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Slighting Lizzy Written by Cheryl (4/11/2010 10:51 p.m.)

I confessed last week that it has been a few years since I've read all of P&P, and even though I have the whole Dissing Lizzy speech memorized, I was surprised to find just how shocked I was at reading it again. It is really quite a horrid little speech and made knowing full well that she was likely to overhear it.

"… there is not another woman in the room whom it would not be a punishment to me to stand up with." … he looked for a moment at Elizabeth, till catching her eye, he withdrew his own and coldly said, "She is tolerable; but not handsome enough to tempt me; and I am in no humour at present to give consequence to young ladies who are slighted by other men." (Ch. 3)

Over the years, I've heard all the excuses the Darcy Apologists make - he was shy, he was annoyed to be there, he was being ironic, yada, yada. I don't buy it. It was a beastly thing to say and there is no excuse for it.

Now, despise me if you dare. ;-)

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Slighting Lizzy Cheryl (4/11/2010 10:51 p.m.)

Or how about those LisaS (4/12/2010 1:51 a.m.)
Definitely Agree BarbaraB (4/12/2010 2:03 a.m.)
- Agree maud l (4/12/2010 3:38 a.m.)
  - And IMO very much caught up with the concept of class and AnnetteJ (4/12/2010 8:35 a.m.)
- Darcy's insults meant to be overheard? Elbè (4/12/2010 10:30 a.m.)
  - Intention or indifference? Cheryl (4/12/2010 10:50 a.m.)
    - I also asked myself this question Connie (4/12/2010 10:55 a.m.)
      - I think its more to Bingley: Elbè (4/12/2010 11:22 a.m.)
  - But since Elizabeth had told the story Kathleen Glancy (4/12/2010 1:11 p.m.)
    - Ah- forgot about that! - nfm Elbè (4/12/2010 5:08 p.m.)
  - Probably! and playing hard to get.. Akaruihi (4/14/2010 5:26 a.m.)
    - He didn't give Elizabeth much thought Elbè (4/16/2010 9:29 a.m.)
  - Charlotte's overhearings were about Mr Bingley's comments Lou C (4/14/2010 9:55 a.m.)
partially agree Addy (4/12/2010 4:44 a.m.)
- Darcy is Haughty Robbin (4/12/2010 6:22 a.m.)
  - Darcy's crowd Elbè (4/12/2010 10:37 a.m.)
    - Perhaps... Elizabeth K (4/12/2010 11:22 a.m.)
      - We still have the system here Elbè (4/12/2010 11:31 a.m.)
      - Do we know their respective ages at this point? CarolTS (4/12/2010 12:22 p.m.)
    - Behavior BarbaraB (4/12/2010 12:12 p.m.)
      - Not excusing him   Elbè (4/12/2010 4:53 p.m.)
        
        Oh, Okay   BarbaraB (4/12/2010 7:00 p.m.)
        
        Darcy’s Crowd Offended Too   Robbin (4/13/2010 10:24 a.m.)
        
        Giving offense   Cheryl (4/13/2010 10:48 a.m.)
        
        I've always read it that way, as well   kathleen (elder) (4/13/2010 11:13 a.m.)
        
        Past or Present   Robbin (4/13/2010 6:46 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Silvia A (4/14/2010 5:59 p.m.)
        
        I took it to be a general statement too   LisaS (4/13/2010 1:19 p.m.)
        
        I agree   Line (4/13/2010 1:22 p.m.)
        
        That's how I read it, too. (NFM)   Nina RG (4/13/2010 3:05 p.m.)
        
