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Thanks Adrian! (:D) nfm
Written by Robbin
(4/21/2010 7:28 p.m.)
in consequence of the missive,
IIRC A living is a life tenure
, penned by Adrian
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Elizabeth "shooting from the hip" over Charlotte..
jeffrey
(
4/19/2010 1:08 p.m.
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Engaged to Mr. Collins! my dear Charlotte, impossible!
Stephanie
(
4/19/2010 3:50 p.m.
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There is a great essay entitled "Sleeping with Mr Collins&qu
AnnetteJ
(
4/19/2010 4:19 p.m.
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Eeeyew...perish the mental image of THAT! (NFM)
jeffrey
(
4/19/2010 4:35 p.m.
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similarities between Sir William and Mr. Collins
Carol
(
4/26/2010 3:44 p.m.
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Never thought of that before. Thanks. nfm
BarbaraB
(
4/27/2010 2:09 p.m.
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Similarities & Differences
Robbin
(
4/27/2010 6:51 p.m.
)
Great point
OlgaI
(
4/21/2010 4:40 a.m.
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My image of Mr Collins is based entirely on
kathleen (elder)
(
4/21/2010 7:09 p.m.
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I was talking of another take but
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 4:20 a.m.
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I agree that Charlotte can probably
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 6:22 a.m.
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Charlotte's future
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 7:38 a.m.
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From near-certain misery to...
gianni
(
4/22/2010 9:37 a.m.
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Living w/ her family is near-certain misery?
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 10:12 a.m.
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Because she is not a child any more
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 11:21 a.m.
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So JA should have married?
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 11:34 a.m.
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Yes if she would have liked
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 11:52 a.m.
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So, do you believe that JA chose
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 12:11 p.m.
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Don't you please use JA
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 12:19 p.m.
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I do NOT judge her by myself :-)
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 12:21 p.m.
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Exactly!
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 12:23 p.m.
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My five cents
Nina RG
(
4/22/2010 12:03 p.m.
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Obviously Charlotte would rather marry than not
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 12:06 p.m.
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Happiness in marriage is entirely a matter of chance
Nina RG
(
4/22/2010 12:12 p.m.
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LOL -- according to the unmarried Charlotte, yes! nfm
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 12:22 p.m.
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It would have been interesting
Karen G
(
4/22/2010 1:10 p.m.
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Perfect for Each Other
Robbin
(
4/23/2010 1:29 p.m.
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Interesting comparison Charlotte to Mr. Bennet
Karen G
(
4/23/2010 1:45 p.m.
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An Exemption
Robbin
(
4/23/2010 2:02 p.m.
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I think this is a modern, Western attitude
Connie
(
4/22/2010 12:26 p.m.
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I don't think so
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 2:21 p.m.
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I agree
Line
(
4/22/2010 9:50 a.m.
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Security and happiness...
Connie
(
4/22/2010 10:18 a.m.
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Unintelligent by nature or nurture?
Adrian
(
4/22/2010 12:59 p.m.
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The terms of the entail are
kathleen (elder)
(
4/22/2010 2:11 p.m.
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Elizabeth, in an off-handed way, showing concern for..
jeffrey
(
4/19/2010 4:28 p.m.
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Her initial reaction
CarolTS
(
4/19/2010 4:43 p.m.
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Dissapointment and age
B. Michelle
(
4/19/2010 6:50 p.m.
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Not quite the same boat
CarolTS
(
4/19/2010 10:08 p.m.
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Do we drop our friends because they do something
AnnetteJ
(
4/20/2010 8:27 a.m.
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Lizzy's loss of closeness to Charlotte...
Adrian
(
4/20/2010 12:35 p.m.
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Is that because of whom Charlotte married or Lizzy's view
AnnetteJ
(
4/20/2010 12:58 p.m.
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How about love, marriage hopes for Lizzy? nfm
Connie
(
4/20/2010 2:40 p.m.
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Not sure why that would be a problem. nfm
AnnetteJ
(
4/20/2010 4:26 p.m.
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Well, if you were Lizzy...
Connie
(
4/20/2010 4:47 p.m.
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sensible, intelligent young woman [] readily joined by Jane
Stephanie
(
4/20/2010 9:00 p.m.
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I agree with that view. Why leave a friendship of long
AnnetteJ
(
4/21/2010 8:18 a.m.
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Too early in the AM: "Any danger of that" nfm
AnnetteJ
(
4/21/2010 8:20 a.m.
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nor could Elizabeth persuade [Jane] to consider it as improbable
Stephanie
(
4/21/2010 11:35 a.m.
)
How do we know that Mr Collins is not
kathleen (elder)
(
4/21/2010 7:21 p.m.
)
I think "romanticized" is the wrong adj. for Jane.
Connie
(
4/21/2010 10:51 a.m.
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I'm not so sure
Nancy Ann
(
4/24/2010 11:41 a.m.
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I did not mean to say that advice was the only reason...
Connie
(
4/24/2010 3:40 p.m.
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I still hope that Lizzy
Nancy Ann
(
4/25/2010 9:43 a.m.
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I imagine that if Lizzy can be civil to Darcy...
Adrian
(
4/25/2010 9:09 p.m.
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Never really knew Charlotte
Barbara
(
4/20/2010 12:28 p.m.
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That Lizzy shoul dbe shocked at Charlotte's...
Adrian
(
4/20/2010 12:45 p.m.
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Missing all the signs
Barbara
(
4/20/2010 12:59 p.m.
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And I would agree with you...
Adrian
(
4/20/2010 1:04 p.m.
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Maybe Lizzy isn't as good a judge of character as she thinks-nfm
LisaS
(
4/20/2010 6:53 p.m.
