (9/23/2006 4:28 p.m.)
      - Austenuations, please Barbara (9/24/2006 1:37 p.m.)
      - Oops   BarbaraB (9/23/2006 6:27 p.m.)
        
        Remarriage prospect for Mrs Dashwood   Tom P2 (9/25/2006 10:40 p.m.)
        
        Not really   Barbara (9/25/2006 11:31 p.m.)
        
        You are endeavouring to disarm me by reason :-) nfm   Tom P2 (9/26/2006 1:11 a.m.)
        
        The Anglican regency wedding service...   Tracy W (9/24/2006 7:00 p.m.)
      - Banish the thouht--- BarbaraB (9/23/2006 6:14 p.m.)

Marianne's modesty Barbara (9/23/2006 12:45 a.m.)

I noticed this too Melissa G (9/24/2006 3:33 a.m.)
- I agree. *nfm Therése (9/24/2006 4:42 a.m.)
Being swept up in a man's arms! Tina T (9/23/2006 3:32 p.m.)
Confusion Yvonne (9/23/2006 6:49 a.m.)
- I would think so too, because... Reeba (9/23/2006 8:39 a.m.)

Marianne and Margaret Barbara (9/23/2006 12:36 a.m.)

Yes, this contrast... Moni (9/25/2006 10:39 a.m.)
Muddled... Robbin (9/23/2006 4:55 p.m.)
- S&S2 Margaret's reversal of attitude toward running Tom P2 (9/25/2006 10:25 p.m.)
  - LOL, it is quite fitting too as Margaret is like Marianne! :D Robbin (9/26/2006 12:09 a.m.)
- I took it to mean... Barbara (9/23/2006 5:18 p.m.)
  - Is it not also a perfect way Ann2 (9/24/2006 11:27 a.m.)
Yes... BarbaraB (9/23/2006 12:38 p.m.)
- "real impropriety" Maisy (9/24/2006 3:04 p.m.)
- Margaret for Marianne CarolB (9/23/2006 1:10 p.m.)

The hero of her favourite story Barbara (9/23/2006 12:30 a.m.)

I laughed when I read this passage Laurel (9/23/2006 9:22 a.m.)
Wow, probably JeannetteF (9/23/2006 2:01 a.m.)
- Marianne's preserver - enter Willoughby! Lovely passage. Reeba (9/23/2006 10:57 a.m.)
  - Saying what Marianne wants to hear Pennie (9/29/2006 12:28 a.m.)
  - Marieanne's admirer. :) Mandy N (9/27/2006 12:02 p.m.)
  - "Reading Willoughby" Maisy (9/25/2006 6:34 a.m.)
    - Me too Melissa (9/25/2006 6:37 a.m.)
  - LOL....Too True BarbaraB (9/23/2006 11:44 a.m.)
    - The white steed--and Adonis in hunting gear! Barbara (9/23/2006 5:13 p.m.)
      - Most amusing :) thanks for sharing! *nfm Therése (9/24/2006 4:56 a.m.)
      - Wow... BarbaraB (9/23/2006 5:55 p.m.)
      - "Margaret squeals" Mary Anne (9/23/2006 5:37 p.m.)

Self control Barbara (9/22/2006 3:47 p.m.)

Devonshire Update Jan (9/22/2006 1:38 p.m.)

Focus : Romanticism & rusticicity. Mandy N (9/25/2006 12:29 p.m.)
- Lovely and interesting post Mandy! Thanks! NFM :D Robbin (9/26/2006 12:06 a.m.)
- Thank you, Mandy. Reeba (9/25/2006 1:13 p.m.)
Jan, these are truly delightful! Thank you!!! (nfm) Elizabeth Sycamore (9/23/2006 7:54 p.m.)
Lovely, thank you, must visit nfm JeannetteF (9/23/2006 2:19 a.m.)
So lovely, thanks nfm BarbaraB (9/23/2006 12:37 a.m.)
You have given us a treasure... Ashley B (9/22/2006 5:55 p.m.)
Jan... Robbin (9/22/2006 5:35 p.m.)
Thanks Jan, these are lovely. nfm Rae (9/22/2006 4:14 p.m.)
*sigh* Reeba (9/22/2006 3:38 p.m.)
Lovely! Thank you, Jan [nfm] Maisy (9/22/2006 2:14 p.m.)

Lady Middleton Rae (9/21/2006 5:11 p.m.)