        Thanks!   Robbin (4/13/2010 6:53 p.m.)
Petulance Elizabeth K (4/12/2010 5:02 a.m.)
- Indeed, he is Angela C (4/12/2010 8:43 a.m.)
- Maybe Darcy is avoiding THE Mrs. Bennets! Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:57 a.m.)
It is very rude, very impolite, very ill-bred of kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 8:00 a.m.)
Indeed I do not dare Nina RG (4/12/2010 10:03 a.m.)
- Everyone admired him at first. Mandy N (4/12/2010 11:24 a.m.)
  - Another example of prejudice, ... Kathi (4/12/2010 7:41 p.m.)
    - yes LisaS (4/13/2010 12:21 p.m.)
      - I'm finding myself having a little more sympathy for Darcy   Karen G (4/13/2010 4:24 p.m.)
        
        I Agree   Lenora (4/13/2010 4:40 p.m.)
        
        First impressions   Line (4/14/2010 10:31 a.m.)
        
        I don't think there's a problem with trusting first   Susan L (4/15/2010 12:04 a.m.)
        
        Good Statement nfm   BarbaraB (4/15/2010 11:30 a.m.)
        
        (Altruism = good manners) vs. Darcy   Akaruihi (4/14/2010 11:35 p.m.)
        
        In a different society   Nina RG (4/15/2010 7:26 a.m.)
        
        Yes   Elbè (4/16/2010 9:22 a.m.)
        
        Very well said! (:D) nfm   Robbin (4/16/2010 12:19 p.m.)
  - Darcy's Behavior Kathryn Ann (4/13/2010 9:18 a.m.)
    - A Good Set-Up Example Lenora (4/13/2010 10:12 a.m.)
    - is not there a little mistake? Stephanie (4/13/2010 11:01 a.m.)
    - Excellent Point BarbaraB (4/13/2010 11:08 a.m.)
      - What about Darcy?   Robbin (4/14/2010 2:22 a.m.)
        
        Exactly.   Elizabeth K (4/14/2010 6:41 a.m.)
        
        I agree   Karen G (4/14/2010 10:03 a.m.)
        
        Right   Robbin (4/15/2010 1:46 a.m.)
        
        Absolutely he has to earn it back   BarbaraB (4/14/2010 11:56 a.m.)
    - My guess nan duval (4/13/2010 1:25 p.m.)
    - Objections Robbin (4/14/2010 2:15 a.m.)
      - Hear, hear! nfm nan duval (4/14/2010 8:05 a.m.)
      - I never caught that before! Tina (4/15/2010 12:44 a.m.)
      - Thanks for this! Karen G (4/15/2010 10:07 a.m.)
But I think the ladies like Darcy--- Akaruihi (4/12/2010 10:24 a.m.)
- Elizabeth and Miss Lucas LIKE Darcy... Akaruihi (4/12/2010 10:56 a.m.)
  - Elizabeth is definitely not competing, kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 11:01 a.m.)
    - yes, thats why i said "until now" Akaruihi (4/12/2010 11:34 a.m.)
      - "Unil now..."   Cheryl (4/12/2010 11:57 a.m.)
        
        Ever think.....   greg (4/12/2010 12:05 p.m.)
        
        But Why?   BarbaraB (4/12/2010 12:47 p.m.)
        
        Goodness, that was quick!   Cheryl (4/12/2010 1:01 p.m.)
        
        Is that what your basic guy does?   nan duval (4/12/2010 6:11 p.m.)
        
        Re-examining Darcy's change of interest in Elizabeth   Karen G (4/13/2010 9:30 a.m.)
        
        Darcy Removed His Blinders   Lenora (4/13/2010 10:20 a.m.)
        
        I think it's simpler than that.   Connie (4/13/2010 4:25 p.m.)
        
        a lively, playful disposition, which delighted in any thing   Stephanie (4/13/2010 10:56 a.m.)
        
        Kinda love at first slight Nan...nfm   greg (4/13/2010 1:05 p.m.)
        
        Ha! - that's a very amusing (& a cute) idea   kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 7:20 p.m.)
        
        Apparently any idea justifing Darcy   Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:05 a.m.)
        
        To justify or not to justify   Elizabeth K (4/14/2010 9:41 a.m.)
        
