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Right to refuse Written by Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:19 a.m.) in consequence of the missive, Sir Thomas' tirade - a less charitable view., penned by Rachel G

My more charitable view was not intended as approval or excusing of Sir Thomas scaring the living daylights out of Fanny.

To paraphrase what a wise woman said about another character in the GR, I'm trying to understand how things look from Sir Thomas' point of view.

As far as the second disgusting aspect of Sir Thomas' rant, I don't agree that "he seems to think that she has no right to refuse an offer of marriage simply because she does not like the man and knows she would be miserable." I think that will be answered in a future chapter.

He's wrong also in thinking and allowing If the gentleman would but persevere, if he had but love enough to persevere...

But that is something more easily discussed in the future chapters.

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Sir Thomas goes to the East Room (ch 32) BarbaraB (10/5/2010 1:01 a.m.)

More reversals Tom P2 (10/10/2010 9:46 p.m.)
- Reversals and turning the other cheek Barb JA (10/12/2010 10:29 a.m.)
  - Misery, gratitude, and night sky Tom P2 (10/12/2010 5:19 p.m.)
    - Sorry, I sure misunderstood... Barb JA (10/13/2010 7:29 a.m.)
      - No problem. It's a familiar hazard of attempted succinctness. nfm Tom P2 (10/13/2010 7:07 p.m.)
- Well put! nfm Rachel G (10/11/2010 3:54 a.m.)
Henry's timing Louise H (10/6/2010 11:20 a.m.)
- Emotional blackmail. Rachel G (10/6/2010 1:18 p.m.)
  - succinctly well put-doing right things with wrong motives(NFM) jeffrey (10/7/2010 1:08 p.m.)
IMHO, It is the methods used not the end desired . . . KatharineW (10/5/2010 9:16 p.m.)
Respect & Betrayal Robbin (10/5/2010 7:15 p.m.)
Ch 32, to me, is one of Miss Austen's smaller masterpieces jeffrey (10/5/2010 9:44 a.m.)
- Sir Thomas' tirade - a less charitable view. Rachel G (10/5/2010 11:56 a.m.)
  - Sir Thomas Bridget D (10/7/2010 2:57 p.m.)
  - Sir Thomas needs a SUTH Erica (10/6/2010 10:01 p.m.)
  - Right to refuse Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:19 a.m.)
  - Fanny’s Right to say No & Independent Thought Robbin (10/5/2010 6:54 p.m.)
  - Thank you Rachel G Mia I. (10/5/2010 5:40 p.m.)
    - Thank God, this is not the end of the story! (NFM) jeffrey (10/5/2010 11:52 p.m.)
  - At this point in the story, I definitely agree with you... jeffrey (10/5/2010 1:26 p.m.)
    - Partnership? Yeah, Way to go! ;-D nfm Rachel G (10/5/2010 5:08 p.m.)
      - Don't know how to take this so.... jeffrey (10/6/2010 12:08 a.m.)
        
        I'd like.... Rachel G (10/7/2010 3:22 a.m.)
- Well said Jeffrey. Barb JA (10/5/2010 10:29 a.m.)
  - Observation & Misconceptions Robbin (10/5/2010 9:01 p.m.)
  - romantic delicacy was certainly not to be expected from him Stephanie (10/5/2010 1:35 p.m.)
    - Fanny's reticence Erica (10/6/2010 10:56 p.m.)
    - Fanny's secrets Barb JA (10/6/2010 7:00 a.m.)
      - Inner strength. Rachel G (10/6/2010 8:16 a.m.)
        
        Exactly so, Rachel G! (nfm) Cathy Allen (10/6/2010 4:03 p.m.)
    - Delicate Health? Jane Marie (10/5/2010 4:18 p.m.)
  - Mediocrity of condition Ramya (10/5/2010 11:37 a.m.)
    - Empathy & Intentions Robbin (10/5/2010 6:39 p.m.)
      - Execution was horrible   Barb JA (10/7/2010 7:21 a.m.)
        
        I agree: absence of a dowry   Ramya (10/7/2010 10:37 a.m.)
        
        Fanny a slave   Bridget D (10/7/2010 1:53 p.m.)
    - Yes, agree with the exception of one point: jeffrey (10/5/2010 12:59 p.m.)
      - Not unsubstantiated   Ramya (10/7/2010 10:52 a.m.)
        
        Advantages of Portsmouth   Robbin (10/8/2010 1:17 a.m.)
        
        William Fanny etc   Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:25 a.m.)
        
        Also   Erica (10/9/2010 11:42 a.m.)
        
        Fanny   Bridget D (10/9/2010 4:36 p.m.)
        
        Fanny dined at the Parsonage   Robbin (10/10/2010 1:46 a.m.)
        
        Not surprising   Barb JA (10/10/2010 11:36 a.m.)
        
        Fanny out   Bridget D (10/10/2010 1:59 p.m.)
        
        Fanny coming out   Bridget D (10/10/2010 2:51 a.m.)
        
        Advocating for Fanny   Robbin (10/10/2010 11:14 p.m.)
        
        Fanny nad balls   Bridget D (10/11/2010 3:03 a.m.)
        
        Bertram's finances   Erica (10/10/2010 2:53 p.m.)
        
        Dowry   Erica (10/10/2010 1:03 a.m.)
        
        Mansfield Park may be the lesser of two evils   Ramya (10/9/2010 4:54 p.m.)
        
        Portsmouth   Bridget D (10/9/2010 5:30 p.m.)
        
        We know for a fact that her life at MP   Ramya (10/9/2010 6:26 p.m.)
        
        Portsmouth and Mansfield   Bridget D (10/10/2010 6:12 a.m.)
        
        Very true   Erica (10/10/2010 2:55 p.m.)
      - What about Henry's part in all this   Angela L (10/6/2010 5:30 a.m.)
        
        What did Henry say?   Barb JA (10/6/2010 8:29 a.m.)
        
        She practically ran away screaming   Robbin (10/8/2010 12:08 p.m.)
        
        Proper modesty & reticence.   Rachel G (10/6/2010 1:08 p.m.)

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