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I agree - Charles is no Mr. Collins Written by Line (9/29/2005 7:57 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Why Charles is presented positively, penned by Kim in AK

He is not up to Captain Wentworth's standard, but like Col. Fitzwilliam in P&P, if our heroine *had* agreed to marry him, even her ex-suitor couldn't have heaped too much scorn on the match.

One of the things I like about JA is that she brought other worthwhile men into her heroine's lives, and made it quietly clear that under other circumstances the heroine(s) might have married one of these suitors.

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Parenting skills (or lack thereof) Barbara (9/26/2005 5:17 p.m.)

Great Thread, Great Discussion, Thanks (NFM) BarbaraB (9/29/2005 6:08 p.m.)
In defence of Charles Tracy W (9/26/2005 9:30 p.m.)
- Love your analysis of Charles! nfm Kalyn (9/27/2005 3:09 p.m.)
- Invisibility and the double standard... helena6 (9/27/2005 9:55 a.m.)
  - Agree on double standard - blame them both equally! ;-) (nfm) Line (9/28/2005 8:26 p.m.)
  - Sense of Urgency to meet CFW JoAnn Elizabeth (9/28/2005 9:33 a.m.)
    - Not in this part of the reading Barbara (9/28/2005 12:32 p.m.)
- Those invisible servants, again Delories (9/27/2005 4:19 a.m.)
  - The nursery maid debate KateL (9/27/2005 9:21 a.m.)
    - Why do we think little Charles in only three years old? Kalyn (9/27/2005 4:19 p.m.)
      - His parents were married less than four years Barbara (9/27/2005 6:28 p.m.)
        
        Thank you! nfm Kalyn (9/27/2005 9:20 p.m.)
- Anne's assessment? Barbara (9/26/2005 10:13 p.m.)
  - We may have to disagree Tracy W (9/27/2005 2:24 a.m.)
childrearing Regency style Margaret H (9/26/2005 6:04 p.m.)
- Actually, the Musgroves sound very modern to me! Annette J. (9/26/2005 6:23 p.m.)
  - Role Model for Physical Activity Pennie (9/30/2005 7:32 a.m.)
    - Yes! And now they give children podometers Kalyn (9/30/2005 4:52 p.m.)
  - It does when... Barbara (9/26/2005 6:37 p.m.)
    - Charles, his children, the times, and JA's language Kalyn (9/27/2005 3:40 p.m.)
      - JA and Mr. Bingley James S. (9/30/2005 11:14 a.m.)
      - Oh no!   Barbara (9/27/2005 6:24 p.m.)
        
        The truth from disagreeable or ridiculous characters   Line (9/28/2005 8:13 p.m.)
        
        Anne does not equal JA,   Jenny Allan (9/30/2005 7:46 p.m.)
        
        Oh, I don't think JA meant...   Line (10/1/2005 3:54 p.m.)
        
        Alterior Motives   Jenny Allan (10/3/2005 11:39 a.m.)
        
        sorry about Poole, but still feel JA's language supports CM   Kalyn (9/27/2005 9:50 p.m.)
        
        Reading and Charles Musgrove   helena6 (9/29/2005 4:57 p.m.)
        
        Bingley and Darcy and libraries   Kalyn (9/30/2005 4:24 p.m.)
        
        Let's not stray too far afield   Cheryl (9/30/2005 4:50 p.m.)
        
        sorry--it was in my earlier posts in this thread! nfm   Kalyn (9/30/2005 4:55 p.m.)
        
        Why Charles is presented positively   Kim in AK (9/29/2005 7:08 p.m.)
        
        Why marry Mary?   Lia (10/1/2005 10:11 p.m.)
        
        I think switching from one sister to another...   Line (10/2/2005 8:53 p.m.)
        
        Not to mention Mr. Collins, absurd as he is, switching from   Kalyn (10/3/2005 4:11 p.m.)
        
        We do know the interval   Barbara (10/2/2005 12:19 a.m.)
        
        Great points! nfm   Kalyn (9/30/2005 4:25 p.m.)
        
        I agree - Charles is no Mr. Collins   Line (9/29/2005 7:57 p.m.)
        
        Good Analyzation (NFM)   BarbaraB (9/29/2005 7:52 p.m.)
        
        He probably is typical   Barbara (9/28/2005 12:25 p.m.)
        
        John Dashwood lol - something for the shoppe?   Kalyn (9/28/2005 4:06 p.m.)
    - I wonder though if this was a major concern of people in Annette J. (9/26/2005 7:24 p.m.)
      - The point is...   Barbara (9/26/2005 8:15 p.m.)
        
        As Margaret 7 pointed out below, we don't really   Annette J. (9/27/2005 8:41 a.m.)
        
        Is he around all of the time?   Barbara (9/27/2005 10:15 a.m.)
        
        What I mean by "at home"   Margaret 7 (9/27/2005 6:24 p.m.)
        
        I agree. nfm   Kalyn (9/27/2005 9:55 p.m.)
        
        Sensible fellow?   Barbara (9/27/2005 6:41 p.m.)
        
        I don't think that Charles is all that much different   Annette J. (9/28/2005 4:47 a.m.)
        
        I agree--he's no hero (nfm)   Barbara (9/28/2005 12:36 p.m.)
        
        Too true! ;o) -nfm-   Maisy (9/26/2005 8:32 p.m.)
      - In JA's own family...   Maisy (9/26/2005 8:04 p.m.)
        
        Charles is unlike a modern father (long)   Margaret 7 (9/26/2005 10:20 p.m.)
        
        We live in a society that is so focused on children that   Annette J. (9/27/2005 5:20 a.m.)
        
        That's a good point, and easy to miss...   Delories (9/27/2005 4:23 a.m.)

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