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Thank you Carolyn (6/24/2007 10:13 p.m.)

Thank you for my first group read Susan L (6/25/2007 2:15 a.m.)
Thank you, it was great.;-) (nfm) Moni (6/25/2007 12:25 a.m.)
Thanks to all, & especially the moderators nan duval (6/24/2007 10:25 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 61 Carolyn (6/24/2007 12:30 a.m.)

Thank you Carolyn Robbin (6/24/2007 1:16 p.m.)
- I agree with Robbin - thanks Carolyn (nfm) Tracy W (6/24/2007 4:40 p.m.)
Yes... BarbaraB (6/24/2007 11:19 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 60 Carolyn (6/24/2007 12:25 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 59 Carolyn (6/24/2007 12:18 a.m.)

"You could scarcely... Line (6/24/2007 8:34 a.m.)
- Grin and bear it is unlike Lizzy… Robbin (6/24/2007 11:38 a.m.)
  - Interesting, but I am moreover inclined to think that... Adrian (6/24/2007 12:10 p.m.)
    - Well... Robbin (6/24/2007 1:10 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 58 Carolyn (6/23/2007 11:58 p.m.)

As I wend my way to bed.... JulieW (6/23/2007 4:52 p.m.)

Yes, the re-read has brought... Moni (6/24/2007 2:02 a.m.)
Well... BarbaraB (6/23/2007 8:08 p.m.)
Thanks JulieW! nfm ;D Robbin (6/23/2007 7:36 p.m.)

Thanks for a great GR, everybody! Line (6/23/2007 3:35 p.m.)

Yes, thanks very much to everyone who participated! nfm Kathi (6/25/2007 3:42 a.m.)
Echoing the sentiment Geri-Lynn (6/24/2007 8:29 p.m.)
I like to participate :-) (NFM) Graciela (6/24/2007 5:37 p.m.)
Thanks for all of the wonderful insight... Lila (6/24/2007 5:27 p.m.)
It's been fun reading P&P with everyone. nfm BarbaraB (6/24/2007 11:21 a.m.)
Yes, it's been great - thanks moderators (nfm) Tracy W (6/24/2007 12:52 a.m.)
Thank you all for a great time. ;D nfm Robbin (6/23/2007 7:33 p.m.)
Yes! Elizabeth Sycamore (6/23/2007 4:43 p.m.)

Where does one marry? Adrian (6/23/2007 2:00 p.m.)

Where to be married? Line (6/23/2007 2:48 p.m.)

Quote Chapeter 57 Carolyn (6/22/2007 11:21 p.m.)

Doubting Jane Tracy W (6/22/2007 9:56 p.m.)

"I know it to be impossible." Adrian (6/23/2007 1:11 p.m.)

The proposal Tracy W (6/22/2007 9:20 p.m.)

stiff upper lip line - delivery Jessica T (6/23/2007 7:46 p.m.)
- Even as I agree that Darcy means the line as... Adrian (6/24/2007 12:21 p.m.)
A couple of quibbles Kathi (6/22/2007 11:12 p.m.)
- Is not that the motive behind the upper-lip Tracy W (6/24/2007 12:06 a.m.)
  - I don't know -- is it? Kathi (6/24/2007 8:46 a.m.)
- I just have to say... BarbaraB (6/23/2007 8:16 p.m.)
  - Thank you very much for your kind words. nfm Kathi (6/24/2007 8:48 a.m.)

Chapter 58 Quotes... Lila (6/22/2007 9:12 p.m.)

I blame Lady Anne nan duval (6/23/2007 1:29 p.m.)
- But do we have any evidence for such blame? Adrian (6/23/2007 1:41 p.m.)
  - Well Said nfm BarbaraB (6/23/2007 8:04 p.m.)
  - Thanks, Adrian! Line (6/23/2007 2:27 p.m.)
Why eight Mary B (6/23/2007 12:37 p.m.)
I think what Darcy means is... Tracy W (6/22/2007 9:44 p.m.)

Chapter 56 Lila (6/22/2007 8:01 p.m.)

Not very sarcastic, I think Tracy W (6/22/2007 8:41 p.m.)
- An interesting thing about that line... Kathi (6/22/2007 11:40 p.m.)

Does anyone know what a "special license" is? nan duval (6/22/2007 3:50 p.m.)

Special license information Christopher (6/24/2007 6:30 p.m.)
- In your linked reference to Joanna M's page,... Adrian (6/24/2007 6:54 p.m.)
Its an in-joke JulieW (6/23/2007 7:47 a.m.)
- Some Great Information/Also the Theory on Lady C BarbaraB (6/23/2007 1:29 p.m.)
  - I think Mrs Bennet JulieW (6/23/2007 1:43 p.m.)
- Thank you, JulieW. As always, nan duval (6/23/2007 1:17 p.m.)
Special License Anita S. (6/22/2007 6:43 p.m.)

What is the answer about Georgiana's "establishment?" Cathy Allen (6/22/2007 12:56 p.m.)

I *think* that's what Julie meant Line (6/23/2007 3:40 p.m.)

Counting chapters again Michaela (6/22/2007 10:45 a.m.)

Well, you have the right of it there! Cathy Allen (6/22/2007 11:43 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 56 Carolyn (6/21/2007 11:56 p.m.)

Chapter 58 -- Heartfelt Delight Cathy Allen (6/20/2007 11:01 p.m.)

I too have felt that the book does not give enough of Lila (6/22/2007 9:33 p.m.)
- You're welcome; I loved it! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/23/2007 12:28 p.m.)

Chapter 56 -- Lady Catherine! Cathy Allen (6/20/2007 10:45 p.m.)

Considering Lady Catherine manners in Longbourn Graciela (6/24/2007 5:01 p.m.)
- Too early for visiting… Robbin (6/24/2007 8:32 p.m.)
And yet more Tracy W (6/21/2007 10:05 p.m.)
Lady Catherine and Mrs. Bennet Graciela (6/20/2007 11:03 p.m.)
- Lady Catherine at Longbourn BarbaraB (6/21/2007 10:59 p.m.)
  - As in the case of Caroline at Pemberley... Adrian (6/22/2007 1:12 p.m.)
- I love your point of view, Graciela, especially Lady C's Cathy Allen (6/21/2007 4:08 p.m.)

Ch.59: Oakham Mount Line (6/20/2007 9:18 p.m.)

Getting engaged... BrendaB (6/20/2007 2:10 p.m.)

I think it Helen B (6/20/2007 4:24 p.m.)
- Also Jane at the start of the chapter Helen B (6/20/2007 4:38 p.m.)
  - And Jane asks (non-verbally) for Elizabeth's support Tracy W (6/20/2007 6:14 p.m.)
    - I agree with all your ideas BrendaB (6/20/2007 7:53 p.m.)
      - Or shy and embarassed! ;-) *nfm* Elizabeth Sycamore (6/20/2007 9:06 p.m.)

Ahh the irony of it all... Lila (6/19/2007 11:17 p.m.)

Well said! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/20/2007 10:17 p.m.)

Elizabeth's perspective on Bingley and Jane (Ch. 54) Lila (6/19/2007 10:56 p.m.)

One difference that has been discovered... Adrian (6/20/2007 12:23 p.m.)
Not lowering standards Rose G (6/20/2007 8:52 a.m.)
- Yes, Elizabeth learns to appreciate Darcy's worth, but... Line (6/20/2007 6:20 p.m.)
Good point! Line (6/20/2007 8:15 a.m.)
- Maybe she is not lowering her standard.... Lila (6/20/2007 11:22 p.m.)
  - Perhaps Lizzy can forgive Darcy's.... Karen 2L (6/21/2007 4:13 p.m.)
    - Is it really 6 months? Lila (6/21/2007 4:38 p.m.)
      - April, May, June, July, August... Karen 2L (6/22/2007 10:32 a.m.)
        
        Good point, Karen - something for me to think about! (nfm) Line (6/23/2007 3:24 p.m.)
      - Overdeveloped sense of responsibility   Kathi (6/21/2007 7:21 p.m.)
        
        An overdeveloped sense of responsibility…   Robbin (6/22/2007 1:29 a.m.)
        
        Darcy needed to personally observe Bingley and Jane ...   Karen 2L (6/23/2007 9:34 a.m.)
        
        Darcy has not changed in essentials   Robbin (6/23/2007 12:50 p.m.)
        
        No, he hasn't!   Line (6/23/2007 3:21 p.m.)
        
        If you are hard on Darcy, you are also hard on Lizzy.   Adrian (6/23/2007 2:29 p.m.)
        
        The only person who should explain....   Karen 2L (6/24/2007 9:51 a.m.)
        
        Perhaps you are right Karen 2L but...   Lila (6/24/2007 5:36 p.m.)
        
        Perfection non grata   Robbin (6/23/2007 3:40 p.m.)
        
        Could Darcy's kindness to a friend ease his own hurt?   Adrian (6/22/2007 1:33 p.m.)
        
        Possible reasons   Ramya (6/22/2007 1:01 a.m.)
        
        I agree with you Ramya...   Lila (6/22/2007 6:02 p.m.)
        
        Why is it Darcy's job to do this?   Karen 2L (6/22/2007 8:15 p.m.)
        
        The way you portray it, it sounds so simple...   Lila (6/22/2007 9:25 p.m.)
        
        Darcy knew the only reason ....   Karen 2L (6/23/2007 9:28 a.m.)
        
        Better at hiding his feelings?   Line (6/22/2007 8:08 a.m.)
        
        Hiding Feelings   Ramya (6/22/2007 6:53 p.m.)
        
        I agree Ramya, I overlap you a bit in my post! nfm ;D   Robbin (6/22/2007 1:34 a.m.)
- IMO, Lizzy is uncertain... Moni (6/20/2007 8:38 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 55 Carolyn (6/19/2007 9:55 p.m.)

My favorite line nan duval (6/19/2007 11:07 p.m.)
This chapter has one of my favourite lines Tracy W (6/19/2007 10:08 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 54 Carolyn (6/19/2007 9:30 p.m.)

But it's only a hope. Adrian (6/20/2007 12:30 p.m.)

Focus: Voices: Kitty Tracy W (6/19/2007 8:56 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 53 Carolyn (6/18/2007 9:47 p.m.)

I wonder what Charlotte would have done in her place ... Kris L (6/19/2007 2:08 p.m.)
A common disapointment Amanda Lee (6/19/2007 10:44 a.m.)

Who tells Lady Catherine the rumour of EB and FD? Kris L (6/18/2007 1:20 p.m.)

According to Elizabeth, the Lucas's told the Collins's ..... Lila (6/18/2007 9:37 p.m.)
- thank you all for helping me put the pieces together. nfm Kris L (6/19/2007 2:03 p.m.)
- This is only Lizzy's speculation, of course, but... Kathi (6/18/2007 11:50 p.m.)
Mr. Collins said that he did Kathi (6/18/2007 8:08 p.m.)
- I just KNEW it was in there -- thanks, Kathi (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/19/2007 12:25 p.m.)
It must be Mr. Collins who tells Lady Catherine of the rumor Cathy Allen (6/18/2007 2:11 p.m.)
- Elizabeth hardly confided in anyone... Kris L (6/18/2007 2:31 p.m.)
  - Sorry -- I meant that I think that Sir William had surmised that Cathy Allen (6/18/2007 2:55 p.m.)
    - This seems reasonable. Sir W was very perceptive Kris L (6/18/2007 4:18 p.m.)
      - Also..... Eaffie (6/18/2007 6:29 p.m.)

CH. 53 Newspapers/Wedding... Moni (6/18/2007 11:49 a.m.)

Thank you both ;-) (nfm) Moni (6/21/2007 5:16 a.m.)
Advertising .. my theories Susan L (6/18/2007 9:59 p.m.)
If you look further down on this board... Cathy Allen (6/18/2007 2:38 p.m.)

Chapter 53 Lila (6/18/2007 12:26 a.m.)

I think Helen B (6/18/2007 7:02 a.m.)
- Yes, Darcy and Bingley, IMO (nfm) Line (6/18/2007 7:15 a.m.)

Elizabeth's walk-through of Darcy's behavior at Longbourn Lila (6/18/2007 12:20 a.m.)

Ch. 53: the visit Michaela (6/18/2007 2:10 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 52 Carolyn (6/17/2007 11:09 p.m.)

Lambton Inn Margaret S (6/17/2007 7:13 p.m.)

It seems doubtful Kathi (6/18/2007 12:06 a.m.)
I dunno Line (6/17/2007 8:11 p.m.)

Why an invitation to the Lake District? Adrian (6/17/2007 1:37 p.m.)

She didn't tell him in the novel. Graciela (6/19/2007 3:35 p.m.)
Can you imagine... Moni (6/18/2007 1:30 a.m.)
JA plotting carefully? Tracy W (6/17/2007 4:51 p.m.)
- This is very well put... Lila (6/20/2007 11:39 p.m.)
- You put it very well! Maria Liourdi (6/17/2007 8:33 p.m.)
Gilpin JulieW (6/17/2007 4:37 p.m.)
Why the Lakes? Marie C (6/17/2007 2:54 p.m.)

Condescension Amanda Lee (6/16/2007 9:39 a.m.)

Defining "condescension BarbaraB (6/18/2007 6:50 p.m.)
- Mark of his stupidity… Robbin (6/19/2007 7:00 a.m.)
I believe it is to indicate the superior in rank Emmy (6/16/2007 9:52 a.m.)
- Just looked up in the C.O.D Marie C (6/17/2007 12:52 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 51 Carolyn (6/15/2007 11:36 p.m.)

Yes, this chapter... Moni (6/17/2007 1:32 a.m.)
Indeed! Lydia is provoking in the extreme... Emmy (6/16/2007 9:45 a.m.)
- Where did that good breeding come from? Kathi (6/17/2007 4:56 a.m.)
  - Jane also has good breeding... Lila (6/17/2007 11:29 p.m.)
    - Jane and Lizzy Kathi (6/17/2007 11:55 p.m.)
      - How about this quote…   Robbin (6/18/2007 7:02 a.m.)
        
        Yes, that's the one.   Kathi (6/18/2007 9:09 a.m.)
        
        Thanks Robbin, this is a very helpful quote...   Lila (6/18/2007 7:57 a.m.)
  - Encouraged to read? Tracy W (6/17/2007 7:41 a.m.)
    - Both good possibilities Kathi (6/17/2007 8:41 a.m.)
      - Circulating libraries Tracy W (6/17/2007 9:34 a.m.)
        
        Good catch! nfm Kathi (6/17/2007 11:57 p.m.)

Question about Marriage Articles Cathy Allen (6/15/2007 6:45 p.m.)

I seem to recall ... Emmy (6/16/2007 9:35 a.m.)

clothes question Carolyn (6/14/2007 10:43 p.m.)

I think that the narrator is being ironical Mary Ellen (6/15/2007 1:45 a.m.)
- Wedding clothes Helen B (6/15/2007 5:00 a.m.)
  - Not so much a sign of affection as of approval, IMO Line (6/15/2007 7:58 a.m.)
    - socially respectable Ra (6/15/2007 8:12 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 50 Carolyn (6/14/2007 10:24 p.m.)

Chapter 49: Regency standards for beauty Silvia O (6/14/2007 1:00 p.m.)

Mrs. Bingley & Mrs. Quentin Robbin (6/14/2007 2:57 p.m.)
- Thank you very much Robbin! Silvia O (6/15/2007 5:28 p.m.)
- Good to see this one again... Moni (6/15/2007 12:19 a.m.)
- Yes, I think Beauty was plumper then :-) Line (6/14/2007 8:38 p.m.)
- How interesting! Thank you *nfm* Marie C (6/14/2007 4:48 p.m.)
  - yes... Ra (6/15/2007 8:15 a.m.)

Former friends… (long) Robbin (6/14/2007 8:04 a.m.)

Mr Darcy as the former friend Susan L (6/14/2007 8:15 p.m.)
- Darcy required no help at all? Robbin (6/16/2007 8:33 p.m.)
  - Darcy's abilities Susan L (6/17/2007 9:08 p.m.)
  - Colonel Fitzwilliam? Tracy W (6/17/2007 7:36 a.m.)
    - I think you are right; Darcy uses HIS friends;... Adrian (6/17/2007 1:00 p.m.)
- Is it definite Helen B (6/15/2007 7:27 a.m.)
  - Yes, it's just Mr. Bennet's speculation... Line (6/15/2007 8:15 a.m.)
    - Wickham, debts, Mr. Gardiner's letter Emmy (6/16/2007 9:24 a.m.)
      - In addition to concealing Darcy's involvement....   Adrian (6/16/2007 1:52 p.m.)
        
        Not completely distancing   Robbin (6/16/2007 8:01 p.m.)
        
        IMO, it wasn't so much the wedding itself...   Line (6/17/2007 7:46 p.m.)
        
        Exactly my thoughts...   Maria Liourdi (6/17/2007 8:44 p.m.)
        
        The advertisement in the newspaper   Graciela (6/18/2007 12:05 a.m.)
        
        Exactly   Line (6/18/2007 7:08 a.m.)
        
        Thank you both! :-) nfm   Maria Liourdi (6/18/2007 1:52 p.m.)
        
        I agree too! Thanks for the explanations. nfm ;D   Robbin (6/18/2007 7:11 a.m.)
        
        You are right here, of course.   Adrian (6/17/2007 1:21 p.m.)
Mr. Gardiner's red herring Adrian (6/14/2007 12:25 p.m.)
- Red herring... Robbin (6/14/2007 6:23 p.m.)
  - Mr. Gardiner's object is subterfuge Adrian (6/15/2007 1:22 p.m.)
    - This explanation makes the most sense William D (6/15/2007 6:37 p.m.)

People of fashion Graciela (6/14/2007 12:37 a.m.)

American Heritage Dictionary BarbaraB (6/18/2007 10:25 p.m.)
It would be like... Moni (6/18/2007 1:36 a.m.)
Thanks for pointing this out, Graciela! Line (6/14/2007 8:27 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 49 Carolyn (6/14/2007 12:22 a.m.)

"How am I ever to repay him?" Line (6/14/2007 8:49 p.m.)
- Bennet v Gardiner financial security Susan L (6/14/2007 11:00 p.m.)
  - I should have said "debt of gratitude" Line (6/15/2007 8:05 a.m.)
    - Does Mr Gardiner want to be a gentleman of leisure? Tracy W (6/17/2007 7:30 a.m.)
      - I only deduced this... Line (6/17/2007 7:58 p.m.)
Mr. Bennet’s feelings after the elopement (long) Robbin (6/14/2007 12:31 p.m.)
- Mr Bennet did charge off to London in search of Lydia Tracy W (6/15/2007 12:53 a.m.)
  - Yes, but it wasn't concern... Kathi (6/15/2007 7:14 p.m.)
    - Is anger entirely separate from concern? Tracy W (6/17/2007 6:57 a.m.)
      - No, of course not -- in fact, ...   Kathi (6/17/2007 8:41 p.m.)
        
        Don't think the only care was for reputation   Tracy W (6/18/2007 2:22 a.m.)
        
        Concern for Lydia   Kathi (6/18/2007 3:35 a.m.)
        
        Time to end this discussion (nfm)   Myretta (6/18/2007 5:38 a.m.)
Mr Bennet's state of mind Susan L (6/14/2007 2:14 a.m.)
- No esteem, little affection Marie C (6/15/2007 10:35 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 48 Carolyn (6/13/2007 11:54 p.m.)

Such magnificent writing! Cathy Allen (6/13/2007 11:51 p.m.)

True. This is only my first read of P&P, William D (6/14/2007 5:41 p.m.)

Aunt Gardiner's Letter Lila (6/13/2007 7:45 p.m.)

I love this letter it makes me laugh brightens my day nfm Dario (6/19/2007 6:11 a.m.)
I agree it is an excellent letter... Robbin (6/13/2007 9:24 p.m.)
- For Robbin--Darcy's views on accomplished women.. Lila (6/14/2007 11:21 p.m.)
  - Sugar and spice and everything nice… (long) Robbin (6/19/2007 9:43 a.m.)
- Yes, this is British English, all right! ;-) Line (6/13/2007 10:20 p.m.)
  - We don't 'want' so much, now! Rose G (6/14/2007 7:45 a.m.)
    - Hints? She was pretty forthright about Kris L (6/14/2007 12:56 p.m.)
      - Mrs Gardiner believes Darcy did it for Elizabeth Tracy W (6/17/2007 7:09 a.m.)
  - And let's not forget Graciela (6/13/2007 11:56 p.m.)

Mr. Bennet's feelings towards Wickham Lila (6/13/2007 7:20 p.m.)

Wishy-washness? Tracy W (6/13/2007 10:46 p.m.)
- Mr. Bennet was "wishy washy" in his feeling... Lila (6/14/2007 10:28 p.m.)
  - Character faults vs wishy-washyness Tracy W (6/17/2007 7:03 a.m.)
  - Weakness and wishywashiness not quite the same, IMO ;-) Line (6/15/2007 8:23 a.m.)
Self pity expressed through sarcasm? Susan L (6/13/2007 9:57 p.m.)
Mr. Bennet is being sarcastic… Robbin (6/13/2007 8:50 p.m.)

Ch 50: Elizabeths feelings Michaela (6/13/2007 2:04 a.m.)

Thanks, Susan Michaela (6/13/2007 5:37 a.m.)
My interpretation ... Susan L (6/13/2007 2:44 a.m.)
- Lizzy's rational expectations Lila (6/13/2007 8:29 p.m.)
  - 64000 dollar question... Michaela (6/14/2007 2:33 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 47 Carolyn (6/12/2007 10:56 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 46 Carolyn (6/11/2007 11:59 p.m.)

Anyone else have the Annotated Version? Ch Nos. Dif Jessica T (6/11/2007 9:53 p.m.)

The novel was originally published in three volumes Graciela (6/11/2007 10:52 p.m.)
- Oh thank you! I have been looking them up on the e-text Emmy (6/12/2007 1:13 p.m.)
  - To Make Life Easier--- BarbaraB (6/12/2007 9:27 p.m.)

Ch.47: Another transportation question Line (6/10/2007 7:18 p.m.)

Time of Sunset? Frances Anne (6/11/2007 7:57 a.m.)
Hackney Coaches (long) JulieW (6/11/2007 7:34 a.m.)
- Very interesting (as always!) nfm Emmy (6/13/2007 11:38 a.m.)
- Thanks Julie W! Lovely information! ;D nfm Robbin (6/12/2007 12:50 p.m.)
- Thanks once again, Julie! Fascinating stuff! Line (6/11/2007 8:22 a.m.)
Hackney-coach Christopher (6/10/2007 9:11 p.m.)
- Taxi! jeremy (6/11/2007 1:51 a.m.)
  - And a license to drive a taxi in NYC.... Karen 2L (6/11/2007 5:01 p.m.)

Chapter 47: What is Elizabeth amazed at? Silvia O (6/10/2007 1:45 p.m.)

This may be the first family disaster Elizabeth's experienced Tracy W (6/10/2007 4:46 p.m.)
- Very true. Silvia O (6/10/2007 6:28 p.m.)
The unfathomable depths of silliness Marie C (6/10/2007 3:09 p.m.)
- I don't think I should ever get used to such a sister. (nfm) Silvia O (6/10/2007 6:30 p.m.)

Charlotte's loose tongue Cheryl (6/9/2007 11:41 p.m.)

They're married; they have to talk about something Louise H (6/10/2007 3:28 p.m.)
Terrible accusation Susan L (6/10/2007 9:31 a.m.)
Consider the source Kathi (6/10/2007 3:51 a.m.)
- Mr. Collins letter Graciela (6/11/2007 9:43 p.m.)
  - A couple things I noticed about Mr. Collins's letter Emmy (6/13/2007 11:56 a.m.)
  - Obnoxious man! Rachel G (6/12/2007 9:20 a.m.)
    - As inhumane as Mr. C is, and (we hope) atypical,... Adrian (6/12/2007 11:54 a.m.)
      - Reply made on Austenations Tracy W (6/12/2007 8:11 p.m.)
      - You are right..   Rachel G (6/12/2007 1:48 p.m.)
        
        Mr. C was indeed a piece of work! :-) ...(nfm)   Adrian (6/12/2007 6:18 p.m.)
        
        How does it being typical make it any better?   Tracy W (6/12/2007 5:27 p.m.)
        
        Fantastic! I couldn't agree with you more...   Lila (6/13/2007 9:09 p.m.)
        
        Indeed. & his position as a clergyman   nan duval (6/16/2007 11:48 p.m.)
        
        Your post makes me wonder if ...   Lila (6/17/2007 9:29 p.m.)
        
        I wonder the same thing.   nan duval (6/19/2007 8:08 p.m.)
  - Yes, but being married to Elizabeth... Line (6/12/2007 8:09 a.m.)
    - I'm sure that he would be celebrating the 27th of November Graciela (6/12/2007 11:15 p.m.)
- Charlotte could have said something ... Karen 2L (6/10/2007 9:54 a.m.)
- Well, remember... Sarah Hannah (6/10/2007 8:16 a.m.)
  - Thanks for rehabilitating Charlotte's character Marie C (6/10/2007 3:22 p.m.)

Waiting for letters Cheryl (6/9/2007 11:32 p.m.)

I say again, I wish I had an Aunt and Uncle Gardiner! Cathy Allen (6/11/2007 1:47 p.m.)
- IMO the threat of having your husband/father die in a duel Graciela (6/11/2007 2:41 p.m.)
A letter from Darcy to Elizabeth ? Silvia O (6/10/2007 11:42 a.m.)
- Very true. Silvia O (6/12/2007 5:00 p.m.)
- Normally, yes... Rose G (6/11/2007 5:29 a.m.)
  - The 'understanding' Lisa Maree (6/12/2007 2:22 a.m.)
    - That's my understanding ;) Rose G (6/12/2007 5:40 a.m.)
      - An interesting, elusive discussion   Adrian (6/12/2007 12:09 p.m.)
        
        A mistake in my version of the text?   Silvia O (6/12/2007 5:07 p.m.)
        
        Perhaps not: your version agrees with....   Adrian (6/12/2007 6:26 p.m.)
        
        It's not very important anyways,   Silvia O (6/17/2007 8:07 p.m.)
        
