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Henry's timing Written by Louise H (10/6/2010 11:20 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, Sir Thomas goes to the East Room (ch 32), penned by BarbaraB

Henry thinks that just after he tells Fanny of William's promotion is the perfect time to propose, when she's all gratitude. Sir Thomas agrees that Fanny's indebtedness to Henry on William's account is an argument in Henry's favor.

I find this disturbing -- as if it's appropriate to try to catch Fanny in a moment of gratitude, rather than have her decide her fate based on deliberate reflection. Mr. Knightley, for example, would never approve of taking advantage of someone's gratitude that way.

I think JA expects us to see a lack of delicacy on Sir T's part not to grasp or care about Henry's ungentlemanly conduct here. It's another instance of Sir T's not looking carefully at the suitability of the match, but only caring about its advantageousness.

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Sir Thomas goes to the East Room (ch 32) BarbaraB (10/5/2010 1:01 a.m.)

More reversals Tom P2 (10/10/2010 9:46 p.m.)
- Reversals and turning the other cheek Barb JA (10/12/2010 10:29 a.m.)
  - Misery, gratitude, and night sky Tom P2 (10/12/2010 5:19 p.m.)
    - Sorry, I sure misunderstood... Barb JA (10/13/2010 7:29 a.m.)
      - No problem. It's a familiar hazard of attempted succinctness. nfm Tom P2 (10/13/2010 7:07 p.m.)
- Well put! nfm Rachel G (10/11/2010 3:54 a.m.)
Henry's timing Louise H (10/6/2010 11:20 a.m.)
- Emotional blackmail. Rachel G (10/6/2010 1:18 p.m.)
  - succinctly well put-doing right things with wrong motives(NFM) jeffrey (10/7/2010 1:08 p.m.)
IMHO, It is the methods used not the end desired . . . KatharineW (10/5/2010 9:16 p.m.)
Respect & Betrayal Robbin (10/5/2010 7:15 p.m.)
Ch 32, to me, is one of Miss Austen's smaller masterpieces jeffrey (10/5/2010 9:44 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas' tirade - a less charitable view. Rachel G (10/5/2010 11:56 a.m.)
  - Sir Thomas Bridget D (10/7/2010 2:57 p.m.)
  - Sir Thomas needs a SUTH Erica (10/6/2010 10:01 p.m.)
  - Right to refuse Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:19 a.m.)
  - Fanny’s Right to say No & Independent Thought Robbin (10/5/2010 6:54 p.m.)
  - Thank you Rachel G Mia I. (10/5/2010 5:40 p.m.)
    - Thank God, this is not the end of the story! (NFM) jeffrey (10/5/2010 11:52 p.m.)
  - At this point in the story, I definitely agree with you... jeffrey (10/5/2010 1:26 p.m.)
    - Partnership? Yeah, Way to go! ;-D nfm Rachel G (10/5/2010 5:08 p.m.)
      - Don't know how to take this so.... jeffrey (10/6/2010 12:08 a.m.)
        
        I'd like.... Rachel G (10/7/2010 3:22 a.m.)
- Well said Jeffrey. Barb JA (10/5/2010 10:29 a.m.)
  - Observation & Misconceptions Robbin (10/5/2010 9:01 p.m.)
  - romantic delicacy was certainly not to be expected from him Stephanie (10/5/2010 1:35 p.m.)
    - Fanny's reticence Erica (10/6/2010 10:56 p.m.)
    - Fanny's secrets Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:00 a.m.)
      - Inner strength. Rachel G (10/6/2010 8:16 a.m.)
        
        Exactly so, Rachel G! (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/6/2010 4:03 p.m.)
    - Delicate Health? Jane Marie (10/5/2010 4:18 p.m.)
  - Mediocrity of condition Ramya (10/5/2010 11:37 a.m.)
    - Empathy & Intentions Robbin (10/5/2010 6:39 p.m.)
      - Execution was horrible   Barb JA (10/7/2010 7:21 a.m.)
        
        I agree: absence of a dowry   Ramya (10/7/2010 10:37 a.m.)
        
        Fanny a slave   Bridget D (10/7/2010 1:53 p.m.)
    - Yes, agree with the exception of one point: jeffrey (10/5/2010 12:59 p.m.)
      - Not unsubstantiated   Ramya (10/7/2010 10:52 a.m.)
        
        Advantages of Portsmouth   Robbin (10/8/2010 1:17 a.m.)
        
        William Fanny etc   Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:25 a.m.)
        
        Also   Erica (10/9/2010 11:42 a.m.)
        
        Fanny   Bridget D (10/9/2010 4:36 p.m.)
        
        Fanny dined at the Parsonage   Robbin (10/10/2010 1:46 a.m.)
        
        Not surprising   Barb JA (10/10/2010 11:36 a.m.)
        
        Fanny out   Bridget D (10/10/2010 1:59 p.m.)
        
        Fanny coming out   Bridget D (10/10/2010 2:51 a.m.)
        
        Advocating for Fanny   Robbin (10/10/2010 11:14 p.m.)
        
        Fanny nad balls   Bridget D (10/11/2010 3:03 a.m.)
        
        Bertram's finances   Erica (10/10/2010 2:53 p.m.)
        
        Dowry   Erica (10/10/2010 1:03 a.m.)
        
        Mansfield Park may be the lesser of two evils   Ramya (10/9/2010 4:54 p.m.)
        
        Portsmouth   Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:30 p.m.)
        
        We know for a fact that her life at MP   Ramya (10/9/2010 6:26 p.m.)
        
        Portsmouth and Mansfield   Bridget D (10/10/2010 6:12 a.m.)
        
        Very true   Erica (10/10/2010 2:55 p.m.)
      - What about Henry's part in all this   Angela L (10/6/2010 5:30 a.m.)
        
        What did Henry say?   Barb JA (10/6/2010 8:29 a.m.)
        
        She practically ran away screaming   Robbin (10/8/2010 12:08 p.m.)
        
        Proper modesty & reticence.   Rachel G (10/6/2010 1:08 p.m.)

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