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Yes Written by BarbaraB (4/19/2010 10:23 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, Mr. Collins, penned by Cheryl

The first time I read P&P, this passage stood out so much for me that I think I felt too sorry for him. It overly influenced me in assessing his overall character. I mean, I could still see out 'ick' he turned out but still felt overly sorry for the man he came to be, I think. Even this time around I felt a pang for the boy and young man who had to suffer such a father, but I am now able to balance this out with the last part of your quote:

The subjection in which his father had brought him up had given him originally great humility of manner; but it was now a good deal counteracted by the self-conceit of a weak head, living in retirement, and the consequential feelings of early and unexpected prosperity. (ch. 15)

But, yes, poor guy, particularly because he is so entirely clueless.

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Mr. Collins Cheryl (4/18/2010 11:47 p.m.)

Servility and Self-Importance KatharineW (4/20/2010 4:41 p.m.)
Cheryl, I was going nan duval (4/19/2010 8:58 p.m.)
Some respect for his generosity; parallel with Mr Willoughby Tom P2 (4/19/2010 7:19 p.m.)
- I agree with Robbin's interpretation. Connie (4/20/2010 11:18 a.m.)
  - And he follows that statement speaking about Elizabeth's dowry Graciela (4/20/2010 3:23 p.m.)
    - How much more violence do you want?? CarolTS (4/20/2010 7:18 p.m.)
- I think he deserves some credit Barbara (4/19/2010 9:46 p.m.)
  - I posted something similiar below that he offered marriage AnnetteJ (4/20/2010 8:35 a.m.)
  - if encouraged to read and improve himself by such an example Stephanie (4/19/2010 10:19 p.m.)
Mr Bennet and Mr Collins Sr. Cheryl (4/19/2010 10:30 a.m.)
- Being related CarolTS (4/19/2010 12:53 p.m.)
  - a case of some delicacy, Stephanie (4/19/2010 2:38 p.m.)
Yes BarbaraB (4/19/2010 10:23 a.m.)
Yes, be merciful with Mr. Collins because.... jeffrey (4/19/2010 9:57 a.m.)
- He is only 25, actually nfm Kathleen Glancy (4/19/2010 10:09 a.m.)
  - So, will Mr. Collins improve with maturity or not? jeffrey (4/19/2010 12:18 p.m.)
    - Which is P&P4, Jeffrey? I am thinking that the first AnnetteJ (4/19/2010 12:57 p.m.)
      - Pemberley numbering system Line (4/20/2010 9:20 a.m.)
      - But Mr. Collins in there CarolTS (4/19/2010 1:00 p.m.)
Feeling sorry for Mr. Collins Line (4/19/2010 8:33 a.m.)
- earnest endeavour to demean myself with grateful respect Stephanie (4/19/2010 11:02 a.m.)
  - Further Info BarbaraB (4/19/2010 4:06 p.m.)
    - failed to contradict as a most scandalous falsehood Stephanie (4/19/2010 9:55 p.m.)
    - Two of those strokes of good fortune may be linked Tom P2 (4/19/2010 6:37 p.m.)
    - Wow - interesting statistics! CarolTS (4/19/2010 4:41 p.m.)
      - He's fortunate that Mr. Bennet has no sons Graciela (4/19/2010 6:15 p.m.)
  - Good. Connie (4/19/2010 12:53 p.m.)
- I too noticed that passage for probably the first time in my AnnetteJ (4/19/2010 8:59 a.m.)
  - Mr Collins at school Kathleen Glancy (4/19/2010 10:05 a.m.)
  - Mr. Collins' behavior Anne-Marie (4/19/2010 9:57 a.m.)

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