        Unless Mrs. G repeated it to herself ...   Adrian (6/18/2007 12:38 p.m.)
- Mrs. G thought there was more to the relationship... Adrian (6/10/2007 12:32 p.m.)

Mary & Kitty in Chapter 47 Robbin (6/9/2007 9:10 p.m.)

Officers and Gentlemen… Robbin (6/9/2007 8:30 p.m.)

"No one can throw any blame on them" Emmy (6/13/2007 1:14 p.m.)
- I do not think Robbin (6/13/2007 4:52 p.m.)
I would feel more secure condemning Denny... Adrian (6/10/2007 12:52 p.m.)
- Denny and Wickham Robbin (6/12/2007 8:48 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 45 Carolyn (6/8/2007 10:23 p.m.)

The importance of conversation Line (6/7/2007 10:43 p.m.)

Good Conversation has long been one of the hallmarks of Cathy Allen (6/8/2007 12:39 p.m.)
- The art of conversation Graciela (6/11/2007 10:39 p.m.)
  - Just to add something Marie C (6/16/2007 2:03 a.m.)
  - It seems the true ADULTS in the room kept the... Adrian (6/12/2007 12:16 p.m.)
  - Well written; I agree! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/12/2007 11:38 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 44 Carolyn (6/7/2007 10:37 p.m.)

Why didn't the Gardiners find anything to justify inquiry? Lila (6/10/2007 12:13 a.m.)
- For Aunt Gardiner to have asked Lizzy point blank... Adrian (6/10/2007 1:01 p.m.)
- No sign of any engagment? Tracy W (6/10/2007 5:56 a.m.)

Words to be made public Adrian (6/7/2007 12:42 p.m.)

Double entendre and underscoring Marie C (6/9/2007 1:44 p.m.)
- Interesting theory... Silvia O (6/10/2007 6:43 p.m.)
That's the way I read it too Becky K (6/9/2007 1:26 p.m.)
In other words, lines vs. lines Jessica T (6/7/2007 11:50 p.m.)
Letters and lines under words - a question for Julie! Line (6/7/2007 9:53 p.m.)
- Yes, it was Emily Silvia O (6/9/2007 1:08 p.m.)
  - Not quite the phrase Adrian (6/9/2007 5:43 p.m.)
    - I read it differently Christopher (6/10/2007 3:19 p.m.)
      - lines under the words Katy B (6/11/2007 1:47 a.m.)
        
        Indeed, I agree with the underlining camp Mary Ellen (6/11/2007 11:10 a.m.)
    - Oh! I see Silvia O (6/10/2007 2:10 p.m.)

Lydia & Wickham (Long) Robbin (6/7/2007 1:21 a.m.)

I think you're right... Rose G (6/7/2007 7:36 a.m.)
- Lydia and Wickham's elopment is a puzzle to me... Lila (6/9/2007 11:44 p.m.)
  - A couple of points Kathi (6/11/2007 9:13 a.m.)
    - Thanks Kathi, but I only said Wickham wanted to elope... Lila (6/13/2007 8:43 p.m.)
  - L&W's elopement Katy B (6/11/2007 2:05 a.m.)
  - The elopement Helen B (6/10/2007 6:11 a.m.)
  - Wickham has a tendency to make short-term decisions Tracy W (6/10/2007 5:46 a.m.)
    - Darcy's comments about Wickham Emmy (6/13/2007 1:01 p.m.)

Two sources of affection Robbin (6/7/2007 12:25 a.m.)

More on gratitude? Marie C (6/7/2007 1:56 a.m.)
- Love at second sight... Silvia O (6/9/2007 1:23 p.m.)
- More mature love. BrendaB (6/7/2007 1:37 p.m.)
  - Does Elizabeth ever love as puppy-love? Tracy W (6/8/2007 1:33 a.m.)
    - My take on EB is that she had never BrendaB (6/8/2007 7:03 a.m.)
      - I don't think Elizabeth is being strictly serious here   Tracy W (6/8/2007 9:04 p.m.)
        
        I didn't realize that EB was joking at that   BrendaB (6/10/2007 7:42 a.m.)
        
        Perhaps we are close to agreement?   Tracy W (6/11/2007 7:29 p.m.)
        
        I agree with you   BrendaB (6/12/2007 8:54 a.m.)
      - By Regency standards, I don't think any young lady... Line (6/8/2007 6:50 p.m.)

Darcy smile #10 Carolyn (6/6/2007 8:21 p.m.)

It does seem as though Pemberley wipes the slate clean Lila (6/8/2007 12:10 a.m.)
- I don't know that it was "so quickly" JoAnn (6/8/2007 10:09 a.m.)
Impropriety of expression? Adrian (6/7/2007 12:56 p.m.)
- I for one agree with you BrendaB (6/7/2007 8:19 p.m.)
  - Me too Line (6/7/2007 9:44 p.m.)

I'm enjoying this GR immensely -- thanks, Cheryl & all! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/6/2007 7:45 p.m.)

"...they talked of Matlock and Dovedale.... JulieW (6/6/2007 10:06 a.m.)

Absolutely gorgeous... Moni (6/7/2007 10:30 a.m.)
Visited Carolyn's suggested sites, now this - GREAT, thanks! nfm Cathy Allen (6/6/2007 10:51 p.m.)
Speaking of Matlock ... Darcy's uncle Jessica T (6/6/2007 7:39 p.m.)
- No, the book doesn't say Line (6/6/2007 10:01 p.m.)
thanks for filling in so much detail about the things Kris L (6/6/2007 1:24 p.m.)
- The Lake District is JulieW (6/6/2007 1:29 p.m.)
When I first read this reference (being from across the... Adrian (6/6/2007 12:17 p.m.)
- Thanks also William D (6/8/2007 12:32 p.m.)
  - I must say JulieW (6/8/2007 12:56 p.m.)
Breathtaking! Karen 2L (6/6/2007 11:07 a.m.)

The Accustomed Circuit JulieW (6/6/2007 9:21 a.m.)

Here's the link! JulieW (6/6/2007 11:58 a.m.)
- Glorious... Moni (6/7/2007 10:14 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 43 Carolyn (6/5/2007 10:28 p.m.)

What a clever similiarity of description to have noticed! Cathy Allen (6/6/2007 9:29 p.m.)

lol lines chapt 42 Carolyn (6/5/2007 9:55 p.m.)

Totally agree! ;-D (nfm) Moni (6/7/2007 10:04 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 42 Carolyn (6/5/2007 9:50 p.m.)

travelling with a "large party" Cathy Allen (6/5/2007 5:45 p.m.)

A large party with even more servants Mary Ellen (6/6/2007 12:48 p.m.)
- Mary Ellen, I'm not sure... Line (6/6/2007 6:49 p.m.)
  - Perhaps you are correct, but... Mary Ellen (6/9/2007 3:34 a.m.)
Would the logistics been staggering? Tracy W (6/5/2007 9:39 p.m.)
- Let's stay on topic Myretta (6/6/2007 6:31 a.m.)
What did JA mean by "a large party"? Line (6/5/2007 7:10 p.m.)
- Thanks, Line, I think you are correct Cathy Allen (6/6/2007 4:00 p.m.)
- A large party, part 2 Line (6/5/2007 7:51 p.m.)
  - I always thought this was just exaggerated gossip! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/6/2007 4:02 p.m.)
    - Yes, it's definitely gossip Line (6/6/2007 6:39 p.m.)

Chapter 41 – Elizabeth and Wickham: parting of ways Cathy Allen (6/5/2007 2:23 p.m.)

Why was Mrs Reynolds JulieW (6/5/2007 9:20 a.m.)

Makes sense... Moni (6/7/2007 9:58 a.m.)
Gilpin, yes - art, no? Line (6/5/2007 6:42 p.m.)
- I think that phrase JulieW (6/6/2007 5:30 a.m.)
  - maybe viewing family portraits? Cathy Allen (6/6/2007 5:45 p.m.)
  - Thanks, Julie - you're probably right :-) (nfm) Line (6/6/2007 8:11 a.m.)
thank you! I too wondered how people could Kris L (6/5/2007 6:24 p.m.)
- Here are some old posts JulieW (6/6/2007 5:53 a.m.)
  - thank you. very illuminating . nfm Kris L (6/6/2007 1:34 p.m.)
Julie, I was going to ask about this today! Cathy Allen (6/5/2007 2:53 p.m.)
- Spooky :-) JulieW (6/5/2007 3:56 p.m.)

More first impressions Line (6/5/2007 8:10 a.m.)

Good point Kathi (6/5/2007 11:01 a.m.)

Sisters, sisters Graciela (6/4/2007 11:58 p.m.)

Sister relationships (Long) Robbin (6/7/2007 12:04 a.m.)
- I don't say that Kitty and Lydia Graciela (6/11/2007 9:56 p.m.)
  - Exertion should always be in proportion to what is required Adrian (6/12/2007 12:37 p.m.)
  - Well... Robbin (6/12/2007 6:51 a.m.)
- One more pair: Mrs. Bennet and Mrs. Phillips Adrian (6/7/2007 1:11 p.m.)
  - Oh! That is a great point... Robbin (6/7/2007 1:30 p.m.)

Wherever you and Jane are known Carolyn (6/4/2007 10:46 p.m.)

Mr. B is in la-la land Jessica T (6/4/2007 11:34 p.m.)
- Exactly JulieW (6/5/2007 4:31 a.m.)
  - In spite of her character flaws and the mortification she causes Sansanee (6/5/2007 10:35 a.m.)

Wickham's facial expression Carolyn (6/4/2007 10:24 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 41 Carolyn (6/4/2007 10:11 p.m.)

Focus: Voices: Lydia Tracy W (6/4/2007 6:26 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 40 Carolyn (6/4/2007 1:22 p.m.)

Yes, she does have... Moni (6/5/2007 5:33 a.m.)
And Jane's similarity to Elizabeth Tracy W (6/4/2007 6:05 p.m.)

Elizabeths "power" over Darcy Michaela (6/4/2007 2:02 a.m.)

On second proposals Line (6/4/2007 11:38 p.m.)
Lizzy's and her power over Darcy Kathi (6/4/2007 8:38 a.m.)
- I think JulieW (6/4/2007 8:43 a.m.)
  - It was Charlotte's prediction ... Kathi (6/4/2007 9:18 a.m.)
    - Hmm..I do not agree with you that JulieW (6/4/2007 9:59 a.m.)
      - What Charlotte meant by "power"   Kathi (6/4/2007 11:03 a.m.)
        
        I'm sorry   JulieW (6/4/2007 11:40 a.m.)
        
        Thanks to you both   Michaela (6/4/2007 12:18 p.m.)

Ch. 43 Cheryl Kay (6/3/2007 11:37 p.m.)

Refreshments Lisa Maree (6/12/2007 3:33 a.m.)
Slow-moving aunts Sansanee (6/4/2007 5:36 p.m.)
- The timing is wrong at this stage Tracy W (6/4/2007 6:01 p.m.)
  - That makes sense - thanks! (nfm) Sansanee (6/4/2007 9:58 p.m.)

Blushing Line (6/3/2007 8:19 p.m.)

Poor blushing Darcy! Rebecca K (6/4/2007 2:04 a.m.)

Ch.43: Astonishment, civility and alteration Line (6/3/2007 8:33 a.m.)

Answer to the P.S Marie C (6/3/2007 2:34 p.m.)
- Perhaps he has been practicing Jessica T (6/3/2007 5:17 p.m.)
  - More realistic? Why? Kathi (6/4/2007 1:05 a.m.)
    - And let us not forget that Austen... Karen 2L (6/4/2007 9:13 a.m.)
      - I guess I"ll have to wait 'til Ch 60 ...   Jessica T (6/4/2007 1:22 p.m.)
        
        Potential and catalyst   Robbin (6/4/2007 3:52 p.m.)
        
        I agree ... sorry I was unclear   Jessica T (6/4/2007 7:37 p.m.)
    - Well… Robbin (6/4/2007 3:46 a.m.)
    - realistic? Jessica T (6/4/2007 1:36 a.m.)
  - Do we know when Lady Anne died? Karen 2L (6/3/2007 9:24 p.m.)
  - You have hit on a truth William D (6/3/2007 8:21 p.m.)
    - Perhaps he melts ... ie: more shyness Jessica T (6/3/2007 10:58 p.m.)
      - An unembarrassed observer Adrian (6/4/2007 1:37 p.m.)
      - Shy Darcy in the text? Robbin (6/4/2007 4:30 a.m.)
  - Ooooh, the "Is Darcy shy?" debate! Line (6/3/2007 8:07 p.m.)
    - Or is Darcy 'deep'? William D (6/4/2007 6:12 p.m.)
      - I think he is deep/complex and shy... Lila (6/6/2007 11:21 p.m.)
        
        The narrator's explanation Kathi (6/7/2007 12:24 a.m.)
      - Certainly he is complex ... Jessica T (6/4/2007 7:40 p.m.)

Determined to be pleased Cheryl (6/2/2007 10:37 p.m.)

Darcy's determination Line (6/3/2007 7:47 a.m.)
- I think you have an excellent point here Marie C (6/3/2007 8:48 a.m.)
  - Another good point! Line (6/3/2007 7:59 p.m.)

To Pemberley, therefore, they were to go. Cheryl (6/2/2007 10:30 p.m.)

Lizzie's Change of Heart BarbaraB (6/3/2007 5:58 p.m.)
- Change of heart Cheryl Kay (6/3/2007 11:13 p.m.)
  - Your characterization makes Elizabeth appear a bit shallow... Lila (6/5/2007 12:50 a.m.)
    - Some questions Kathi (6/5/2007 6:33 p.m.)
      - Evidence of Lizzy's feelings for Darcy...   Lila (6/6/2007 10:33 p.m.)
        
        Why probe Darcy?   Adrian (6/7/2007 1:49 p.m.)
        
        Well, the Omniscient Narrator...   Line (6/7/2007 8:27 a.m.)
        
        Yet Elizabeth is interested in others' characters   Tracy W (6/7/2007 12:27 a.m.)
        
        "She liked him too little to care for his approbation"   Kathi (6/7/2007 12:08 a.m.)
        
        You have made me reevaluate my earlier views...   Lila (6/7/2007 10:44 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy's feelings of inferiority   Kathi (6/9/2007 1:12 a.m.)
        
        Lizzy’s point of view   Robbin (6/8/2007 8:08 a.m.)
        
        Definitely ironic, IMO   Line (6/8/2007 6:13 p.m.)
      - Had Darcy changed? Or was it Elizabeth?   JoAnn (6/6/2007 12:37 p.m.)
        
        Why not both?   Kathi (6/6/2007 8:07 p.m.)
        
        No doubt   JoAnn (6/7/2007 5:06 p.m.)
    - Sounds like a chicken and egg argument Mary Ellen (6/5/2007 11:47 a.m.)
      - Personally, I have always thought   Marie C (6/5/2007 3:49 p.m.)
        
        Doing the trick   Kathi (6/5/2007 10:05 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Marie C (6/6/2007 5:13 a.m.)
Love the syntax of that sentence Jessica T (6/3/2007 5:20 p.m.)
You're right that Mrs. Reynolds "primes" Elizabeth Line (6/3/2007 7:38 a.m.)
- She didn't say that G. was the handsomest person ;) NFM Graciela (6/3/2007 11:44 p.m.)

Funny Mr. Collins moment again… Robbin (6/2/2007 1:42 p.m.)

Acknowledged favourite Lisa Beth (6/2/2007 1:19 p.m.)

I do not think it is necessarily so jeremy (6/3/2007 7:03 a.m.)
Hi, Lisa Beth - are you new to Pemberley? Laurel (6/2/2007 2:18 p.m.)
- Not New Lisa Beth (6/2/2007 8:38 p.m.)
  - Please reintroduce yourself at the Newbie Board Laurel (6/2/2007 9:06 p.m.)

Brighton (long) JulieW (6/2/2007 1:11 p.m.)

The info is great and I love the pictures! Thanks. nfm ;D Robbin (6/7/2007 1:34 p.m.)
Huge difference with Ramsgate. (nfm) Moni (6/7/2007 9:44 a.m.)
Most interesting; sheds new light on Lydia! Thanks, Julie(nfm) Cathy Allen (6/4/2007 1:17 p.m.)
Scurvy, jaundice, king's-evil... Line (6/2/2007 6:09 p.m.)
How interesting! Thank you Marie C (6/2/2007 3:34 p.m.)
- Thansk...and a gentle reminder JulieW (6/2/2007 4:44 p.m.)
  - Sorry about that - won't happen again *NFM* Marie C (6/3/2007 8:56 a.m.)

Jane is not happy… Robbin (6/2/2007 1:00 p.m.)

“Remarkable Places”: Industrial Tourism. JulieW (6/2/2007 10:23 a.m.)

Absolutely fascinating! (nfm) Moni (6/5/2007 5:50 a.m.)
Wonderful, Julie -- ditto Robbin's message! Thanks! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/4/2007 12:52 p.m.)
Fascinating ! ~ NFM jeremy (6/3/2007 6:51 a.m.)
I do agree... Robbin (6/2/2007 11:37 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 39 Carolyn (6/1/2007 11:35 p.m.)

Lizzy is shocked about herself again… Robbin (6/2/2007 12:08 p.m.)

Playing Dress Up Carolyn (6/1/2007 11:09 p.m.)

Col Forster, a sensible man... Robbin (6/2/2007 8:32 a.m.)

24 Families Update Carolyn (6/1/2007 11:01 p.m.)

Questions about families Graciela (6/2/2007 12:10 a.m.)
- The season jeremy (6/2/2007 7:44 a.m.)
  - More info Line (6/2/2007 8:05 a.m.)

Lizzy’s feelings for Darcy (chapters 35 to 42) Robbin (6/1/2007 1:41 p.m.)

I see a similarity right from the proposal Tracy W (6/2/2007 7:02 a.m.)
- Avoiding embarrassment Robbin (6/3/2007 2:32 p.m.)
  - Why Lizzy would avoid Pemberley. Adrian (6/3/2007 7:01 p.m.)
    - Hurting Darcy's feelings Kathi (6/4/2007 5:47 a.m.)
      - I do not think Lizzy thought of Darcy's feelings... Adrian (6/4/2007 1:52 p.m.)
Why can't Elizabeth avoid the park? *nfm* Margaret S (6/1/2007 11:07 p.m.)
- Well… Robbin (6/2/2007 7:12 a.m.)
  - Focus on movement: The park gate Margaret S (6/2/2007 9:22 p.m.)
    - Are not Charlotte’s cows pastured in the meadows? Robbin (6/3/2007 3:23 p.m.)
      - An excellent explanation, Robbin -- thank you! nfm Kathi (6/4/2007 8:42 a.m.)
- She does avoid the park... Kathi (6/2/2007 7:02 a.m.)

Darcy's motives in writing the letter Kris L (6/1/2007 12:38 p.m.)

After a rejected proposal, it would have been terrible... Adrian (6/1/2007 1:14 p.m.)
- I think you have it just right, Adrian Cathy Allen (6/1/2007 4:20 p.m.)
  - Your posting just made me wonder about something... Lila (6/1/2007 7:39 p.m.)
    - This may depend on your definition of love Tracy W (6/2/2007 7:08 a.m.)
      - Darcy appears to be a deliberate character...   Lila (6/3/2007 8:36 p.m.)
        
        Interesting argument   Tracy W (6/4/2007 8:06 p.m.)
        
        In answer to Tracy W and Adrian....   Lila (6/4/2007 11:33 p.m.)
        
        I agree with you. Very well put! (nfm)   Lisa M. (6/11/2007 11:43 a.m.)
        
        Lust versus infatuation   Tracy W (6/5/2007 5:23 p.m.)
        
        Lust vs Healthy desire   Ramya (6/5/2007 6:17 p.m.)
        
        You can love someone and still hurt them   Tracy W (6/5/2007 9:23 p.m.)
        
        Clarification   Ramya (6/5/2007 10:11 p.m.)
        
        Is not general incivility the very essence of love?   Adrian (6/6/2007 1:15 p.m.)
        
        General incivility not specific   Ramya (6/6/2007 2:27 p.m.)
        
        Exactly!   Line (6/6/2007 6:33 p.m.)
        
        Thank you for responding in your final paragraph...   Adrian (6/6/2007 6:55 p.m.)
        
        The difficulty of courtship in Regency times   Tracy W (6/5/2007 11:36 p.m.)
        
        Inadequate courtship and mixed signals   Ramya (6/6/2007 2:24 p.m.)
        
        One detail   Deb A. (6/6/2007 9:16 a.m.)
        
        Oops. forgot that, thanks (nfm)   Tracy W (6/6/2007 5:28 p.m.)
        
        Low-key is one thing...   Line (6/6/2007 8:20 a.m.)
        
        I do think Elizabeth was being obtuse for another reason   Tracy W (6/6/2007 5:23 p.m.)
        
        Absolutely, but that's not courting, IMO!   Line (6/6/2007 6:44 p.m.)
        
        I will never seek to defend Darcy's skill at courting   Tracy W (6/7/2007 12:12 a.m.)
        
        Unsurprising?   Kathi (6/7/2007 12:31 a.m.)
        
        Are we reading the same book? :)   Tracy W (6/7/2007 5:06 p.m.)
        
        I don't know, are we? ;-)   Kathi (6/7/2007 9:09 p.m.)
        
        Time to stop (nfm)   Myretta (6/7/2007 9:23 p.m.)
        
        Why would Darcy try to pursuade Lizzy to be...   Adrian (6/6/2007 7:05 p.m.)
        
        Precisely! ;-)   Line (6/6/2007 10:31 p.m.)
        
        Actually I think Darcy does think he is giving Lizzy...   Adrian (6/7/2007 2:04 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Kathi (6/6/2007 8:44 a.m.)
        
        Thank you for this summary of Darcy`s courtship (nfm)   Michaela (6/6/2007 2:36 a.m.)
        
        I too have felt   Ramya (6/4/2007 11:51 p.m.)
        
        You make a good case for Darcy to fall for Jane...   Adrian (6/4/2007 2:11 p.m.)
    - Darcy's love and respect for Lizzy Rebecca K (6/1/2007 9:41 p.m.)
      - Agreed   Margaret S (6/1/2007 11:10 p.m.)
        
        Touche'. nfm   Lila (6/3/2007 8:42 p.m.)
        
        Yes, a voyage of self-discovery   Jessica T (6/2/2007 11:04 a.m.)
        
        Good point nfm   Rebecca K (6/1/2007 11:41 p.m.)

Questions about beautiful ornaments and petrified spars Line (5/31/2007 11:59 p.m.)

And yes, Circulating Libraries JulieW (6/1/2007 5:17 a.m.)
Tourist Souveniers JulieW (6/1/2007 4:54 a.m.)
- Thanks again, Julie! :-) Line (6/1/2007 8:11 a.m.)

A mistake? Carolyn (5/31/2007 11:57 p.m.)

How much did Denny need to know? Adrian (6/1/2007 12:22 p.m.)
Many possibilities jeremy (6/1/2007 1:52 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 38 Carolyn (5/31/2007 11:37 p.m.)

Elizabeth's "balancing the truth with civility" Cathy Allen (6/1/2007 11:52 a.m.)
- This is a lesson that Darcy must learn... Karen 2L (6/1/2007 12:09 p.m.)
  - Mark of a true gentleman... Robbin (6/2/2007 9:01 a.m.)
A very delicate operation, indeed Rose G (6/1/2007 8:09 a.m.)
- Suspicion was not in her nature Adrian (6/1/2007 12:29 p.m.)
  - Dear, sweet Jane Rose G (6/4/2007 8:14 a.m.)
  - This is a good answer... William D (6/3/2007 7:36 p.m.)
    - But there IS distance Helen B (6/4/2007 9:01 a.m.)
    - Another black mark against P&P3... Rose G (6/4/2007 8:13 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 37 Carolyn (5/31/2007 11:27 p.m.)

Mr. B; after 6 weeks, probably ready to tear out his hair! (nfm) Cathy Allen (6/1/2007 11:10 a.m.)

Darcy's courtesy - his letter, proposal, and Wickham... Emmy (5/31/2007 5:10 p.m.)

Darcy loves Lizzy just the same Rebecca K (6/1/2007 11:13 p.m.)
- I don't think Darcy's address of Elizabeth has anything to do... Lila (6/4/2007 11:57 p.m.)
Disguise of every sort Robbin (6/1/2007 10:21 a.m.)
Wishing for impossible things jeremy (6/1/2007 2:04 a.m.)
I have noticed that about Darcy's treatment of Wickham Graciela (5/31/2007 10:58 p.m.)
- Caroline , a snob Marie C (6/1/2007 3:26 a.m.)

Chapter 40 – Jane’s goodness Cathy Allen (5/31/2007 2:54 p.m.)

More goodness... Moni (6/1/2007 7:52 a.m.)
- Jane has reasons to be empathetic with parted... Adrian (6/1/2007 12:36 p.m.)
  - That's right (nfm) Moni (6/5/2007 5:29 a.m.)

Darcy's letter and Col F (Ch 35) Emmy (5/31/2007 10:07 a.m.)

May I suggest a possible answer Marie C (5/31/2007 2:49 p.m.)
- Sounds quite plausible to me... Emmy (5/31/2007 4:56 p.m.)
And what else does it say... Karen 2L (5/31/2007 10:52 a.m.)
I like this... Moni (5/31/2007 10:43 a.m.)
- Col. Fitz's willingness to divulge Jessica T (6/2/2007 11:25 a.m.)
  - It means even more... Moni (6/5/2007 5:37 a.m.)
    - More than good form,... Adrian (6/5/2007 2:05 p.m.)
      - Yes, indeed! (nfm) Moni (6/6/2007 5:09 a.m.)

Lydia's character -- or lack therof! Cathy Allen (5/30/2007 11:19 p.m.)

She is 15! Outi (5/31/2007 1:29 a.m.)
- Indeed! And I find it reprehensible... Emmy (5/31/2007 9:51 a.m.)
  - Neglect ( Long) Mary B (6/1/2007 11:58 a.m.)
    - A lot of stress for a simple minded woman Robbin (6/2/2007 10:46 a.m.)
      - Putting in a good word for Jane Adrian (6/5/2007 1:40 p.m.)
        
