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That may be Written by Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:29 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Is Charlotte trifling with Mr. Collins happiness?, penned by Robbin

I am not so sure if the sentiment you state was sanctioned by her society. In JA's novels often characters who are marrying for money pretend that they are doing so for love. However, even if it is sanctioned by society that doesn't make it any less selfish.

And Charlotte does know that there are other ways of thinking about the matter:

The least agreeable circumstance in the business was the surprise it must occasion to Elizabeth Bennet, whose friendship she valued beyond that of any other person. Elizabeth would wonder, and probably would blame her; and though her resolution was not to be shaken, her feelings must be hurt by such disapprobation.
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"Engaged to Mr. Collins! my dear Charlotte, impossible!"

The steady countenance which Miss Lucas had commanded in telling her story, gave way to a momentary confusion here on receiving so direct a reproach; though, as it was no more than she expected, she soon regained her composure (chpt 22).

Incidentally, I think that possible future children are also a relevant consideration in selecting a marriage partner.

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Charlotte after the proposal Cheryl (5/13/2007 1:19 a.m.)

I think Charlotte did the right thing. Cathy Allen (5/15/2007 2:57 p.m.)
- And it's not as if... Reeba (5/15/2007 5:15 p.m.)
JA's use of the word "scheme" Geri-Lynn (5/13/2007 8:36 p.m.)
- Charlotte is a manipulator with a heart Robbin (5/14/2007 12:49 a.m.)
  - I think I agree nan duval (5/16/2007 8:33 p.m.)
    - Didn't eliminate gainful employment Tracy W (5/19/2007 2:06 a.m.)
      - "Gainful employment" was not an attractive option. Helen Halstead (5/20/2007 6:52 p.m.)
      - Options   Robbin (5/19/2007 6:03 p.m.)
        
        Yep - that's what I'm doing   Tracy W (5/20/2007 7:37 a.m.)
        
        I absolutely do not equate Charlotte's marrying Mr. Collins   nan duval (5/19/2007 10:53 p.m.)
      - Charlotte and Mr Collins Susan L (5/19/2007 6:41 a.m.)
        
        Good points! nfm :D Robbin (5/19/2007 5:56 p.m.)
  - The meaning of the word "scheme"? Line (5/14/2007 8:17 a.m.)
    - According to Johnson's dictionary... Reeba (5/14/2007 8:54 a.m.)
      - If it means a contrivance...   Moni (5/14/2007 12:11 p.m.)
        
        I think Elizabeth also fears for Charlotte's happiness   Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:36 p.m.)
        
        I see Elizabeth's feelings here...   Reeba (5/14/2007 5:36 p.m.)
        
        I see it the other way round! :-)   Line (5/14/2007 6:23 p.m.)
        
        You're welcome, Line :-) nfm   Reeba (5/15/2007 4:30 a.m.)
        
        Surely Elizabeth is thinking about her own opinions?   Tracy W (5/14/2007 6:09 p.m.)
  - Perhaps Geri-Lynn is referring to the line in chpt 22 Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:04 a.m.)
    - Yes, you are right Geri-Lynn (5/15/2007 3:57 p.m.)
    - Is Charlotte trifling with Mr. Collins happiness? Robbin (5/14/2007 9:05 a.m.)
      - I agree; after all, nan duval (5/16/2007 8:47 p.m.)
      - That may be   Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:29 p.m.)
        
        Prudence, prudence   Robbin (5/15/2007 10:28 a.m.)
        
        Charlotte is prudent but not selfish   Susan L (5/16/2007 12:13 a.m.)
        
        "Mr. Bennet-like behavior"   Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 8:59 p.m.)
        
        Charlotte has self-esteem   Robbin (5/16/2007 1:46 a.m.)
        
        I see...   Maria Liourdi (5/16/2007 2:28 p.m.)
        
        Spinsterhood   Susan L (5/18/2007 12:02 a.m.)
        
        Spinsterhood not so bad?   Robbin (5/17/2007 8:01 p.m.)
        
        That doesn't mean marriage is better   Tracy W (5/18/2007 12:05 a.m.)
        
        Escape options   Robbin (5/19/2007 12:19 p.m.)
        
