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Subconscious... Written by Moni (10/15/2008 8:16 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, Anne v. Wentworth, penned by Deborah Y

This is tricky, because if he subconsciously is in love with her, there would be an associated kind of tenderness for her feelings. What we see instead, is a kind of relentless singling her out for bitter feelings from nearly eight years ago.

How can Anne work out where he is? He is definitely not being clear. Even if it were subconsciously love, it is not what Anne is being shown, by his behaviour. At one point she analyses his behaviour and says the only socially wrong thing he is doing is appearing to court two women at once. This is how it looks to Anne,and this is what everyone is talking about around her.

Had he become hardened by his life on board? Can he not see that his attentions to Louisa are overt, and that his attentions to Henrietta might get him into trouble? In this way, if he loves Anne, how can he practice this kind of duplicity? Interesting to think about.

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Autumnal Persuasion, Week 2 Cheryl (10/13/2008 12:01 a.m.)

Poignancy Cathy Allen (10/13/2008 2:36 p.m.)
- Autumn imagery... Mandy N (10/13/2008 3:10 p.m.)
The chapter seven parts... Moni (10/13/2008 12:55 p.m.)
- My impression nan duval (10/17/2008 8:57 p.m.)
- Badly done, indeed. Off you go to detention, Wentworth! NFM JanELT (10/13/2008 3:36 p.m.)
- Raffling himself off? Rae (10/13/2008 1:04 p.m.)
  - I am not sure it sat well with... Moni (10/14/2008 4:29 a.m.)
    - I am not denying that he behaves badly... Rae (10/14/2008 5:11 a.m.)
      - A second proposal to the same woman?   Martina (10/14/2008 11:51 a.m.)
        
        That did not mean it was unheard of...   Moni (10/15/2008 11:33 a.m.)
        
        A mouse?   Robbin (10/14/2008 5:37 p.m.)
        
        Indeed a mouse   Martina (10/15/2008 1:04 p.m.)
        
        Different interpretations   Robbin (10/17/2008 2:13 a.m.)
        
        I agree.   nan duval (10/17/2008 9:20 p.m.)
        
        Great reading!   Robbin (10/17/2008 10:39 p.m.)
        
        This is why I love Jane Austen   Martina (10/18/2008 11:20 a.m.)
        
        I agree. (;D) nfm   Robbin (10/18/2008 11:31 a.m.)
        
        Emduring with dignity. Well said Robbin. NFM   Rachel G (10/17/2008 3:36 a.m.)
        
        Miserable Anne   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 3:47 p.m.)
        
        Modern sensibilities   Robbin (10/17/2008 2:37 a.m.)
        
        Agree and aside from this...   Moni (10/17/2008 3:25 a.m.)
        
        So many complexities—So right you are Moni   Robbin (10/17/2008 12:25 p.m.)
        
        Exactly so, Robbin...   Moni (10/20/2008 8:51 a.m.)
        
        Anne is already being...   Moni (10/16/2008 4:22 a.m.)
        
        You are severe upon Anne! ;-)   Line (10/15/2008 3:04 p.m.)
        
        I agree. (;D) nfm   Robbin (10/17/2008 1:04 a.m.)
        
        Second proposals   Rachel G (10/14/2008 12:47 p.m.)
      - In many ways I see him as blinded by love... Moni (10/14/2008 9:38 a.m.)
      - I agree with you, Rae Ann2 (10/14/2008 7:58 a.m.)
    - Sorry folks, months should read years! ;-) (nfm) Moni (10/14/2008 4:36 a.m.)
  - Not living up to his own standards Tom P2 (10/13/2008 5:43 p.m.)
    - Exactly! Rae (10/14/2008 4:17 a.m.)
      - Ermmm....   JulieW (10/14/2008 4:42 a.m.)
        
        Not to be 'forward'   Rae (10/14/2008 5:20 a.m.)
        
        I'm sorry...   JulieW (10/14/2008 6:05 a.m.)
        
        Anne v. Wentworth   Deborah Y (10/14/2008 8:58 a.m.)
        
        Cruel Wentworth?? (moved by moderator)   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 4:37 p.m.)
        
        With a few exceptions (moved by moderator)   JoAnn (10/15/2008 4:39 p.m.)
        
        Subconscious...   Moni (10/15/2008 8:16 a.m.)
        
        Cruel   Rae (10/15/2008 5:26 p.m.)
        