LM - character not motherhood drives coldness… Robbin (9/23/2006 12:08 p.m.)
- But why does one not mind.. Reeba (9/23/2006 3:14 p.m.)
  - Lady Middleton, A cold fish… Robbin (9/23/2006 5:58 p.m.)
    - Robbin and Tina Maisy (9/24/2006 12:25 p.m.)
      - Great points... Robbin (9/24/2006 2:58 p.m.)
    - I happily agree to disagree ;) Robbin. Reeba (9/23/2006 6:18 p.m.)
  - Coldness = lack of interest Tina T (9/23/2006 3:44 p.m.)
    - 'Insipidity'... Mandy N (9/27/2006 9:49 a.m.)
    - I agree Tina--great word picture! nfm :D Robbin (9/23/2006 5:59 p.m.)
- Well Said BarbaraB (9/23/2006 12:43 p.m.)
I agree 100%. Reeba (9/22/2006 1:46 p.m.)
- clues Bryndl (9/22/2006 1:56 p.m.)
Of course! Ingunn V (9/22/2006 4:44 a.m.)
Buther children weren't all that small Therése (9/22/2006 2:25 a.m.)
- Somewhat inclined... BarbaraB (9/23/2006 12:24 a.m.)
  - Was there " a-child-should-be-seen-and-not-heard philosophy& Tracy W (9/23/2006 4:17 p.m.)
    - Children BarbarB (9/24/2006 7:26 p.m.)
      - I think I recall what you may be referring to Tracy W (9/25/2006 12:53 a.m.)
        
        I do believe you're right BarbarB (9/25/2006 9:45 p.m.)
- Four under seven Rae (9/22/2006 4:43 a.m.)
  - Child-centeredness Line (9/22/2006 8:56 p.m.)
    - There's a great difference in... Reeba (9/23/2006 6:46 a.m.)
    - If I may hazard a guess Karinna A. (9/22/2006 11:03 p.m.)
      - The meaning of 'cold' seems... Reeba (9/23/2006 5:55 a.m.)
Interesting Point Pennie (9/21/2006 9:21 p.m.)
Oh dear... Lynn (9/21/2006 8:26 p.m.)

Jointure and primogeniture Barbara (9/21/2006 2:01 a.m.)

Exactly Pennie (9/21/2006 3:06 a.m.)
- The prospect of bankruptcy had nothing to do with it;-) JulieW (9/21/2006 10:01 a.m.)
  - Misunderstood Pennie (9/22/2006 1:37 a.m.)
  - primogeniture in the Jennings family Barbara (9/21/2006 10:19 a.m.)
    - There is an estate JulieW (9/21/2006 10:25 a.m.)
      - No son   Barbara (9/21/2006 11:12 a.m.)
        
        As I understood it   JulieW (9/21/2006 11:23 a.m.)
        
        Mrs Jennings' ample jointure.   Mandy N (9/21/2006 1:56 p.m.)
        
        I wondered this too   Bryndl (9/22/2006 1:59 p.m.)
        
        *giggle*   Tina T (9/21/2006 4:25 p.m.)
        
        Not at all., Tina. That was what I thought...   Reeba (9/21/2006 4:46 p.m.)
        
        You're not alone!   Delories (9/22/2006 3:23 a.m.)
        
        Ah, that's what JA meant . ;) (nfm)   Mandy N (9/22/2006 8:17 a.m.)

Some musings on age differences. Barbara (9/21/2006 1:43 a.m.)

Second marriages Bryndl (9/22/2006 1:51 p.m.)
Men older than women is very common Tracy W (9/21/2006 6:21 p.m.)
Supporting a family teri-mc (9/21/2006 3:11 p.m.)
- I think so too. Barbara (9/21/2006 3:30 p.m.)
  - I am also wondering about... Reeba (9/21/2006 4:36 p.m.)
    - Sir John may have said so Barbara (9/21/2006 4:47 p.m.)
This was fascinating reading... Moni (9/21/2006 10:52 a.m.)
I was surprised Lynn (9/21/2006 9:13 a.m.)
- No belief about women in their late twenties Tracy W (9/21/2006 6:02 p.m.)
  - life expectancy susanp (9/22/2006 12:12 p.m.)
    - I think JA may have regarded early marriage... Tracy W (9/23/2006 4:41 p.m.)

A reflection on Marianne that would not be at all to her taste Tracy W (9/20/2006 5:15 p.m.)

Such behavior Anne L (9/20/2006 11:36 p.m.)
Marianne's response Amanda McG (9/20/2006 9:52 p.m.)
- Difference of intent Jennifer Ellen (9/21/2006 11:00 p.m.)
Well, you know what they say... Heidi M. (9/20/2006 6:47 p.m.)

Devonshire Jan (9/20/2006 5:21 a.m.)

Very grateful for this, Jan Ann2 (9/24/2006 12:53 p.m.)
Magnificent!;-) (nfm) Moni (9/20/2006 10:45 p.m.)
Thank you *SSOOOOOOO* much for this! (nfm) Barbara (9/20/2006 7:14 p.m.)
How beautiful Tracy W (9/20/2006 5:18 p.m.)
Gorgeous, Jan! Absolutely gorgeous! Elizabeth Sycamore (9/20/2006 3:57 p.m.)
Your website is really beautiful,Jan JulieW (9/20/2006 10:29 a.m.)
Very picturesque. Mandy N (9/20/2006 9:30 a.m.)
Thank you Jan! What a lovely... Reeba (9/20/2006 8:49 a.m.)
Wonderful! Robbin (9/20/2006 7:16 a.m.)

