I agree with Laraine

Quick Index Board Index Home FAQ Site Map

View thread | Previous message | Next message

I agree with Laraine Written by JulieW (10/13/2008 1:12 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Oh! Oh! Got to jump in!, penned by Rae

and actually this exhibition of cold politesse is evidence of some little measure of meanness or pettiness in his make up and IMO is what makes FW my least favourite of the JA men( I hesitate to use the word hero).

I understand it makes him human and a man with faults, but they are faults that have the capacity to wound deeply. And it is all done as a deliberate act on his part ; to act distantly and politely but coldly towards the woman he once loved. I think its all part of the strange introspection that characterises the people in this particular book,( or perhaps self obsession might be a better term), that no one among the Uppercross/Lyme crowd realises that he is the life and soul with everyone except Anne.

Two acts of kindness yes-the Crofts gig and the removal of young Walter,mitigate this a little but they don't atone for his typical behaviour towards Anne at this time,IMHO.

Previous message | Next message | Board index

Autumnal Persuasion, Week 2 Cheryl (10/13/2008 12:01 a.m.)

I find the language appealing LeeAnne (10/13/2008 8:18 a.m.)
- Defending Wentworth Deborah Y (10/13/2008 9:54 a.m.)
  - Do Defend! LeeAnne (10/13/2008 10:11 a.m.)
    - I don't think it's Anne's POV Deborah Y (10/13/2008 10:48 a.m.)
November of life Anna Ruby (10/13/2008 10:52 a.m.)
- Why is it unjust? CarolTS (10/13/2008 11:42 a.m.)
  - Unjust Anna Ruby (10/13/2008 2:44 p.m.)
Aching hearts Laraine (10/13/2008 12:11 p.m.)
- Oh! Oh! Got to jump in! Rae (10/13/2008 12:40 p.m.)
  - I agree with Laraine JulieW (10/13/2008 1:12 p.m.)
    - Hmmmm... Rae (10/13/2008 1:27 p.m.)
      - Look at it from his POV   Deborah Y (10/13/2008 5:48 p.m.)
        
        And the first time that changed   CarolTS (10/13/2008 7:27 p.m.)
        
        Agree with everything, BUT   Martina (10/13/2008 8:43 p.m.)
        
        Staying at Kellynch   MarianneR (10/14/2008 3:36 a.m.)
        
        If it were truly awkward   Martina (10/14/2008 4:24 a.m.)
        
        I agree with you   MarianneR (10/14/2008 5:13 a.m.)
        
        Coldness, resentment and pettiness.   Rachel G (10/13/2008 7:37 p.m.)
        
        But again. . .   Deborah Y (10/13/2008 8:32 p.m.)
        
        Very good points closing paragraphs...   Moni (10/14/2008 4:05 a.m.)
        
        Lucky he didn't visit...   Moni (10/14/2008 3:49 a.m.)
        
        Perfect and glorious at 29...   MarianneR (10/14/2008 4:11 a.m.)
        
        Consider this...   Moni (10/14/2008 5:11 a.m.)
        
        That morning visit   Rae (10/14/2008 4:36 a.m.)
        
        Good points...   Becky K (10/14/2008 8:54 a.m.)
        
        Do you think he didn't recognize her because he tried to avoid...   JanELT (10/14/2008 12:44 p.m.)
        
        I do not think he did not recognise her...   Rae (10/14/2008 1:14 p.m.)
        
        Maybe she just needs make-up. Oops cross thread fr Ramble :-) NFM   JanELT (10/14/2008 8:46 p.m.)
        
        You make a good   Robbin (10/15/2008 9:59 a.m.)
    - I am not persuaded yet... MarianneR (10/13/2008 3:17 p.m.)
      - Shields up! IMO he was hiding behind a shell of aloofness... JanELT (10/13/2008 3:28 p.m.)
      - Spoiler above NFM   Mia I. (10/13/2008 5:25 p.m.)
        
        It's ok   Cheryl (10/13/2008 6:12 p.m.)
        
        Oops, didn´t realise - sorry! *nfm*   MarianneR (10/14/2008 3:09 a.m.)
The chapter seven parts... Moni (10/13/2008 12:55 p.m.)
- Raffling himself off? Rae (10/13/2008 1:04 p.m.)
  - Not living up to his own standards Tom P2 (10/13/2008 5:43 p.m.)
    - Exactly! Rae (10/14/2008 4:17 a.m.)
      - Ermmm....   JulieW (10/14/2008 4:42 a.m.)
        
        Not to be 'forward'   Rae (10/14/2008 5:20 a.m.)
        