        There is no need to defend Jane from me… Robbin (6/5/2007 8:19 p.m.)
  - I agree Amanda Lee (5/31/2007 2:42 p.m.)

“…and as Dawson does not object to the barouche-box…” Cathy Allen (5/30/2007 11:06 p.m.)

Lady Catherine does mention Dawson's preferences Tracy W (5/30/2007 11:37 p.m.)
Not to mention that... Emmy (5/30/2007 11:30 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 36 Carolyn (5/29/2007 11:11 p.m.)

Bravo, Carolyn! You've summarized JA's Elizabeth perfectly!(nfm) Cathy Allen (5/30/2007 10:38 p.m.)
I cannot understand so well Lizzy's turmoil ... Kris L (5/30/2007 12:38 p.m.)
- Her turmoil is understandable Lila (5/30/2007 8:57 p.m.)
  - Elizabeth isn't bothered by rejecting Darcy in itself Tracy W (5/30/2007 9:51 p.m.)
    - That makes her a truly liberated woman .... Kris L (5/31/2007 6:02 p.m.)
      - I thought Elizabeth was thinking about the future   Tracy W (5/31/2007 7:00 p.m.)
        
        I think you are reading too much into this...   Lila (5/31/2007 10:57 p.m.)
        
        At this stage does Elizabeth have reason to believe...   Tracy W (6/1/2007 1:05 a.m.)
        
        I don't think so   Line (5/31/2007 11:39 p.m.)
        
        I see your point...   Lila (6/1/2007 10:33 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy knows that she only partly misjudged ...   Kathi (6/2/2007 7:17 a.m.)
        
        Exactly, + note to Lila   Line (6/2/2007 7:50 a.m.)
        
        Good points from both Kathi and Line...   Lila (6/2/2007 12:34 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy's feelings for Darcy (a bit long)   Kathi (6/2/2007 10:10 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy was not guilty of implacable resentment   Robbin (6/3/2007 4:05 p.m.)
        
        By the way I apologize for the grammatical errors in my   Lila (6/2/2007 12:47 p.m.)
        
        Your meaning was perfectly clear - no need to apologize! :-)   Line (6/2/2007 6:25 p.m.)
        
        Thanks for linking that excellent resource again, Line. nfm   Kathi (6/2/2007 10:51 p.m.)
        
        I agree Line...very well said. :D nfm   Robbin (6/2/2007 8:05 a.m.)
        
        Darcy's objections (long)   Graciela (6/2/2007 12:30 a.m.)
- Probably yes, Tracy W (5/30/2007 5:12 p.m.)
  - Great points Tracy W... Robbin (5/30/2007 7:26 p.m.)
- Not a difference between modern and Regency sensibilities Robbin (5/30/2007 1:53 p.m.)
  - I see your point - she shock of self discovery ... Kris L (5/30/2007 6:18 p.m.)
Your right... Robbin (5/30/2007 6:53 a.m.)
- Is she really trying to be an agreeable companion? JoAnn (5/31/2007 12:28 p.m.)
  - Well… Robbin (6/1/2007 9:53 a.m.)
- I also admire Lizzy's fortitude and William D (5/30/2007 5:45 p.m.)
- Agree, Carolyn's post... Moni (5/30/2007 8:41 a.m.)
  - It may be just a story but William D (5/30/2007 5:46 p.m.)
    - Yes, indeed!;-) (nfm) Moni (5/31/2007 10:49 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 35 Carolyn (5/29/2007 10:34 p.m.)

Actually I think Darcy was right jeremy (5/30/2007 3:02 a.m.)
- A matter of honor Robbin (6/1/2007 9:09 a.m.)
- That Darcy had often seen ... Kathi (5/31/2007 10:25 p.m.)
  - Darcy’s observations are a bit unreliable Robbin (6/1/2007 7:22 a.m.)
Some additional thoughts Susan L (5/29/2007 11:10 p.m.)

"... an establishment formed for her in London..." Cathy Allen (5/29/2007 2:18 p.m.)

She is now 16, I think Rose G (5/30/2007 5:08 a.m.)
- I'm still puzzled... Karen 2L (5/30/2007 9:14 a.m.)
  - That Darcy! Mary Ellen (5/30/2007 5:14 p.m.)
    - Isn't that what Mrs. Annesley or Younge is for? Karen 2L (5/31/2007 7:36 a.m.)
  - She may live in Darcy's London house, but... Adrian (5/30/2007 1:58 p.m.)
    - I need to download that Johnson's Dictionary ...nfm William D (5/30/2007 5:29 p.m.)
  - Good point jeremy (5/30/2007 11:30 a.m.)
    - There would appear to be JulieW (5/30/2007 2:07 p.m.)
      - Thanks, Julie; I didn't know about the end of the book! Cathy Allen (5/30/2007 4:21 p.m.)
        
        Shhhhh......;-) JulieW (5/30/2007 4:57 p.m.)

Focus: Voices: Lady Catherine Tracy W (5/29/2007 5:55 a.m.)

Darcy's "haughtiness" Line (5/28/2007 6:24 p.m.)

Fundamentally, I think Elizabeth is simply William D (5/29/2007 8:19 p.m.)
- A tendency to misjuged others at first? Kathi (5/30/2007 1:02 a.m.)
  - Perhaps not a first impression, I but I believe Emmy (5/30/2007 2:14 p.m.)
    - What really strikes me about Elizabeth JoAnn (5/31/2007 12:42 p.m.)
    - The comment I was responding to ... Kathi (5/31/2007 2:59 a.m.)
    - I agree Outi (5/31/2007 1:23 a.m.)
- Agree nfm BarbaraB (5/29/2007 11:56 p.m.)

Ch.37: A piece of irony Line (5/28/2007 6:18 p.m.)

Oh, definitely! Rose G (5/30/2007 5:05 a.m.)

To Moni: Courtship customs Line (5/28/2007 5:57 p.m.)

Definitely wiggle room! Rose G (5/29/2007 9:15 a.m.)
- A difference between Jane and Bingley Line (5/31/2007 11:49 p.m.)
  - We have only Darcy's word (and interpretation)... Adrian (6/1/2007 1:19 p.m.)
  - Just read that line myself :) nfm Rose G (6/1/2007 8:04 a.m.)
Trick question?... Moni (5/29/2007 3:24 a.m.)
- Well, some of us, I think William D (5/29/2007 8:37 p.m.)

Wickham/Soldiers: admittance into society BarbaraB (5/28/2007 5:00 p.m.)

Motives Margaret S (5/28/2007 8:36 p.m.)
I considered the Phillipses as the weak link... Adrian (5/28/2007 7:49 p.m.)

Ramsgate (long) JulieW (5/28/2007 11:42 a.m.)

You have given us a treasure...thank you Julie! *nfm* Elizabeth Sycamore (5/29/2007 11:51 p.m.)
CH. 35 Letter & Elopement... Moni (5/29/2007 6:18 a.m.)
- I don't think that France JulieW (5/29/2007 9:26 a.m.)
  - Being established at Ramsgate Sansanee (5/29/2007 12:13 p.m.)
    - The simple answer is JulieW (5/29/2007 1:35 p.m.)
      - mixing up my phrases Sansanee (5/29/2007 2:26 p.m.)
  - Should have added JulieW (5/29/2007 11:39 a.m.)
    - Covers all the queries... Moni (5/30/2007 5:59 a.m.)
- Attempting to answer some of your questions Line (5/29/2007 8:23 a.m.)
  - Thanks, Line ;-) (nfm) Moni (5/30/2007 6:00 a.m.)
Many thanks for a fantatasic post ~ NFM jeremy (5/29/2007 4:01 a.m.)
Ramsgate is in Kent, so would Georgiana visit her aunt... Lia (5/28/2007 9:42 p.m.)
- I don´t imagine Georgiana Graciela (5/28/2007 10:22 p.m.)
  - Just noticed that after I posted, and Lia (5/29/2007 9:44 a.m.)
    - It was your post that gave me the idea. Graciela (5/29/2007 1:29 p.m.)
Wonderful, Julie! thanks. NFM Helen Halstead (5/28/2007 6:35 p.m.)
And more questions... Line (5/28/2007 5:36 p.m.)
- Card Assemblies JulieW (5/28/2007 6:46 p.m.)
  - Would "fish" also be provided/exchanged by the ... Adrian (5/28/2007 7:52 p.m.)
Great post! Robbin (5/28/2007 2:20 p.m.)
As always, amazing! Thank you. nfm nan duval (5/28/2007 12:19 p.m.)

Wickham's mother Line (5/28/2007 8:18 a.m.)

I think if she was still alive Tracy W (5/28/2007 6:53 p.m.)

A difference between the novel and P&P2 Line (5/28/2007 8:11 a.m.)

Just on this passage Lisa Maree (5/29/2007 3:16 a.m.)
- The way I read it Line (5/29/2007 8:04 a.m.)
The demands of different media? Tracy W (5/28/2007 6:56 p.m.)

Lizzys reaction to the letter Michaela (5/27/2007 6:35 a.m.)

Though she loves her sister Ann2 (5/27/2007 12:02 p.m.)
Yes, she's joking - that's Elizabeth's way! :-) (nfm) Line (5/27/2007 9:04 a.m.)

A simple question John S2 (5/27/2007 6:13 a.m.)

Both! Marie C (5/27/2007 10:57 a.m.)
- Actually it helps a lot John S2 (5/27/2007 3:07 p.m.)
  - Very interesting initiative Marie C (5/28/2007 1:21 a.m.)
    - I believe you are on to something! John S2 (5/28/2007 2:51 a.m.)

I cannot blame myself for having done thus much. Robbin (5/27/2007 2:09 a.m.)

Interesting post! Line (5/27/2007 9:25 a.m.)
- Good point! (;D) Robbin (5/27/2007 9:05 p.m.)
  - I *think* that's it Line (5/28/2007 8:03 a.m.)
    - Name, rank & annual income nan duval (5/28/2007 11:48 a.m.)

General thoughts on the letter… Robbin (5/27/2007 1:37 a.m.)

More time needed Sansanee (5/29/2007 10:13 a.m.)
Well in Darcy's defence he does change during the letter Tracy W (5/29/2007 6:02 a.m.)
- The rejection is all about Darcy… Robbin (5/29/2007 9:06 a.m.)
I wonder, though, whether William D (5/27/2007 9:10 p.m.)

Mr. Bennet's comment about Wickham... Emmy (5/27/2007 12:20 a.m.)

Mr. B is just teasing Lizzy John S2 (5/27/2007 1:08 a.m.)
- Mr. Bennet makes a comment in P&P2 to the affect of Emmy (5/28/2007 11:23 a.m.)
  - AD's creation Line (5/28/2007 5:18 p.m.)

Elizabeth's contradictions.. Emmy (5/27/2007 12:16 a.m.)

The Omniscient Narrator... Line (5/27/2007 7:39 a.m.)
Recognizing her contradictions Marie C (5/27/2007 4:50 a.m.)
- At the time of this post, neither the proposal nor Darcy's letter Emmy (5/28/2007 11:18 a.m.)

Charlotte's parish and poultry Cheryl (5/26/2007 11:50 p.m.)

poetic techniques Jessica T (5/27/2007 12:03 a.m.)

Elizabeth's reaction to The Letter Cheryl (5/26/2007 11:49 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 34 Carolyn (5/26/2007 11:17 p.m.)

Between what you and Robbin are saying Jen K (5/27/2007 7:52 p.m.)
Assumed tranquility Line (5/27/2007 7:33 a.m.)

Darcy smile #9 Carolyn (5/26/2007 10:38 p.m.)

That smile Line (5/27/2007 7:27 a.m.)

Darcy Smile #8 Carolyn (5/26/2007 10:06 p.m.)

Fortune to make the expence unimportant Ann2 (5/27/2007 12:25 p.m.)
- A glimpse Danae (5/29/2007 5:49 p.m.)
- Well now that you suggest it, it makes a lot of sense. (nfm) Silvia O (5/27/2007 10:01 p.m.)
- Well said ! This may provide a clue to the scene. Marie C (5/27/2007 2:45 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 33 Carolyn (5/26/2007 9:50 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 32 Carolyn (5/25/2007 11:33 p.m.)

Thank you Carolyn Marie C (5/27/2007 5:10 a.m.)

Darcy smile #6 & #7 Carolyn (5/25/2007 11:11 p.m.)

I love this focus Lynn (5/26/2007 9:59 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 31 Carolyn (5/25/2007 10:49 p.m.)

Not merely those who can speak well Tracy W (5/27/2007 5:54 p.m.)
Did the act of... Moni (5/26/2007 9:19 a.m.)

Lizzy misunderstands Darcy (Chapter 30 to 33) Robbin (5/24/2007 11:27 p.m.)

And yet Elizabeth reacts differently to Mr. Darcy´s proposal John S2 (5/25/2007 12:59 p.m.)
- Darcy was sincere, and Lizzy was unprepared. Lia (5/25/2007 9:55 p.m.)
  - I agree about the surprise - more evidence in ch.35 Line (5/27/2007 8:31 a.m.)
- Two very different to very different men.... Karen 2L (5/25/2007 5:04 p.m.)
  - A man of consequence John S2 (5/25/2007 5:59 p.m.)
    - No, she didn't want him.... Karen 2L (5/25/2007 6:05 p.m.)
      - I think there is something more to it   John S2 (5/25/2007 6:41 p.m.)
        
        How can Lizzy just write him off...   Karen 2L (5/25/2007 9:14 p.m.)
        
        I submit this evidence   John S2 (5/26/2007 2:31 a.m.)
        
        John, I think we're agreeing....   Karen 2L (5/26/2007 9:55 a.m.)
        
        In that case   JulieW (5/26/2007 1:07 p.m.)
        
        Group Read Guidelines   Cheryl (5/25/2007 8:46 p.m.)
        
        Thank you   John S2 (5/26/2007 2:13 a.m.)
        
        Indeed   Cheryl (5/26/2007 12:10 p.m.)
        
        You are right - Ouch! Thanks. nfm   John S2 (5/26/2007 4:27 p.m.)
        
        And she MAY write him off: not much time elapses...   Adrian (5/25/2007 8:17 p.m.)
        
        Elizabeth has her feelings worked out already.   Helen Halstead (5/26/2007 12:25 a.m.)
        
        No unconscious attraction was suggested...   Adrian (5/26/2007 12:11 p.m.)
        
        We're just at the end of the proposal, though.   Helen Halstead (5/26/2007 7:20 p.m.)
        
        I'll try one final time to be clearer   Adrian (5/27/2007 1:14 p.m.)
        
        I see now but ....   Helen Halstead (5/27/2007 6:06 p.m.)
        
        Yes, agree, she knows...   Moni (5/26/2007 7:04 a.m.)
- Self-doubt? Self-realization? Adrian (5/25/2007 3:37 p.m.)

Darcy misunderstands Lizzy (chapters 30 to 33) Robbin (5/24/2007 10:33 p.m.)

He's not completely wrong at all.... Arnie Perlstein (5/25/2007 7:52 a.m.)
- Subconscious attraction Line (5/25/2007 5:58 p.m.)
  - thanks! nfm arnie perlstein (5/26/2007 10:21 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 30 Carolyn (5/24/2007 9:46 p.m.)

LC's seeming almost angry... Adrian (5/25/2007 4:05 p.m.)
- Simpler than that, IMHO Linda (5/25/2007 5:22 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 29 Carolyn (5/24/2007 9:26 p.m.)

The original Mr Collins? Tracy W (5/24/2007 7:32 p.m.)

A remarkable likeness... Rachel G (5/25/2007 6:01 a.m.)

What was an improved mind (as opposed to the ordinary kind)? Line (5/24/2007 6:40 p.m.)

I agree with the real estate analogy nan duval (5/28/2007 1:36 p.m.)
If "improved mind" = education, is "understanding Adrian (5/25/2007 4:26 p.m.)
- And Jane Linda (5/25/2007 5:11 p.m.)
Education I think Tracy W (5/24/2007 7:16 p.m.)
- Thanks for going to the trouble of... Line (5/25/2007 5:53 p.m.)

The Proposal (gasp!) Cathy Allen (5/24/2007 3:30 p.m.)

I still have trouble with the notion... Karen 2L (5/25/2007 6:00 p.m.)
- Mr. Darcy did NOT insult Elizabeth in public Cathy Allen (5/26/2007 12:16 a.m.)
  - Lizzy just had superhuman hearing. nfm nan duval (5/28/2007 4:17 p.m.)
  - I hope someone will correct me if I'm wrong, but Cathy Allen (5/27/2007 11:30 a.m.)
    - Not really... Robbin (5/27/2007 7:31 p.m.)
      - And it's not just Elizabeth's opinion Tracy W (5/27/2007 8:21 p.m.)
        
        CH. 31 Colonel Fitzwilliam says... Moni (5/28/2007 4:41 a.m.)
    - Not quite Line (5/27/2007 2:54 p.m.)
  - Of course he did... Karen 2L (5/26/2007 7:38 p.m.)
  - You are right… Robbin (5/26/2007 6:42 p.m.)
  - By the way John S2 (5/26/2007 6:29 a.m.)
    - John.... JulieW (5/26/2007 7:51 a.m.)
    - No problem discussing material in *previous* chapters - it's the Line (5/26/2007 7:28 a.m.)
      - I think I have it straight now - Thanks. nfm John S2 (5/26/2007 4:38 p.m.)
  - I agree it was not on purpose John S2 (5/26/2007 6:06 a.m.)
    - I cannot agree that Darcy was so shallow to ... Adrian (5/26/2007 12:22 p.m.)
      - Excellent point! John S2 (5/26/2007 4:56 p.m.)
  - He was audible therefore did not care... Helen Halstead (5/26/2007 12:40 a.m.)
    - Yes, and the public nature... Moni (5/26/2007 9:27 a.m.)
- Though I am genreally pro-Darcy, I have to agree with you (nfm) Silvia O (5/25/2007 9:08 p.m.)
Honesty and kindness Line (5/24/2007 6:30 p.m.)
- Not a PERFECT gentleman, Line, I agree, but Cathy Allen (5/25/2007 12:24 p.m.)
  - That quotation... Line (5/25/2007 6:06 p.m.)
    - Ah, good explanation, thanks Line! Makes sense. (nfm) Cathy Allen (5/25/2007 6:51 p.m.)
  - It seems odd for a gentleman like him... John S2 (5/25/2007 5:06 p.m.)
    - Was Darcy's proposal a rational decision? Tracy W (5/26/2007 12:57 a.m.)
      - Darcy is agitated Robbin (5/26/2007 6:55 p.m.)
      - I disagree John S2 (5/26/2007 5:39 p.m.)
      - Good argument. nfm Susan L (5/26/2007 5:17 a.m.)
    - I too don't see Darcy consulting anyone ... Helen Halstead (5/25/2007 7:47 p.m.)
      - I can now offer this evidence   John S2 (5/27/2007 4:30 a.m.)
        
        Are you serious, John?   Helen Halstead (5/28/2007 6:09 a.m.)
        
        How would a second opinion help?   Tracy W (5/27/2007 5:14 p.m.)
        
        Young love   John S2 (5/28/2007 2:16 a.m.)
        
        Darcy's infatuation "winning"   Kathi (5/29/2007 12:15 a.m.)
        
        Different definitions?   Tracy W (5/28/2007 4:40 p.m.)
        
        I think we are close   John S2 (5/28/2007 7:33 p.m.)
        
        Agreed then   Tracy W (5/28/2007 7:51 p.m.)
        
        Yes nfm   John S2 (5/28/2007 8:08 p.m.)
        
        Constant intimacy   Line (5/27/2007 8:24 a.m.)
    - I don't find it odd at all Line (5/25/2007 6:12 p.m.)
      - Good point, Line   Cathy Allen (5/25/2007 6:57 p.m.)
        
        The friendly unavailable Colonel   John S2 (5/25/2007 7:15 p.m.)
        
        It is indeed a line from P&P2...   Karen 2L (5/25/2007 9:18 p.m.)

Deletions Cheryl (5/24/2007 1:23 p.m.)

My apologies, Cheryl... Arnie Perlstein (5/24/2007 8:07 p.m.)
- now i'm puzzled again arnie perlstein (5/24/2007 9:53 p.m.)
  - You missed a spoiler (nfm) Linda (5/25/2007 5:56 a.m.)
    - I'm 99.9% sure I caught that one this time! Arnie Perlstein (5/25/2007 8:44 a.m.)

Pale with anger JulieW (5/24/2007 9:19 a.m.)

A few lines further down.. Carolyn (5/26/2007 10:45 p.m.)
- Yes, I think that's it (nfm) Line (5/27/2007 7:29 a.m.)
Aw, you beat me to it! ;-) Line (5/24/2007 6:43 p.m.)
- Diverting blood to the muscles Tracy W (5/24/2007 6:48 p.m.)
  - I think the crucial threshold question is... Arnie Perlstein (5/25/2007 8:22 a.m.)
IMO Darcy went white for... Moni (5/24/2007 12:29 p.m.)
Red and white Cheryl (5/24/2007 11:39 a.m.)
- Perhaps because of being... Reeba (5/24/2007 11:55 a.m.)

The Comfort of the Billiard Table JulieW (5/24/2007 7:48 a.m.)

Very interesting; never thought of a billiard table in this way Cathy Allen (5/24/2007 11:50 a.m.)
- If we have not Jane, we have Julie, the next best thing! *nfm* Elizabeth Sycamore (5/24/2007 4:04 p.m.)

Chapter 29 has to be the funniest chapter so far! Cathy Allen (5/23/2007 10:31 p.m.)

My favorite is... Emmy (5/24/2007 3:55 p.m.)
Sitting at the bottom of the table Adrian (5/24/2007 12:30 p.m.)
- The host and hostess JulieW (5/24/2007 1:21 p.m.)
Wonderful quotes! Rose G (5/24/2007 3:52 a.m.)

29: "[Y]our Ladyship can hardly expect me to own it." Silvia O (5/23/2007 5:21 p.m.)

Oh well, I was not as wrong as I thought. Silvia O (5/25/2007 9:10 p.m.)
I think... Robbin (5/23/2007 8:59 p.m.)
- Yes, "own" as in "own up to" (nfm) Line (5/23/2007 9:51 p.m.)

Pole Screens R Us JulieW (5/23/2007 2:20 p.m.)

P&P2 Has several pole screens Ana L (5/29/2007 11:19 a.m.)
- My pleasure ! JulieW (5/29/2007 11:31 a.m.)
On the last picture... Robbin (5/23/2007 9:51 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 28 Carolyn (5/23/2007 12:01 a.m.)

Rule# 2 Reeba (5/24/2007 3:38 p.m.)
Your quotes prove my premise: Charlotte did the right thing! Cathy Allen (5/24/2007 11:16 a.m.)
Love this post! Robbin (5/23/2007 10:14 p.m.)
- I have always felt a little disconcerted Marie C (5/27/2007 8:38 a.m.)
  - Defensive perhaps… Robbin (5/27/2007 2:46 p.m.)
    - Yes, that's the way I see it too Line (5/27/2007 2:58 p.m.)
- 'Perfectly' happy Rose G (5/24/2007 4:02 a.m.)

Lizzy and the not so elusive Col F Robbin (5/22/2007 11:19 p.m.)

Suitor #3 Line (5/23/2007 10:25 p.m.)
Lizzy and the Colonel Rose G (5/23/2007 6:06 a.m.)
- Maybe very subtle indications Tracy W (5/23/2007 7:48 p.m.)
- In P&P3 .... Kris L (5/23/2007 12:56 p.m.)
  - Darcy is wrong… Robbin (5/23/2007 3:20 p.m.)
    - Gentlemen’s choice Margaret S (5/25/2007 2:04 p.m.)
      - Why Elizabeth wasn't dancing Line (5/25/2007 6:30 p.m.)
        
        Lydia and Kitty at the assembly ball Robbin (5/26/2007 5:51 p.m.)
      - I had always imagined that Lizzy sat down... Adrian (5/25/2007 4:50 p.m.)
    - He certainly is..... JulieW (5/23/2007 4:28 p.m.)
      - At the pianoforte… Robbin (5/23/2007 9:43 p.m.)
- Apparent favoritism even when she does not feel it… Robbin (5/23/2007 9:21 a.m.)
  - Unpopular views... Moni (5/23/2007 10:03 a.m.)
    - I always thought so too. :) *nfm* Margaret S (5/25/2007 2:01 p.m.)
    - Correction and more... Moni (5/23/2007 11:08 a.m.)
      - Col Fitzwilliam   Robbin (5/23/2007 9:24 p.m.)
        
        Agree nfm   BarbaraB (5/26/2007 4:03 p.m.)
        
        Curiouser and curiouser...   Moni (5/24/2007 12:42 p.m.)
        
        Courting customs   Line (5/24/2007 6:17 p.m.)
        
        Not serious...   Moni (5/25/2007 2:18 a.m.)
      - Interesting posts, Moni! Helen Halstead (5/23/2007 5:48 p.m.)
        
        Good reading!.. Moni (5/24/2007 12:50 p.m.)
      - Your post reminded me of something   William D (5/23/2007 5:07 p.m.)
        
        Col. F have two functions,   Outi (5/24/2007 1:39 a.m.)
        
        Young by modern standards maybe....   jeremy (5/24/2007 8:00 a.m.)
        
        Actually JA's heroines seem very young to me   Tracy W (5/24/2007 10:22 a.m.)
        
        She is young   Outi (5/24/2007 8:40 a.m.)
        
        Elizabeth's behaviour   Line (5/24/2007 7:54 a.m.)
        
        Agreed - look at the way she treats Jane   Tracy W (5/24/2007 10:34 a.m.)

Verifying Wickham’s story (chapters 29 to 33) Robbin (5/22/2007 10:36 p.m.)

It always strikes me... AnnieB (5/23/2007 5:09 a.m.)
- Well, not quite truthful about... Line (5/23/2007 10:00 p.m.)

Ch.30: Joints of meat as refreshment? Line (5/22/2007 6:56 p.m.)