Colonel Brandon as Sir John's 'particular friend'. Barbara (9/19/2006 9:07 p.m.)

Perception Bryndl (9/20/2006 1:58 p.m.)
- Sir John realises Brandon is subdued Pennie (9/20/2006 9:12 p.m.)
- I agree (nfm) Elizabeth E H (9/20/2006 3:35 p.m.)
Contrasting temperments, some common interests. Mandy N (9/20/2006 1:08 p.m.)
- Needing to get out Mary Anne (9/20/2006 7:46 p.m.)
- I agree Therése (9/20/2006 4:25 p.m.)
I am in complete agreement Marilynn (9/20/2006 9:10 a.m.)
One tends to desire what the other one lacks Jen K (9/19/2006 10:24 p.m.)
They complement each other well Pennie (9/19/2006 9:56 p.m.)
- That was me ;-) Barbara (9/19/2006 11:48 p.m.)

The "insatiable appetite of fifteen" Barbara (9/19/2006 8:57 p.m.)

Another aspect of being 15 Laraine (9/20/2006 12:30 p.m.)
I would agree... Moni (9/20/2006 6:37 a.m.)
- Oh, I so agree Rae (9/20/2006 5:52 p.m.)
  - Very much so Barbara (9/20/2006 7:16 p.m.)
I've always taken this to mean... Deborah d'Bajor (9/20/2006 4:43 a.m.)
- Now I feel a fool Farah-Naz (9/20/2006 11:42 a.m.)
  - Oh, don't! Lisa Dalrymple (9/20/2006 12:03 p.m.)
The novelty Tina T (9/20/2006 12:48 a.m.)

More on taste--or the lack thereof Barbara (9/19/2006 8:53 p.m.)

I think, the taste... Reeba (9/20/2006 9:19 a.m.)
- Good point... Moni (9/20/2006 12:32 p.m.)
  - And also the word 'cold'. Reeba (9/20/2006 3:33 p.m.)
    - Cold Barbara (9/20/2006 5:29 p.m.)
      - Cold *and* unfeeling... Reeba (9/20/2006 5:53 p.m.)
- Lady Middleton’s influence… Robbin (9/20/2006 11:14 a.m.)
  - Quite possible that .. Reeba (9/20/2006 3:27 p.m.)
    - Yes… Robbin (9/21/2006 8:22 a.m.)
- Expectation Barbara (9/20/2006 10:19 a.m.)
Talent & Taste Again :D Robbin (9/19/2006 11:54 p.m.)
- Another example of Marianne's 'rules' Pennie (9/20/2006 9:03 p.m.)
  - I'm not sure I follow you Tracy W (9/21/2006 12:42 a.m.)
    - I think we agree in some parts... Pennie (9/21/2006 3:02 a.m.)
- I think we are supposed to see a lack Tracy W (9/20/2006 5:07 p.m.)
  - Think differently—what an idea… ;D Robbin (9/21/2006 9:22 a.m.)
    - I agree Sir John is a very kind man Tracy W (9/21/2006 5:47 p.m.)
  - Reminder re: group read guidelines Barbara (9/20/2006 7:55 p.m.)
    - I was not intending to criticise any person, my apologies (nfm) Tracy W (9/20/2006 8:27 p.m.)
Talent and Taste Jen K (9/19/2006 10:16 p.m.)
I always read that passage... Pennie (9/19/2006 9:21 p.m.)
- I agree on that, well said. nfm. Therése (9/20/2006 2:02 p.m.)

The 'defective' cottage Barbara (9/19/2006 10:28 a.m.)

On second thought I have more questions on the cottage. Therése (9/20/2006 5:01 p.m.)
- Drawing=withdrawing Barbara (9/20/2006 5:31 p.m.)
On the subject of the cottage Therése (9/20/2006 1:32 p.m.)
- "Good repair" JulieW (9/20/2006 1:44 p.m.)
  - I see. Thank you for explaining. *nfm* Therése (9/20/2006 2:03 p.m.)
Would Sir John help with alterations? Laraine (9/20/2006 9:14 a.m.)
- The stairs Barbara (9/20/2006 10:23 a.m.)
Mrs. Dashwood's dreams about the cottage.... Reeba (9/20/2006 9:04 a.m.)
- Oh my, poor Marianne ;) *nfm. Therése (9/20/2006 5:05 p.m.)
Chawton Cottage Pennie (9/19/2006 8:52 p.m.)
- Larger Barbara (9/19/2006 9:55 p.m.)
  - Chawton's size Pennie (9/19/2006 10:00 p.m.)
Yes, sixteen feet square means 16'x16' Tom P2 (9/19/2006 7:18 p.m.)
Garrets are attics JulieW (9/19/2006 10:41 a.m.)
- Garrets Heidi S (9/19/2006 4:57 p.m.)

Some comfort perhaps? Jan (9/19/2006 8:18 a.m.)