        It was up to him to initiate these things...   Moni (10/14/2008 5:53 a.m.)
        
        I'm sorry...   JulieW (10/14/2008 6:05 a.m.)
        
        Powerful image...   Moni (10/14/2008 6:47 a.m.)
        
        OK, hands up :-)   Rae (10/14/2008 7:15 a.m.)
        
        He may be experiencing something akin   JulieW (10/14/2008 8:12 a.m.)
        
        Anne v. Wentworth   Deborah Y (10/14/2008 8:58 a.m.)
        
        Thank you - my views exactly : -) [nfm]   Rae (10/14/2008 12:20 p.m.)
        
        Probably   JulieW (10/14/2008 12:52 p.m.)
        
        The balance of power   Deborah Y (10/15/2008 9:37 a.m.)
        
        Yes, again as with Rae   JulieW (10/15/2008 10:03 a.m.)
        
        And yet...   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 10:18 a.m.)
        
        Could he suspect a normal tone   Robbin (10/15/2008 10:38 a.m.)
        
        Politeness Given the Depth of Emotion   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 11:48 a.m.)
        
        I don’t believe Anne is cold to Frederick   Robbin (10/17/2008 10:31 p.m.)
        
        Subconscious...   Moni (10/15/2008 8:16 a.m.)
        
        Cruel   Rae (10/15/2008 5:26 p.m.)
        
        The behaving badly thing...   Moni (10/16/2008 4:17 a.m.)
        
        Captain Wentworth's behaviour   Line (10/16/2008 9:30 a.m.)
        
        My focus for the GR...   Moni (10/16/2008 10:40 a.m.)
        
        Anne at the Cottage   JulieW (10/16/2008 4:33 a.m.)
        
        Cruel Wentworth?? (moved by moderator)   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 4:37 p.m.)
        
        With a few exceptions (moved by moderator)   JoAnn (10/15/2008 4:39 p.m.)
  - I am not sure it sat well with... Moni (10/14/2008 4:29 a.m.)
    - Sorry folks, months should read years! ;-) (nfm) Moni (10/14/2008 4:36 a.m.)
    - I am not denying that he behaves badly... Rae (10/14/2008 5:11 a.m.)
      - I agree with you, Rae Ann2 (10/14/2008 7:58 a.m.)
      - In many ways I see him as blinded by love... Moni (10/14/2008 9:38 a.m.)
      - A second proposal to the same woman?   Martina (10/14/2008 11:51 a.m.)
        
        Second proposals   Rachel G (10/14/2008 12:47 p.m.)
        
        A mouse?   Robbin (10/14/2008 5:37 p.m.)
        
        Indeed a mouse   Martina (10/15/2008 1:04 p.m.)
        
        You are severe upon Anne! ;-)   Line (10/15/2008 3:04 p.m.)
        
        I agree. (;D) nfm   Robbin (10/17/2008 1:04 a.m.)
        
        Miserable Anne   Kathryn Ann (10/15/2008 3:47 p.m.)
        
        Anne is already being...   Moni (10/16/2008 4:22 a.m.)
        
        Modern sensibilities   Robbin (10/17/2008 2:37 a.m.)
        
        Agree and aside from this...   Moni (10/17/2008 3:25 a.m.)
        
        So many complexities—So right you are Moni   Robbin (10/17/2008 12:25 p.m.)
        
        Exactly so, Robbin...   Moni (10/20/2008 8:51 a.m.)
        
        Different interpretations   Robbin (10/17/2008 2:13 a.m.)
        
        Emduring with dignity. Well said Robbin. NFM   Rachel G (10/17/2008 3:36 a.m.)
        
        I agree.   nan duval (10/17/2008 9:20 p.m.)
        
        Great reading!   Robbin (10/17/2008 10:39 p.m.)
        
        This is why I love Jane Austen   Martina (10/18/2008 11:20 a.m.)
        
        I agree. (;D) nfm   Robbin (10/18/2008 11:31 a.m.)
        
        That did not mean it was unheard of...   Moni (10/15/2008 11:33 a.m.)
- Badly done, indeed. Off you go to detention, Wentworth! NFM JanELT (10/13/2008 3:36 p.m.)
- My impression nan duval (10/17/2008 8:57 p.m.)
Poignancy Cathy Allen (10/13/2008 2:36 p.m.)
- Autumn imagery... Mandy N (10/13/2008 3:10 p.m.)

Groupread is maintained by Myretta with WebBBS 3.21.

View thread | Previous message | Next message Board index

- Jane Austen | Republic of Pemberley -

Quick Index

Home

Site Map

JAInfo