Frankly, JulieW (5/23/2007 5:19 a.m.)
- Georgian morning... Moni (5/23/2007 9:33 a.m.)
  - Here's an old JulieW (5/23/2007 10:05 a.m.)
    - Helps a lot. Thanks Julie;-) (nfm) Moni (5/23/2007 10:35 a.m.)
      - Thanks again, everybody! (nfm) Line (5/23/2007 9:55 p.m.)
- That's the article I was trying to remember - thanks(nfm) Tracy W (5/23/2007 5:32 a.m.)
The mysterious case of lunch Tracy W (5/22/2007 9:19 p.m.)
She most likely asked ... Linda (5/22/2007 9:05 p.m.)

Word meanings & usage Emmy (5/22/2007 1:11 p.m.)

From my copy JulieW (5/23/2007 8:49 a.m.)
Tolerable, disconcerted, contempt AnnieB (5/23/2007 5:01 a.m.)
- I guess what I meant about contempt is Emmy (5/24/2007 4:00 p.m.)

Sir William, Darcy, & Elizabeth Emmy (5/22/2007 12:53 p.m.)

Perhaps SW is just trying to break the ice John S2 (5/24/2007 7:19 a.m.)
I think Sir Lucas knows more than we would suspect Silvia O (5/23/2007 5:06 p.m.)
I wonder if we can see the invisible hand of Charlotte... Arnie Perlstein (5/22/2007 6:23 p.m.)
- I don't think so Line (5/22/2007 6:26 p.m.)
An interesting thought -- but not necessarily Adrian (5/22/2007 1:05 p.m.)
- In Ch 5, in the "post-mortem" with the Lucases call Emmy (5/23/2007 1:39 a.m.)
- I don't think Darcy's snub was a secret Line (5/22/2007 6:21 p.m.)

CH. 29: Superlatively stupid... Moni (5/22/2007 11:06 a.m.)

Thanks everyone;-) (nfm) Moni (5/23/2007 9:29 a.m.)
Stupid = dull, stupified, lethargic, (sleepy?) -nfm Adrian (5/22/2007 12:34 p.m.)
- I agree - dull or just plain BORING! ;-) (nfm) Line (5/22/2007 6:03 p.m.)
  - I agree... Maria Liourdi (5/22/2007 10:07 p.m.)
    - Again form Johnson's Dictionary JulieW (5/23/2007 9:35 a.m.)
      - Thanks! :-) nfm Maria Liourdi (5/23/2007 10:27 a.m.)

Charlotte -- delusional or thinking ahead? Kathi (5/22/2007 8:12 a.m.)

IMHO JulieW (5/23/2007 4:27 a.m.)
- I agree with all you said ... Kathi (5/23/2007 10:50 p.m.)
  - I'm not sure JulieW (5/24/2007 4:46 a.m.)
    - How well does Charlotte know Elizabeth? Line (5/24/2007 8:15 a.m.)
      - One thing that worries me about Charlotte   Graciela (5/25/2007 11:45 p.m.)
        
        I have always thought (without textual evidence)...   Adrian (5/26/2007 12:30 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Graciela (6/5/2007 1:12 a.m.)
        
        Just an exaggeration   Rose G (6/4/2007 8:08 a.m.)
      - Does Charlotte misconstrue Lizzy, or... Adrian (5/24/2007 12:55 p.m.)
      - Line..... JulieW (5/24/2007 8:49 a.m.)
        
        No problem, Julie! Line (5/24/2007 6:00 p.m.)
Speaking of getting ahead of things, William D (5/22/2007 4:24 p.m.)
- Please take your question to Austenuations (nfm) Linda (5/22/2007 5:07 p.m.)
Thinking ahead... Robbin (5/22/2007 1:01 p.m.)
Livings jeremy (5/22/2007 9:03 a.m.)
- Then what I want to know... Kathi (5/22/2007 9:10 a.m.)
  - IMO this presents a side of... Moni (5/22/2007 10:43 a.m.)
    - Charlotte grows like Mr. Collins Robbin (5/22/2007 9:00 p.m.)
      - Rank and consequence...   Moni (5/23/2007 9:23 a.m.)
        
        Charlotte's respect for rank   Line (5/23/2007 6:42 p.m.)
        
        Charlotte still has sense…   Robbin (5/24/2007 7:47 a.m.)
    - Charlotte may have had nothing specific in mind. Adrian (5/22/2007 12:52 p.m.)
      - Charlotte has to be upwardly mobile... Moni (5/23/2007 6:30 a.m.)

Ch.30: When does Mr. Collins do any pastoral work? Line (5/22/2007 8:00 a.m.)

Dou you think there was much left for him to do? JulieW (5/22/2007 9:29 a.m.)
- "...scold them into harmony and plenty. " Cathy Allen (5/22/2007 3:23 p.m.)
  - Lady Catherine JulieW (5/23/2007 5:35 a.m.)
    - Ah, JulieW, you've done it again Cathy Allen (5/23/2007 7:45 p.m.)

Courtier to Bumpkin Robbin (5/22/2007 2:43 a.m.)

I'm sorry Robbin Emmy (5/23/2007 1:09 a.m.)
- No worries! nfm ;D Robbin (5/23/2007 9:46 p.m.)
Elizabeth's high diversion Graciela (5/22/2007 2:58 p.m.)
This shows what a "fraud" he is JulieW (5/22/2007 9:35 a.m.)
- One question I had about Sir William Graciela (5/23/2007 2:49 p.m.)
  - It is not necessary to post corrections Linda (5/25/2007 2:02 p.m.)
    - I posted the correction because Graciela (5/25/2007 6:02 p.m.)
      - Oops insurance Linda (5/26/2007 9:54 a.m.)
- Calculating too... Moni (5/22/2007 10:58 a.m.)
I especially noticed Sir William's behaviour... Line (5/22/2007 8:06 a.m.)
- Me too! Rose G (5/22/2007 8:15 a.m.)
  - In short, he remained the successful shopkeeper: Adrian (5/22/2007 1:16 p.m.)

Hilarious Mr. Collins moments Robbin (5/22/2007 2:31 a.m.)

My absolute no 1 favourite AnnieB (5/23/2007 5:06 a.m.)
- Sorry, wanted to add: AnnieB (5/23/2007 5:08 a.m.)
And when one considers JulieW (5/22/2007 9:46 a.m.)

"Mr. Darcy may hug himself.” I found it! Graciela (5/21/2007 11:04 p.m.)

You're welcome :) (NFM) Graciela (5/22/2007 11:35 p.m.)
You're great Graciela !!! Silvia O (5/22/2007 8:16 p.m.)
Congratulations - great find (nfm) Tracy W (5/22/2007 2:49 a.m.)
- Yes - thanks, Graciela! (nfm) Line (5/22/2007 8:07 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 27 Carolyn (5/21/2007 10:43 p.m.)

She doesn't think badly of Wickham Graciela (5/21/2007 11:35 p.m.)
- Wickham Emmy (5/23/2007 1:08 a.m.)
- I agree - IMO, only Darcy and Bingley... Line (5/22/2007 8:04 a.m.)
  - I should have stated it differently Carolyn (5/23/2007 12:28 a.m.)

Lady Catherine's Resume Carolyn (5/21/2007 10:20 p.m.)

LOL! great observation in her Ladyships skills/jobs :) nfm Felicia (5/23/2007 11:29 a.m.)
Mr. Collins's description of Lady C's forebearance re: fashion Cathy Allen (5/22/2007 3:34 p.m.)
- Mr. Collins' helpfulness Line (5/22/2007 6:41 p.m.)
Loved this;-D! (nfm) Moni (5/22/2007 2:13 a.m.)
Giggle Tracy W (5/21/2007 11:36 p.m.)
Wonderful post, I love it! ;D Robbin (5/21/2007 10:40 p.m.)
- LOL! A great summary of her versatile advice! : ) (nfm) Silvia O (5/23/2007 5:09 p.m.)

Why did the Bingley sisters like Jane at first? Laurel (5/21/2007 5:08 p.m.)

Ah, did they like Jane? Adrian (5/21/2007 6:01 p.m.)
- I agree Rose G (5/22/2007 8:24 a.m.)
- Might want to endear themselves Pam S (5/21/2007 8:38 p.m.)
  - Hi Pam S - are you new ? Farah-Naz (5/22/2007 2:03 a.m.)
Perhaps not such a schemer? Tracy W (5/21/2007 5:50 p.m.)
- Raised by gargoyles? I like it! Adrian (5/21/2007 6:05 p.m.)

ch.28: His two meadows? Line (5/21/2007 7:03 a.m.)

Comment in the Annotated version says... Emmy (5/22/2007 1:01 p.m.)
- Thanks, Emmy! (nfm) Line (5/22/2007 6:23 p.m.)
Cows? jeremy (5/21/2007 7:22 a.m.)
- He may also have a horse Tracy W (5/21/2007 4:44 p.m.)
  - Well, Mr Collins does JulieW (5/21/2007 4:49 p.m.)
    - Thanks, everybody! :-) (nfm) Line (5/21/2007 7:21 p.m.)
- Could be for cows Robbin (5/21/2007 7:32 a.m.)

Just some counting Michaela (5/21/2007 3:57 a.m.)

Now I will be counting as well ! William D (5/21/2007 4:54 p.m.)

Question about the Collinses at Hunsford Michaela (5/21/2007 3:47 a.m.)

No, I'm sure... Line (5/21/2007 6:50 a.m.)
- Lady C and the Collinses Rose G (5/22/2007 8:30 a.m.)
  - Lady C needs an audiance Outi (5/22/2007 8:43 a.m.)
    - sorry, audience Outi (5/22/2007 8:50 a.m.)
- I'm puzzled too Tracy W (5/21/2007 5:11 p.m.)
  - That's exactly what I was.. Line (5/21/2007 7:19 p.m.)
    - Oops, sorry Tracy W (5/22/2007 2:56 a.m.)

Sir William at Rosings: lol Michaela (5/21/2007 3:37 a.m.)

marriage as punishment Carolyn (5/20/2007 8:25 p.m.)

I think more hurt than amused Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:53 p.m.)
- I think both nan duval (5/20/2007 8:58 p.m.)

Chapter 26 -- Jane's Letter Carolyn (5/20/2007 8:00 p.m.)

I think... Nabilah S. (5/20/2007 8:35 p.m.)
- Au contraire, nan duval (5/20/2007 9:08 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 26 Carolyn (5/20/2007 7:20 p.m.)

Please Remember Carolyn (5/20/2007 7:06 p.m.)

Ch.26: 2nd potential suitor Line (5/20/2007 10:01 a.m.)

Toying with Wickham's affections? Kathi (5/20/2007 9:47 a.m.)

Good question - I think it's just that... Line (5/20/2007 10:09 a.m.)
- Without going back and carefully rereading... Arnie Perlstein (5/20/2007 10:56 a.m.)

Focus: Voices: Jane and Elizabeth Tracy W (5/20/2007 9:31 a.m.)

Question about the Gardiners children Michaela (5/20/2007 6:07 a.m.)

It's a little sad... Karon (5/20/2007 2:12 p.m.)
But, consider that JulieW (5/20/2007 7:50 a.m.)
- A link Rebecca K (5/24/2007 6:07 a.m.)
  - Hm, your link only takes me... Line (5/24/2007 7:56 a.m.)

Chapter 26-Changing relationships Linda (5/20/2007 1:28 a.m.)

Lol chapter 25 Carolyn (5/19/2007 10:56 p.m.)

Joke on Lizzy Robbin (5/20/2007 7:05 a.m.)
- I think what Elizabeth meant... Line (5/20/2007 9:23 a.m.)
  - Yes, you are right! lol nfm :D Robbin (5/20/2007 12:50 p.m.)
Lol chapter 27 Michaela (5/20/2007 5:51 a.m.)
- Darcy usually writes long letters Graciela (5/20/2007 11:36 p.m.)
  - Yes, one thing I love about him :-)) (nfm) Michaela (5/21/2007 3:33 a.m.)
- This *particular* father Line (5/20/2007 9:14 a.m.)
- Another one in ch 27 Michaela (5/20/2007 6:00 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 25 Carolyn (5/19/2007 10:38 p.m.)

Unreserved Wickham Robbin (5/20/2007 8:25 a.m.)
Does this just fit into... Moni (5/20/2007 4:52 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 24 Carolyn (5/19/2007 9:55 p.m.)

It's interesting... Moni (5/20/2007 4:32 a.m.)
- But part of being angelic... Line (5/20/2007 9:17 a.m.)

Chapter 22: *coming out* Silvia O (5/19/2007 6:24 p.m.)

Think it may have been a new word Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:53 a.m.)
- It makes a lot of sense... Silvia O (5/20/2007 10:49 a.m.)
Holding her sisters back… Robbin (5/19/2007 7:50 p.m.)
- It's an interesting point re the Charlotte Susan L (5/20/2007 8:38 a.m.)
  - Charlotte also probably had unspoken pressure,... Adrian (5/20/2007 1:21 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 23 Carolyn (5/18/2007 8:45 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 22 Carolyn (5/17/2007 10:33 p.m.)

It is sad really... Robbin (5/19/2007 9:19 p.m.)
- I suspect Lizzy's closeness to Charlotte would... Adrian (5/20/2007 1:30 p.m.)
  - Respect Robbin (5/20/2007 3:03 p.m.)
- Razor sharp observations... Moni (5/20/2007 4:05 a.m.)

Lizzy's feelings contradict her statements nan duval (5/17/2007 8:53 p.m.)

What irony? Tracy W (5/17/2007 11:49 p.m.)
- Exactly Kathi (5/18/2007 12:49 a.m.)

ch.24: Jane and her parents Line (5/17/2007 7:44 p.m.)

Perhaps... Rose G (5/18/2007 10:25 a.m.)
- Joking with Lizzy only Linda (5/18/2007 10:58 a.m.)
I agree, great catch... Robbin (5/18/2007 8:52 a.m.)

Neighbourhood gossip Line (5/17/2007 7:38 p.m.)

Grosvenor Streeet v. Gracechurch Street JulieW (5/17/2007 9:57 a.m.)

To think all this time... Moni (5/19/2007 11:06 a.m.)
House on Grosvenor Street Patricia M (5/18/2007 7:07 p.m.)
- So he can drink other people's? :- ) NFM Helen Halstead (5/18/2007 7:09 p.m.)
  - *snort* JulieW (5/18/2007 7:23 p.m.)
This really puts the environments in focus. Thanks so nan duval (5/17/2007 8:36 p.m.)
The next-best part of this P&P Group-Read for me. . . William D (5/17/2007 3:51 p.m.)
Wonderful, clear illustrations -- thanks, Julie! (nfm) Cathy Allen (5/17/2007 1:52 p.m.)
Does that mean Mr. Hurst was renting his house? Adrian (5/17/2007 12:46 p.m.)
- Yes, because the JulieW (5/17/2007 1:23 p.m.)
  - The Hursts' finances Line (5/17/2007 6:52 p.m.)
    - I wonder if people like the Hursts paid annually... Adrian (5/18/2007 12:14 p.m.)
      - Whoa!!! JulieW (5/18/2007 12:39 p.m.)
        
        Thanks for stopping my stampeed. (nfm) Adrian (5/18/2007 1:03 p.m.)
  - Wonderful and interesting! Thanks so much! nfm ;D Robbin (5/17/2007 1:36 p.m.)
Wow, great post! This should be archived ... Kris L (5/17/2007 12:20 p.m.)
Truly fascinating and illuminating. Thank you. Marilynn (5/17/2007 10:53 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 21 Carolyn (5/16/2007 10:40 p.m.)

"To yield readily to the *persuasion* of a friend... Lia (5/17/2007 3:06 p.m.)
Is Lizzy's blindness surprising? Adrian (5/17/2007 12:50 p.m.)
- Lizzy's discernment Lia (5/17/2007 3:13 p.m.)
- Excellent point---many of us think this way about friends. nfm William D (5/17/2007 1:38 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 20 Carolyn (5/16/2007 9:48 p.m.)

Does offering himself to Charlotte make Mr. C... Adrian (5/17/2007 12:54 p.m.)
- I think Mr Collins offered on the rebound Tracy W (5/17/2007 7:37 p.m.)
  - And to save face Kara M (5/18/2007 5:33 p.m.)

Quote from Ch. 24, IMO, very easily could be... Marilynn (5/16/2007 10:49 a.m.)

Yes, there might be something... Moni (5/17/2007 3:48 a.m.)

Lizzy causes uproar Robbin (5/16/2007 1:56 a.m.)

Were Mrs Bennet sensibler she might be happier Tracy W (5/16/2007 5:31 a.m.)
- I agree Line (5/16/2007 8:22 a.m.)
  - Mr Bennet's answer Linda (5/16/2007 12:06 p.m.)
    - Oh, yes! Rose G (5/18/2007 10:42 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 19 Carolyn (5/15/2007 10:45 p.m.)

What if... Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 10:02 p.m.)

Mary and Mr. Collins Graciela (5/15/2007 10:37 p.m.)
- They would be doomed from the start, I think… Robbin (5/16/2007 1:21 a.m.)
  - I was stating only what is said in the novel. Graciela (5/17/2007 6:36 p.m.)
    - Mary’s opinion of Mr. Collin’s engagement Robbin (5/18/2007 9:37 a.m.)
- This may be JA's way of telling us of the similarites Susan L (5/15/2007 11:53 p.m.)

Great description of Lydia Cathy Allen (5/15/2007 1:07 p.m.)

Indeed (nfm) : ) Marilynn (5/16/2007 10:58 a.m.)

coffee and muffin Carolyn (5/14/2007 9:52 p.m.)

Golly, English muffins! Louise H (5/15/2007 3:22 p.m.)
- Yes, they certainly do exist..... JulieW (5/15/2007 3:54 p.m.)
  - Mrs Phillips' Coffee Service... Moni (5/16/2007 7:31 a.m.)
    - Light supper. Mandy N (5/16/2007 9:57 a.m.)

Caroline Bingley's mean streak Line (5/14/2007 6:47 p.m.)

Incredible that she uses... Marilynn (5/16/2007 11:08 a.m.)

Ch.20: My dear Miss Lucas? Line (5/14/2007 6:34 p.m.)

Darcy smile #4 & #5 Carolyn (5/13/2007 10:42 p.m.)

Or it could be... Ann2 (5/15/2007 4:17 p.m.)
- Or could he... Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 9:45 p.m.)
Darcy like the Bingley Sisters? B. Michelle (5/14/2007 7:57 a.m.)
- Something I picked up in the... Moni (5/14/2007 12:42 p.m.)
  - That is an interesting theory... B. Michelle (5/14/2007 9:29 p.m.)
    - I think.. Rebecca K (5/18/2007 5:30 a.m.)
    - The notes come from a student... Moni (5/15/2007 9:25 a.m.)
- According to Wickham, he is! Line (5/14/2007 8:25 a.m.)
  - And for once I think Wickham was right! nfm Karen 2L (5/14/2007 3:52 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 18 Carolyn (5/13/2007 10:31 p.m.)

LOL Quote Ch 18 Emmy (5/17/2007 11:46 a.m.)
- Absentminded Lizzy Michaela (5/18/2007 5:33 a.m.)
Some quotes Graciela (5/14/2007 10:48 p.m.)
- Half an hour Robbin (5/15/2007 11:27 p.m.)
- Half an hour together Linda (5/15/2007 1:14 a.m.)
  - Double entendre Margaret S (5/15/2007 8:42 a.m.)
    - A different idea. Mandy N (5/15/2007 6:45 p.m.)
    - Interesting thoughts... Moni (5/15/2007 9:21 a.m.)
Dances of Mortification!... Moni (5/14/2007 3:49 a.m.)
- I do think that... Denise H (5/16/2007 7:14 p.m.)
  - I agree, that`s the feeling I have about it (nfm) Michaela (5/17/2007 6:45 a.m.)
- Random reference... Moni (5/15/2007 9:16 a.m.)
- I agree with Tracy Line (5/14/2007 6:02 p.m.)
- Perhaps a little exaggeration about Darcy's comment? Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:14 a.m.)
  - Well, he unknowingly suspended one Carolyn (5/14/2007 10:00 a.m.)
    - and Elizabeth gives Darcy complete credit (nfm) Eaffie (5/14/2007 11:00 a.m.)

A snapshot of Lady Catherine Line (5/13/2007 7:43 p.m.)

LOL Chapter 20 Lia (5/13/2007 8:59 p.m.)
- Love it! nfm Nabilah S. (5/14/2007 12:47 p.m.)

Focus: Voices: Mr Collins, with super-breath control powers Tracy W (5/13/2007 7:18 p.m.)

Some vocabulary questions Line (5/13/2007 7:09 p.m.)

Form Jill Sz (5/14/2007 3:04 p.m.)
- Thanks, Jill! (nfm) Line (5/14/2007 5:46 p.m.)
Curious about York too... Moni (5/14/2007 3:38 a.m.)
- In the Annotated Version Emmy (5/17/2007 1:18 a.m.)
  - The phrase struck me this reading too JulieW (5/17/2007 2:44 a.m.)
    - How old is the phrase "in Conventry" or "sent ... Adrian (5/17/2007 1:01 p.m.)
- York as an unimaginably far away place Kathi (5/14/2007 7:04 a.m.)
  - Thank you Kathi, Silvia O (5/17/2007 9:22 p.m.)
  - Thanks, Kathi ;-) (nfm) Moni (5/14/2007 11:48 a.m.)

Chapter 18 Felicia (5/13/2007 4:19 p.m.)

I agree - I think Mr. Bennet's favouritism... Line (5/13/2007 6:54 p.m.)
- Mrs Bennet does not understand her Linda (5/14/2007 3:16 a.m.)
In reaction to Mr Bennet's preference? Tracy W (5/13/2007 6:39 p.m.)

Mr. Collins is a bad listener… Robbin (5/13/2007 3:18 p.m.)

Advice for Mr Collins... Mandy N (5/13/2007 5:39 p.m.)

LOL Line: chapter 22 JulieW (5/13/2007 4:49 a.m.)

Anotherone a little further down in Ch 22 Michaela (5/13/2007 2:57 p.m.)
LOL line in Ch 23 Michaela (5/13/2007 2:48 p.m.)
- LOL line: chapter 25 Michaela (5/13/2007 3:04 p.m.)
  - Indeed.... Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 9:11 p.m.)

Charlotte after the proposal Cheryl (5/13/2007 1:19 a.m.)

I think Charlotte did the right thing. Cathy Allen (5/15/2007 2:57 p.m.)
- And it's not as if... Reeba (5/15/2007 5:15 p.m.)
JA's use of the word "scheme" Geri-Lynn (5/13/2007 8:36 p.m.)
- Charlotte is a manipulator with a heart Robbin (5/14/2007 12:49 a.m.)
  - I think I agree nan duval (5/16/2007 8:33 p.m.)
    - Didn't eliminate gainful employment Tracy W (5/19/2007 2:06 a.m.)
      - "Gainful employment" was not an attractive option. Helen Halstead (5/20/2007 6:52 p.m.)
      - Options   Robbin (5/19/2007 6:03 p.m.)
        
        Yep - that's what I'm doing   Tracy W (5/20/2007 7:37 a.m.)
        
        I absolutely do not equate Charlotte's marrying Mr. Collins   nan duval (5/19/2007 10:53 p.m.)
      - Charlotte and Mr Collins Susan L (5/19/2007 6:41 a.m.)
        
        Good points! nfm :D Robbin (5/19/2007 5:56 p.m.)
  - The meaning of the word "scheme"? Line (5/14/2007 8:17 a.m.)
    - According to Johnson's dictionary... Reeba (5/14/2007 8:54 a.m.)
      - If it means a contrivance...   Moni (5/14/2007 12:11 p.m.)
        
        I think Elizabeth also fears for Charlotte's happiness   Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:36 p.m.)
        
        I see Elizabeth's feelings here...   Reeba (5/14/2007 5:36 p.m.)
        
        I see it the other way round! :-)   Line (5/14/2007 6:23 p.m.)
        
        You're welcome, Line :-) nfm   Reeba (5/15/2007 4:30 a.m.)
        
        Surely Elizabeth is thinking about her own opinions?   Tracy W (5/14/2007 6:09 p.m.)
  - Perhaps Geri-Lynn is referring to the line in chpt 22 Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:04 a.m.)
    - Yes, you are right Geri-Lynn (5/15/2007 3:57 p.m.)
    - Is Charlotte trifling with Mr. Collins happiness? Robbin (5/14/2007 9:05 a.m.)
      - I agree; after all, nan duval (5/16/2007 8:47 p.m.)
      - That may be   Tracy W (5/14/2007 4:29 p.m.)
        
        Prudence, prudence   Robbin (5/15/2007 10:28 a.m.)
        
        Charlotte is prudent but not selfish   Susan L (5/16/2007 12:13 a.m.)
        
        "Mr. Bennet-like behavior"   Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 8:59 p.m.)
        
        Charlotte has self-esteem   Robbin (5/16/2007 1:46 a.m.)
        
        I see...   Maria Liourdi (5/16/2007 2:28 p.m.)
        
        Spinsterhood   Susan L (5/18/2007 12:02 a.m.)
        
        Spinsterhood not so bad?   Robbin (5/17/2007 8:01 p.m.)
        
        That doesn't mean marriage is better   Tracy W (5/18/2007 12:05 a.m.)
        
        Escape options   Robbin (5/19/2007 12:19 p.m.)
        
        Actually the selection of the boss...   Reeba (5/19/2007 2:28 p.m.)
        
        I agree also. Good point nfm   Susan L (5/19/2007 7:02 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Robbin (5/19/2007 3:06 p.m.)
        
        Mr Collins or spinsterhood   Susan L (5/18/2007 3:25 a.m.)
        
        No, it doesn't, but...   Kathi (5/18/2007 12:28 a.m.)
        
        To change the topic somewhat - Elizabeth's views   Tracy W (5/19/2007 2:57 a.m.)
        
        Is Charlotte right? & Lizzy’s views   Robbin (5/19/2007 5:05 p.m.)
        
        Judging Elizabeth by your standards?   Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:29 a.m.)
        
        If Mr. Bennett had not married Mrs Bennett   nan duval (5/20/2007 6:59 p.m.)
        
        Tragic indeed :)   Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:47 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy is safe from me…   Robbin (5/20/2007 6:12 p.m.)
        
        Ex post vs ex ante   Tracy W (5/21/2007 4:32 p.m.)
        
