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I do not see how one can say the Allens are not... Written by Adrian (3/2/2009 2:08 p.m.) in consequence of the missive, But....but....., penned by Amymarie

...proper chaperons, certainly not from what we see in the first seven chapters. While Mrs. Allen is superficial, she is responsible and (wisely in Mrs. Allen's case) defers to Mr. Allen's judgment in such matters as seeking out Mr. King for introductions at the Lower Rooms in Ch. 3. We know that Mr. Allen, having seen Catherine dancing with Henry, found out directly who he was to determine if he was a proper acquaintance for her.

The Allens are a far cry from Emily's aunt in Udolpho, who was foolishly blind in her alliance with Montoni and cruelly restrictive in keeping Valancourt away from Emily. Nor are the Allens as foolish (at least so far) as chaperons in some of JA's other novels who let their charges run off with unworthy men.

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Chapter 1: Heroine Lynn (3/1/2009 4:34 p.m.)

Qualities of a heroine Line (3/2/2009 9:09 a.m.)
Childhood activities Eirene (3/1/2009 7:04 p.m.)
- sacrifice of self Patricia P (3/4/2009 1:45 p.m.)
- I suppose nursing a dormouse... Line (3/1/2009 7:13 p.m.)
  - I really like this detail of nursing the dormouse Delories (3/2/2009 10:53 a.m.)
    - I think is says, however, Lynn (3/2/2009 12:03 p.m.)
  - The herioine of Tom Jones nursed an injured bird. -nfm Adrian (3/1/2009 8:00 p.m.)
Cecilia Rachel G (3/1/2009 6:30 p.m.)
- Hmm Amymarie (3/3/2009 9:56 a.m.)
  - Could you give a chapter citation, please? kathleen (elder) (3/3/2009 10:29 a.m.)
    - Sorry Amymarie (3/3/2009 11:06 a.m.)
      - JA uses these works as examples of novels. Adrian (3/3/2009 1:00 p.m.)
- Sounds more like a cameleon, than a heroine! - nfm Elbè (3/3/2009 7:33 a.m.)
  - Indeed! LOL! Kath (3/4/2009 2:53 p.m.)
- I love the description of Catherine at 15 Ellen M (3/1/2009 10:48 p.m.)
Especially Gothic heroines Laraine (3/1/2009 6:29 p.m.)
- You've just described JoAnn (3/2/2009 1:05 p.m.)
- But....but..... Amymarie (3/2/2009 11:21 a.m.)
  - Photographic negative. Graciela (3/2/2009 2:50 p.m.)
    - Not to stray too far from NA.... Amymarie (3/2/2009 5:51 p.m.)
      - On teh contrary, Emily of *Udolpho* has no faults...   Adrian (3/2/2009 7:55 p.m.)
        
        Yes she does!!!   Amymarie (3/2/2009 8:07 p.m.)
        
        But that *is* the point.   Reeba (3/3/2009 5:42 a.m.)
        
        But it was not considered good...   Emmeline (3/3/2009 6:25 a.m.)
        
        Let's not stray too far from NA   Lynn (3/3/2009 11:15 a.m.)
        
        Pray forgive me.   Emmeline (3/3/2009 4:58 p.m.)
  - I do not see how one can say the Allens are not... Adrian (3/2/2009 2:08 p.m.)
    - Mrs Allen as chaperon Emmeline (3/3/2009 6:34 a.m.)
    - The Allens as chaperones JoAnn (3/2/2009 2:38 p.m.)
  - Please limit the discussion Lynn (3/2/2009 12:01 p.m.)
- So true! Lynn (3/1/2009 11:07 p.m.)

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