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Yes Written by Elbč (4/16/2010 9:22 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, (Altruism = good manners) vs. Darcy, penned by Akaruihi

I think altruism is the glue which keeps a society together. Without rules of civility and the occasional self-sacrifice there would be chaos and we would tear one another to bits. Ofcourse altruism works best when all members of the group acts altruistically, which is why uncivil behaviour (like that of Darcy's) is frowned upon as it threatens the network of reciprocal civility within a group. Darcy is being selfish at this point and he deserves the dislike of the people present. If self-preservation and gratification is to be a better virtue than self-sacrifice, then Darcy has done no wrong, but I consider selfishness a vice. Whether he always is selfish in every aspect, I cannot yet tell.

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Slighting Lizzy Cheryl (4/11/2010 10:51 p.m.)

Goaded by Miss Bingley to go to the ball? Benedicte (4/14/2010 1:55 p.m.)
- His character was decided. Stephanie (4/14/2010 3:02 p.m.)
- But none of that excuses the insult kathleen (elder) (4/14/2010 2:26 p.m.)
A couple of years ago, nan duval (4/12/2010 5:50 p.m.)
Darcy and the Crankiness Factor Lenora (4/12/2010 1:52 p.m.)
- All this use of the word "cranky"... Cheryl (4/13/2010 10:55 a.m.)
  - LOL! :-D Nina RG (4/13/2010 12:41 p.m.)
  - Oh, Cheryl.... Elizabeth K (4/13/2010 11:38 a.m.)
  - nothing to do but [] go to sleep. nfm Stephanie (4/13/2010 11:03 a.m.)
- Darcy -."I am in no humour AT PRESENT" Akaruihi (4/13/2010 4:46 a.m.)
  - Doesn't matter about 'at present' BarbaraB (4/13/2010 11:33 a.m.)
  - Yes, because he was in a situation... Line (4/13/2010 9:44 a.m.)
    - but Darcy, he was pressed 3 times by Bingley to answer Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:31 a.m.)
- But why is Darcy cranky? Kathi (4/12/2010 7:37 p.m.)
  - to give consequence to young ladies who are slighted by other men Stephanie (4/12/2010 8:56 p.m.)
    - Bored, yet he danced a bit.l Akaruihi (4/14/2010 12:13 a.m.)
      - Hah -- doesn't take much courage/bravery   kathleen (elder) (4/14/2010 7:46 a.m.)
        
        Why is yes the only possible answer?   Akaruihi (4/14/2010 11:38 p.m.)
        
        If you go to church, then you should   kathleen (elder) (4/15/2010 7:18 a.m.)
        
        Socializing is the purpose...   Tina (4/15/2010 1:03 a.m.)
    - It's true, isn't it? Line (4/13/2010 9:34 a.m.)
    - Makes me think of the ball scene in Emma Elbč (4/13/2010 5:57 a.m.)
  - I don't believe Darcy was forced to attend Christopher (4/12/2010 8:08 p.m.)
    - I've always wondered... Andrea Gayle (4/13/2010 2:28 p.m.)
      - Darcy's manner LisaS (4/13/2010 2:51 p.m.)
- Had not been introduced... Karen 2L (4/12/2010 7:33 p.m.)
- Seems like a "two-fer" :-) kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 2:41 p.m.)
  - Who“s prejudiced? Who“s the victim of prejudice? Akaruihi (4/14/2010 5:02 a.m.)
  - And so you like this man's sisters too, do you? Stephanie (4/12/2010 2:58 p.m.)
    - Setting up the weakness Kathryn Ann (4/13/2010 8:46 a.m.)
Darcy was continually giving offence Stephanie (4/12/2010 12:37 p.m.)
- if continual offence, why did Bingley take him there? Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:47 a.m.)
  - One to a customer Myretta (4/14/2010 10:50 a.m.)
  - What a contrast between him and his friend! Stephanie (4/14/2010 10:32 a.m.)
- Giving a second opinion to Bingley Karen G (4/13/2010 1:15 p.m.)
- Actually, it was "two dances each" Graciela (4/12/2010 2:43 p.m.)
  - "I must have you dance." Stephanie (4/12/2010 3:02 p.m.)
    - Look at this post from the L&T board. Graciela (4/12/2010 11:01 p.m.)
  - That we know of! CarolTS (4/12/2010 2:50 p.m.)
Beg to differ with Connie's assertion... Benedicte (4/12/2010 12:03 p.m.)
- It was not possible influence on him Connie (4/12/2010 12:13 p.m.)
But I think the ladies like Darcy--- Akaruihi (4/12/2010 10:24 a.m.)
- They don't know him well enough to like him kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 10:59 a.m.)
- Elizabeth and Miss Lucas LIKE Darcy... Akaruihi (4/12/2010 10:56 a.m.)
  - Elizabeth is definitely not competing, kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 11:01 a.m.)
    - yes, thats why i said "until now" Akaruihi (4/12/2010 11:34 a.m.)
      - "Unil now..."   Cheryl (4/12/2010 11:57 a.m.)
        
        Ever think.....   greg (4/12/2010 12:05 p.m.)
        
        Ha! - that's a very amusing (& a cute) idea   kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 7:20 p.m.)
        
        Apparently any idea justifing Darcy   Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:05 a.m.)
        
        Certainly not all cute   kathleen (elder) (4/14/2010 9:46 a.m.)
        
        To justify or not to justify   Elizabeth K (4/14/2010 9:41 a.m.)
        
        Is that what your basic guy does?   nan duval (4/12/2010 6:11 p.m.)
        
        Kinda love at first slight Nan...nfm   greg (4/13/2010 1:05 p.m.)
        
