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Lady Elliot's pride Written by Martina (10/21/2008 11:11 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, You're right, Rose, penned by Line

I am not entirely convinced that what Ch. 4 describes is LR being very much in favour of the match between Anne and Charles.

I think the ON is saying that LR would have tried to encourage Anne to accept Charles because she wants to see her married and happy rather than turn into a spinster and continue to live with her dysfunctional family. If she had been asked for advice by Anne, LR would have spoken of Charles's good qualities. But Anne refused Charles without consulting LR.

Charles wasn't what LR considered the best match for Anne, LR was still hoping for something better for Anne (a man with talents and independence), but given Anne's advancing age (now 22!) and her state of depression after CW left, LR would have happily promoted Charles if Anne showed any indication of being inclined towards him.

IMHO, LR shows a streak of pride in the later chapters as well. CW on his return, is everything she had earlier wanted for Anne, but LR is too proud to admit this to herself or to Anne. Hence that angry perverted pleasure that CW did not pursue Anne again and is now interested in Louisa, a pretty face only, with none of Anne's virtues.

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What is Mary's problem? Rachel G (10/20/2008 9:00 a.m.)

"Mary has too much of the Elliott pride." Mary NM (10/20/2008 11:02 a.m.)
- Poor Mary Patricia P (10/20/2008 1:17 p.m.)
  - My guess is Martina (10/21/2008 12:23 a.m.)
    - Elizabeth had a letter from Mary Mary NM (10/21/2008 1:25 a.m.)
      - Did she? Martina (10/21/2008 1:43 a.m.)
    - LR and CM Rose G (10/21/2008 8:34 a.m.)
      - You're right, Rose   Line (10/21/2008 8:43 a.m.)
        
        Lady Elliot's pride   Martina (10/21/2008 11:11 p.m.)
        
        Should read Lady Russell's pride *nfm*   Martina (10/21/2008 11:16 p.m.)
If Mary Goes Home LeeAnne (10/20/2008 11:30 a.m.)
- But she actually has children... MarianneR (10/20/2008 12:25 p.m.)
  - I agree wholeheartedly with you LeeAnne (10/20/2008 1:17 p.m.)
    - Yes. Mary is a taker, not a giver. nfm Rachel G (10/20/2008 2:06 p.m.)
  - Well... Rae (10/20/2008 1:24 p.m.)
  - Mary's letter in Chapter 18 Cathy Allen (10/20/2008 2:33 p.m.)
    - Anne took after her mother - that's probably why. Tom P2 (10/20/2008 4:17 p.m.)
      - Good points, Tom, but her mother died so many years ago... Cathy Allen (10/20/2008 6:53 p.m.)
        
        Not only influence - the genes... MarianneR (10/21/2008 2:51 a.m.)
- Company, company, where would Mary be without company? Tom P2 (10/20/2008 4:01 p.m.)
  - Well said, Tom; thanks! (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/20/2008 6:55 p.m.)
- Mary's reasons for being in Lyme JoAnn (10/21/2008 1:35 p.m.)
  - Exactly! Rachel G (10/21/2008 2:10 p.m.)
    - Kinda like Mrs. Norris LeeAnne (10/22/2008 8:03 a.m.)
      - I wonder if Mary was a disappointment to Sir Walter. Graciela (10/22/2008 9:54 p.m.)
        
        Youngest *unmarried* daughter? NFM JanELT (10/23/2008 1:33 a.m.)

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