        Certainly not all cute   kathleen (elder) (4/14/2010 9:46 a.m.)
- They don't know him well enough to like him kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 10:59 a.m.)
Beg to differ with Connie's assertion... Benedicte (4/12/2010 12:03 p.m.)
- It was not possible influence on him Connie (4/12/2010 12:13 p.m.)
Darcy was continually giving offence Stephanie (4/12/2010 12:37 p.m.)
- Actually, it was "two dances each" Graciela (4/12/2010 2:43 p.m.)
  - That we know of! CarolTS (4/12/2010 2:50 p.m.)
  - "I must have you dance." Stephanie (4/12/2010 3:02 p.m.)
    - Look at this post from the L&T board. Graciela (4/12/2010 11:01 p.m.)
- Giving a second opinion to Bingley Karen G (4/13/2010 1:15 p.m.)
- if continual offence, why did Bingley take him there? Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:47 a.m.)
  - What a contrast between him and his friend! Stephanie (4/14/2010 10:32 a.m.)
  - One to a customer Myretta (4/14/2010 10:50 a.m.)
Darcy and the Crankiness Factor Lenora (4/12/2010 1:52 p.m.)
- Seems like a "two-fer" :-) kathleen (elder) (4/12/2010 2:41 p.m.)
  - And so you like this man's sisters too, do you? Stephanie (4/12/2010 2:58 p.m.)
    - Setting up the weakness Kathryn Ann (4/13/2010 8:46 a.m.)
  - Who´s prejudiced? Who´s the victim of prejudice? Akaruihi (4/14/2010 5:02 a.m.)
- Had not been introduced... Karen 2L (4/12/2010 7:33 p.m.)
- But why is Darcy cranky? Kathi (4/12/2010 7:37 p.m.)
  - I don't believe Darcy was forced to attend Christopher (4/12/2010 8:08 p.m.)
    - I've always wondered... Andrea Gayle (4/13/2010 2:28 p.m.)
      - Darcy's manner LisaS (4/13/2010 2:51 p.m.)
  - to give consequence to young ladies who are slighted by other men Stephanie (4/12/2010 8:56 p.m.)
    - Makes me think of the ball scene in Emma Elbè (4/13/2010 5:57 a.m.)
    - It's true, isn't it? Line (4/13/2010 9:34 a.m.)
    - Bored, yet he danced a bit.l Akaruihi (4/14/2010 12:13 a.m.)
      - Hah -- doesn't take much courage/bravery   kathleen (elder) (4/14/2010 7:46 a.m.)
        
        Why is yes the only possible answer?   Akaruihi (4/14/2010 11:38 p.m.)
        
        Socializing is the purpose...   Tina (4/15/2010 1:03 a.m.)
        
        If you go to church, then you should   kathleen (elder) (4/15/2010 7:18 a.m.)
- Darcy -."I am in no humour AT PRESENT" Akaruihi (4/13/2010 4:46 a.m.)
  - Yes, because he was in a situation... Line (4/13/2010 9:44 a.m.)
    - but Darcy, he was pressed 3 times by Bingley to answer Akaruihi (4/14/2010 9:31 a.m.)
  - Doesn't matter about 'at present' BarbaraB (4/13/2010 11:33 a.m.)
- All this use of the word "cranky"... Cheryl (4/13/2010 10:55 a.m.)
  - nothing to do but [] go to sleep. nfm Stephanie (4/13/2010 11:03 a.m.)
  - Oh, Cheryl.... Elizabeth K (4/13/2010 11:38 a.m.)
  - LOL! :-D Nina RG (4/13/2010 12:41 p.m.)
A couple of years ago, nan duval (4/12/2010 5:50 p.m.)
Goaded by Miss Bingley to go to the ball? Benedicte (4/14/2010 1:55 p.m.)
- But none of that excuses the insult kathleen (elder) (4/14/2010 2:26 p.m.)
- His character was decided. Stephanie (4/14/2010 3:02 p.m.)

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