        Re-examining Darcy's change of interest in Elizabeth   Karen G (4/13/2010 9:30 a.m.)
        
        a lively, playful disposition, which delighted in any thing   Stephanie (4/13/2010 10:56 a.m.)
        
        Darcy Removed His Blinders   Lenora (4/13/2010 10:20 a.m.)
        
        I think it's simpler than that.   Connie (4/13/2010 4:25 p.m.)
        
        Goodness, that was quick!   Cheryl (4/12/2010 1:01 p.m.)
        
        But Why?   BarbaraB (4/12/2010 12:47 p.m.)
Indeed I do not dare Nina RG (4/12/2010 10:03 a.m.)
- Everyone admired him at first. Mandy N (4/12/2010 11:24 a.m.)
  - Darcy's Behavior Kathryn Ann (4/13/2010 9:18 a.m.)
    - Objections Robbin (4/14/2010 2:15 a.m.)
      - Thanks for this! Karen G (4/15/2010 10:07 a.m.)
      - I never caught that before! Tina (4/15/2010 12:44 a.m.)
      - Hear, hear! nfm nan duval (4/14/2010 8:05 a.m.)
    - My guess nan duval (4/13/2010 1:25 p.m.)
    - Excellent Point BarbaraB (4/13/2010 11:08 a.m.)
      - What about Darcy?   Robbin (4/14/2010 2:22 a.m.)
        
        Absolutely he has to earn it back   BarbaraB (4/14/2010 11:56 a.m.)
        
        I agree   Karen G (4/14/2010 10:03 a.m.)
        
        Right   Robbin (4/15/2010 1:46 a.m.)
        
        Exactly.   Elizabeth K (4/14/2010 6:41 a.m.)
    - is not there a little mistake? Stephanie (4/13/2010 11:01 a.m.)
    - A Good Set-Up Example Lenora (4/13/2010 10:12 a.m.)
  - Another example of prejudice, ... Kathi (4/12/2010 7:41 p.m.)
    - yes LisaS (4/13/2010 12:21 p.m.)
      - I'm finding myself having a little more sympathy for Darcy   Karen G (4/13/2010 4:24 p.m.)
        
        (Altruism = good manners) vs. Darcy   Akaruihi (4/14/2010 11:35 p.m.)
        
        Yes   Elbč (4/16/2010 9:22 a.m.)
        
        Very well said! (:D) nfm   Robbin (4/16/2010 12:19 p.m.)
        
        In a different society   Nina RG (4/15/2010 7:26 a.m.)
        
        I Agree   Lenora (4/13/2010 4:40 p.m.)
        
        I don't think there's a problem with trusting first   Susan L (4/15/2010 12:04 a.m.)
        
        Good Statement nfm   BarbaraB (4/15/2010 11:30 a.m.)
        
        First impressions   Line (4/14/2010 10:31 a.m.)
It is very rude, very impolite, very ill-bred of kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 8:00 a.m.)
Petulance Elizabeth K (4/12/2010 5:02 a.m.)
- Maybe Darcy is avoiding THE Mrs. Bennets! Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:57 a.m.)
- Indeed, he is Angela C (4/12/2010 8:43 a.m.)
partially agree Addy (4/12/2010 4:44 a.m.)
- Darcy is Haughty Robbin (4/12/2010 6:22 a.m.)
  - Darcy's crowd Elbč (4/12/2010 10:37 a.m.)
    - Behavior BarbaraB (4/12/2010 12:12 p.m.)
      - Not excusing him   Elbč (4/12/2010 4:53 p.m.)
        
        Darcys Crowd Offended Too   Robbin (4/13/2010 10:24 a.m.)
        
        I took it to be a general statement too   LisaS (4/13/2010 1:19 p.m.)
        
        Thanks!   Robbin (4/13/2010 6:53 p.m.)
        
        That's how I read it, too. (NFM)   Nina RG (4/13/2010 3:05 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Line (4/13/2010 1:22 p.m.)
        
        Giving offense   Cheryl (4/13/2010 10:48 a.m.)
        
        I've always read it that way, as well   kathleen (elder) (4/13/2010 11:13 a.m.)
        
        Past or Present   Robbin (4/13/2010 6:46 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Silvia A (4/14/2010 5:59 p.m.)
        
        Oh, Okay   BarbaraB (4/12/2010 7:00 p.m.)
    - Perhaps... Elizabeth K (4/12/2010 11:22 a.m.)
      - Do we know their respective ages at this point? CarolTS (4/12/2010 12:22 p.m.)
      - We still have the system here Elbč (4/12/2010 11:31 a.m.)
Definitely Agree BarbaraB (4/12/2010 2:03 a.m.)
- Darcy's insults meant to be overheard? Elbč (4/12/2010 10:30 a.m.)
  - Charlotte's overhearings were about Mr Bingley's comments Lou C (4/14/2010 9:55 a.m.)
  - Probably! and playing hard to get.. Akaruihi (4/14/2010 5:26 a.m.)
    - He didn't give Elizabeth much thought Elbč (4/16/2010 9:29 a.m.)
  - But since Elizabeth had told the story Kathleen Glancy (4/12/2010 1:11 p.m.)
    - Ah- forgot about that! - nfm Elbč (4/12/2010 5:08 p.m.)
  - Intention or indifference? Cheryl (4/12/2010 10:50 a.m.)
    - I also asked myself this question Connie (4/12/2010 10:55 a.m.)
      - I think its more to Bingley: Elbč (4/12/2010 11:22 a.m.)
- Agree maud l (4/12/2010 3:38 a.m.)
  - And IMO very much caught up with the concept of class and AnnetteJ (4/12/2010 8:35 a.m.)
Or how about those LisaS (4/12/2010 1:51 a.m.)

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