        Its time to stop   JulieW (5/21/2007 4:46 p.m.)
        
        I am!! ;-)   Reeba (5/20/2007 11:11 a.m.)
        
        Elizabeth's standards   Line (5/20/2007 11:00 a.m.)
        
        Think of their fathers.   Rachel G (5/19/2007 6:46 a.m.)
        
        I agree. This is a situation...   Reeba (5/19/2007 8:03 a.m.)
        
        In general...   Maria Liourdi (5/21/2007 7:15 p.m.)
        
        Prudence or foolhardiness?   Tracy W (5/15/2007 6:05 p.m.)
        
        Situation and temper (long)   Robbin (5/17/2007 3:06 a.m.)
        
        Excellent post, Robbin :-)   Reeba (5/18/2007 7:10 a.m.)
        
        I admire Charlotte for her approach.   Susan L (5/18/2007 3:31 a.m.)
        
        My email address   Tracy W (5/17/2007 7:31 p.m.)
        
        I am ok Tracy. I am sorry I misunderstood your intent. nfm :D   Robbin (5/17/2007 8:09 p.m.)
        
        Nevertheless, Robin, an excellent post   BarbaraB (5/17/2007 11:04 p.m.)
        
        in total agreement   Lisa Dalrymple (5/17/2007 8:18 a.m.)
        
        Dads   nan duval (5/16/2007 9:13 p.m.)
        
        An illiterate father   Line (5/16/2007 9:44 p.m.)
        
        Good point, but   nan duval (5/16/2007 10:25 p.m.)
        
        Assuming Charlotte lives (nfm)   Tracy W (5/17/2007 7:28 p.m.)
        
        Well, that would solve Charlotte's problem at least ;-)   Adrian (5/18/2007 1:00 p.m.)
        
        Not just what-ifs   Tracy W (5/20/2007 8:40 a.m.)
        
        The thing is...   BarbaraB (5/20/2007 3:06 p.m.)
        
        Excellent post, Barbara. Thank you. :-) nfm   Reeba (5/21/2007 5:11 p.m.)
        
        I think we will have to agree to disagree   Tracy W (5/20/2007 5:04 p.m.)
        
        :) nfm   BarbaraB (5/20/2007 5:16 p.m.)
    - Mr. Collins' benefits ... Reeba (5/14/2007 8:59 a.m.)
Charlotte at the Netherfield ball Robbin (5/13/2007 10:58 a.m.)
- I was struck by the same thought! Rose G (5/18/2007 10:49 a.m.)
- Perhaps she *is* laying the groundwork... Line (5/13/2007 6:46 p.m.)
  - Fair to Lizzy… Robbin (5/13/2007 7:21 p.m.)
    - And he is most suited... Moni (5/14/2007 12:26 p.m.)
      - The violence of his affections   Robbin (5/14/2007 1:42 p.m.)
        
        Once again I note...   William D (5/21/2007 1:28 p.m.)
        
        The entail...   Rose G (5/18/2007 10:53 a.m.)
        
        Exactly! LOL;-) (nfm)   Moni (5/15/2007 11:18 a.m.)

The Proposal Cheryl (5/13/2007 1:14 a.m.)

Mr. Collins' insults Denise H (5/15/2007 7:31 p.m.)
- I almost forgot that... Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 9:06 p.m.)
  - I agree. It shows he never thinks! nfm Susan L (5/15/2007 11:55 p.m.)
The footstool Graciela (5/14/2007 12:14 a.m.)
- Yes... BarbaraB (5/14/2007 7:14 p.m.)
- This was funny... Moni (5/14/2007 2:55 a.m.)
  - Footstool=wife? Graciela (5/14/2007 10:17 p.m.)
Things I've noticed about Mr. C's proposal this time around Line (5/13/2007 7:37 p.m.)
So accommodating... Robbin (5/13/2007 7:34 p.m.)
- Agree on the pride issue! (nfm) Moni (5/14/2007 2:56 a.m.)
I'm struck by how.... William D (5/13/2007 12:07 p.m.)
- Good point! (nfm) Line (5/13/2007 6:36 p.m.)
The custom of young ladies.... Mandy N (5/13/2007 8:33 a.m.)
- That's another good one. nfm Kathi (5/13/2007 8:55 a.m.)
My favorite bit(s) Kathi (5/13/2007 7:50 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 17 Carolyn (5/12/2007 10:21 p.m.)

Possibly a contrast Mandy N (5/13/2007 8:07 a.m.)
Probably nothing too extreme JulieW (5/13/2007 5:46 a.m.)

Why were the militia in Meryton? Jean B (5/12/2007 3:58 p.m.)

Militia in Meryton... Mandy N (5/13/2007 9:00 a.m.)
- In CH. 12 it says the following... Moni (5/13/2007 11:17 a.m.)
  - Flogging as Gossip Eaffie (5/13/2007 6:09 p.m.)
    - Georgian attitudes to punishment. Mandy N (5/13/2007 8:01 p.m.)
    - Floggings in the military Line (5/13/2007 6:33 p.m.)
  - Gossiping on the militia... Mandy N (5/13/2007 3:01 p.m.)
    - I've just read it again... Moni (5/14/2007 1:14 p.m.)

Quick military question Carolyn (5/12/2007 12:26 a.m.)

Militia officers. Mandy N (5/12/2007 5:40 p.m.)
A quick (ish) answer jeremy (5/12/2007 5:01 a.m.)
- It was my understanding... Karen 2L (5/12/2007 10:37 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 16 Carolyn (5/12/2007 12:17 a.m.)

But do we know that there is anything wrong... Line (5/12/2007 2:21 p.m.)
- One hint Kathi (5/13/2007 8:51 a.m.)
- Well, some of us do... ;-) But you are correct, Line. Jean B (5/12/2007 3:45 p.m.)
  - Red Flag? Carolyn (5/12/2007 9:34 p.m.)
    - Yes, I agree and it also... Moni (5/13/2007 10:40 a.m.)
      - Moni is this the quote you were thinking of… Robbin (5/13/2007 11:55 a.m.)
        
        Yes it is, and Wickham... Moni (5/14/2007 3:07 a.m.)
    - Maybe a very pale pink flag Kathi (5/13/2007 8:54 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 15 Carolyn (5/11/2007 11:55 p.m.)

Red is often associated with embarrassment in JA ... Kris L (5/12/2007 1:16 p.m.)
red and white jeremy (5/12/2007 5:14 a.m.)
- For Shakespeare buffs... Adrian (5/12/2007 2:58 p.m.)
  - Maybe, Mandy N (5/12/2007 5:05 p.m.)
- Interesting... Cheryl (5/12/2007 12:31 p.m.)
  - I must admit JulieW (5/12/2007 1:46 p.m.)
    - I'd like to come back to this later in the GR! :-) (nfm) Line (5/12/2007 2:19 p.m.)
Red and white Cheryl (5/12/2007 2:41 a.m.)
- Exactly... Moni (5/13/2007 10:55 a.m.)
- good point - I had not thought of it that way round before - NFM jeremy (5/12/2007 5:15 a.m.)

I just have to say (Ch. 16) Jen K (5/11/2007 9:17 p.m.)

Also, let's not forget that Pride is one of the seven sins Kris L (5/12/2007 1:20 p.m.)
Quizzical brow here… Robbin (5/12/2007 8:50 a.m.)
Um, how is Wickham supposed to know... Line (5/12/2007 8:31 a.m.)
- Furthermore Wickham is saying Darcy is this to the rich Tracy W (5/13/2007 6:18 p.m.)

The Netherfield Ball Felicia (5/11/2007 11:49 a.m.)

IIRC such events were often scheduled to take ... Adrian (5/11/2007 1:37 p.m.)

Another "sly" Gilpin allusion JulieW (5/11/2007 10:02 a.m.)

Mr Collins writing style. Mandy N (5/12/2007 4:37 p.m.)
Nicely noted, Julie! Arnie Perlstein (5/11/2007 12:33 p.m.)
- Here is a link JulieW (5/11/2007 1:23 p.m.)
  - I missed that one the 1st time through, thanks--great stuff! nfm Arnie Perlstein (5/11/2007 2:26 p.m.)

never been able to understand this.... Ra (5/11/2007 4:52 a.m.)

An explanation Graciela (5/11/2007 10:49 p.m.)
Pretty sure it means... Moni (5/11/2007 11:24 a.m.)
I take this to mean .... jeremy (5/11/2007 8:18 a.m.)

as soon as Nicholls has made white soup enough Carolyn (5/10/2007 10:07 p.m.)

How was it preserved? Graciela (5/14/2007 9:27 p.m.)
- In a cool room JulieW (5/15/2007 9:09 a.m.)
  - Thanks for the information Graciela (5/17/2007 9:39 p.m.)
Here's a modern-ish version JulieW (5/11/2007 2:58 a.m.)
- ~am not seeing the refreshment in this soup at all! :D (nfm) Natalie (5/11/2007 7:41 a.m.)
  - Well, not so much refreshment perhaps JulieW (5/11/2007 8:20 a.m.)
Penguin Classics Edition Natalie (5/11/2007 12:40 a.m.)
- Sieving and boiling. Mandy N (5/12/2007 1:47 p.m.)
  - I've made it JulieW (5/12/2007 2:26 p.m.)
Odd translation Graciela (5/10/2007 11:14 p.m.)

Focus on Objects and Movements in chapters 12 & 13 Margaret S (5/10/2007 9:00 p.m.)

Wickham’s charms and Darcy’s failures (Long) Robbin (5/10/2007 8:13 p.m.)

Contrast... Maria Liourdi (5/15/2007 4:30 p.m.)
Chatting up. Lia (5/12/2007 2:35 p.m.)
- Well Robbin (5/12/2007 6:13 p.m.)
Darcy and Wickham Graciela (5/11/2007 11:42 p.m.)
- Reputation makes a difference Robbin (5/12/2007 11:41 a.m.)
A good summary jeremy (5/11/2007 2:40 a.m.)
- Thanks… Robbin (5/11/2007 12:37 p.m.)

This week's LOL lines Line (5/10/2007 6:00 p.m.)

Perhaps I have Mr. Bennet's odd sense of humour.... Lia (5/10/2007 8:23 p.m.)
- The last one... Mona M (5/11/2007 4:19 p.m.)

Darcy paraphrases Shakespeare again Margaret S (5/10/2007 4:59 p.m.)

This seems to me an instance of the "hamartia" of ... Adrian (5/10/2007 6:19 p.m.)
- I agree - IMO his words are too general... Line (5/10/2007 6:22 p.m.)

Another fish question... Denise H (5/9/2007 8:11 p.m.)

Good Enough for Bingley Carolyn (5/10/2007 9:48 p.m.)
Fish in Georgian Dinners. JulieW (5/10/2007 5:41 a.m.)
- Was this a family meal or a meal attended by guests? Tracy W (5/10/2007 4:22 p.m.)
  - Yes, thanks! Denise H (5/10/2007 9:55 p.m.)
    - Surprized Rabbits etc JulieW (5/11/2007 5:41 a.m.)
      - Very informative---thanks nfm BarbaraB (5/13/2007 10:48 a.m.)
      - Was having food left over to throw away... Adrian (5/11/2007 2:13 p.m.)

Focus: Voices: Wickham Tracy W (5/9/2007 4:24 p.m.)

Wickham and Darcy Nabilah S. (5/10/2007 3:10 p.m.)
- Same education but the same intelligence? Tracy W (5/13/2007 5:37 p.m.)

Focus on Objects and Movements in Chapter 11 Margaret S (5/9/2007 1:27 p.m.)

Mrs. Hurst played with her bracelets and rings Cathy Allen (5/10/2007 1:01 p.m.)
- The Hursts. Mandy N (5/13/2007 2:20 a.m.)
JA wrote the following in Letter 25 to CEA dated 11/9/00 Arnie Perlstein (5/9/2007 5:40 p.m.)

Shoe Roses JulieW (5/9/2007 1:00 p.m.)

Shoe roses for dancing... Mandy N (5/14/2007 1:32 a.m.)
Would you buy shoe roses for each occasion? Jean B (5/10/2007 12:46 p.m.)
- See below, Jean! nfm. JulieW (5/11/2007 5:56 a.m.)
Apron on the "Wood" shoe purveyor? Linda (Ann) (5/9/2007 2:42 p.m.)
- To keep JulieW (5/9/2007 4:01 p.m.)
  - Most interesting information and pictures, thanks JulieW! Cathy Allen (5/10/2007 12:48 p.m.)
    - The only JulieW (5/11/2007 6:37 a.m.)
      - Makes sense -- thanks again! (nfm) Cathy Allen (5/11/2007 10:39 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 14 Carolyn (5/9/2007 12:45 p.m.)

Darcy smile #3 Carolyn (5/9/2007 12:18 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 13 Carolyn (5/9/2007 11:51 a.m.)

New olive branch? Becky K (5/9/2007 3:17 p.m.)
- A little learning... Lia (5/9/2007 4:18 p.m.)

Fish JulieW (5/9/2007 10:13 a.m.)

I am so excited by these pictures! Jill Sz (5/14/2007 2:27 p.m.)
- Great story! Thanks for sharing! nfm Felicia (5/14/2007 6:31 p.m.)
An evening of gaming. Mandy N (5/12/2007 12:29 p.m.)
Cool! Now what about lottery tickets? Was it a game? nfm Jen S (5/9/2007 12:48 p.m.)
- This is an explanation of the game of "Lottery" JulieW (5/9/2007 1:16 p.m.)
Thank you - I never understood about the fish (nfm) Michaela (5/9/2007 12:21 p.m.)
I really like those fish tokens... Robbin (5/9/2007 11:28 a.m.)
WOW!!! This is amazing! - NFM jeremy (5/9/2007 10:53 a.m.)
OUTSTANDING! Thx for sharing (nfm) Natalie (5/9/2007 10:29 a.m.)

Mr. Collins Motive: Coming to Longbourn (chapters 13, 14, 15) Robbin (5/9/2007 8:24 a.m.)

Where could Mr. C have heard of the Bennet... Adrian (5/9/2007 12:14 p.m.)
- I have this evil mental picture Jean B (5/10/2007 1:31 p.m.)
  - He gave forethought to flattery he could bestow in conversation, Jen S (5/11/2007 7:36 a.m.)
    - I've always had the impression nan duval (5/13/2007 10:54 p.m.)
      - Mr. Collins dupes himself Robbin (5/14/2007 12:24 a.m.)
        
        OK, you've got me on the chapter 15 line: nan duval (5/15/2007 7:48 p.m.)
- Rumors of Beauty (chapters 13 and 14) Robbin (5/10/2007 1:16 a.m.)
  - How long has Mr. Collins been in Hunsford? Line (5/10/2007 6:20 p.m.)
    - Only a short time in Hunsford? Jo Y (5/10/2007 11:45 p.m.)
      - Good points, Jo   Line (5/11/2007 8:18 a.m.)
        
        More evidence for short tenure   Jo Y (5/14/2007 9:06 a.m.)
        
        It's clear that Mr. Collins has only been at Hunsford....   Arnie Perlstein (5/11/2007 10:02 a.m.)
        
        Agreed   nan duval (5/13/2007 11:01 p.m.)
        
        How do you know...   Robbin (5/14/2007 8:13 a.m.)
        
        No, because   nan duval (5/14/2007 3:50 p.m.)
        
        Since Lady Catherine does not have to invite...   Adrian (5/14/2007 5:55 p.m.)
        
        Blathering to Lady Catherine   Robbin (5/15/2007 10:33 a.m.)
        
        Lady Catherine's condescension to Mr. Collins   nan duval (5/15/2007 7:17 p.m.)
        
        Agree nfm   BarbaraB (5/12/2007 9:29 p.m.)
- Wondered the same thing and... BarbaraB (5/9/2007 8:44 p.m.)
- Connections are often surprising Tracy W (5/9/2007 7:33 p.m.)
  - Thanks for the link to the table. Very interesting! nfm Felicia (5/9/2007 9:40 p.m.)
Mr Collins' social life Lia (5/9/2007 9:31 a.m.)
- Good points Lia! Robbin (5/10/2007 1:23 a.m.)
- Early and unexpected prosperity Tracy W (5/9/2007 7:46 p.m.)

Ch.16: Elizabeth changes her mind about Darcy Line (5/8/2007 10:04 p.m.)

Is Elizabeth's view changed or reinforced? Susan L (5/9/2007 2:34 a.m.)
- Qualitative difference Kathi (5/9/2007 5:50 a.m.)
  - Exactly - sorry if I wasn't clear! :-) Line (5/9/2007 8:26 a.m.)
- I agree with you Outi (5/9/2007 2:53 a.m.)
  - I do not think Lizzy is being unreasonable… Robbin (5/9/2007 7:24 a.m.)
    - I am afraid we are going to cross swords again! jeremy (5/9/2007 8:46 a.m.)
      - Just how many times ... Kathi (5/10/2007 9:18 a.m.)
      - Consider the timing Adrian (5/9/2007 12:32 p.m.)
      - If Darcy had acted like a gentleman… Robbin (5/9/2007 11:00 a.m.)
      - Ducking between crossed swords.... Lia (5/9/2007 10:13 a.m.)
      - Agreed – once he gets to know her treats her as a good friend NFM   Margaret S (5/9/2007 9:08 a.m.)
        
        Chapter 12?   Robbin (5/9/2007 11:17 a.m.)
        
        Determined to hate   Margaret S (5/9/2007 1:58 p.m.)
        
        Can't see how...   Mandy N (5/12/2007 11:09 p.m.)
        
        I agree…   Robbin (5/10/2007 2:32 a.m.)
        
        If Lizzy were so determined to hate...   Kathi (5/9/2007 9:10 p.m.)
        
        Darcy's behaviour   Line (5/9/2007 6:24 p.m.)
        
        Somewhere I got the impression that whereas...   Adrian (5/9/2007 6:22 p.m.)
        
        Scarcely spoken   Margaret S (5/9/2007 7:30 p.m.)
        
        Changing my view of Darcy starting in Ch 10   Michaela (5/9/2007 4:44 p.m.)
        
        Pretty enough, maybe, but not good enough   Kathi (5/10/2007 7:45 a.m.)
        
        Can you elaborate please?   jeremy (5/11/2007 8:56 a.m.)
        
        A different context   Kathi (5/11/2007 11:00 a.m.)
        
        Giving consequence   Graciela (5/14/2007 1:02 a.m.)
        
        Consequence   Robbin (5/14/2007 9:38 a.m.)
        
        Only slighted by Darcy....   Mandy N (5/14/2007 2:30 a.m.)
        
        What I said   Graciela (5/14/2007 10:10 p.m.)
        
        Thanks - we are not too far apart - NFM   jeremy (5/12/2007 4:19 a.m.)
Elizabeth recollections of what Darcy said Graciela (5/8/2007 11:41 p.m.)

Birds of a Feather: Kitty & Lydia—Silly Robbin (5/8/2007 10:03 p.m.)

Novel reading in Regency times Tracy W (5/8/2007 10:49 p.m.)
- Their minds are full of nothing but officers... Robbin (5/8/2007 10:59 p.m.)
silliest girls Cheryl Kay (5/8/2007 10:17 p.m.)
- Well Robbin (5/8/2007 10:56 p.m.)
  - and perhaps Natalie (5/9/2007 10:21 a.m.)

Question about Mr. Collins's attentions towards Elizabeth Tiffany Lynn (5/8/2007 6:02 p.m.)

I think the answer is explained in the next sentence Tracy W (5/8/2007 10:39 p.m.)
Elizabeth understands her mother's mind... Tracey (5/8/2007 8:56 p.m.)

Lizzy & Darcy: Misunderstandings (chapters 6 to 18) Robbin (5/8/2007 3:29 p.m.)

great summary of her misunderstandings Tiffany Lynn (5/8/2007 5:54 p.m.)
- Darcy’s blunders and Wickham’s influence Robbin (5/8/2007 10:21 p.m.)

Ch 11 - Mr. Darcy did not wish for cards Emmy (5/8/2007 11:45 a.m.)

No cards Adrian (5/8/2007 12:28 p.m.)

Darcy’s Motive: Changing feelings for Lizzy (Long) ;D Robbin (5/8/2007 11:42 a.m.)

Great Post BarbaraB (5/12/2007 7:15 a.m.)
Darcy's Misperceptions and Bias. Lia (5/9/2007 11:09 a.m.)
- I agree with Susan L, you have made terrific points! nfm ;D Robbin (5/10/2007 11:52 a.m.)
- Your comments may help to explain why Susan L (5/9/2007 9:05 p.m.)
  - Yes; and more succintly stated! (nfm) Lia (5/10/2007 11:16 a.m.)
Fascinating post, Robbin--two observations Adrian (5/8/2007 1:04 p.m.)
- Observing each other… Robbin (5/9/2007 6:40 a.m.)
- Yet we don't hear of Darcy dancing with Jane Tracy W (5/8/2007 6:00 p.m.)
  - Darcy's JulieW (5/9/2007 5:20 a.m.)
- Why the neighbours looked amazed Line (5/8/2007 5:49 p.m.)
  - Good point! nfm ;D Robbin (5/9/2007 6:17 a.m.)

Chapter 14 Miss de Bourgh Felicia (5/8/2007 11:00 a.m.)

Indifferent re health Susan L (5/16/2007 11:55 p.m.)
Do we know what is meant by "indifferent... Moni (5/13/2007 11:02 a.m.)
- another indifferent health line.... Felicia (5/15/2007 1:15 p.m.)
  - I noticed that too... Moni (5/17/2007 3:33 a.m.)
Can we answer that on so slight knowledge of Miss... Adrian (5/8/2007 1:08 p.m.)

CH. 11 - Caroline's reading interests... Moni (5/8/2007 10:36 a.m.)

What is the study of thorough bass? Carolyn (5/8/2007 12:14 a.m.)

Pronounced "base," as in "baseball" (nfm) Adrian (5/8/2007 1:24 p.m.)
- Which is the joke..... JulieW (5/8/2007 1:58 p.m.)
Music Cheryl (5/8/2007 12:51 a.m.)
- Thanks, Carolyn (5/9/2007 11:54 a.m.)
  - Lol (nfm) Tracy W (5/9/2007 4:12 p.m.)
- Thanks,Cheryl Michaela (5/8/2007 3:54 a.m.)
  - Would doing this Jean B (5/8/2007 12:16 p.m.)
    - This was a customary way to publish (or copy down)... Adrian (5/8/2007 1:48 p.m.)
    - Math vs. Music Cheryl (5/8/2007 12:46 p.m.)
      - That is what I thought Jean B (5/8/2007 1:22 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 12 Carolyn (5/8/2007 12:10 a.m.)

Jane's resolve Cheryl (5/8/2007 12:56 a.m.)
- This struck me for the first time on this read Jean B (5/8/2007 12:20 p.m.)
- Darcy missed that clue about Jane's.. Karen 2L (5/8/2007 7:46 a.m.)
  - I'm not sure Darcy would have known... Adrian (5/8/2007 1:52 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 11 Carolyn (5/7/2007 11:40 p.m.)

How can Darcy not recognize... Karen 2L (5/8/2007 7:51 a.m.)
- How can Elizabeth not recognize Outi (5/8/2007 8:39 a.m.)
  - Excuse me, but how is it obvious? Line (5/8/2007 9:54 p.m.)
    - Not that obvious, IMHO. Kathi (5/9/2007 12:36 a.m.)
      - I was thinking more   Outi (5/9/2007 1:33 a.m.)
        
        Verbal and nonverbal messages   Kathi (5/9/2007 6:04 a.m.)
        
        My use of word obvious   Outi (5/9/2007 6:20 a.m.)
        
        Self-confidence vs. vanity   Kathi (5/9/2007 9:24 p.m.)
        
        Time to stop please. nfm.   JulieW (5/10/2007 2:56 a.m.)
  - Having now viewed... William D (5/8/2007 2:40 p.m.)
    - I have only watched P&P2 and P&P3.. Nabilah S. (5/8/2007 3:38 p.m.)
      - But couldn't it just be...   Elizabeth Sycamore (5/8/2007 10:54 p.m.)
        
        No, I don't think so   Outi (5/9/2007 5:18 a.m.)
        
        I agree   Crystal (5/8/2007 11:07 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 10 Carolyn (5/7/2007 10:45 p.m.)

Quote Ch 10 Michaela (5/8/2007 4:32 a.m.)
It's interesting to see... Moni (5/8/2007 2:36 a.m.)

Why would Wickham be walking up and down for an hour? Line (5/7/2007 7:46 p.m.)

No 'shopping mall' Tracey (5/8/2007 9:14 p.m.)
No TV Tracy W (5/7/2007 11:20 p.m.)
I think it is Wickham and Denny together... Arnie Perlstein (5/7/2007 10:41 p.m.)
- Perhaps to show their figures while walking Becky K (5/8/2007 2:14 p.m.)
  - LOL! (nfm) Outi (5/9/2007 1:38 a.m.)
  - I agree judegray (5/8/2007 4:23 p.m.)
    - A very nice irony indeed in relation to... Arnie Perlstein (5/8/2007 5:00 p.m.)
      - lol.... :-D Maria Liourdi (5/8/2007 5:48 p.m.)

Sketching Mr. Bennet's character Line (5/7/2007 7:29 p.m.)

I find Mr. Bennet William D (5/8/2007 11:41 a.m.)
- Met or known??? Maria Liourdi (5/8/2007 5:39 p.m.)
Mr Bennet amusing himself Cheryl (5/7/2007 8:45 p.m.)
- I agree - I'd be furious too Line (5/8/2007 8:22 a.m.)

"because you are in each other's confidence" Maisy (5/7/2007 4:56 p.m.)

Darcy doesn't really believe it... Tracy W (5/7/2007 5:24 p.m.)
- I agree... Cleopatra (5/7/2007 5:39 p.m.)
compare you better from here judegray (5/7/2007 5:13 p.m.)

Darcy Smile #2 Carolyn (5/7/2007 2:03 p.m.)

I think Elizabeth... Line (5/7/2007 6:14 p.m.)

Focus on objects and movements in chapters 9 and 10 Margaret S (5/7/2007 11:33 a.m.)

Objects and Movement BarbaraB (5/7/2007 10:57 p.m.)