        Anne at the Cottage   JulieW (10/16/2008 4:33 a.m.)
        
        The behaving badly thing...   Moni (10/16/2008 4:17 a.m.)
        
        Captain Wentworth's behaviour   Line (10/16/2008 9:30 a.m.)
        
        My focus for the GR...   Moni (10/16/2008 10:40 a.m.)
        
        Probably   JulieW (10/14/2008 12:52 p.m.)
        
        The balance of power   Deborah Y (10/15/2008 9:37 a.m.)
        
        Yes, again as with Rae   JulieW (10/15/2008 10:03 a.m.)
        
        And yet...   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 10:18 a.m.)
        
        Could he suspect a normal tone   Robbin (10/15/2008 10:38 a.m.)
        
        Politeness Given the Depth of Emotion   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 11:48 a.m.)
        
        I don’t believe Anne is cold to Frederick   Robbin (10/17/2008 10:31 p.m.)
        
        Thank you - my views exactly : -) [nfm]   Rae (10/14/2008 12:20 p.m.)
        
        OK, hands up :-)   Rae (10/14/2008 7:15 a.m.)
        
        He may be experiencing something akin   JulieW (10/14/2008 8:12 a.m.)
        
        Powerful image...   Moni (10/14/2008 6:47 a.m.)
        
        It was up to him to initiate these things...   Moni (10/14/2008 5:53 a.m.)
Aching hearts Laraine (10/13/2008 12:11 p.m.)
- Oh! Oh! Got to jump in! Rae (10/13/2008 12:40 p.m.)
  - I agree with Laraine JulieW (10/13/2008 1:12 p.m.)
    - I am not persuaded yet... MarianneR (10/13/2008 3:17 p.m.)
      - Spoiler above NFM   Mia I. (10/13/2008 5:25 p.m.)
        
        It's ok   Cheryl (10/13/2008 6:12 p.m.)
        
        Oops, didn´t realise - sorry! *nfm*   MarianneR (10/14/2008 3:09 a.m.)
      - Shields up! IMO he was hiding behind a shell of aloofness... JanELT (10/13/2008 3:28 p.m.)
    - Hmmmm... Rae (10/13/2008 1:27 p.m.)
      - Look at it from his POV   Deborah Y (10/13/2008 5:48 p.m.)
        
        Lucky he didn't visit...   Moni (10/14/2008 3:49 a.m.)
        
        That morning visit   Rae (10/14/2008 4:36 a.m.)
        
        You make a good   Robbin (10/15/2008 9:59 a.m.)
        
        Do you think he didn't recognize her because he tried to avoid...   JanELT (10/14/2008 12:44 p.m.)
        
        I do not think he did not recognise her...   Rae (10/14/2008 1:14 p.m.)
        
        Maybe she just needs make-up. Oops cross thread fr Ramble :-) NFM   JanELT (10/14/2008 8:46 p.m.)
        
        Good points...   Becky K (10/14/2008 8:54 a.m.)
        
        Perfect and glorious at 29...   MarianneR (10/14/2008 4:11 a.m.)
        
        Consider this...   Moni (10/14/2008 5:11 a.m.)
        
        Coldness, resentment and pettiness.   Rachel G (10/13/2008 7:37 p.m.)
        
        Very good points closing paragraphs...   Moni (10/14/2008 4:05 a.m.)
        
        But again. . .   Deborah Y (10/13/2008 8:32 p.m.)
        
        And the first time that changed   CarolTS (10/13/2008 7:27 p.m.)
        
        Agree with everything, BUT   Martina (10/13/2008 8:43 p.m.)
        
        Staying at Kellynch   MarianneR (10/14/2008 3:36 a.m.)
        
        If it were truly awkward   Martina (10/14/2008 4:24 a.m.)
        
        I agree with you   MarianneR (10/14/2008 5:13 a.m.)
November of life Anna Ruby (10/13/2008 10:52 a.m.)
- Why is it unjust? CarolTS (10/13/2008 11:42 a.m.)
  - Unjust Anna Ruby (10/13/2008 2:44 p.m.)
I find the language appealing LeeAnne (10/13/2008 8:18 a.m.)
- Defending Wentworth Deborah Y (10/13/2008 9:54 a.m.)
  - Do Defend! LeeAnne (10/13/2008 10:11 a.m.)
    - I don't think it's Anne's POV Deborah Y (10/13/2008 10:48 a.m.)

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