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How often has she been wrong?
Kathi
(
4/20/2010 9:11 p.m.
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Not taking the signs seriously
Kathi
(
4/20/2010 7:55 p.m.
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Consider that...
gianni
(
4/19/2010 8:01 p.m.
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Austen believed in marrying one's equal.
Connie
(
4/19/2010 8:50 p.m.
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the business of love-making relieved them
Stephanie
(
4/19/2010 9:39 p.m.
)
Ok, so I haven't yet read...
gianni
(
4/19/2010 10:53 p.m.
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I think the romantic ideals she criticizes in S&S...
Connie
(
4/20/2010 10:49 a.m.
)
I have an issue with just one of the statements here.....
jeffrey
(
4/20/2010 12:33 p.m.
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I agree Jeffrey - Charlotte is no dummy and she could
AnnetteJ
(
4/20/2010 12:54 p.m.
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I fancy she was wanted about the mince-pies.
Stephanie
(
4/20/2010 2:14 p.m.
)
Charlotte: I am not romantic, you know
OlgaI
(
4/21/2010 4:24 a.m.
)
LOL!
Cheryl
(
4/21/2010 10:57 a.m.
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You're welcome :)
OlgaI
(
4/21/2010 2:43 p.m.
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You know, ...
gianni
(
4/21/2010 11:21 p.m.
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plus Jane
OlgaI
(
4/22/2010 7:51 a.m.
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The eternal question
Line
(
4/22/2010 9:36 a.m.
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Uneasy about their friendship?
Line
(
4/22/2010 9:45 a.m.
)
I've never been bothered by that
Karen G
(
4/22/2010 10:54 a.m.
)
Stupid or just socially immature and ignorant? (nfm)
jeffrey
(
4/21/2010 11:59 a.m.
)
Unfortunately both :)
OlgaI
(
4/21/2010 2:26 p.m.
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I think Charlotte would do her duty by Mr. Collins
Connie
(
4/20/2010 2:26 p.m.
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Charlotte's feelings for Mr. Collins
Anne-Marie
(
4/20/2010 2:36 p.m.
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Valid or invalid objections to a marriage partner
Barbara
(
4/20/2010 12:43 p.m.
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We need to distinguish
Adrian
(
4/20/2010 12:53 p.m.
)
My point
Barbara
(
4/20/2010 1:05 p.m.
)
A very good concise point, Adrian...
jeffrey
(
4/20/2010 1:15 p.m.
)
Please add nfm if there is no further message :-) (nfm)
Line
(
4/20/2010 2:53 p.m.
)
Thanks, I forgot (senior moment) (NFM)
jeffrey
(
4/21/2010 8:23 a.m.
)
Well, no...
gianni
(
4/20/2010 1:21 p.m.
)
Let's stay on topic
Cheryl
(
4/20/2010 2:00 p.m.
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JA's own feelings about love and marriage
Line
(
4/20/2010 10:02 a.m.
)
Mr Collins, Charlotte, and Lizzy
Mary Anne
(
4/20/2010 8:17 a.m.
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Elegant females refusing
Barbara
(
4/20/2010 12:08 p.m.
)
Just because you refused him did you think....
Silvia A
(
4/20/2010 8:26 p.m.
)
marriage had always been her object;
Stephanie
(
4/20/2010 8:53 p.m.
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Precisely what's horrid about it
Mary Anne
(
4/21/2010 8:35 a.m.
)
Charlotte's margarita!
Kathryn Ann
(
4/23/2010 10:54 a.m.
)
I agree - a block or defense mechanism
Karen G
(
4/22/2010 1:44 p.m.
)
Apologies for introducing this topic ahead of schedule..
jeffrey
(
4/20/2010 1:33 p.m.
)
We're allowed to talk about all of ch. 13-23
CarolTS
(
4/20/2010 2:32 p.m.
)
Who moderates so I can respond accordingly?
jeffrey
(
4/20/2010 5:25 p.m.
)
Schedule
Cheryl
(
4/20/2010 6:52 p.m.
)
Put the Chapters on Your Calendar
Lenora
(
4/22/2010 5:48 p.m.
)
Charlotte, no guiding hand for Mr Collins, but for their children
Benedicte
(
4/21/2010 5:55 a.m.
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everything was settled between them to the satisfaction of both
Stephanie
(
4/21/2010 11:24 a.m.
)
But he's not always going to be under
CarolTS
(
4/21/2010 12:10 p.m.
)
Escape (perhaps) is not his plan
Robbin
(
4/21/2010 4:11 p.m.
)
IIRC A living is a life tenure
Adrian
(
4/21/2010 6:03 p.m.
)
Thanks Adrian! (:D) nfm
Robbin
(
4/21/2010 7:28 p.m.
)
The plight of unmarried women...
Benedicte
(
4/22/2010 2:52 p.m.
)
Charlotte vs Lizzy
Connie
(
4/22/2010 4:21 p.m.
)
Charlotte's financial situation
Line
(
4/22/2010 5:48 p.m.
)
Interesting take on it.
Connie
(
4/22/2010 6:02 p.m.
)
Charlotte marries for security
Aaron
(
4/23/2010 4:04 p.m.
)
I agree with your post as far as it goes.
Connie
(
4/23/2010 5:25 p.m.
)
Women had to marry?
kathleen (elder)
(
4/23/2010 8:06 p.m.
)
turning down her own engagement
Aaron
(
4/27/2010 1:48 a.m.
)
Spot On!
Lenora
(
4/27/2010 7:54 a.m.
)
probably a very big family...
Benedicte
(
4/22/2010 6:19 p.m.
)
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