Want to dance with Darcy? JulieW (5/7/2007 10:09 a.m.)

Just banter, not an actual invitation, IMO Elle2 (5/8/2007 8:09 p.m.)
- Yes, if you read my message I said JulieW (5/9/2007 2:45 a.m.)
  - Yes, of course Elle2 (5/9/2007 8:55 p.m.)
- Not an invitation at all ? Kathi (5/8/2007 9:58 p.m.)
Isn't it funny... Line (5/7/2007 6:50 p.m.)
I love that idea! Cynthia Jane (5/7/2007 3:48 p.m.)
Just finished reading this part... Moni (5/7/2007 10:39 a.m.)
- I dont think JulieW (5/7/2007 1:14 p.m.)
  - Good reading, thanks Julie;-) (nfm) Moni (5/8/2007 2:38 a.m.)
  - LOL BarbaraB (5/7/2007 10:50 p.m.)
- Well, we know from Ch. 6 that Darcy supposes... Adrian (5/7/2007 12:43 p.m.)
  - Is Darcy trying to atone for his "tolerable" remark ? Dario (5/8/2007 3:02 a.m.)
  - Interesting questions;-) (nfm) Moni (5/8/2007 2:39 a.m.)

Fordyce's Sermons JulieW (5/7/2007 10:03 a.m.)

What an interesting stricture against verses Tracy W (5/7/2007 4:39 p.m.)
- As the frist edition JulieW (5/7/2007 4:45 p.m.)
  - I wonder why poetry was regarded as dangerous then Tracy W (5/7/2007 9:21 p.m.)
Thinking about Mary's... Moni (5/7/2007 10:59 a.m.)
Thanks, very interesting.... Felicia (5/7/2007 10:12 a.m.)

Focus: Voices: Elizabeth and Darcy at Netherfield Tracy W (5/7/2007 9:34 a.m.)

You are charmingly grouped JulieW (5/7/2007 9:29 a.m.)

A difficulty in grouping ;) Mandy N (5/12/2007 12:47 p.m.)
Was Lizzy saying that she herself was a cow? ;-P ( NFM) Graciela (5/11/2007 10:15 p.m.)
It's great indeed!!! Thank you!!! nfm Maria Liourdi (5/7/2007 7:53 p.m.)
Oh Dear! Mona M (5/7/2007 12:35 p.m.)
Fascinating reading... Moni (5/7/2007 11:18 a.m.)
- Though perhaps she was made aware of the principles,... Adrian (5/7/2007 12:54 p.m.)
  - LOL! (nfm) Moni (5/8/2007 12:26 p.m.)
Great joke Michaela (5/7/2007 10:57 a.m.)
favorite scene Charlotte R. (5/7/2007 10:55 a.m.)
- Totally agree;-) (nfm) Moni (5/7/2007 11:08 a.m.)

Focus: Voices: Miss Bingley at Netherfield Tracy W (5/7/2007 9:08 a.m.)

I'm not sure about this... Line (5/7/2007 6:53 p.m.)
- Does this explain Lizzy's unfasionable manners? Tracy W (5/7/2007 11:22 p.m.)
Very interesting observation, thanks! *nfm* Margaret S (5/7/2007 9:47 a.m.)

the lenght of a dance Lyss (5/7/2007 7:49 a.m.)

Yes Line (5/7/2007 8:16 a.m.)
- thank you Lyss (5/7/2007 8:40 a.m.)

Ch 11 question about the turn about the room Michaela (5/7/2007 6:30 a.m.)

Darcy's Kelli Jean (5/7/2007 11:36 a.m.)
Yes... Robbin (5/7/2007 6:59 a.m.)
- I agree - D. is used to C. ignoring E ;-) (nfm) Line (5/7/2007 8:06 a.m.)

Ch 10 LOL and more Michaela (5/7/2007 6:23 a.m.)

I agree jeremy (5/7/2007 8:53 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 9 Carolyn (5/6/2007 6:22 p.m.)

wild manner Maisy (5/7/2007 3:53 p.m.)
- Exaggerations again... Moni (5/8/2007 2:46 a.m.)
Well... I think Lizzy just means his general character. Helen Halstead (5/7/2007 12:37 a.m.)

Mary's pedantic air and conceited manner (Chap 6) Lia (5/6/2007 12:06 p.m.)

higher degree of excellence Michaela (5/6/2007 4:01 p.m.)
- Makes sense, thanks! Lia (5/6/2007 4:29 p.m.)
Excellence excusing manner Frances Anne (5/6/2007 3:15 p.m.)

Sundays Robbin (5/6/2007 9:41 a.m.)

Here's an old post of mine JulieW (5/6/2007 10:55 a.m.)
- I think that clears it up! Thanks so much JulieW! nfm ;D Robbin (5/7/2007 12:59 p.m.)

Pride vs. vanity Line (5/6/2007 9:26 a.m.)

Prejudice against Caroline, or good sense? Kathi (5/6/2007 3:04 a.m.)

Good sense... Robbin (5/7/2007 6:51 a.m.)
now that you say it... Fernanda (5/6/2007 11:07 p.m.)
- No evidence? Kathi (5/7/2007 12:58 a.m.)
  - Well..... jeremy (5/7/2007 2:18 a.m.)
    - Jane's "evidence" Kathi (5/7/2007 11:50 a.m.)
      - Lizzy's infatuation with W and his story Jen S (5/8/2007 7:51 p.m.)
      - In response to Kathi (Jane's "evidence")   Diane Frances (5/7/2007 1:00 p.m.)
        
        So long as all the evidence on Darcy's side...   Adrian (5/7/2007 1:11 p.m.)
        
        Darcy's evidence,   Diane Frances (5/7/2007 3:42 p.m.)

An awful object called Darcy Robbin (5/6/2007 1:40 a.m.)

Was it a sign of excellent taste... Moni (5/7/2007 11:32 a.m.)
- Not really bored aristocrat-type but just bored Darcy Robbin (5/8/2007 12:16 a.m.)
  - Agree, and it seems to... Moni (5/8/2007 10:02 a.m.)
Bingley uncomfortable as the topic of conversation? Lia (5/6/2007 12:31 p.m.)
- Good points... Robbin (5/6/2007 3:18 p.m.)
  - Yes, excellent observation, Lia! nfm Arnie Perlstein (5/6/2007 7:02 p.m.)
Aweful Margaret S (5/6/2007 9:09 a.m.)
- Sundays were different Tracy W (5/6/2007 6:01 p.m.)
- Good catch… Robbin (5/6/2007 10:41 a.m.)
  - Awful vs. Awe-ful Lia (5/6/2007 11:34 a.m.)
    - Yes, better to insult Darcy rather than Lizzy! ;D Robbin (5/6/2007 3:11 p.m.)
      - Word transitions   Lia (5/6/2007 3:53 p.m.)
        
        When used in reference to a deity (which Bingley may...   Adrian (5/6/2007 7:20 p.m.)
        
        I can certainly see Darcy as "formidable"! (nfm)   Lia (5/6/2007 7:33 p.m.)
- In full agreement with you (nfm) Donna H (5/6/2007 10:30 a.m.)

Dance length Emmy (5/6/2007 12:55 a.m.)

great question - I wondered about that as well (nfm) Stacey (5/7/2007 5:49 p.m.)

Questions about needlework Robbin (5/6/2007 12:53 a.m.)

Yes, the word "work" JulieW (5/6/2007 11:29 a.m.)
- Gorgeous! Question at L&T.... (nfm) Rachel G (5/7/2007 4:04 a.m.)
- Might the Bennet girls also have embroidered... Adrian (5/6/2007 7:28 p.m.)
- Just what I wanted to know... Robbin (5/6/2007 1:51 p.m.)

Ch 3 - Jane, Bingley, Darcy and the dance. Emmy (5/6/2007 12:51 a.m.)

I love Bingley's comment... Moni (5/6/2007 11:26 a.m.)
- one of my favourites Fernanda (5/6/2007 11:12 p.m.)
Remember that each dance... Line (5/6/2007 9:02 a.m.)

Ch 3 Darcy's @ Meryton Assembly - could he have known EB heard? Emmy (5/6/2007 12:39 a.m.)

"Just behind you..." Lia (5/6/2007 8:28 p.m.)
Just as I've always felt Donna H (5/6/2007 8:01 a.m.)

Darcy in Danger Cheryl (5/5/2007 11:54 p.m.)

These danger lines..... Felicia (5/6/2007 4:30 p.m.)
I love how you put those lines together.. Nabilah S. (5/6/2007 9:18 a.m.)
I always have to chuckle at these lines. Line (5/6/2007 8:50 a.m.)
- Do you mean.... Maria Liourdi (5/7/2007 5:58 p.m.)
  - Yes, I think so Line (5/7/2007 6:26 p.m.)
    - You have a point... Maria Liourdi (5/7/2007 7:21 p.m.)
      - Yes, I suppose... Line (5/8/2007 9:30 p.m.)
        
        To sum up.... Maria Liourdi (5/9/2007 3:11 p.m.)
      - All so serious. Mandy N (5/8/2007 3:40 p.m.)
- i love how he is... Fernanda (5/6/2007 9:47 p.m.)

The Helpful Miss Bingley Cheryl (5/5/2007 11:52 p.m.)

Mr. Darcy may hug himself. Robbin (5/6/2007 12:49 a.m.)
- What does this mean? Line (5/6/2007 8:47 a.m.)
  - High praise... Robbin (5/6/2007 9:08 a.m.)
    - That is delicious. nfm Nancy Louise (5/6/2007 10:09 a.m.)

That manners Margaret S (5/5/2007 11:49 p.m.)

Why is Elizabeth impatient? Donna H (5/5/2007 11:33 p.m.)

Impatient with Mrs. Bennet? Maisy (5/6/2007 9:54 a.m.)
- Another good point! (nfm) Line (5/7/2007 8:23 a.m.)
Nicely done, Donna! Arnie Perlstein (5/6/2007 7:22 a.m.)
- Other suitors and poetry Line (5/6/2007 8:44 a.m.)
  - Lizzy could (in a light-hearted way) be vouching ... Adrian (5/6/2007 7:46 p.m.)
  - Very good points (nfm) Donna H (5/6/2007 10:14 a.m.)
Another possible interpretation Donna H (5/6/2007 12:18 a.m.)
- Hmm... that could be true nfm Nabilah S. (5/6/2007 9:23 a.m.)
  - I put the idea out but Donna H (5/6/2007 10:15 a.m.)

Four & Twenty Families (Chap 1-9) Carolyn (5/5/2007 11:25 p.m.)

Meryon neighbors.. Mandy N (5/6/2007 8:42 a.m.)
Neat! Robbin (5/6/2007 12:23 a.m.)
- Love the Shorts, too! ;-) Line (5/6/2007 8:35 a.m.)

I fancy she was wanted about the mince-pies Carolyn (5/5/2007 10:57 p.m.)

Darcy smile #1 Carolyn (5/5/2007 10:39 p.m.)

Thanks Carolyn Michaela (5/6/2007 3:48 p.m.)

Women undervaluing their own Donna H (5/5/2007 10:21 p.m.)

I think she was simply pointing out nan duval (5/5/2007 11:35 p.m.)
- Yes, I agree that Lizzy Donna H (5/5/2007 11:57 p.m.)
  - "CB" can equal Charles as well as Caroline Bingley Adrian (5/6/2007 7:50 p.m.)
  - I think you are right about the Superior Sisters... Robbin (5/6/2007 12:19 a.m.)
    - Caroline 'recommends' herself. Mandy N (5/6/2007 9:14 a.m.)
I loved it when CB made that statement loriclp (5/5/2007 10:36 p.m.)
- I most definitely agree! (nfm) Donna H (5/5/2007 11:10 p.m.)

Have you ever answered a rhetorical question? Margaret S (5/5/2007 1:27 p.m.)

Another reference? Graciela (5/8/2007 11:12 p.m.)
- Thanks, Graciela! Line (5/9/2007 8:10 a.m.)
  - Link Graciela (5/9/2007 10:42 p.m.)
- A link Graciela (5/8/2007 11:17 p.m.)
I'm confused! Maria Liourdi (5/5/2007 11:33 p.m.)
- I have no doubt JA knew the lines from Shakespeare. Adrian (5/6/2007 7:57 p.m.)
  - I think we agree... Maria Liourdi (5/7/2007 5:39 p.m.)
    - The Shakespeare Onion Margaret S (5/7/2007 9:47 p.m.)
      - Your view was clear... Maria Liourdi (5/8/2007 5:24 p.m.)
      - Elizabeth's reply may be evidence that JA...   Adrian (5/7/2007 11:11 p.m.)
        
        Yes, I think it's more general   Line (5/8/2007 8:19 a.m.)
        
        I connected the incident...   Moni (5/8/2007 9:43 a.m.)
        
        I thought of verses to Jane, too.   Mandy N (5/8/2007 5:54 p.m.)
I don't see why you think... Karen 2L (5/5/2007 1:50 p.m.)
- Agreed. nan duval (5/5/2007 5:37 p.m.)
- Yes, IMO she is telling Darcy... Line (5/5/2007 5:31 p.m.)

Ch 8: What exactly "caught" Lizzy? Laurel (5/5/2007 9:04 a.m.)

This may be rather simplistic but Donna H (5/5/2007 6:16 p.m.)
- Lizzy delights in anything ridiculous… Robbin (5/5/2007 7:25 p.m.)
  - Good points, thank you Donna H (5/5/2007 8:20 p.m.)
    - Agreed, ridiculous or not, D is more interesting than C *nfm* Margaret S (5/5/2007 11:29 p.m.)
- My impression is different. Mandy N (5/5/2007 6:39 p.m.)
  - I meant Donna H (5/5/2007 6:58 p.m.)
    - Budding interest, subconscious or otherwise Kathi (5/6/2007 4:33 a.m.)
      - Agree - Darcy is intriguing cipher Pili (5/8/2007 10:41 p.m.)
It does not seem out of character to me.... Eaffie (5/5/2007 12:43 p.m.)
- I think I would put it this way:... Maria Liourdi (5/5/2007 7:13 p.m.)
  - Thank you both Maisy and Laurel! Though... Maria Liourdi (5/5/2007 7:57 p.m.)
  - Elizabeth prefers reading to cards Maisy (5/5/2007 7:41 p.m.)
    - Does Elizabeth really prefer reading to cards? Line (5/6/2007 8:17 a.m.)
  - I like this explanation :-) Laurel (5/5/2007 7:25 p.m.)
Beautiful Balance Robbin (5/5/2007 11:14 a.m.)
- Another set of parallels Adrian (5/5/2007 4:15 p.m.)
  - I like both of those parallels… Robbin (5/5/2007 6:49 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 8 Carolyn (5/4/2007 11:30 p.m.)

Yes we begin to like him more and more (NFM) Jean B (5/5/2007 3:24 p.m.)

Compliment? Denise H (5/4/2007 7:32 p.m.)

I think Darcy is making Donna H (5/5/2007 9:32 p.m.)
- Why tell a falsehood about not being a great reader? Robbin (5/5/2007 10:56 p.m.)
  - I think I've figured out why Donna H (5/6/2007 10:28 a.m.)
    - Of course you can… Robbin (5/6/2007 1:34 p.m.)
      - Biased sample set? Tracy W (5/6/2007 5:50 p.m.)
        
        Censure and praise Robbin (5/6/2007 9:16 p.m.)
      - Is it possible that Lizzy IS Donna H (5/6/2007 4:30 p.m.)
        
        Hashing though ours thoughts is great fun IMHO… Robbin (5/6/2007 9:24 p.m.)
  - I think when CB claimed, Donna H (5/5/2007 11:16 p.m.)
Good point! Lia (5/4/2007 7:52 p.m.)
- A remark to Caroline. Mandy N (5/5/2007 4:28 a.m.)
I do not see Lizzy as being insulted by the comment,... Adrian (5/4/2007 7:39 p.m.)
- I think Darcy... Arnie Perlstein (5/5/2007 1:34 p.m.)
  - It seemed that Darcy... Denise H (5/5/2007 8:03 p.m.)

Darcy and Bingley Cheryl (5/4/2007 3:14 p.m.)

I wondered Jean B (5/4/2007 5:12 p.m.)
It is never clear, IMO, what the age difference is... Marilynn (5/4/2007 3:15 p.m.)
- What was considered "of age" in Regency England? Lia (5/4/2007 7:20 p.m.)
  - Twenty-one Marilynn (5/4/2007 7:49 p.m.)
    - Then unlikely they met at school/university. Lia (5/4/2007 7:55 p.m.)
      - Not necessarily... Marilynn (5/4/2007 8:39 p.m.)
- Note to Marilynn Cheryl (5/4/2007 3:18 p.m.)
  - Not to worry Marilynn (5/4/2007 4:07 p.m.)

Mrs Bennet and Charlotte Cheryl (5/4/2007 1:15 p.m.)

It's not just Charlotte Adrian (5/4/2007 1:33 p.m.)
- Poor Mrs. Long Carolyn (5/4/2007 11:00 p.m.)
- selfish, hypocritical woman Becky K (5/4/2007 2:18 p.m.)
  - Mrs Bennet's remarks.. Mandy N (5/4/2007 2:56 p.m.)
    - Mrs. Bennet does what Caroline Bingley does Maisy (5/5/2007 7:12 p.m.)
    - I agree - just getting ahead of the competition! ;-) (nfm) Line (5/4/2007 6:42 p.m.)

"Lizzy" versus "Lizzie" in Chapter 7 Cathy Allen (5/4/2007 11:14 a.m.)

Lizzy Cheryl (5/4/2007 11:26 a.m.)
- Thank you very much Cheryl -- very reliable reference! (nfm) Cathy Allen (5/4/2007 6:46 p.m.)
- Speaking of spelling.. Nabilah S. (5/4/2007 11:47 a.m.)

Ch. 7 Jane's violent cold... Moni (5/4/2007 6:02 a.m.)

Quite irrelevant,,,,, Maria Liourdi (5/4/2007 9:33 a.m.)
Apothecaries etc ( Long and not really for the squeamish....) JulieW (5/4/2007 8:59 a.m.)
- Julie, this was so interesting and... Moni (5/5/2007 11:37 a.m.)
- Formidably enlightening, but not nearly nan duval (5/4/2007 7:53 p.m.)
  - Yes ,they would JulieW (5/5/2007 2:22 a.m.)
    - Noted, Sorry to digress. Intended a joke.nfm nan duval (5/5/2007 7:36 a.m.)
- Great post, as always! Thanks! nfm ;D Robbin (5/4/2007 9:41 a.m.)
- Fantastic! jeremy (5/4/2007 9:13 a.m.)
  - My pleasure.... JulieW (5/4/2007 9:23 a.m.)
    - My goodness! (nfm) Moni (5/8/2007 10:11 a.m.)
    - Fascinating, Julie... Gloria (5/4/2007 9:41 p.m.)
    - Draughts for poor Jane. Mandy N (5/4/2007 4:41 p.m.)
Apothecary vs physician jeremy (5/4/2007 7:06 a.m.)
- In fact the SS's wanted to call a physician for Jane Adrian (5/4/2007 1:50 p.m.)
  - A request... Cheryl (5/4/2007 2:15 p.m.)
    - Certainly, so glad you said something. :D nfm Robbin (5/4/2007 2:40 p.m.)

Ch.7: LOL line Line (5/3/2007 10:47 p.m.)

You might like to see JulieW (5/4/2007 9:21 a.m.)
- Love seeing these;-) (nfm) Moni (5/5/2007 1:33 p.m.)
- All these clues to life back then Ann2 (5/5/2007 12:32 p.m.)
  - Thanks, Ann - just what I wanted to know! :-) (nfm) Line (5/5/2007 5:27 p.m.)
- Don't DO this, Julie! Line (5/4/2007 6:31 p.m.)
  - Theri business was in London,Line ;-) nfm. JulieW (5/5/2007 2:24 a.m.)
Agree, this is fun... Moni (5/4/2007 5:51 a.m.)
My favorite LOL for Ch 7 Carolyn (5/3/2007 11:18 p.m.)
It gave me a laugh, too! (nfm) Donna H (5/3/2007 10:50 p.m.)

Quote Chapter 7 Carolyn (5/3/2007 10:27 p.m.)

Just wanted... BarbaraB (5/6/2007 2:04 a.m.)
Lizzie is definitely a model to me Silvia O (5/5/2007 9:09 p.m.)
- Cool! BarbaraB (5/5/2007 10:44 p.m.)
Definitely... Gloria (5/4/2007 9:52 p.m.)
On my T-shirt... Donna H (5/3/2007 10:43 p.m.)

Focus on objects and movements in chapters 7 and 8 Margaret S (5/3/2007 10:12 p.m.)

Interesting things... Moni (5/4/2007 5:54 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 6 Carolyn (5/3/2007 9:29 p.m.)

Whatever bears affinity to cunning... Lia (5/4/2007 6:30 p.m.)
- Thanks Lia Maisy (5/5/2007 6:33 p.m.)
IMHO,.... Maria Liourdi (5/4/2007 9:13 a.m.)
Dry wit defined... Donna H (5/3/2007 10:14 p.m.)
- More on dry wit Donna H (5/3/2007 10:34 p.m.)
Both? Margaret S (5/3/2007 9:58 p.m.)
I think Darcy... Donna H (5/3/2007 9:53 p.m.)

Ch.8: Dressing for dinner Line (5/3/2007 6:56 p.m.)

Other activities during this time? Louise H (5/5/2007 6:06 p.m.)
- I can offer no definitive proof but Donna H (5/5/2007 10:10 p.m.)
Indolence or design? Marilynn (5/4/2007 4:30 p.m.)
- Yes, insincerety Ann2 (5/5/2007 12:54 p.m.)
different values Outi (5/4/2007 5:23 a.m.)
- You're quite right about historical context - I just couldn't... Line (5/4/2007 8:21 a.m.)
  - I envy them Outi (5/7/2007 1:30 a.m.)
    - Don't worry - I enjoyed your post! Line (5/7/2007 8:21 a.m.)
      - I would be trying hard Outi (5/8/2007 4:11 a.m.)

Ch. 8: "... in such days as these." abdullyne (5/3/2007 5:20 p.m.)

I took it to mean nan duval (5/3/2007 6:11 p.m.)
- Thanks, that never occurred to me before! (nfm) Lia (5/4/2007 6:33 p.m.)
- I see abdullyne (5/3/2007 8:45 p.m.)
- I agree (nfm) Donna H (5/3/2007 7:34 p.m.)

Braving the elements Robbin (5/3/2007 5:02 p.m.)

Only Bingley understands Carolyn (5/3/2007 9:54 p.m.)

Elizabeth's being taken by surprise Laraine (5/3/2007 2:03 p.m.)

I confess Lia (5/4/2007 7:01 p.m.)
- A sign of Lizzy’s self-esteem and affection for Jane Robbin (5/5/2007 4:17 a.m.)
IMHO... Donna H (5/3/2007 9:08 p.m.)
- That's the way I've always read it Ramya (5/3/2007 10:33 p.m.)
  - I agree, she does seem Donna H (5/3/2007 10:36 p.m.)
more delicious irony nan duval (5/3/2007 6:21 p.m.)
- Her prejudice makes her blind to his admiration. nf Stephanie J. (5/4/2007 3:46 p.m.)
  - Prejudice, or realism combined with modesty? Line (5/4/2007 7:03 p.m.)
Compliments Michaela (5/3/2007 3:19 p.m.)
- Me too... Maria Liourdi (5/3/2007 7:28 p.m.)
- This is the way I have read it as well. NFM Jen S (5/3/2007 5:34 p.m.)
  - Same here! :-) (nfm) Line (5/3/2007 6:39 p.m.)
- Interesting Laraine (5/3/2007 4:15 p.m.)
- Oh, indeed Marilynn (5/3/2007 4:00 p.m.)

Kitty and Lydia Robbin (5/3/2007 1:31 p.m.)

What do you think... Elizabeth Sycamore (5/4/2007 2:20 a.m.)
- Great question… Robbin (5/4/2007 2:54 p.m.)
- You are assuming that they haven't. nan duval (5/4/2007 8:06 a.m.)
  - Good point (nfm) Donna H (5/4/2007 8:30 a.m.)
- What a good question! Donna H (5/4/2007 7:12 a.m.)
Very good points!!! Maria Liourdi (5/3/2007 7:20 p.m.)
- I believe there is a reference to that Donna H (5/3/2007 9:24 p.m.)
  - I'm glad we agree... :-) Maria Liourdi (5/4/2007 8:27 a.m.)
I wonder... Marilynn (5/3/2007 2:22 p.m.)

Oh, dear, Mr Bennett Rose G (5/3/2007 8:41 a.m.)

I like to think that... Donna H (5/3/2007 9:33 p.m.)
- Light-hearted or exasperated? Tracy W (5/3/2007 11:08 p.m.)
  - That's the word: cynical (nfm) Maria Liourdi (5/4/2007 7:58 a.m.)
- "Only kidding" Kathi (5/3/2007 9:58 p.m.)
  - Yes, yes... Donna H (5/3/2007 10:19 p.m.)
I believe your view of Mr. Bennet is too severe. Marilynn (5/3/2007 2:51 p.m.)
- Recognizing that his daughters are silly... Kathi (5/3/2007 8:13 p.m.)
  - Yes, he can be insensitive... Mandy N (5/4/2007 5:04 p.m.)
very confusing... Anna Larie (5/3/2007 12:14 p.m.)
- " Mr. Bennet is being rather cold... Maria Liourdi (5/3/2007 6:54 p.m.)
A disappointing realization indeed Amy Elizabeth (5/3/2007 11:34 a.m.)
- Minds more vacant...and...their marriage money Gloria (5/3/2007 7:17 p.m.)
  - Probably not. due to reference to silly and ignorant Tracy W (5/3/2007 8:13 p.m.)
    - Yes, previously, Gloria (5/4/2007 9:16 p.m.)
    - "like other girls"??? Maria Liourdi (5/4/2007 8:16 a.m.)
      - Sarcasm and cynicism Tracy W (5/6/2007 5:18 p.m.)
      - Good point! At the moment it seems... Line (5/4/2007 8:19 a.m.)
- Difficult to tell difference between jokes and truth Tracy W (5/3/2007 5:29 p.m.)
- To play devil's advocate Jean B (5/3/2007 12:12 p.m.)
  - I disagree Amy Elizabeth (5/3/2007 4:08 p.m.)

