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I guess I"ll have to wait 'til Ch 60 ... Written by Jessica T (6/4/2007 1:22 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, And let us not forget that Austen..., penned by Karen 2L

Thank you for that distinction, Karen 2L.

For the other responses, I realize I mixed academic and "fun" debate in the same post. I apologize for that. I wasn't quite expecting to defend my doctoral dissertation, but it's good practice here.

"I do think people can change because they feel uncomfortable in their skin but that is not what has happen to Darcy so far—at least IMO. From his improved manners and attentiveness in this week’s reading it seems Darcy took Lizzy’s criticism about his ungentlemanly manners to heart which is not the same as changing because he was uncomfortable in his skin. Does uncomfortable mean shy? It does not to me. The change in Darcy’s manners seems to have been brought on by Lizzy’s accusation. An epiphany it was not."

I think a character has to have the potential to be the person he or she changes into, which means that the attributes are part and parcel, but latent perhaps. I think a character changing in literature (for the better) is generally what they have they possibility to be, they just need a driving force, an ephiphany, an anagnorisis, a vehicle, or reason for change. Lizzy's refusal of his proposal may have not been an epiphany, but it is one of the drives for changing. He is experiencing a gradual change, but one his character would have the propensity towards based on his personality, manifest or latent.

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Ch.43: Astonishment, civility and alteration Line (6/3/2007 8:33 a.m.)

Answer to the P.S Marie C (6/3/2007 2:34 p.m.)
- Perhaps he has been practicing Jessica T (6/3/2007 5:17 p.m.)
  - More realistic? Why? Kathi (6/4/2007 1:05 a.m.)
    - And let us not forget that Austen... Karen 2L (6/4/2007 9:13 a.m.)
      - I guess I"ll have to wait 'til Ch 60 ...   Jessica T (6/4/2007 1:22 p.m.)
        
        Potential and catalyst   Robbin (6/4/2007 3:52 p.m.)
        
        I agree ... sorry I was unclear   Jessica T (6/4/2007 7:37 p.m.)
    - Well… Robbin (6/4/2007 3:46 a.m.)
    - realistic? Jessica T (6/4/2007 1:36 a.m.)
  - Do we know when Lady Anne died? Karen 2L (6/3/2007 9:24 p.m.)
  - You have hit on a truth William D (6/3/2007 8:21 p.m.)
    - Perhaps he melts ... ie: more shyness Jessica T (6/3/2007 10:58 p.m.)
      - An unembarrassed observer Adrian (6/4/2007 1:37 p.m.)
      - Shy Darcy in the text? Robbin (6/4/2007 4:30 a.m.)
  - Ooooh, the "Is Darcy shy?" debate! Line (6/3/2007 8:07 p.m.)
    - Or is Darcy 'deep'? William D (6/4/2007 6:12 p.m.)
      - I think he is deep/complex and shy... Lila (6/6/2007 11:21 p.m.)
        
        The narrator's explanation Kathi (6/7/2007 12:24 a.m.)
      - Certainly he is complex ... Jessica T (6/4/2007 7:40 p.m.)

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