Priceless Debra Mc (9/19/2006 2:21 p.m.)
- Well that depends... Pennie (9/19/2006 8:57 p.m.)
I think it has been accepted JulieW (9/19/2006 9:32 a.m.)
- I found something.. Jan (9/19/2006 11:39 a.m.)
  - Interesting angle, Jan Maisy (9/19/2006 5:31 p.m.)
I don't know the ... Reeba (9/19/2006 8:58 a.m.)
- Thanks Reeba but I meant in addition Jan (9/19/2006 9:29 a.m.)
  - But do they envisage? Mary Ellen (9/19/2006 11:26 a.m.)

Intro to Col Brandon - The Overshadowed Colonel Pennie (9/19/2006 3:02 a.m.)

Peering among the shadows Mary Anne (9/20/2006 8:11 a.m.)
- That's exactly what I think. Reeba (9/20/2006 9:48 a.m.)
  - that´s the "problem" with Brandon Nuria (9/20/2006 12:54 p.m.)
    - Thanks for your thoughts Pennie (9/20/2006 8:45 p.m.)
      - Flushed cheek and hollow eyed Col. :D Reeba (9/21/2006 4:09 p.m.)
His flannel waistcoat Barbara (9/19/2006 5:28 p.m.)
- What I find very interesting *and* charming is... Reeba (9/20/2006 4:28 p.m.)
  - Also Agree nfm BarbaraB (9/21/2006 9:20 p.m.)
  - I agree completely--well put! Ahhhh Col Brandon! nfm :D Robbin (9/21/2006 8:28 a.m.)
- Ah....memories...of Darcy Undressing....... JulieW (9/20/2006 10:49 a.m.)
  - To be sure Barbara (9/20/2006 12:36 p.m.)
    - Yes JulieW (9/20/2006 1:38 p.m.)
      - Elusive evidence   Barbara (9/20/2006 2:53 p.m.)
        
        The reason why the col wore a flannel jacket...   Reeba (9/21/2006 3:24 p.m.)
        
        Hmm......   JulieW (9/20/2006 4:12 p.m.)
        
        Not universally   Barbara (9/20/2006 5:22 p.m.)
        
        I'm sorry, Barbara   JulieW (9/21/2006 9:12 a.m.)
        
        Not the most obvious!!!   Barbara (9/21/2006 10:36 a.m.)
    - I daresay Marilynn (9/20/2006 1:23 p.m.)
- Fwoarr for a rugged Colonel Pennie (9/19/2006 8:45 p.m.)
  - *snuggling up to flannel waistcoat* Mary Anne (9/20/2006 8:00 a.m.)
- So... Robbin (9/19/2006 6:02 p.m.)
- LOL, love it! -nfm :-D Maisy (9/19/2006 5:50 p.m.)

You really are not engaged? Barbara (9/19/2006 12:29 a.m.)

Perhaps because they are in mourning? Louise H (9/20/2006 6:44 p.m.)
They know her, but Nuria (9/20/2006 2:38 a.m.)
imagination teri-mc (9/19/2006 2:33 p.m.)

Marianne's "rules" Barbara (9/19/2006 12:06 a.m.)

Yet another Barbara (9/21/2006 1:46 a.m.)
And she breaks them all! Caroline (9/19/2006 9:39 a.m.)
Another one. Reeba (9/19/2006 9:03 a.m.)
One more ;-) Deborah d'Bajor (9/19/2006 4:59 a.m.)
emotions Tina T (9/19/2006 2:47 a.m.)
Her "rules of engagement" - how appropriate! (nfm) Ashley B (9/19/2006 1:39 a.m.)
One more... Robbin (9/19/2006 1:07 a.m.)

Another wonderful gem of a passage in CH 5... Reeba (9/18/2006 6:06 p.m.)

Cowper and sensibility. Mandy N (9/18/2006 11:49 p.m.)
Driven wild by Cowper Barbara (9/18/2006 8:41 p.m.)
- Thank you for this Pennie (9/18/2006 10:48 p.m.)
  - Maybe an even better example Barbara (9/19/2006 12:41 a.m.)
    - Phew!! I have escaped.. Reeba (9/19/2006 9:01 a.m.)
    - Oh Barbara, we are clearly devoid of proper taste... Pennie (9/19/2006 1:54 a.m.)