JA's ability to tell so much in a short space Rebecca K (5/3/2007 12:45 a.m.)

Yes Asli (5/4/2007 8:23 a.m.)
P&P "fairly gallops" across the page! Cathy Allen (5/3/2007 12:35 p.m.)
- Galloping Rebecca K (5/3/2007 9:06 p.m.)
I completely agree jeremy (5/3/2007 1:38 a.m.)

Ch.7: Whose footman? Line (5/2/2007 11:28 p.m.)

I read it as... Marilynn (5/3/2007 3:54 p.m.)
My impression... Moni (5/3/2007 11:17 a.m.)
I took it to mean the latter Leisa (5/3/2007 6:24 a.m.)

Mary: Pride vs. Vanity BarbaraB (5/2/2007 10:43 p.m.)

From the mouths of babes (or Marys)? Lia (5/4/2007 8:07 p.m.)
- Mary's problem is not that she is often wrong in her... Adrian (5/5/2007 4:32 p.m.)
  - I agree nfm BarbaraB (5/6/2007 2:12 a.m.)
As Julie W illustrated, further down on this board, Cathy Allen (5/3/2007 12:27 p.m.)
Well Mary does call it a common failing Tracy W (5/2/2007 11:06 p.m.)
- I must beg to differ - just a little! Rose G (5/3/2007 8:34 a.m.)
As comic relief! Line (5/2/2007 11:03 p.m.)
- Illustration of Extremes? Jenna R. (5/3/2007 9:15 a.m.)

“The common extent of accomplishments" JulieW (5/2/2007 9:38 a.m.)

Lovely to see these examples... Moni (5/3/2007 11:24 a.m.)
Ridicules nan duval (5/2/2007 3:12 p.m.)
Thank you Tiffany Lynn (5/2/2007 11:20 a.m.)
- Remember this was before much modern technology Tracy W (5/3/2007 5:45 p.m.)
- If I may... Marilynn (5/2/2007 1:48 p.m.)
  - Accomplishments... Mandy N (5/3/2007 1:14 p.m.)
  - Well said... Moni (5/3/2007 11:27 a.m.)

Ragoos R Us...or, are they? JulieW (5/2/2007 8:41 a.m.)

Ah an FUP maybe, Julie Jean B (5/3/2007 12:01 p.m.)
Fascinating points!... Moni (5/3/2007 11:32 a.m.)
Now, what was a plain dish? Line (5/2/2007 10:25 p.m.)
Fashionable Mr Hurst... Mandy N (5/2/2007 2:20 p.m.)
- Do you want to see some authentic French JulieW (5/2/2007 2:26 p.m.)
  - Sounds lovely ! ... shall look forward :-) (nfm) Mandy N (5/2/2007 3:21 p.m.)
Ragouts and Mr. Hurst Robbin (5/2/2007 9:34 a.m.)
- I agree nan duval (5/2/2007 3:20 p.m.)

Kitty’s cough Margaret S (5/2/2007 8:19 a.m.)

Kitty coughs in one chapter! Karen 2L (5/3/2007 10:58 a.m.)
- LOL...nfm Gloria (5/3/2007 7:32 p.m.)
I have always supposed... Lia (5/2/2007 6:19 p.m.)
- And I always thought... Kathi (5/2/2007 8:39 p.m.)
- "cough as a literary device"!!! Maria Liourdi (5/2/2007 7:33 p.m.)
At first I thought so, too Donna H (5/2/2007 2:41 p.m.)
In a different context.... Arnie Perlstein (5/2/2007 11:37 a.m.)
- I initially... Marilynn (5/2/2007 12:06 p.m.)
  - Great minds, etc.... nfm Arnie Perlstein (5/2/2007 12:43 p.m.)
Perhaps... Marilynn (5/2/2007 11:28 a.m.)
- My thought exactly. nfm Ana L (5/2/2007 11:34 a.m.)
I doubt it. Andrea Gayle (5/2/2007 10:15 a.m.)
- Also what would be the purpose of Kitty having TB? Tracy W (5/3/2007 1:41 a.m.)
- TB? Nonsense! Spencer (5/2/2007 5:52 p.m.)
  - Nervous cough? Jean B (5/3/2007 12:30 p.m.)
    - I think Mr Bennet would joke about that Tracy W (5/3/2007 5:21 p.m.)
      - Yes, but... Lia (5/4/2007 7:09 p.m.)
  - I agree Line (5/2/2007 10:39 p.m.)
  - I thought.... Nabilah S. (5/2/2007 8:59 p.m.)

Lizzy & Charlotte in Chapter 6 Robbin (5/1/2007 11:56 p.m.)

My take on this conversation Margaret S (5/2/2007 8:13 a.m.)
- That conversation Line (5/2/2007 10:50 p.m.)
  - Thank you for your good opinion not lightly conferred.. ;) nfm Arnie Perlstein (5/2/2007 11:04 p.m.)
- Talking by rule (LONG) Adrian (5/2/2007 12:53 p.m.)
  - I have long felt that Darcy is too quickly Susan L (5/3/2007 2:54 a.m.)
    - Darcy's well-earned negative reputation Kathi (5/3/2007 3:08 a.m.)
      - Very easy ma'am ....   Susan L (5/3/2007 8:33 a.m.)
        
        Well, the noose is still empty…   Robbin (5/3/2007 11:05 a.m.)
        
        We have some information ...   Kathi (5/3/2007 10:22 a.m.)
- Not meant to be condescending Marilynn (5/2/2007 11:26 a.m.)
- Energetic subjects, condescending attitude, pointy sticks Robbin (5/2/2007 11:04 a.m.)
  - I think Margaret is correct.. Arnie Perlstein (5/2/2007 12:39 p.m.)
    - Pattern and prize Robbin (5/2/2007 3:45 p.m.)
      - There is also a sense of Lizzy feeling about Darcy's offer... Adrian (5/2/2007 5:58 p.m.)
        
        A simpler interpretation Kathi (5/3/2007 2:59 a.m.)
    - "Keep your breath... " abdullyne (5/2/2007 2:08 p.m.)
      - Funny... Robbin (5/2/2007 3:09 p.m.)
        
        Or great porridge for thought.... ;) Arnie Perlstein (5/2/2007 4:14 p.m.)

Courses that were to her credit Carolyn (5/1/2007 11:49 p.m.)

Amulet JulieW (5/2/2007 5:47 a.m.)
- Amulet recipes... Mandy N (5/2/2007 3:24 p.m.)
- Death by butter and cream! Debra R (5/2/2007 10:34 a.m.)
  - Oh, I don't know... Maisy (5/2/2007 10:49 a.m.)
  - Hence the advantage of being a great walker :o) NFM Jen S (5/2/2007 10:43 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 5 Carolyn (5/1/2007 11:02 p.m.)

Very appropriate indeed Tracy W (5/1/2007 11:40 p.m.)
- "the source of Elizabeth's prejudice against Darcy"? Maria Liourdi (5/2/2007 10:45 a.m.)
  - Elizabeth's prejudice. Mandy N (5/2/2007 12:06 p.m.)
    - I disagree Adrian (5/2/2007 1:15 p.m.)
      - Elizabeth tolerates her mother, but does she respect her? Tracy W (5/2/2007 5:42 p.m.)
      - 'No very cordial feelings.'   Mandy N (5/2/2007 3:17 p.m.)
        
        If one credits Mary's distinction between pride and...   Adrian (5/2/2007 6:12 p.m.)
        
        .....And furthermore,   Mandy N (5/3/2007 4:23 a.m.)
        
        Reacted atypically?   Tracy W (5/2/2007 6:47 p.m.)
        
        I separate what Lizzy was entitled to feel...   Adrian (5/4/2007 12:45 a.m.)
        
        Do we know that?   Tracy W (5/6/2007 5:07 p.m.)
        
        Please be careful...   Cheryl (5/4/2007 11:11 a.m.)
        
        I agree that we may wish to keep an eye on Lizzy's...   Adrian (5/4/2007 2:21 p.m.)
        
        Lizzy's disposition.   Mandy N (5/4/2007 5:18 a.m.)
    - I agree.Thanks :-) nfm Maria Liourdi (5/2/2007 12:20 p.m.)
- I know Carolyn (5/1/2007 11:53 p.m.)

Valuable neighbors Robbin (5/1/2007 10:45 p.m.)

Great discussion everyone! Thanks! nfm ;D Robbin (5/2/2007 9:05 p.m.)
Am I wrong? Maria Liourdi (5/2/2007 7:08 p.m.)
- I agree with you (nfm) Tracy W (5/2/2007 8:06 p.m.)
Another aspect of this Louise H (5/2/2007 1:13 p.m.)
not to clever... Sandra (5/2/2007 1:00 a.m.)
- Agreed Margaret S (5/2/2007 7:57 a.m.)
My take on it Kathi (5/1/2007 10:54 p.m.)
- Yes... Robbin (5/2/2007 9:06 p.m.)
- Lady Lucas valuable? Shiffie (5/2/2007 6:04 p.m.)
- time with Mrs. Bennet Michaela (5/2/2007 2:44 a.m.)
  - gossip Natalie (5/2/2007 9:50 a.m.)

Quote Chapter 4 Carolyn (5/1/2007 10:32 p.m.)

Why is Mr. Darcy mortified? Marilynn (5/1/2007 10:05 a.m.)

My goodness... Marilynn (5/2/2007 11:59 a.m.)
Slightly different opinion Jesi (5/1/2007 10:33 p.m.)
- "Mortify" is also the word Lizzy uses in Ch. 5 Adrian (5/2/2007 1:22 p.m.)
As others in this thread.... Maria Liourdi (5/1/2007 6:22 p.m.)
- Is Darcy sadistic? How? That is a strong word. nfm ;D Robbin (5/1/2007 9:26 p.m.)
  - OK. you are right... Maria Liourdi (5/2/2007 8:34 a.m.)
    - Of course it was not a waste of time to read your message! Robbin (5/2/2007 8:44 a.m.)
I suspect nan duval (5/1/2007 3:06 p.m.)
- And not only to be wrong, but... Line (5/1/2007 6:42 p.m.)
More subtle, I think. Mandy N (5/1/2007 11:48 a.m.)
- I think...(IMO) Fernanda (5/1/2007 1:08 p.m.)
  - Then I wonder... Mandy N (5/2/2007 12:48 a.m.)
Darcy is shocked to find he was wrong… Robbin (5/1/2007 11:29 a.m.)
- I agree -- Kara M (5/1/2007 4:33 p.m.)
  - Good point… Robbin (5/1/2007 5:36 p.m.)
    - Darcy may have a "what's done is done" philosophy. nfm Adrian (5/1/2007 5:48 p.m.)
      - Yes, that is also a good point! :D nfm Robbin (5/1/2007 6:01 p.m.)
- This sets up an interesting comparison... Adrian (5/1/2007 1:38 p.m.)
  - Great Point Kara M (5/1/2007 4:28 p.m.)
- Perhaps it is because... Jenna R. (5/1/2007 12:59 p.m.)
- I think his mortification is complicated... Arnie Perlstein (5/1/2007 12:37 p.m.)
  - In defence of Darcy jeremy (5/2/2007 6:51 a.m.)
    - I read "publicly" to mean... Line (5/2/2007 6:46 p.m.)
  - Darcy is unrepentant in Chapter 6 Robbin (5/2/2007 1:01 a.m.)
    - What has Darcy done as yet to merit an appology? jeremy (5/2/2007 6:44 a.m.)
      - Actually...   Robbin (5/2/2007 9:13 a.m.)
        
        D lost self control - he likes E against will & reason *nfm*   Margaret S (5/2/2007 1:44 p.m.)
        
        What symptoms of lost control is there in Chapter 6?   Robbin (5/2/2007 8:50 p.m.)
        
        To this discovery succeeded some others equally mortifying   Margaret S (5/3/2007 10:25 p.m.)
        
        Darcy is smug not worried…   Robbin (5/3/2007 11:34 p.m.)
        
        Same point can be used against the "he was wrong" take   Margaret S (5/4/2007 7:58 a.m.)
        
        Time to agree to disagree (nfm)   Linda (5/4/2007 8:34 a.m.)
      - Thanks for the definition! *nfm* Margaret S (5/2/2007 7:49 a.m.)
      - Apology required....   Karen 2L (5/2/2007 7:34 a.m.)
        
        Still in defence of Darcy   jeremy (5/2/2007 8:34 a.m.)
        
        Not acquited.   Mandy N (5/2/2007 11:11 a.m.)
        
        Still Defending Darcy   jeremy (5/3/2007 5:54 a.m.)
        
        Intention follows the bullet   Kathi (5/3/2007 6:50 a.m.)
        
        Legal Analogy   Tiffany Lynn (5/3/2007 10:13 a.m.)
I think Darcy is mortified.. Lisa M. (5/1/2007 10:45 a.m.)
- I'm in full agreement (nfm) Donna h (5/1/2007 4:29 p.m.)
- This is what I think too... Eaffie (5/1/2007 1:40 p.m.)
- Mortified Michaela (5/1/2007 10:51 a.m.)
I am sorry, this is in Ch. 6, nfm Marilynn (5/1/2007 10:19 a.m.)

Jane Austen,Jane Bennet, Dr James and Goody Two shoes. JulieW (5/1/2007 9:07 a.m.)

Thanks Julie, fascinating post;-) (nfm) Moni (5/5/2007 11:27 a.m.)
Wow, what a connection! I'd love to know... Line (5/1/2007 7:24 p.m.)
- Dr James Powders JulieW (5/2/2007 10:12 a.m.)
- It was used for JulieW (5/1/2007 8:37 p.m.)
Strange - and wonderful? Ann2 (5/1/2007 12:51 p.m.)

St James's. JulieW (5/1/2007 8:14 a.m.)

Sir Williams' impressions. Mandy N (5/2/2007 1:17 p.m.)
Oh, Julie, I always look forward to GRs because of you! (nfm) Line (5/1/2007 7:29 p.m.)

Sir William Lucas: just how did he gain his Knighthood? JulieW (5/1/2007 7:39 a.m.)

Sir William's highly favorable report Becky K (5/1/2007 5:05 p.m.)
- The joke about Sir William Lucas being " courteous" JulieW (5/1/2007 8:28 p.m.)
  - Sir William's distinction... Mandy N (5/3/2007 10:24 a.m.)
- I am not sure what you see as the conflict Tracy W (5/1/2007 7:40 p.m.)
  - actions and motives Becky K (5/1/2007 8:42 p.m.)
    - Not supercilious :-) JulieW (5/1/2007 9:03 p.m.)
      - Oh, good Becky K (5/1/2007 11:10 p.m.)
        
        I have to laugh... Carolyn (5/2/2007 12:18 a.m.)
Neat Robbin (5/1/2007 10:47 a.m.)

Mary's Commonplace Book JulieW (5/1/2007 5:26 a.m.)

Thoughts on Mary. Mandy N (5/2/2007 4:51 a.m.)
A more sympathetic view Line (5/1/2007 7:13 p.m.)
- Yes, thats what commonplace books were for, Line JulieW (5/1/2007 8:34 p.m.)
  - Let's cut Regency women some slack; they nan duval (5/1/2007 9:44 p.m.)
    - Erm........ JulieW (5/1/2007 10:47 p.m.)
Thanks Julie W Tracy W (5/1/2007 5:04 p.m.)
- IMHO JulieW (5/1/2007 8:44 p.m.)
  - That passage explains the music studies Tracy W (5/1/2007 10:18 p.m.)
    - Yes, JulieW (5/1/2007 10:43 p.m.)
That is FASCINATING; thank you Julie! Cathy Allen (5/1/2007 2:01 p.m.)
- I can make out the following.... Spencer (5/1/2007 6:30 p.m.)
  - How appropriate... judegray (5/1/2007 6:40 p.m.)
    - Right, just arrogant & conceited. nan duval (5/1/2007 9:49 p.m.)
      - Gentle reminder about use of N-F-M messages Laurel (5/2/2007 7:15 a.m.)
        
        Thanks so much! was confused. nfm nan duval (5/2/2007 8:30 a.m.)

After the assembly discussions Carolyn (4/30/2007 10:53 p.m.)

Even after the fact BarbaraB (5/2/2007 11:06 p.m.)
Something never change Sandra (5/1/2007 8:52 p.m.)

Quote: Chapter 3 Carolyn (4/30/2007 10:22 p.m.)

Excellent choice for Chapter 3. nfm ;D Robbin (5/1/2007 1:44 a.m.)
Very smart choice :) (nfm) Tracy W (4/30/2007 11:13 p.m.)

How quickly does Darcy change his mind? Line (4/30/2007 7:21 p.m.)

Darcy´s change of mind... Fernanda (5/1/2007 2:28 p.m.)
- The passage in question... Tracy W (5/1/2007 3:09 p.m.)
- I completely agree... Kelli Jean (5/1/2007 2:36 p.m.)
Sounds like during their third meeting Tracy W (4/30/2007 7:34 p.m.)
- Well, Darcy's "change" of mind... Spencer (4/30/2007 8:04 p.m.)
  - Darcy's *change* of mind Kathi (4/30/2007 10:14 p.m.)
    - Certain amount of prejudice Jen S (5/1/2007 8:31 a.m.)
      - Pride and prejudice Kathi (5/1/2007 9:06 a.m.)

Focus: Voices: Bingley and Darcy: chapter 3 Tracy W (4/30/2007 6:40 p.m.)

complex language Becky K (5/1/2007 5:09 p.m.)
- The meaning of "stupid" Line (5/1/2007 6:54 p.m.)
  - Possible alternative? Jenna R. (5/2/2007 8:12 p.m.)

Focus: Voices: Mr Bennet and Mrs Bennet Tracy W (4/30/2007 6:21 p.m.)

LOL! BarbaraB (5/2/2007 10:23 p.m.)
I've always considered it LESS about energy and MORE about PeggyC (5/2/2007 2:52 a.m.)
- I like how you put this. nfm Susan L (5/2/2007 6:25 a.m.)
- New to Pemberley? JulieW (5/2/2007 4:36 a.m.)
  - Thanks, but I'm not new..just haven't been around in months (nfm) PeggyC (5/2/2007 5:02 a.m.)
    - You must have missed our name purge Myretta (5/2/2007 5:37 a.m.)
I never noticed this before and it speaks volumes nfm Susan L (5/1/2007 9:50 a.m.)
Very interesting. I get the feeling that they are... Reeba (5/1/2007 5:22 a.m.)
I agree, get the sense of the different engery levels too. nfm Robbin (5/1/2007 1:46 a.m.)

A question about Dance Sets Adrian (4/30/2007 2:11 p.m.)

Another dance question (etiquette) Maisy (4/30/2007 5:59 p.m.)
- No, a gentleman was not obliged to dance Tracy W (5/1/2007 12:55 a.m.)
  - However, JulieW (5/1/2007 5:09 a.m.)
    - I agree and a quote: BarbaraB (5/2/2007 9:00 p.m.)
      - Not an original source - reply made on Austenations   Tracy W (5/2/2007 11:00 p.m.)
        
        Here is a primary source for you   JulieW (5/3/2007 3:52 a.m.)
        
        Cool Source, Thank You   BarbaraB (5/5/2007 10:31 p.m.)
        
        Please remember to put en ef em on the subject line   Linda (5/6/2007 9:41 p.m.)
        
        And another, slightly eariler primary source   JulieW (5/3/2007 5:59 a.m.)
        
        I agree with you that Darcy was wrong in not socialising   Tracy W (5/3/2007 5:02 p.m.)
        
        Quite.   JulieW (5/4/2007 3:31 a.m.)
        
        Mr Knightley   Tracy W (5/6/2007 5:02 p.m.)
        
        Contemporary sources   Myretta (5/6/2007 8:40 p.m.)
        
        So when Bingley is angry the Assembly was so short...   Adrian (5/4/2007 2:35 p.m.)
        
        He probalby was, don't you think?   JulieW (5/4/2007 3:12 p.m.)
        
        Yes, Jane would have been reason enough. (nfm)   Adrian (5/4/2007 7:47 p.m.)
        
        Thanks, Julie!   Line (5/4/2007 8:25 a.m.)
        
        Exactly ,Line   JulieW (5/4/2007 9:59 a.m.)
    - You are right, Darcy was very standoffish Tracy W (5/1/2007 4:58 p.m.)
      - Hmmm..... JulieW (5/1/2007 8:14 p.m.)
        
        Thank you Julie Maisy (5/2/2007 8:43 a.m.)
Length of time Kara M (4/30/2007 4:37 p.m.)
And if Jean B (4/30/2007 4:31 p.m.)
- Yes - 2 x 2 dances, or about... Line (4/30/2007 6:56 p.m.)
Some more questions Carolyn (4/30/2007 4:13 p.m.)
- JA mentions the "Boulanger" JulieW (5/1/2007 11:56 a.m.)
  - A little further digging JulieW (5/1/2007 1:52 p.m.)
    - Nice! Maria Liourdi (5/1/2007 2:35 p.m.)
- 'and the Boulanger -' Mandy N (5/1/2007 10:18 a.m.)
- The Boulanger Line (4/30/2007 6:52 p.m.)
Great questions! Amy Elizabeth (4/30/2007 3:48 p.m.)

Darcy and Caroline Bingley Kat (4/30/2007 11:22 a.m.)

perhaps Kelly-anne (5/1/2007 2:37 a.m.)
Maybe he wants to be teased? *nfm* Margaret S (4/30/2007 4:08 p.m.)
- That's an interesting thought Kathi (5/1/2007 9:36 p.m.)
  - C is the best person to remind him how irrational he is *nfm* Margaret S (5/1/2007 10:09 p.m.)
    - I assume you're suggesting ... Kathi (5/1/2007 11:02 p.m.)
Perhaps we see here an early instance of Darcy's ... Adrian (4/30/2007 12:30 p.m.)
- I think Rebecca K (5/1/2007 6:15 a.m.)
- I agree: "...honesty over tact." Maria Liourdi (4/30/2007 12:56 p.m.)
  - I meant "surprising".... nfm Maria Liourdi (4/30/2007 1:02 p.m.)
Indifference Cheryl (4/30/2007 12:21 p.m.)
- How funny - I always thought... Line (4/30/2007 6:14 p.m.)
Why Darcy tells Caroline Maisy (4/30/2007 12:20 p.m.)
- Caroline's habit... Mandy N (4/30/2007 4:53 p.m.)
  - It appears that BOTH Caroline and Lizzy think... Adrian (5/1/2007 2:59 p.m.)
    - Actually, Caroline does know Darcy pretty well Kara M (5/1/2007 4:19 p.m.)
      - Caroline's astonishment. Mandy N (5/2/2007 1:39 a.m.)
      - Good point! Line (5/1/2007 6:38 p.m.)
  - ROTFLOL, Mandy!!! *nfm* Elizabeth Sycamore (4/30/2007 5:02 p.m.)
I think Darcy.... Lisa M. (4/30/2007 12:14 p.m.)
- completely agree with you Fernanda (5/1/2007 1:50 p.m.)
To shut her up maybe? B. Michelle (4/30/2007 12:06 p.m.)

Austen's hammering message of sisters' silliness Ana L (4/30/2007 11:12 a.m.)

why do they give up? Felicia (4/30/2007 11:26 p.m.)
- Did they ever make an effort? Kathi (5/1/2007 9:48 p.m.)
- Possible reasons Ana L (5/1/2007 11:18 a.m.)
I wonder.. Felicia (4/30/2007 11:51 a.m.)
- Mr and Mrs Bennet Lia (4/30/2007 12:30 p.m.)

Focusing on objects and movement in chapters 4 – 6 Margaret S (4/30/2007 10:31 a.m.)

LOL!! I love the... Reeba (5/1/2007 5:28 a.m.)

Bingley sisters' fortune Emmy (4/30/2007 10:09 a.m.)

Collectively abdullyne (5/2/2007 9:45 p.m.)
each Lyss (4/30/2007 10:13 a.m.)
- i think...each of them Fernanda (5/1/2007 9:24 p.m.)

Ch 3 - Darcy's income Jesi (4/30/2007 9:00 a.m.)

I wonder... Fernanda (5/1/2007 2:42 p.m.)
Guessing Kat (4/30/2007 11:07 a.m.)
I have often wondered... Emmy (4/30/2007 10:12 a.m.)
sir Lucas Lyss (4/30/2007 10:12 a.m.)
- I don't think JulieW (4/30/2007 11:46 a.m.)

Bingley sees Darcy’s Darkside Robbin (4/30/2007 12:41 a.m.)

A Bingley/Jane contrast Adrian (4/30/2007 1:49 p.m.)
Bingley... and being fastidious. Mandy N (4/30/2007 6:57 a.m.)
- Bingley is certainly not weak Rose G (4/30/2007 10:15 a.m.)
  - I've always felt Jean B (4/30/2007 11:01 a.m.)

Chapter 7 question.. Felicia (4/30/2007 12:32 a.m.)

I really think this statement is an example Kara M (4/30/2007 2:36 p.m.)
On Miss Watson... Mandy N (4/30/2007 3:34 a.m.)
- I think.... Arnie Perlstein (4/30/2007 4:45 p.m.)
- Not so interesting, I suspect :-) Line (4/30/2007 8:05 a.m.)
  - Miss Watson's could certainly be another circulating library JulieW (4/30/2007 9:10 a.m.)
    - If I could only remember where I read this... :-( (nfm) Line (4/30/2007 5:56 p.m.)
    - Circulating libraries of Meryton... Mandy N (4/30/2007 12:25 p.m.)
    - Thank you all Felicia (4/30/2007 11:42 a.m.)
      - And thanks to you for asking such a good question! Arnie Perlstein (5/2/2007 7:46 p.m.)
        
        curious Felicia (5/2/2007 8:31 p.m.)
    - What is the significance of favouring a different library? *nfm* Margaret S (4/30/2007 9:30 a.m.)
      - Personal perference? JulieW (4/30/2007 9:32 a.m.)

Please remember... Cheryl (4/29/2007 10:38 p.m.)

