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I can (and do) doubt that Mr Collins loves Written by kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 6:21 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, Life as a Nun, penned by Aaron

Charlotte. I see no evidence that Mr Collins loved Charlotte when he proposed -- he proposed because he needed to return to Kent an engaged man (per Lady Catherine's ~~order~~ instruction). Charlotte appeared to him to be ready to accept such a proposal. No love on either side. As for Mr Collins growing to love Charlotte, I don't see that either, though I do expect him to have a fondness for he that he thinks is love.

Charlotte will be sharing her life with a pompous fool, a man whose opinions she surely cannot respect. And I see nothing in the novel to indicate that she was pining for love or the physical part of marriage. Marriage was her object, not the husband.

As for assuming that life as a spinster is so lonely that a woman should be willing to ~~sell herself~~ trade that life for such a husband, well, I've said it all before and there's nothing new to add.

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Charlotte, Spinsterhood and Society (Long) BarbaraB (4/27/2010 3:51 a.m.)

21 st century points of view Benedicte (4/29/2010 5:27 p.m.)
- An ideal that JA wanted to promote Line (4/30/2010 9:20 a.m.)
  - Absolutely agree. JA was not Marianne Dashwood. Connie (4/30/2010 3:46 p.m.)
emergence of *marriage* Lini (4/27/2010 1:14 p.m.)
- Very good points! nfm AnnetteJ (4/27/2010 2:46 p.m.)
If Charlotte had married a sensible man... Connie (4/27/2010 10:45 a.m.)
- Although few in Austen's books ever seem to long for AnnetteJ (4/27/2010 11:11 a.m.)
  - Charlotte will be a great mom! Heather Leigh (4/27/2010 4:13 p.m.)
    - Charlotte and Children Bridget D (5/1/2010 7:08 a.m.)
      - mothers in Austen Heather Leigh (5/3/2010 6:49 p.m.)
Very good analysis. As I posted below, in Emma we have AnnetteJ (4/27/2010 8:18 a.m.)
- Ideals vs Comfort Aaron (4/27/2010 1:55 p.m.)
  - without feeling [] blind, partial, prejudiced, absurd Stephanie (4/27/2010 4:19 p.m.)
    - But again... Line (4/27/2010 9:26 p.m.)
      - Don't they pave roads and buy schools computers? :) nfm Stephanie (4/27/2010 11:47 p.m.)
        
        True! :-) (nfm) Line (4/28/2010 9:07 a.m.)
      - That reminds of what Lizzy says   Connie (4/27/2010 10:42 p.m.)
        
        Dangerous Liaison   Robbin (4/28/2010 10:49 p.m.)
        
        LOL: I Say Eeeek too but...   BarbaraB (4/30/2010 2:47 p.m.)
        
        An early reference   Aaron (4/29/2010 1:36 a.m.)
        
        And yet, we are unmoved ...   gianni (4/29/2010 9:40 p.m.)
        
        Life as a Nun   Aaron (4/30/2010 3:21 a.m.)
        
        I can (and do) doubt that Mr Collins loves   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 6:21 a.m.)
        
        Agree that...   BarbaraB (4/30/2010 4:59 p.m.)
        
        mr and Mrs Collins   Bridget D (5/1/2010 7:15 a.m.)
        
        He's not physically repulsive   Graciela (5/1/2010 10:42 a.m.)
        
        Mr Collins   Bridget D (5/2/2010 1:20 a.m.)
        
        I agree   Line (5/1/2010 10:59 a.m.)
        
        Charlotte is Wrongheaded   Robbin (4/29/2010 12:32 p.m.)
        
        Yes, that is Charlotte's view   Connie (4/29/2010 12:07 p.m.)
        
        And if she learns that his flaws are worse than   kathleen (elder) (4/29/2010 6:02 a.m.)
        
        Can Someone Tell Me   Aaron (4/29/2010 1:04 p.m.)
        
        Chapter 22   kathleen (elder) (4/29/2010 1:28 p.m.)
        
        Dear katheeln(elder) and those who also...(long)   Silvia A (4/29/2010 5:27 p.m.)
        
        Deceit & Improving Mr. Collins   Robbin (5/1/2010 11:27 p.m.)
        
        About "not deceiving or hurting anyone".....   Silvia A (5/2/2010 10:40 a.m.)
        
        Sense, lies & Insensibility   Robbin (5/2/2010 5:31 p.m.)
        
        And, if "not deceiving or hurting anyone" ...   gianni (5/2/2010 1:28 p.m.)
        
        Deceit: Charlotte vs Darcy   Connie (5/3/2010 10:51 a.m.)
        
        Twice recently Charlotte has been accused of...   Adrian (5/3/2010 12:32 p.m.)
        
        Mr. Collins's toadying, rationally softened   Connie (5/3/2010 3:53 p.m.)
        
        Exactly   Line (5/3/2010 4:58 p.m.)
        
        charlotte   Bridget D (5/3/2010 1:11 p.m.)
        
        Self-interest is not toadying   Adrian (5/3/2010 8:22 p.m.)
        
        toadying   Bridget D (5/4/2010 7:14 a.m.)
        
        Deceiving Mr Collins   Bridget D (5/3/2010 2:49 a.m.)
        
        "Lies" that Darcy did not use in his proposal! nfm   Stephanie (5/2/2010 6:45 p.m.)
        
        And Darcy was so successful? (nfm)   Adrian (5/2/2010 6:58 p.m.)
        
        she was at first sorry for the pain he was to receive   Stephanie (5/3/2010 3:44 p.m.)
        
        Are you then justifying what Charlotte did...   Adrian (5/3/2010 8:32 p.m.)
        
        Thank you Silvia.   Reeba (4/30/2010 9:32 a.m.)
        
        Are you sure that Elizabeth was the only   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 9:58 a.m.)
        
        Nothing is sure,   Reeba (4/30/2010 1:40 p.m.)
        
        I agree that there may be some other   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 1:58 p.m.)
        
        But all those...   Reeba (4/30/2010 2:39 p.m.)
        
        PS   Reeba (4/30/2010 2:42 p.m.)
        
        Exactly!   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 6:55 p.m.)
        
        Mrs Bennet produced Lizzy ;-) nfm   Reeba (4/30/2010 7:14 p.m.)
        
        And Mary & Kitty & Lydia nfm   kathleen (elder) (4/30/2010 9:02 p.m.)
        
        Your post is very well written :-)   kathleen (elder) (4/29/2010 9:19 p.m.)
    - the lottery vs Mr. Collins Aaron (4/27/2010 4:34 p.m.)
      - So glad that in the 21st century we have choices not available AnnetteJ (4/28/2010 8:05 a.m.)

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