Carriage but no horses? Tracy W (9/18/2006 5:17 p.m.)

cost and character Amanda McG (9/19/2006 10:24 a.m.)
- Oh, yes, Marianne's wild sensibility at... Reeba (9/19/2006 11:39 a.m.)
  - :) nfm BarbaraB (9/21/2006 9:17 p.m.)
  - A poet in our midst . ;) (nfm) Mandy N (9/20/2006 7:57 a.m.)
  - Fun! Well done, Reeba! -nfm :-) Maisy (9/19/2006 6:55 p.m.)
  - IMO JA would love this Reeba! Wonderful! nfm Jan (9/19/2006 4:13 p.m.)
  - OMG! This is too funny! (LOL while clutching tummy) NFM Mona M (9/19/2006 4:08 p.m.)
  - ROTFLOL, Reeba!!! (nfm) Elizabeth Sycamore (9/19/2006 3:42 p.m.)
  - Precisely what I had in mind! nfm Amanda McG (9/19/2006 3:20 p.m.)
  - LOL ~ snort~ *nfm* Lisa Dalrymple (9/19/2006 12:19 p.m.)
More convenient to keep the carraige,I would think. JulieW (9/19/2006 5:35 a.m.)
- Thank you Julie W, and everyone else for the explanations (nfm) Tracy W (9/19/2006 5:03 p.m.)
Carriages were more expensive than you think. Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 8:54 p.m.)
Illustrates Mrs. Dashwood's character a bit IMO... Robbin (9/18/2006 5:59 p.m.)
- The cost of hiring a post chaise & post horses Maisy (9/19/2006 6:54 p.m.)
  - The cost of keeping a carraige JulieW (9/20/2006 11:15 a.m.)
- Here's an old post of mine JulieW (9/19/2006 7:26 a.m.)
  - Wonderful - Ann2 (9/24/2006 12:58 p.m.)
  - Very helpful indeed! :D Robbin (9/19/2006 7:49 a.m.)
- Post carriage Maisy (9/18/2006 6:52 p.m.)
  - There was a thriving JulieW (9/19/2006 6:02 a.m.)
    - Yes! Thanks - great stuff! -nfm Maisy (9/19/2006 6:49 a.m.)
    - Here's the pictures JulieW (9/19/2006 6:45 a.m.)
      - Perhaps the horse is also...   Reeba (9/19/2006 9:08 a.m.)
        
        Yes, he is   JulieW (9/19/2006 9:49 a.m.)
        
        Would love to, Thanks Julie :) nfm   Reeba (9/19/2006 10:09 a.m.)
      - Thanks for info & Tattersall pictures-- very neat ! Mandy N (9/19/2006 8:19 a.m.)
      - Thanks, great info and pictures--neat IMO! nfm :D Robbin (9/19/2006 7:30 a.m.)
  - Status Barbara (9/19/2006 12:47 a.m.)
  - Thanks, great info. nfm :D Robbin (9/18/2006 11:07 p.m.)
You don't have to feed a carriage ;o) Maisy (9/18/2006 5:48 p.m.)

The funny bits Anne L (9/18/2006 5:04 p.m.)

Ageist jokes Pennie (9/18/2006 10:57 p.m.)
Couple of funny lines CH 1-4 Reeba (9/18/2006 5:21 p.m.)
- Ch 1 Mona M (9/20/2006 11:55 a.m.)

The Servants Deborah d'Bajor (9/18/2006 11:51 a.m.)

How necessary is a man? Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 9:01 p.m.)
- Perhaps very necessary to Mrs Dashwood Jan (9/19/2006 6:15 a.m.)
  - I agree,Jan JulieW (9/19/2006 6:39 a.m.)
- That's a loaded question! ;-) nfm Anne L (9/18/2006 11:25 p.m.)
- Doesn't sound like it Tracy W (9/18/2006 9:39 p.m.)
  - Here's a contemporary JulieW (9/19/2006 7:14 a.m.)
  - But in most cases Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 11:17 p.m.)
    - Gentle reminder Barbara (9/18/2006 11:30 p.m.)
Servants' duties Maisy (9/18/2006 7:49 p.m.)
- Domestic tasks & dining out. Mandy N (9/21/2006 12:57 p.m.)
  - Good Observation nfm BarbaraB (9/21/2006 9:14 p.m.)
The mention in chapter 5 of the servants Tracy W (9/18/2006 5:15 p.m.)
- Perhaps a bit of both? Delories (9/19/2006 2:22 a.m.)
Ooops -My apologies, Deborah! JulieW (9/18/2006 3:44 p.m.)
- Continuity of Servants Pennie (9/18/2006 11:04 p.m.)
  - Exactly... JulieW (9/19/2006 4:34 a.m.)
- And..... JulieW (9/18/2006 3:46 p.m.)

A Lady's Imagination is very rapid... Deborah d'Bajor (9/18/2006 5:30 a.m.)

Self-deception, Mrs. D & Marianne Robbin (9/19/2006 6:28 p.m.)

Chapter 2 - pure genius! Deborah d'Bajor (9/18/2006 5:25 a.m.)

I love this part too! Rachel "Rayjay" S (9/21/2006 9:44 p.m.)
Evil genuis... Mandy N (9/18/2006 11:09 a.m.)
- Sir John vs. John Elizabeth Sycamore (9/18/2006 9:46 p.m.)
Hope you are keeping count of the SUTHS?!! nfm. JulieW (9/18/2006 9:41 a.m.)
It is genius... Moni (9/18/2006 9:27 a.m.)

Elinor's wish to get away from Norland Barbara (9/18/2006 1:59 a.m.)