Why did Darcy attend the assembly? Mary Ellen (4/29/2007 10:36 p.m.)

I think it was to support Bingley (NFM) Eaffie (5/1/2007 1:56 p.m.)
perverse Kelly-anne (5/1/2007 2:47 a.m.)
- Perverse entertainment Robbin (5/1/2007 11:50 a.m.)
At Caroline’s pleasure? Robbin (4/30/2007 12:08 a.m.)
- As an aside, could Caroline be engaged in... Adrian (4/30/2007 12:49 p.m.)
  - Engaged Robbin (4/30/2007 2:56 p.m.)
    - Since Darcy had presumably already danced with Caroline... Adrian (5/1/2007 3:07 p.m.)
      - Dancing a second set… (long) Robbin (5/1/2007 10:19 p.m.)
        
        You make a very good case BarbaraB (5/2/2007 8:26 p.m.)
    - On Robin's message... Maria Liourdi (4/30/2007 5:35 p.m.)
      - A woman could refuse a man for one dance... Tracy W (4/30/2007 5:59 p.m.)
        
        Thanks! :-) Maria Liourdi (4/30/2007 6:17 p.m.)

Quote: Chapter 2 Carolyn (4/29/2007 10:20 p.m.)

I think he took JulieW (4/30/2007 9:15 a.m.)
- To go even further, not teasing Mrs Bennett Susan L (5/1/2007 2:14 a.m.)

Mr. Bennet's horses. Lia (4/29/2007 6:54 p.m.)

I meant to post this under Line's comment below, sorry (nfm) Lia (4/29/2007 8:30 p.m.)
More to it than that Maisy (4/29/2007 7:13 p.m.)
- What tax rate should he have applied? Tracy W (4/29/2007 8:02 p.m.)
  - I should think JulieW (4/30/2007 5:37 a.m.)
    - Does scrupluous honesty require maximising taxes? Tracy W (4/30/2007 3:45 p.m.)
      - No,I think you misunderstand me.   JulieW (4/30/2007 4:14 p.m.)
        
        I am not an expert on 18th century tax law...   Tracy W (4/30/2007 4:42 p.m.)
        
        See my post below :-) nfm.   JulieW (4/30/2007 5:00 p.m.)
  - Mr Bennet's farm & horses. Mandy N (4/30/2007 2:27 a.m.)
    - Since this would be fall, after Michaelmas (29 Sept),... Adrian (4/30/2007 12:56 p.m.)
      - Harvest   JulieW (4/30/2007 2:55 p.m.)
        
        Julie, thank you. My lack of farming knowledge and...   Adrian (5/1/2007 3:15 p.m.)
        
        Thansk for   JulieW (5/1/2007 3:46 p.m.)
        
        I enjoyed this post a lot---thanks! ;D nfm   Robbin (5/1/2007 9:49 a.m.)
        
        Traditional Michaelmas dish.   Mandy N (5/1/2007 9:35 a.m.)
        
        Horses would be needed   LauraG (4/30/2007 3:11 p.m.)
        
        Yes there is   JulieW (4/30/2007 3:48 p.m.)
        
        If the Bennets are living up to their family income...   Tracy W (4/30/2007 4:47 p.m.)
        
        But that's not really   JulieW (4/30/2007 4:59 p.m.)
        
        Wonderful!   Maisy (4/30/2007 3:07 p.m.)
    - Does Mr. Bennet have his own farm? Karen 2L (4/30/2007 9:22 a.m.)
      - I think Mr Bennet JulieW (4/30/2007 9:35 a.m.)

a chaise and four Carolyn (4/29/2007 2:45 p.m.)

Man in a hurry.... JulieW (4/29/2007 3:03 p.m.)
- Transportation focus and questions Line (4/29/2007 6:54 p.m.)
  - Travelling JulieW (4/30/2007 8:28 a.m.)

Acquaintances and study of characters LauraG (4/29/2007 2:23 p.m.)

Did you notice the symmetry? Tracy W (4/29/2007 8:17 p.m.)
- a gullible reader LauraG (4/30/2007 8:50 a.m.)
  - Often in life we have to make decisions quickly Tracy W (4/30/2007 5:33 p.m.)
  - First Impressions Kara M (4/30/2007 3:10 p.m.)
- Good comments and some thoughts I had Susan L (4/29/2007 9:37 p.m.)
I had not notices Mr. Bennet's foreshadowing line before, Silvia O (4/29/2007 7:43 p.m.)

Lizzy & Darcy: Birds of a Feather? (Chapters 3 & 4) Robbin (4/29/2007 12:53 p.m.)

Darcy gave no one a chance to be friendly Adrian (4/29/2007 1:04 p.m.)
- Good point Robbin (4/29/2007 1:58 p.m.)

BFF Relationship Parallels in Chapter 4 Robbin (4/29/2007 12:33 p.m.)

I agree Katy B (4/29/2007 7:24 p.m.)
Charlotte and Lizzie as BFFs Geri-Lynn (4/29/2007 1:06 p.m.)
- What are BFFs? Kathi (4/30/2007 2:31 a.m.)
  - Agree nfm BarbaraB (4/30/2007 6:41 p.m.)
  - BFF is best friends forever; I agree with you too. nfm ;D Robbin (4/30/2007 5:46 a.m.)
- Is Charlotte's understanding due to wealth or... Adrian (4/29/2007 1:19 p.m.)
  - I have always interpreted "young" as "10-years-old Silvia O (4/29/2007 7:50 p.m.)
  - I think that I agree with... Spencer (4/29/2007 6:38 p.m.)
    - Mrs. Bennet & "young Lucas" Maisy (4/29/2007 7:19 p.m.)
    - Slighting LIzzie Geri-Lynn (4/29/2007 7:03 p.m.)
      - I do not see Charlotte taking any pleasure in...   Adrian (4/29/2007 7:18 p.m.)
        
        Yet Charlotte does sound very much like she's joking   Tracy W (4/29/2007 7:38 p.m.)
        
        she buys into the idea   Katy B (4/29/2007 7:31 p.m.)
        
        Charlotte's motivation   Susan L (4/29/2007 9:28 p.m.)
        
        Your remark on the benefit of not knowing...   William D (4/29/2007 10:27 p.m.)

Designs on Bingley? Robbin (4/29/2007 12:27 p.m.)

Interest Margaret S (4/29/2007 6:13 p.m.)
- I always wondered why Mrs. B. did not ensure loriclp (4/29/2007 8:07 p.m.)
  - Mrs Bennet did try to arrange your third option Tracy W (4/29/2007 8:28 p.m.)
    - Oh yes! You are right . loriclp (4/29/2007 8:58 p.m.)

Bingley's first visit to Longbourne Silvia O (4/29/2007 10:42 a.m.)

The answer is JulieW (4/30/2007 5:22 a.m.)
- Yes, thank you JulieW, Silvia O (5/1/2007 7:49 p.m.)
- In the Annotated P&P Mary Ellen (4/30/2007 4:19 p.m.)
- It gets better & better ... thanks for the info (nfm) Susan L (4/30/2007 6:38 a.m.)
- Thanks so much JulieW Jo Y (4/30/2007 6:02 a.m.)
Etiquette, perversity or impending loss? Jo Y (4/30/2007 3:36 a.m.)
- I think etiquette Eaffie (4/30/2007 1:45 p.m.)
  - Hmm, Mr. & Mrs. Bennett as empty nesters nan duval (5/1/2007 10:49 p.m.)
Decorum or Mr Bennett's perversity Susan L (4/29/2007 9:18 p.m.)
Decorum, I think Jean B (4/29/2007 12:18 p.m.)
- Perhaps Mr. Bennet felt that the fewer of his girls... Adrian (4/29/2007 6:49 p.m.)
  - That makes a lot of sense... Silvia O (4/29/2007 7:27 p.m.)
- But then why... Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 4:21 p.m.)
  - I think that perhaps... Elizabeth Sycamore (4/29/2007 8:31 p.m.)
    - Lydia Jen S (4/29/2007 9:27 p.m.)
  - They saw him through a window Jean B (4/29/2007 5:03 p.m.)
  - Chance, not for Jane certainly… Robbin (4/29/2007 4:43 p.m.)
    - Missunderstanding I think... Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 5:01 p.m.)
      - I must say, Jean B! Spencer (4/29/2007 6:45 p.m.)

Bingley family and fortune. Mandy N (4/29/2007 10:35 a.m.)

Maybe... Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 5:29 p.m.)
- Bingleys' family & fortune. Mandy N (4/30/2007 2:20 p.m.)
  - May I ask a couple of questions? Tracy W (4/30/2007 4:36 p.m.)
    - We'll try it again... Mandy N (4/30/2007 8:57 p.m.)
      - Did not mean to accuse you of really believing JA is lying Tracy W (4/30/2007 10:08 p.m.)
        
        That's okay, and let's agree to disagree. Mandy N (5/1/2007 3:36 a.m.)
    - More about Bingley's family Line (4/30/2007 6:41 p.m.)
      - Why would the Bingley sisters...   Tracy W (4/30/2007 7:25 p.m.)
        
        I think...   Maisy (5/1/2007 6:40 a.m.)
        
        Thanks for trying to clarify my post, Maisy!   Line (5/1/2007 7:46 p.m.)
- Families are long and complicated Tracy W (4/29/2007 7:25 p.m.)
  - Very helpful background infos :-) NFM Maria Liourdi (4/30/2007 12:17 p.m.)
- Exactly! :-) (nfm) Line (4/29/2007 6:02 p.m.)
I am afraid that I don't quite understand your question Tracy W (4/29/2007 5:09 p.m.)

Objects and movements Margaret S (4/29/2007 10:09 a.m.)

Miss King Jen S (4/29/2007 9:18 p.m.)
Bingley's Blue Coat JulieW (4/29/2007 11:52 a.m.)
- Blue dye Margaret S (4/29/2007 6:50 p.m.)
  - I've always had the impression JulieW (4/30/2007 5:12 a.m.)
I work in a school, and we are always BrendaB (4/29/2007 11:20 a.m.)
- visualization Katy B (4/29/2007 7:19 p.m.)
  - It is the narrators voice IMO... Robbin (4/29/2007 8:02 p.m.)

A question Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 9:51 a.m.)

Map (mentioned in Maria Liourdi's post) Diane Frances (4/29/2007 12:15 p.m.)
- Hello Diane.... JulieW (4/29/2007 12:53 p.m.)
Longbourn etc JulieW (4/29/2007 11:24 a.m.)
- That helps indeed! :-) Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 4:06 p.m.)
I think... Eaffie (4/29/2007 11:16 a.m.)
- Not necessarily villages ;-) JulieW (4/29/2007 12:10 p.m.)
  - Actually, you answered my question.... Eaffie (4/29/2007 1:49 p.m.)
    - Wow, I had never thought of them all as villages! Mary Ellen (4/29/2007 10:22 p.m.)
      - To break the rule slightly   JulieW (4/30/2007 5:04 a.m.)
        
        Thanks...   Eaffie (4/30/2007 1:39 p.m.)
        
        As we have not met   JulieW (4/30/2007 2:59 p.m.)
  - Estates vs Villages Eaffie (4/29/2007 1:39 p.m.)
    - Question about Longbourne village Lia (4/29/2007 5:30 p.m.)
      - Both, I think Line (4/29/2007 6:05 p.m.)

Mr. Morris Line (4/29/2007 9:32 a.m.)

I alwas thought... Amy Elizabeth (4/30/2007 11:54 a.m.)
- A happier possibility... Tracy W (4/30/2007 5:15 p.m.)
  - Or that JulieW (5/1/2007 2:54 a.m.)
Wondered about this also William D (4/29/2007 2:52 p.m.)
Netherfield Park impressions... Mandy N (4/29/2007 10:09 a.m.)

Quote: Chapter 1 Carolyn (4/29/2007 8:45 a.m.)

Perhaps since young lady wants to "marry UP"... Adrian (4/30/2007 1:20 p.m.)
Mr. Bennet and marriage Outi (4/30/2007 1:48 a.m.)
- But Mr Bennet did meet Mr Bingley.... Eaffie (4/30/2007 1:51 p.m.)
  - Introductory visit Mandy N (4/30/2007 3:13 p.m.)

My first laugh-out-loud line Laurel (4/29/2007 8:44 a.m.)

I also loved Jean B (4/29/2007 12:24 p.m.)
It was Mr.Bennet's response to this... Jenny (4/29/2007 12:11 p.m.)
- Oh, yes...Mr. B's response... Gloria (4/29/2007 5:42 p.m.)
Oh, I've got one! Jen S (4/29/2007 9:06 a.m.)
- Mary & Miss Bingley Katy B (4/29/2007 6:58 p.m.)

Chapter Quotes Carolyn (4/29/2007 8:35 a.m.)

Fickle Public Opinion Cheryl (4/28/2007 9:32 p.m.)

Darcy is the author of all… Robbin (4/29/2007 3:54 p.m.)
- Even ruder than he appears? Carolyn (4/29/2007 10:43 p.m.)
  - Oh yes! Robbin (4/29/2007 11:42 p.m.)
- Nicely Said BarbaraB (4/29/2007 5:14 p.m.)
- Putting myself in his situation. . . William D (4/29/2007 4:37 p.m.)
  - Not quiet or subdued nan duval (5/1/2007 6:33 p.m.)
  - Partially true... Eaffie (4/30/2007 2:01 p.m.)
    - Austen says that Darcy is reserved... Karen 2L (4/30/2007 2:43 p.m.)
      - Thank you for this Maisy (4/30/2007 3:10 p.m.)
        
        I agree, helpful indeed! nfm ;D Robbin (4/30/2007 3:17 p.m.)
  - IMO Darcy is not misunderstood… Robbin (4/29/2007 9:38 p.m.)
    - And third... Kathi (4/30/2007 2:20 a.m.)
      - Yes, I have to agree Kathi! nfm ;D Robbin (4/30/2007 5:53 a.m.)
  - I agree, too Denise H (4/29/2007 8:28 p.m.)
  - I definatelly agree... Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 5:20 p.m.)
- How Elizabeth took it Cheryl (4/29/2007 4:31 p.m.)
  - Too True NFM BarbaraB (4/29/2007 5:17 p.m.)
  - I must agree with you… Robbin (4/29/2007 5:03 p.m.)
Meryton Opinion BarbaraB (4/29/2007 9:13 a.m.)
- Change of Meryton opinion ' about half the evening...' Mandy N (4/29/2007 9:48 a.m.)
I think it was...... Jen S (4/29/2007 8:56 a.m.)
- Darcy gave offence in his own circles Lisa M. (4/30/2007 11:01 a.m.)
- opposites attract Outi (4/30/2007 1:40 a.m.)
  - Darcy being anxious Ruth Anne (4/30/2007 2:10 p.m.)
- Are we perhaps to quick to judge, as readers, Susan L (4/29/2007 9:02 p.m.)
  - Darcy’s first impression Robbin (4/29/2007 11:26 p.m.)
  - We, as readers BarbaraB (4/29/2007 10:48 p.m.)
- In Darcy's defense Tiffany Lynn (4/29/2007 12:55 p.m.)
  - New to Pemberley? Cheryl (4/30/2007 4:38 p.m.)
  - Judging the locals Kathi (4/30/2007 3:53 a.m.)
  - Disagree :-) Maisy (4/29/2007 2:23 p.m.)
    - Insupportable, but why? Margaret S (4/29/2007 6:29 p.m.)
      - That's not what the narrator tells us   Kathi (4/29/2007 10:10 p.m.)
        
        "truth ... man ... fortune ... wife" No? *nfm*   Margaret S (4/30/2007 3:32 a.m.)
        
        The narrator's opinion and Darcy's behavior   Kathi (4/30/2007 3:48 a.m.)
        
        Maybe Darcy should've stayed at Netherfield. ;-)   Mandy N (4/30/2007 4:03 a.m.)
        
        Hmmm   Mrs. Van Dunk (4/30/2007 10:53 a.m.)
        
        Darcy is afraid of being hurt?   Robbin (4/30/2007 12:21 p.m.)
        
        Partly agree   Tiffany Lynn (4/30/2007 5:34 p.m.)
        
        Darcy fooling Bingley   Robbin (5/1/2007 1:33 a.m.)
        
        Sorry, I'm confused   Kathi (4/30/2007 10:32 p.m.)
        
        better explanation   Tiffany Lynn (4/30/2007 10:50 p.m.)
        
        Thanks   Kathi (5/1/2007 10:50 p.m.)
        
        Perhaps we should agree to disagree   Marilynn (4/30/2007 4:04 p.m.)
        
        As you wish. nfm :)   Robbin (4/30/2007 5:21 p.m.)
        
        What's so preposterous ?   Mandy N (4/30/2007 11:38 a.m.)
        
        Definately not the behavior of a gentleman or gentlewoman   Marilynn (4/30/2007 12:11 p.m.)
        
        We don't only have ...   Kathi (4/30/2007 11:35 p.m.)
        
        I want to pick up on Marilynn's excellent observation...   Arnie Perlstein (4/30/2007 7:07 p.m.)
        
        Just a Personal Observation   BarbaraB (5/1/2007 6:47 p.m.)
        
        ...except that Darcy is not shy.   Karen 2L (4/30/2007 9:02 p.m.)
        
        I appreciate   Felicia (4/30/2007 10:46 p.m.)
        
        And yet if JA intended to portray...   Kathi (4/30/2007 11:33 p.m.)
        
        You read the narrator differently than I do...   Arnie Perlstein (5/1/2007 12:29 a.m.)
        
        I so agree   Marilynn (5/1/2007 8:57 a.m.)
        
        The narrator's supposed bias   Kathi (5/1/2007 4:54 a.m.)
        
        Objective or subjective?   Line (5/1/2007 8:19 a.m.)
        
        Au contraire, madame...   Arnie Perlstein (5/1/2007 8:15 a.m.)
        
        OK, please now   JulieW (5/1/2007 8:19 a.m.)
        
        Oops, sorry - didn't see your post in time, Julie! (nfm)   Line (5/1/2007 8:26 a.m.)
        
        Not just the narrator.   Mandy N (5/1/2007 3:56 a.m.)
        
        One important correction to my message...   Arnie Perlstein (4/30/2007 11:19 p.m.)
        
        Reserved, shy, what's the difference....   Arnie Perlstein (4/30/2007 10:24 p.m.)
        
        Narrator :-)   Maisy (4/30/2007 12:26 p.m.)
        
        Quite so, NFM   Marilynn (4/30/2007 1:42 p.m.)
        
        New to Pemberley?   Cheryl (4/30/2007 10:56 a.m.)
        
        Pardon me.   Marilynn (4/30/2007 11:22 a.m.)
        
        Thanks, Marilynn   Cheryl (4/30/2007 12:05 p.m.)
    - This is what does it for me too BarbaraB (4/29/2007 4:09 p.m.)
    - Absolutely! Jen S (4/29/2007 2:33 p.m.)
      - This, however, indicates.... Eaffie (4/30/2007 2:16 p.m.)
  - I agree, and also.... Eaffie (4/29/2007 1:42 p.m.)
    - I sympathise with Darcy, being a misanthropist myself. Silvia O (5/2/2007 7:59 p.m.)
      - I don't think Darcy... Elizabeth Sycamore (5/3/2007 4:07 p.m.)
        
        Good point! nfm ;D Robbin (5/3/2007 5:06 p.m.)
      - No monopoly of insight.   Mandy N (5/3/2007 12:20 p.m.)
        
        Shark infested waters   Robbin (5/3/2007 10:51 p.m.)
        
        An amusing scenario but -   Mandy N (5/4/2007 6:43 a.m.)
        
        You are right...   Robbin (5/4/2007 9:28 a.m.)
        
        Despite his impression, Darcy did receive attention at MA *nfm*   Margaret S (5/4/2007 7:41 a.m.)
        
        Quite so,   Mandy N (5/4/2007 11:00 a.m.)
        
        I don't think receiving attention meant being noticed...   Adrian (5/4/2007 2:13 p.m.)
        
        Very interesting.   Silvia O (5/6/2007 6:02 p.m.)
        
        What *did* Darcy mean by receiving little/no attention?   Lia (5/4/2007 7:37 p.m.)
        
        What kind of attention did Darcy expect?   Robbin (5/5/2007 3:02 a.m.)
        
        Courtesies to Darcy...   Mandy N (5/4/2007 3:49 p.m.)
        
        Catch of the day   Margaret S (5/3/2007 10:04 p.m.)
        
        Not trying to catch him?   Tracy W (5/3/2007 5:40 p.m.)
        
        No text evidence yet even if 'plotting'....   Mandy N (5/4/2007 11:58 a.m.)
        
        Thank you, Tracy, I was going to quote that line myself.   Silvia O (5/3/2007 8:56 p.m.)
        
        Husband-hunting   Line (5/3/2007 10:31 p.m.)
        
        He was used to the attention but...   Lia (5/4/2007 7:27 p.m.)
      - But how does he know that? Kathi (5/3/2007 12:58 a.m.)
      - Except that... Line (5/2/2007 11:13 p.m.)
        
        Being from a large city myself... Cathy Allen (5/3/2007 12:14 p.m.)
    - That's interestng, but Mandy N (4/30/2007 3:00 a.m.)
      - Mrs Bennet...   Eaffie (4/30/2007 2:22 p.m.)
        
        Mrs B's interest is Bingley.   Mandy N (4/30/2007 3:42 p.m.)
        
        Ah but the chance he'd marry a local girl   Tracy W (4/30/2007 5:50 p.m.)
    - And yet... Maisy (4/29/2007 2:24 p.m.)
      - Miss Bingley   Jen S (4/29/2007 2:38 p.m.)
        
        Caroline and Darcy   Kathi (4/30/2007 5:07 a.m.)
        
        Definitely, but   Jen S (4/30/2007 10:14 a.m.)
        
        That phrase struck me this time, too.   Kathi (4/30/2007 10:37 p.m.)
        
        IMO, you are not reading too much into Darcy's comments (NFM)   Eaffie (4/30/2007 2:34 p.m.)
        
        Right   Maisy (4/29/2007 5:18 p.m.)
First impressions... Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 8:51 a.m.)
- Yes, expectations were high Maisy (4/29/2007 9:25 a.m.)
Darcys pride Michaela (4/29/2007 8:10 a.m.)
- The first use of the word pride LauraG (4/29/2007 2:40 p.m.)
- Pride and self-esteem. Mandy N (4/29/2007 12:47 p.m.)

P&P Focus Topics? Cheryl (4/28/2007 9:29 p.m.)

Different language for different characters Tracy W (4/29/2007 4:53 p.m.)
- This sounds so interesting... Eaffie (4/30/2007 2:23 p.m.)
Spoilers in this thread re: Charlotte Lucas -nfm Maisy (4/29/2007 2:04 p.m.)
Charlotte' s decision Diane Stidham (4/29/2007 1:02 p.m.)
- Consider it in context Tracy W (4/29/2007 5:26 p.m.)
- Charlotte' s decision Diane Frances (4/29/2007 2:27 p.m.)
  - Too late Cheryl (4/29/2007 4:11 p.m.)
Looking at Motive Robbin (4/29/2007 12:08 p.m.)
- That seems really interesting! Silvia O (4/29/2007 2:08 p.m.)
I´m focusing this time on Jane and Mr.Bingley Fernanda (4/29/2007 11:38 a.m.)
- A similar focus Pennie (4/29/2007 7:19 p.m.)
I'm focusing on Mr. Bennet. Silvia O (4/29/2007 11:11 a.m.)
- I think it is time... Rose G (4/30/2007 8:40 a.m.)
- Marital lives Michaela (4/29/2007 5:00 p.m.)
Great idea! Jen S (4/29/2007 8:38 a.m.)
- Daughters not present. Lia (4/29/2007 4:58 p.m.)
  - Not then but other times Kathi (4/30/2007 4:05 a.m.)
- Changing ideas of child-rearing Line (4/29/2007 9:44 a.m.)
  - Wow, Good One, Line --NFM BarbaraB (4/29/2007 3:34 p.m.)
  - Autobiographical? Maria Liourdi (4/29/2007 10:13 a.m.)
    - I've often wondered that as well. (NFM) Natalie (4/29/2007 5:45 p.m.)
neighbors, smiles, and food Carolyn (4/29/2007 8:26 a.m.)
- Oh, such fun ! Mandy N (4/29/2007 11:04 a.m.)
  - I certainly intend to JulieW (4/29/2007 11:15 a.m.)
- Along similar lines Line (4/29/2007 8:52 a.m.)
  - my focus-character development Katy B (4/29/2007 6:42 p.m.)
    - JA's joke Line (4/29/2007 7:22 p.m.)
      - Bingley's sisters Katy B (5/1/2007 9:43 p.m.)
  - Economical indeed! Lia (4/29/2007 5:07 p.m.)
  - I noticed that too, BrendaB (4/29/2007 11:25 a.m.)
What a coincidence! Geri-Lynn (4/29/2007 8:21 a.m.)
- Well... BarbaraB (4/29/2007 8:47 a.m.)
  - Oh oh... Sophie (4/30/2007 6:38 a.m.)
    - :) nfm BarbaraB (4/30/2007 6:07 p.m.)
    - giggle (nfm) Tracy W (4/30/2007 5:52 p.m.)
  - LOL!! This was... Reeba (4/29/2007 9:00 a.m.)
    - We all seem to be on the same wavelength! Geri-Lynn (4/29/2007 12:37 p.m.)

Welcome to the Group Read Cheryl (4/28/2007 9:27 p.m.)

glad to join you Kelly-anne (5/1/2007 1:53 a.m.)
- The more the merrier - hope you're feeling better! :-) (nfm) Line (5/1/2007 7:36 p.m.)
Hello! I am glad to be here! nfm ;D Robbin (4/29/2007 11:36 a.m.)
Thanks,Cheryl JulieW (4/29/2007 8:53 a.m.)
- You've given me a question already, Julie! Line (4/29/2007 9:09 a.m.)
  - The "Military Library" JulieW (4/29/2007 10:18 a.m.)
    - Thanks, Julie - very helpful, as usual! Line (4/29/2007 6:11 p.m.)
      - Circulating library JulieW (4/30/2007 4:56 a.m.)
        
        Thanks again, Julie! Line (4/30/2007 7:33 p.m.)

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