        Actually the selection of the boss...   Reeba (5/19/2007 2:28 p.m.)
        
        I agree also. Good point nfm   Susan L (5/19/2007 7:02 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Robbin (5/19/2007 3:06 p.m.)
        
        Mr Collins or spinsterhood   Susan L (5/18/2007 3:25 a.m.)
        
        No, it doesn't, but...   Kathi (5/18/2007 12:28 a.m.)
        
        To change the topic somewhat - Elizabeth's views   Tracy W (5/19/2007 2:57 a.m.)
        
        Is Charlotte right? & Lizzy’s views   Robbin (5/19/2007 5:05 p.m.)
        
        Judging Elizabeth by your standards?   Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:29 a.m.)
        
        If Mr. Bennett had not married Mrs Bennett   nan duval (5/20/2007 6:59 p.m.)
        
        Tragic indeed :)   Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:47 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy is safe from me…   Robbin (5/20/2007 6:12 p.m.)
        
        Ex post vs ex ante   Tracy W (5/21/2007 4:32 p.m.)
        
        Its time to stop   JulieW (5/21/2007 4:46 p.m.)
        
        I am!! ;-)   Reeba (5/20/2007 11:11 a.m.)
        
        Elizabeth's standards   Line (5/20/2007 11:00 a.m.)
        
        Think of their fathers.   Rachel G (5/19/2007 6:46 a.m.)
        
        I agree. This is a situation...   Reeba (5/19/2007 8:03 a.m.)
        
        In general...   Maria Liourdi (5/21/2007 7:15 p.m.)
        
        Prudence or foolhardiness?   Tracy W (5/15/2007 6:05 p.m.)
        
        Situation and temper (long)   Robbin (5/17/2007 3:06 a.m.)
        
        Excellent post, Robbin :-)   Reeba (5/18/2007 7:10 a.m.)
        
        I admire Charlotte for her approach.   Susan L (5/18/2007 3:31 a.m.)
        
        My email address   Tracy W (5/17/2007 7:31 p.m.)
        
        I am ok Tracy. I am sorry I misunderstood your intent. nfm :D   Robbin (5/17/2007 8:09 p.m.)
        
        Nevertheless, Robin, an excellent post   BarbaraB (5/17/2007 11:04 p.m.)
        
        in total agreement   Lisa Dalrymple (5/17/2007 8:18 a.m.)
        
        Dads   nan duval (5/16/2007 9:13 p.m.)
        
        An illiterate father   Line (5/16/2007 9:44 p.m.)
        
        Good point, but   nan duval (5/16/2007 10:25 p.m.)
        
        Assuming Charlotte lives (nfm)   Tracy W (5/17/2007 7:28 p.m.)
        
        Well, that would solve Charlotte's problem at least ;-)   Adrian (5/18/2007 1:00 p.m.)
        
        Not just what-ifs   Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:40 a.m.)
        
        The thing is...   BarbaraB (5/20/2007 3:06 p.m.)
        
        Excellent post, Barbara. Thank you. :-) nfm   Reeba (5/21/2007 5:11 p.m.)
        
        I think we will have to agree to disagree   Tracy W (5/20/2007 5:04 p.m.)
        
        :) nfm   BarbaraB (5/20/2007 5:16 p.m.)
    - Mr. Collins' benefits ... Reeba (5/14/2007 8:59 a.m.)
Charlotte at the Netherfield ball Robbin (5/13/2007 10:58 a.m.)
- I was struck by the same thought! Rose G (5/18/2007 10:49 a.m.)
- Perhaps she *is* laying the groundwork... Line (5/13/2007 6:46 p.m.)
  - Fair to Lizzy… Robbin (5/13/2007 7:21 p.m.)
    - And he is most suited... Moni (5/14/2007 12:26 p.m.)
      - The violence of his affections   Robbin (5/14/2007 1:42 p.m.)
        
        Once again I note...   William D (5/21/2007 1:28 p.m.)
        
        The entail...   Rose G (5/18/2007 10:53 a.m.)
        
        Exactly! LOL;-) (nfm)   Moni (5/15/2007 11:18 a.m.)

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