Her attitude might have changed too Laraine (9/18/2006 8:47 a.m.)
leaving Norland Tina T (9/18/2006 2:26 a.m.)
- Agreed Pennie (9/18/2006 2:29 a.m.)
  - 'Some distance' Mandy N (9/18/2006 5:40 a.m.)
    - Both Letters TerriAnn (9/18/2006 7:33 a.m.)
      - 2 letters teri-mc (9/18/2006 4:13 p.m.)
    - I think this means... Julianne E. (9/18/2006 6:25 a.m.)
      - Possibly but,   Mandy N (9/18/2006 10:20 a.m.)
        
        One thing against   Robbin (9/18/2006 11:12 a.m.)
        
        Who's to pay for all this paper? Fanny?? nfm   Tom P2 (9/20/2006 4:01 a.m.)
        
        What ! Fanny wouldn't give them any paper.   Mandy N (9/20/2006 5:13 a.m.)
        
        Explanation of previous en eff em   Tom P2 (9/20/2006 5:43 a.m.)
        
        Mrs Dashwood's letter.   Mandy N (9/18/2006 9:18 p.m.)
        
        The recipient paid the postage, I think   Tracy W (9/18/2006 5:10 p.m.)
        
        Excellent point...   Robbin (9/18/2006 5:15 p.m.)
  - Pecuniary Concerns TerriAnn (9/18/2006 3:13 a.m.)

Simple lives and simple living Pennie (9/17/2006 11:36 p.m.)

They will live so cheap! Barbara (9/18/2006 1:55 a.m.)
- John's excuses Anne L (9/18/2006 4:44 p.m.)
- Rankest hypocrisy Mary Anne (9/18/2006 8:32 a.m.)
  - Agree and going back... Moni (9/18/2006 9:22 a.m.)
    - An affectionate husband.... Tina T (9/18/2006 12:59 p.m.)
      - Yes, that is my feeling too.   Reeba (9/18/2006 1:25 p.m.)
        
        But John is still responsible...   Elizabeth Sycamore (9/18/2006 9:40 p.m.)
        
        His own sins and misconduct   Maisy (9/19/2006 7:11 a.m.)
        
        What worries me...   Moni (9/19/2006 12:19 p.m.)
        
        Money is more important to JD than honor! (nfm)   Elizabeth Sycamore (9/19/2006 3:34 p.m.)

The nature of evil Anne L (9/17/2006 12:07 p.m.)

This ties in with my focus this GR... Delories (9/17/2006 1:19 p.m.)

Do these words seem familiar to you? JulieW (9/17/2006 9:04 a.m.)

Though there is the distinct difference... Tracy W (9/17/2006 9:45 p.m.)
- Thats not my point( such as it is) JulieW (9/18/2006 2:59 a.m.)
  - If I understood the tone Laraine (9/18/2006 9:03 a.m.)
- 4 people and 3 servants Barbara (9/18/2006 1:46 a.m.)
  - I agree Jan (9/18/2006 1:34 p.m.)
    - Its a comparative poverty, Jan JulieW (9/18/2006 3:27 p.m.)
      - I totally agree that it's relative   Jan (9/18/2006 5:39 p.m.)
        
        Its a trap,"gentility",isn't it?   JulieW (9/19/2006 4:38 a.m.)
        
        Would the effort involved in working be worth it?   Pennie (9/18/2006 10:42 p.m.)
        
        Well JA appears to have regarded her earnings...   Tracy W (9/19/2006 2:13 a.m.)
      - And England was very poor in absolute terms at the time Tracy W (9/18/2006 5:00 p.m.)
      - Thank you Julie, JeannetteF (9/18/2006 3:56 p.m.)
        
        I'qm not sure we are given JulieW (9/19/2006 7:39 a.m.)
    - Money and economies for Mrs. Dashwood Barbara (9/18/2006 2:47 p.m.)
      - Perhaps she had never had to save. Jan (9/18/2006 5:09 p.m.)
    - Good point about the daughters Caroline (9/18/2006 2:19 p.m.)
      - Austenuations, please   Barbara (9/18/2006 2:41 p.m.)
        
        Clarification, please   Caroline (9/18/2006 8:50 p.m.)
        
        Spelling it out.   Barbara (9/18/2006 11:23 p.m.)
        
        okay   Caroline (9/19/2006 12:13 p.m.)
        
        No, that's not what I'm saying   Barbara (9/19/2006 1:21 p.m.)
  - That's the way I think about it Laraine (9/18/2006 8:57 a.m.)
  - Servants not as lavish as they seem Delories (9/18/2006 5:05 a.m.)
    - Excellent perspective, Delories... Elizabeth Sycamore (9/18/2006 9:27 p.m.)
Very familiar... Moni (9/17/2006 10:44 a.m.)
- Similiar cirumstances... Mandy N (9/17/2006 12:38 p.m.)
Thanks for the interesting insight! *nfm* LaurieC (9/17/2006 10:39 a.m.)
Gosh, Julie thanks a lot. Reeba (9/17/2006 9:35 a.m.)
- The opinion of the rich Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 8:44 p.m.)
- Fanny vs. JA's brothers Maisy (9/17/2006 10:08 a.m.)
  - Margaret's education Tina T (9/17/2006 10:21 a.m.)

