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I agree with Robbin's interpretation. Written by Connie (4/20/2010 11:18 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, Some respect for his generosity; parallel with Mr Willoughby, penned by Tom P2

From other things Mr. Collins says, he is shown to be insincere (my focus this GR). He says what he believes is "customary" or will help his suit, not what he really thinks or feels. For example: And now nothing remains for me but to assure you in the most animated language of the violence of my affection (Ch. 19). It's like he's counting off on his fingers(as he does almost literally with his general reasons for marrying) the items he believes a man is expected to put forward.

His refusal to accept Lizzy's refusal on its face value, shows how certain he was he would be accepted. I think he takes advantage of the fact that the Bennet daughters are in a dire situation (5 of them without fortune!).

Why doesn't he turn to one of the younger girls when Lizzy refuses him? His mixture of pride and low self-confidence. He is affronted by Lizzy. He also does not want to risk a second refusal, and Charlotte takes pains to "show more affection than she feels" to encourage him to propose to her. He knows he looks ridiculous to all the Bennet daughters now. But he can still save face and come back to Hunsford an engaged man.

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Mr. Collins Cheryl (4/18/2010 11:47 p.m.)

Servility and Self-Importance KatharineW (4/20/2010 4:41 p.m.)
Cheryl, I was going nan duval (4/19/2010 8:58 p.m.)
Some respect for his generosity; parallel with Mr Willoughby Tom P2 (4/19/2010 7:19 p.m.)
- I agree with Robbin's interpretation. Connie (4/20/2010 11:18 a.m.)
  - And he follows that statement speaking about Elizabeth's dowry Graciela (4/20/2010 3:23 p.m.)
    - How much more violence do you want?? CarolTS (4/20/2010 7:18 p.m.)
- I think he deserves some credit Barbara (4/19/2010 9:46 p.m.)
  - I posted something similiar below that he offered marriage AnnetteJ (4/20/2010 8:35 a.m.)
  - if encouraged to read and improve himself by such an example Stephanie (4/19/2010 10:19 p.m.)
Mr Bennet and Mr Collins Sr. Cheryl (4/19/2010 10:30 a.m.)
- Being related CarolTS (4/19/2010 12:53 p.m.)
  - a case of some delicacy, Stephanie (4/19/2010 2:38 p.m.)
Yes BarbaraB (4/19/2010 10:23 a.m.)
Yes, be merciful with Mr. Collins because.... jeffrey (4/19/2010 9:57 a.m.)
- He is only 25, actually nfm Kathleen Glancy (4/19/2010 10:09 a.m.)
  - So, will Mr. Collins improve with maturity or not? jeffrey (4/19/2010 12:18 p.m.)
    - Which is P&P4, Jeffrey? I am thinking that the first AnnetteJ (4/19/2010 12:57 p.m.)
      - Pemberley numbering system Line (4/20/2010 9:20 a.m.)
      - But Mr. Collins in there CarolTS (4/19/2010 1:00 p.m.)
Feeling sorry for Mr. Collins Line (4/19/2010 8:33 a.m.)
- earnest endeavour to demean myself with grateful respect Stephanie (4/19/2010 11:02 a.m.)
  - Further Info BarbaraB (4/19/2010 4:06 p.m.)
    - failed to contradict as a most scandalous falsehood Stephanie (4/19/2010 9:55 p.m.)
    - Two of those strokes of good fortune may be linked Tom P2 (4/19/2010 6:37 p.m.)
    - Wow - interesting statistics! CarolTS (4/19/2010 4:41 p.m.)
      - He's fortunate that Mr. Bennet has no sons Graciela (4/19/2010 6:15 p.m.)
  - Good. Connie (4/19/2010 12:53 p.m.)
- I too noticed that passage for probably the first time in my AnnetteJ (4/19/2010 8:59 a.m.)
  - Mr Collins at school Kathleen Glancy (4/19/2010 10:05 a.m.)
  - Mr. Collins' behavior Anne-Marie (4/19/2010 9:57 a.m.)

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