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Twice recently Charlotte has been accused of... Written by Adrian (5/3/2010 12:32 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, Deceit: Charlotte vs Darcy, penned by Connie

..."toadying" or being an assistant toad. I have to disagree. I do not recall reading that Charlotte enthusiastically joined Mr. Collins in flattering Lady Catherine--not in the way Caroline constantly positioned herself as Darcy's faithful assistant.

True, Charlotte accompanies Mr. Collins to visit Lady Catherine; but do we know she joined him in toadying? She may very well have been there to mitigate, whenever possible, her husband's penchant to make himself look silly (as she did when insisting on introducing her father, sister, and friend Lizzy to Lady Catherine on their first arrival at Rosings).

People will think of Charlotte as they will, but I do not see textual evidence of toadying. Still, I admit I might have missed something.

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Charlotte, Spinsterhood and Society (Long) BarbaraB (4/27/2010 3:51 a.m.)

Very good analysis. As I posted below, in Emma we have AnnetteJ (4/27/2010 8:18 a.m.)
- Ideals vs Comfort Aaron (4/27/2010 1:55 p.m.)
  - without feeling [] blind, partial, prejudiced, absurd Stephanie (4/27/2010 4:19 p.m.)
    - the lottery vs Mr. Collins Aaron (4/27/2010 4:34 p.m.)
      - So glad that in the 21st century we have choices not available AnnetteJ (4/28/2010 8:05 a.m.)
    - But again... Line (4/27/2010 9:26 p.m.)
      - That reminds of what Lizzy says   Connie (4/27/2010 10:42 p.m.)
        
        Dangerous Liaison   Robbin (4/28/2010 10:49 p.m.)
        
        An early reference   Aaron (4/29/2010 1:36 a.m.)
        
        And if she learns that his flaws are worse than   kathleen (elder) (4/29/2010 6:02 a.m.)
        
        Can Someone Tell Me   Aaron (4/29/2010 1:04 p.m.)
        
        Chapter 22   kathleen (elder) (4/29/2010 1:28 p.m.)
        
        Dear katheeln(elder) and those who also...(long)   Silvia A (4/29/2010 5:27 p.m.)
        
        Your post is very well written :-)   kathleen (elder) (4/29/2010 9:19 p.m.)
        
        Thank you Silvia.   Reeba (4/30/2010 9:32 a.m.)
        
        Are you sure that Elizabeth was the only   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 9:58 a.m.)
        
        Nothing is sure,   Reeba (4/30/2010 1:40 p.m.)
        
        I agree that there may be some other   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 1:58 p.m.)
        
        But all those...   Reeba (4/30/2010 2:39 p.m.)
        
        PS   Reeba (4/30/2010 2:42 p.m.)
        
        Exactly!   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 6:55 p.m.)
        
        Mrs Bennet produced Lizzy ;-) nfm   Reeba (4/30/2010 7:14 p.m.)
        
        And Mary & Kitty & Lydia nfm   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 9:02 p.m.)
        
        Deceit & Improving Mr. Collins   Robbin (5/1/2010 11:27 p.m.)
        
        About "not deceiving or hurting anyone".....   Silvia A (5/2/2010 10:40 a.m.)
        
        And, if "not deceiving or hurting anyone" ...   gianni (5/2/2010 1:28 p.m.)
        
        "Lies" that Darcy did not use in his proposal! nfm   Stephanie (5/2/2010 6:45 p.m.)
        
        And Darcy was so successful? (nfm)   Adrian (5/2/2010 6:58 p.m.)
        
        she was at first sorry for the pain he was to receive   Stephanie (5/3/2010 3:44 p.m.)
        
        Are you then justifying what Charlotte did...   Adrian (5/3/2010 8:32 p.m.)
        
        Deceiving Mr Collins   Bridget D (5/3/2010 2:49 a.m.)
        
        Deceit: Charlotte vs Darcy   Connie (5/3/2010 10:51 a.m.)
        
        Twice recently Charlotte has been accused of...   Adrian (5/3/2010 12:32 p.m.)
        
        charlotte   Bridget D (5/3/2010 1:11 p.m.)
        
        Self-interest is not toadying   Adrian (5/3/2010 8:22 p.m.)
        
        toadying   Bridget D (5/4/2010 7:14 a.m.)
        
        Mr. Collins's toadying, rationally softened   Connie (5/3/2010 3:53 p.m.)
        
        Exactly   Line (5/3/2010 4:58 p.m.)
        
        Sense, lies & Insensibility   Robbin (5/2/2010 5:31 p.m.)
        
        Yes, that is Charlotte's view   Connie (4/29/2010 12:07 p.m.)
        
        Charlotte is Wrongheaded   Robbin (4/29/2010 12:32 p.m.)
        
        And yet, we are unmoved ...   gianni (4/29/2010 9:40 p.m.)
        
        Life as a Nun   Aaron (4/30/2010 3:21 a.m.)
        
        I can (and do) doubt that Mr Collins loves   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 6:21 a.m.)
        
        Agree that...   BarbaraB (4/30/2010 4:59 p.m.)
        
        mr and Mrs Collins   Bridget D (5/1/2010 7:15 a.m.)
        
        He's not physically repulsive   Graciela (5/1/2010 10:42 a.m.)
        
        I agree   Line (5/1/2010 10:59 a.m.)
        
        Mr Collins   Bridget D (5/2/2010 1:20 a.m.)
        
        LOL: I Say Eeeek too but...   BarbaraB (4/30/2010 2:47 p.m.)
      - Don't they pave roads and buy schools computers? :) nfm Stephanie (4/27/2010 11:47 p.m.)
        
        True! :-) (nfm) Line (4/28/2010 9:07 a.m.)
If Charlotte had married a sensible man... Connie (4/27/2010 10:45 a.m.)
- Although few in Austen's books ever seem to long for AnnetteJ (4/27/2010 11:11 a.m.)
  - Charlotte will be a great mom! Heather Leigh (4/27/2010 4:13 p.m.)
    - Charlotte and Children Bridget D (5/1/2010 7:08 a.m.)
      - mothers in Austen Heather Leigh (5/3/2010 6:49 p.m.)
emergence of *marriage* Lini (4/27/2010 1:14 p.m.)
- Very good points! nfm AnnetteJ (4/27/2010 2:46 p.m.)
21 st century points of view Benedicte (4/29/2010 5:27 p.m.)
- An ideal that JA wanted to promote Line (4/30/2010 9:20 a.m.)
  - Absolutely agree. JA was not Marianne Dashwood. Connie (4/30/2010 3:46 p.m.)

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