Imagination, or the lack of it. Caroline (9/16/2006 6:18 p.m.)

Being a keen observer... Anne L (9/17/2006 11:19 a.m.)

Edward the cipher Tina T (9/16/2006 5:48 p.m.)

Perhaps Elinor finds Edward restful Frances Anne (9/18/2006 8:05 a.m.)
Maguffin; fun for Elinor Tom P2 (9/18/2006 1:41 a.m.)
Edward is not a speaker Pennie (9/17/2006 11:31 p.m.)
Less is more TerriAnn (9/17/2006 7:19 p.m.)
The Third Person Voice James S. (9/17/2006 3:12 p.m.)
- But ... James S. (9/17/2006 4:03 p.m.)
On the contrary Anne L (9/17/2006 11:31 a.m.)
- Very true, Edward's non presence provides... Reeba (9/17/2006 11:58 a.m.)
"Things are seldom what they seem, ... CarolB (9/17/2006 12:54 a.m.)
- Edward the Silent Ashley B (9/19/2006 1:26 a.m.)
- Declaring himself or saying anything at all Laraine (9/17/2006 10:05 a.m.)
Something of both, I'd say Laraine (9/16/2006 8:53 p.m.)
- The epistolary origin Tina T (9/17/2006 10:09 a.m.)
Must agree Line (9/16/2006 8:31 p.m.)
*Edward turned hastily* Reeba (9/16/2006 6:07 p.m.)

Elinor & Marianne (chapters 1 to 4) Robbin (9/16/2006 5:29 p.m.)

Marianne and love Tina T (9/17/2006 10:34 a.m.)
- Marianne forgets they are not necessarily lovers Pennie (9/18/2006 12:33 a.m.)
  - Elinor’s Affection Robbin (9/18/2006 11:55 a.m.)
- Marianne does promise... Reeba (9/17/2006 12:05 p.m.)

Taste: the good, the bad and the natural? Barbara (9/16/2006 4:41 p.m.)

Marianne is contradicting herself... Pennie (9/18/2006 12:27 a.m.)
Of the Standard of Taste Caroline (9/16/2006 8:45 p.m.)
- Please discuss novel comparisons at Austenuations (nfm) Myretta (9/17/2006 9:17 a.m.)
Cultivating natural taste Robbin (9/16/2006 6:23 p.m.)
- Romantic Movement : On reading style. Mandy N (9/17/2006 2:11 p.m.)
- Reflections on the Harmony of Sensibility and Reason Caroline (9/16/2006 8:28 p.m.)

The First Dashwood James S. (9/16/2006 1:17 p.m.)

He couldn't have been a playboy. Reeba (9/17/2006 3:41 a.m.)

Isn't Mrs. Dashwood being selfish too? Julianne E. (9/16/2006 11:50 a.m.)

Her intention is different, I think Laraine (9/16/2006 8:02 p.m.)
- Drawing him in Barbara (9/16/2006 9:14 p.m.)
I think it was the right decision Tina T (9/16/2006 5:32 p.m.)
Another Possibility BarbaraB (9/16/2006 12:28 p.m.)

The first gem - a diamond!! :) Reeba (9/16/2006 11:30 a.m.)

A wonderful reflection Mandy N (9/17/2006 3:34 a.m.)
Finagling BarbaraB (9/16/2006 12:58 p.m.)

Fanny is a Sister too… Robbin (9/16/2006 10:06 a.m.)

I think she.... Reeba (9/16/2006 1:53 p.m.)
- Real versus half-sisters Robbin (9/16/2006 5:00 p.m.)

John and his step-mother Barbara (9/15/2006 11:58 p.m.)

John Dashwood grew up lonely IMO. Reeba (9/16/2006 4:03 p.m.)
- I agree about her likely remoteness from John Tom P2 (9/17/2006 8:06 a.m.)
  - Or else smothered him? Tina T (9/17/2006 10:07 a.m.)
    - Or,there is a possibilty that JulieW (9/17/2006 11:15 a.m.)
      - Would a boy go away to school at 7 or 8? -nfm Mary Ellen (9/17/2006 11:28 p.m.)
        
        "One's heart aches for a dejected mind of eight years old&qu JulieW (9/18/2006 9:24 a.m.)
Now that you point it out… Robbin (9/16/2006 3:32 p.m.)
This situation intrigues me... Moni (9/16/2006 12:59 p.m.)
- Think like a father-in-law Tracy W (9/17/2006 1:27 a.m.)
  - But what was his income? Tina T (9/17/2006 2:50 a.m.)
    - We are told in chapter 1 Tracy W (9/17/2006 5:02 p.m.)
      - Not a half share Barbara (9/17/2006 5:21 p.m.)
    - That's the impression I gather too,Tina JulieW (9/17/2006 8:35 a.m.)
      - So in the matter of...   Moni (9/17/2006 10:37 a.m.)
        
        I think he did have a choice,Moni   JulieW (9/17/2006 10:51 a.m.)
        
        I see. Thanks Julie;-) (nfm)   Moni (9/17/2006 11:12 a.m.)
But what about the *legal inheritor*. I'm confused. Reeba (9/16/2006 9:10 a.m.)
- "Strict settlement" Maisy (9/16/2006 12:09 p.m.)
  - CH 1 says .... Reeba (9/16/2006 12:21 p.m.)
    - Let me explain........;-) JulieW (9/17/2006 8:16 a.m.)
      - A Big Help, Indeed but...   BarbaraB (9/17/2006 9:42 a.m.)
        
        I'm sure he could have been more generous   JulieW (9/17/2006 10:45 a.m.)
        
        Thanks, Julie :) nfm   BarbaraB (9/17/2006 11:09 p.m.)
      - Yes, it does. Thank you Julie :) nfm Reeba (9/17/2006 9:29 a.m.)
        
        My pleasure! nfm. JulieW (9/17/2006 9:36 a.m.)
    - May be similar to the present situation Barbara (9/16/2006 1:40 p.m.)
      - This explanation... Reeba (9/16/2006 1:47 p.m.)
Mr. Dashwood's faith in John Yvonne (9/16/2006 3:00 a.m.)
- I'm sure that Anne L (9/17/2006 11:49 a.m.)
- On Mrs Dashwood and John's relationship. Mandy N (9/16/2006 7:13 a.m.)
  - "Your father thought only of them." Maisy (9/17/2006 9:39 a.m.)
  - Partly his wife's fault? Kim E (9/16/2006 8:40 a.m.)
    - But the 14 years before that? Barbara (9/16/2006 11:30 a.m.)
      - I think you hit the nail on the head... Elizabeth Sycamore (9/16/2006 2:19 p.m.)
    - True, and I would add that... Julianne E. (9/16/2006 9:33 a.m.)
      - I disagree; John was a waffler Mary Ellen (9/18/2006 8:20 p.m.)
        
        Yes, a mighty pig… Robbin (9/19/2006 12:44 a.m.)
      - Yes and it says... Moni (9/16/2006 1:09 p.m.)
      - John and Fanny and Goneril and Regan Barbara (9/16/2006 11:57 a.m.)
        
        Thank you - had not thought of this parallel (nfm) Tracy W (9/17/2006 1:33 a.m.)
      - Maybe John took after his grandfather, who was...   Reeba (9/16/2006 9:52 a.m.)
        
        Not his grandfather   Barbara (9/16/2006 10:19 a.m.)
        
        The Uncle   BarbaraB (9/16/2006 12:18 p.m.)
        
        Protecting Norland   Maisy (9/16/2006 12:36 p.m.)
        
        A reasonable answer...   BarbaraB (9/16/2006 1:20 p.m.)
        
        I still think a larger amount settled...   Reeba (9/17/2006 3:56 a.m.)
        
        It does seem very unfair, doesn't it? -nfm   Maisy (9/16/2006 3:30 p.m.)
        
        I'm sure JA considered it unfair.   Mandy N (9/16/2006 4:26 p.m.)
        
        In addition   Pennie (9/17/2006 11:02 p.m.)
        
        Not per annum!   Barbara (9/16/2006 4:46 p.m.)
        
        Well,   Mandy N (9/17/2006 1:25 a.m.)
        
        Chawton   Frances R (9/17/2006 2:11 a.m.)

Some thoughts on the title Barbara (9/15/2006 11:41 p.m.)

Sympathy for Elinor Heidi S (9/16/2006 9:34 p.m.)
Sensibility Caroline (9/16/2006 4:12 p.m.)
The Romantic Movement and Sense & Sensibility. Mandy N (9/16/2006 2:29 p.m.)
- Appreciation of Nature Pennie (9/17/2006 10:38 p.m.)
- Wonderful post Mandy. Reeba (9/16/2006 4:10 p.m.)
Responsible Sensibility, CarolB (9/16/2006 11:53 a.m.)
Good Topic BarbaraB (9/16/2006 10:13 a.m.)
My thoughts on the title Geri-Lynn (9/16/2006 7:52 a.m.)
- Well Said BarbaraB (9/16/2006 10:15 a.m.)

Welcome and a few guidelines Barbara (9/15/2006 11:22 p.m.)

Glad to be here. :D Mandy N (9/16/2006 9:43 a.m.)
Happy to be here, forcasting fun for all! nfm :D Robbin (9/16/2006 9:24 a.m.)
It's a pleasure. I love GRs :) Reeba (9/16/2006 9:13 a.m.)
It's good to be back! Emmeline (9/16/2006 5:27 a.m.)

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